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Belligerent Savant » Sun Jul 16, 2023 11:41 pm wrote:

DrEvil » Thu Jul 13, 2023 4:20 pm wrote: Out here in the real world it's heat waves all around and new temperature records being broken left and right. Again. It's almost as if we're seeing a pattern of some sort.

Sorry, that's not the fucking 'real world'. What you type above is the curated, propagandized and misleading talking points promoted by agenda-driven & heavily financed MSM, govt/bureaucratic mouthpieces, swallowed with minimal/no discernment by those that apparently lost the ability to pause and reflect.

Such implicit trust in heavily-funded entities would have been somewhat understandable 30-40 yrs ago (though it's not quite an 'apples to apples' comparison as there was far less concentration of wealth/power & monopolization of industries back then). But if the egregiously blatant, overt affronts of the last few yrs haven't slapped people awake to the fact that much of our industries -- particularly those tied to Establishment Science and Politics -- are largely compromised, irrevocably, there is little hope at this point for such sleepwalkers, and we are now at a point where such 'sleepwalkers' are contributing to -- and are complicit in -- collective harms. Substantive change can only occur when the majority wake up to the reality of egregious capture/corruption and refuse to continue to participate or opt-in.

Chris Martz
@ChrisMartzWX

Three quick facts on U.S. temperature extremes:

1. 39 states set their all-time TMax records prior to 1970.

2. 33 states set their all-time TMin records prior to 1970.

3. There has been no measurable increase in TMax nor TMin extremes. Despite claims, it's not more variable.

https://twitter.com/ChrisMartzWX/status ... 88866?s=20

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/07/16/ ... ipulation/

The claim that July 3-4, 2023 were the hottest days in the past 125,000 years is based on satellite data and computer modeling by the University of Maine’s Climate Reanalyzer. But there seems to be a problem with the Climate Reanalyzer.



The chart (above) is a screenshot from this morning. I highlighted the August 20, 2022 date because of what I tweeted below on that date.



My August 20, 2022 tweet from the Climate Reanalayzer shows that average global temperature anomaly on that date was -0.1°C.

But the screenshot from today, says the anomaly was 0.25°C — a 0.35°C difference. What happened? Is the Climate Reanalyzer reanalyzing temperatures to fit the narrative?

Edit to add a couple more:

Dr. Matthew M. Wielicki
@MatthewWielicki

Certain places on our planet get hot at times. It doesn't mean the world is on fire. Just like it wasn't on fire in 1905, 1913, 1931, or 1960. This is pure unsubstantiated fear-mongering.



Debbie Kalata
@DebbieKalata
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Agree.

Miami has only hit 100 F once on 07/21/1942.

Hottest in Arizona was 128 F on 06/28/1994.

Hottest in California was 134 on 07/10/1913.

Hope those freaking out notice both the time of year (summer) and the year (not one in this millennium).

https://twitter.com/MatthewWielicki/sta ... 77920?s=20

(Note: as already called out numerous times before, even if it turns out the above counterpoints -- out of many others that can be shared -- are FLAT WRONG, and we grant that there IS indeed anomalous fluctuations in temperatures right now compared to whatever limited historical data may inform, it does NOT in any way suggest, let alone prove, that it's due materially to everyday 'commoner'/'plebe' activities, or human-generated CO2. I will repeat again that "climate alarm" as currently presented by the ESG/Blackrock/Net Zero Propagandists and regurgitated by their dogmatic zealots, shills and/or mouthpieces, is a Giant Scam, and far worse: if carried out as desired it will dramatically restrict/curtail fundamental human rights and impose a variety of draconian control measures, none of which will solve any climate concerns. Any huffing and puffing that may follow in subsequent replies will not change this fact).

https://www.naturalnews.com/2023-07-18- ... risis.html
Nobel Prize winner Dr. John Clauser says there’s NO climate crisis… it’s all a hoax pushed for political purposes

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One other quick one.

What was previously considered 'fringe theory' is quickly going to become louder in volume (as it has with other recent topics: mandates, lockdowns, "gender affirming care", etc.), and in turn, many that have been primed and conditioned will not only welcome it, but DEMAND such measures.

Belligerent Savant » Sat May 13, 2023 9:52 am wrote:
It’s alarming that so many are perfectly willing (and clamoring) to adopt these measures, seemingly without a hint of scrutiny or discernment. Which is precisely what we just observed from 2020-2023 for another ‘crisis’ we very recently endured. The parallels are clear and myriad, regardless of any attempts to silence such comparisons.

Let's see how this develops in the weeks/months ahead.

US Presidential Candidate Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and Dane Wigington: Is Climate Engineering Real?

Global climate engineering operations are the most massive untold story of all. How are such obvious and extensive operations kept from public awareness? How toxic are the climate engineering elements that are being dispersed into our skies? How can the illegal climate intervention operations be fully exposed and halted? All of these issues and more are discussed in this exchange between US presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and Dane Wigington from GeoengineeringWatch.org.
All are needed in the critical battle to wake populations to what is coming, we must make every day count. Share credible data from a credible source, make your voice heard. Awareness raising efforts can be carried out from your own home computer.
Dane Wigington

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The below comments are succinctly articulated summaries of the primary concerns raised in this thread by me and a few others here.

'Climate alarm' shows all the signs of being worse, in some respects, than covid hysteria.

Jeff Wells
@JeffWellsRigInt
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Climate psychosis may be a greater civilizational threat than covid derangement and is "the main obstacle to actually rationally addressing the problem and helping those that need most protection."

Thinking like this will win you enemies on all sides, but it's true.

Thomas Fazi
@battleforeurope

The events of the past weeks confirm, I think, that the climate movement is rapidly turning into the most dangerous doomsday cult the world has ever known. Indeed, it’s the first global movement of this kind: never before have millions of people been convinced that the world is about to end — and that anything is justified in order to avert the end time. It’s like the pandemic on steroids: just a few years ago they were happy to completely upend societies, with no consideration for the collateral damage (which we now know to have been massive, as we had easily predicted), in order to stop a respiratory virus. God only knows what they’d be willing to do in order to — in their view — “save the planet”. (By the way, this kind of attitude is the main obstacle to actually rationally addressing the problem and helping those that need most protection — as the pandemic amply demonstrated).

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This is the first time I encountered this account and have not yet checked out/vetted the "Tony Heller" source referenced below. As with anything, perform your own due diligence (or not) to arrive at your own assessment.

Israel Anderson
@IsraelAnderson

There is no climate crisis.

Those of you that believe there is, they're going to turn you against those of us that once again, aren't falling for their transparent hoaxes.

Lies upon lies about the climate are now a daily occurrence. We are NOT breaking any heat records whatsoever. If you believe we are, you're about to be turned against the rest of us - that know better.

You won't think anything of it to harm us, because they've convinced you we are causing harm to planet, somehow, through our very powerful clearly-magical differences of opinion. Actually it's about two kinds of people. One that shuts up and believes whatever they are first told, and the curious.

CO2 is not any cause of warming through trapping heat. They have so severely demonized this simple molecule that is absolutely essential for life to exist. The more CO2, the more nutritious plants become, and also therefore the animals that eat them. CO2 is greening the planet. A CO2 level around 1200 ppm would be best. We're a very very long way from that at about 418 ppm.

If you believe there's a climate crisis, please follow Tony Heller @TonyClimate. Please be open to learning the truth.

Before it's too late.

10:35 PM · Jul 21, 2023

https://twitter.com/IsraelAnderson/stat ... 79557?s=20

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She forgot Step 1a: allow only electric stoves, otherwise spot-on:

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Adding a few more as the madness is coming fast and furious these days.

Remember the few members here that scoffed at and/or admonished me for comparing 'climate alarm' to covid? They bristled at the notion that the 2 can be compared.

Well. The fucking 'paper of record':



"Extreme Tmperatures are the New Covid" - NYTimes.

Fuck the NYTimes with a splintered wooden stick, and anyone that still blindly subscribes to their blatant propaganda may qualify for a similar fate as they are participants in realizing and exacerbating lunacy like this.

And while we're on the topic of entities that should be shoved into a dumpster and lit on fire, it seems the Biden admin is particularly intent on doing away with agency or resources available to us to endure emergency heating or self-sufficiency scenarios. It appears they want (particularly working/middle class) citizens to be fully dependent on a system that can be shut down, temporarily or otherwise, inadvertently or otherwise, or even specifically targeted to restrict access to certain individuals (a la social credit systems) that do NOT comply.

Perhaps this may not come to pass. But those that can should prepare accordingly, now, as it appears incrementally likely that those of us (and or family members/dependents) not living the lifestyle of, say, our fellow forum member Joe Hillshoist -- who is reportedly offgrid in the bushes of Australia somewhere -- will be fucked.

Or perhaps some of the citizenry will come to enjoy the capture. The variation of house arrest. Primed and conditioned to be happy with monthly rations & restrictions so long as the internet is still accessible to them (where AI, VR and various forms of DoorDash, within set limits, will be provided to the compliant)


You can look up the source material for these images yourselves if you choose to do so. There are several sources for this content, though at the moment it does not appear to be reported on mainstream news sources.

Maybe just paranoia among those 'libertarians' eh? How silly of them to leap to such conclusions. Besides, according to certain groups of people we never really had lockdown or mandates, right?

No, You are 100% wrong about this issue, BS!

On the climate change/global warming front, corporate media, Blackrock, the WEF, billionaires, and all major Western governments are actually for once uniquely on the side of all average humans like you and me.

They are clearly not attempting to use this corporate media manufactured crisis to exert even more control over and extract even more wealth and power from all the rest of us. That sort of logic applies only to every other manufactured war or crisis of the last 50 years! In this case, what happened was that Extinction Rebels like you and me finally won the day and for the very first time in our lives, corporate media, Blackrock, the WEF, billionaires, and the all major Western governments are actually on our side!!! To question their motives on any of this would be the height of conspiracy madness!

For once, a crisis that is being hyped by corporate media and our billionaire overlords is 100% true. There is zero reason to be suspicious of any of our overlords' plans or motives. We all just need to come to terms with the fact that the 99% of us who are not wealthy psychopaths need to take one for the team and eat bugs, suffer blackouts, give up our private cars, stay locked in our neighborhoods. and most of all live within our allowed carbon credits for the rest of our lives. This is all for our own good lest we all go extinct.

Does anyone here deny that humans need to reduce their carbon emissions?

Elvis » 23 Jul 2023 21:50 wrote:Does anyone here deny that humans need to reduce their carbon emissions?

I deny that average humans need to reduce their carbon emissions before the worst offenders do. I deny that carbon and nitrogen emissions somehow make austerity for average humans good. How about you?

I do not deny that it would be circumspect to take any and all non-destructive steps to reduce human impact on the environment in general, starting with the plastic, glyphosate, pesticides, depleted uranium, fluoride, mercury and aluminum we poison ourselves with daily. And this, of course, would include excessive carbon and nitrogen emissions to some degree.

But the idea that current scientists actually know exactly what is going to happen in the next X years due to human carbon and nitrogen emissions is ludicrous. We know nothing about the true limits of Gaia's ability to regulate its temperature.



Of course, there is no reason to risk our own extinction by pushing the envelope. There is no reason that we as a society cannot embrace an environmental ethic to leave the Earth a more habitable environment than we found it through conservation, distributed energy generation, better harnessing of solar and hydrothermal energy, and regenerative farming techniques.

But the bizarre idea that human emissions are a uniquely destructive occurrence in all of Gaia's history is the height of human hubris. And the current consensus that we need to kill billions and imprison the rest of humanity to save Gaia now represents the most irrationally destructive doomsday cult in human history.

stickdog99 wrote:I deny that average humans need to reduce their carbon emissions before the worst offenders do. I deny that carbon and nitrogen emissions somehow make austerity for average humans good. How about you?

This reply answers different questions than the one I asked, but it seems to imply that humans do need to reduce carbon emissions. How we go about reducing emissions seems to be the pertinent question.

But the bizarre idea that human emissions are a uniquely destructive occurrence in all of Gaia's history is the height of human hubris.

I'm not sure what "uniquely destructive occurrence" means, but for the syllogism that human emissions are unique because they're caused by humans.

And the current consensus that we need to kill billions and imprison the rest of humanity to save Gaia now represents the most irrationally destructive doomsday cult in human history.

This is whose current consensus? Who is saying we need to kill billions and imprison the rest?—in order to reduce carbon emissions? Sincere questions.

Arrest and prosecute thieves or treat every customer like a suspect to be scanned by facial recognition before they can enter?

How come so much "progress" isn't.
Facial Recognition Grocery Store in Portland
https://rumble.com/v301kss-facial-recog ... tland.html

I find it interesting some here, don't find ALL this as one thing...




or pretend not to...



https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/ ... protocols/

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Stickdog typed:

...take any and all non-destructive steps to reduce human impact on the environment in general, starting with the plastic, glyphosate, pesticides, depleted uranium, fluoride, mercury and aluminum we poison ourselves with daily. And this, of course, would include excessive carbon and nitrogen emissions to some

Precisely.

The above should be the top priority, not fucking 'carbon offsets/credits', ESG-related 'initiatives', or 'net zero', etc. All of these are brazen scams and largely ineffective, in any event.

As alluded by Stickdog, and as I've typed a number of times in this thread, the climate is NOT impacted by the activities ('carbon output', etc) of everyday commoners/humans. If we are to discuss carbon-reduction, especially with respect to impact on environment and pollution, the TOP priority is to curb such emissions from the largest polluters: mega corporations, multinational entities, and countries like China and India that are far more egregious in this regard than the U.S.; additionally, how about we fucking curb the activities of Billionaires, eh? The fucking myriad and repeat PRIVATE JET flights and YACHT usage, to name just 2 examples, FAR exceed 'carbon output' of activities engaged by the average human.

The typical private jet burns around 5,000 gallons of fuel per hour. That's the equivalent of about 400 passenger cars. The average commercial jet burns about half that much. When you consider that most private jets only fly with a handful of passengers, it's easy to see how they can have such a large carbon footprint

https://flybitlux.com/what-is-the-carbo ... ivate-jet/

Why the fuck is Private Jet usage not being discussed as an activity to curb? Well, it should be CLEAR why. Because the "human-based CO2 as primary driver of 'climate change' " narrative is not only a massive scam, but increasingly a vehicle utilized to curb fundamental human rights, agency, and free movement of the working/middle/majority classes.

This is NOT an "excess population" problem or a "scarcity of resources" problem. This is a 'wholly unjust/un-equitable distribution of resources' problem. This is also a, "the very few want a stranglehold on the majority of available resources -- wealth, power, energy, money, land, property, farming, etc -- and are willing to impose all manner of draconian measures, including eugenics-related programs disguised as fucking 'PROGRESSIVE INITATIVES' [e.g., "carbon reduction"; "mass scale vaccination", "rolling blackouts"; "lockdowns" -- climate or 'pandemic'; related mandates, etc] to realize their objectives" problem.

It's up to the majority to prevent this from happening.

Put another way: We need to wake the fuck up, collectively.

(there is an expression/meme that has increasing validity these days: "WE are the carbon they want to reduce")

The so-called "Left" of current times is quickly becoming a DOOMSDAY CULT. In the last ~3yrs, a sizable number of those on the "Left" have been convinced to be ok with -- or CLAMOR for -- egregious affronts to fundamental human rights. This trend has and will continue with "climate alarm" programming. Demonstrably.

(some may compellingly argue the Left has already firmly arrived as a doomsday cult, on or around ~late 2021)