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Re: Rhetoric and the art of Collaborative Discussion
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:55 am
by Elvis
seemslikeadream wrote:.he must have said something positive about me once upon a time
Slad, c'mon... it's not always about you. Some of those guys had their own separate issues with DrEvil. Anyway, let's not drag all that old stuff into this. For one thing, Mac had
nothing to do with that splinter group or site.
Mind you, I'm not forgetting everything that was said 'over there', but it's old business and doesn't help anything to rehash it.
Re: Rhetoric and the art of Collaborative Discussion
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:47 am
by JackRiddler
Re: Rhetoric and the art of Collaborative Discussion
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:49 pm
by The Consul
There is a Hugh Manatee hole in RI consciousness.
Re: Rhetoric and the art of Collaborative Discussion
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:25 am
by JackRiddler
Are you sure? Mr. Wonder Occludes Objectivity? He presented all of his schtick as rigorously and fundamentally materialist.
Re: Rhetoric and the art of Collaborative Discussion
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:06 pm
by Grizzly
Oh, come on Jack, you could have ignored him. Granted he was annoying at times, but also in the right spirit of RI AND YOU KNOW IT.
Re: Rhetoric and the art of Collaborative Discussion
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:34 pm
by JackRiddler
Don't look at me, I didn't start or lead the campaign to ban him, although I agreed after it was a groundswell. It really wasn't that he was annoying, or that the KWH theory/obsession was often incoherent and seemed to go for the most obscure references. As far as I'm concerned, he'd still be posting here and no one would care if ONLY he hadn't done his same thing every time on EVERY thread, making many people feel hijacked. But he never stopped. Also, he was always violently right about everything he said, and sooner or later tended toward designating everyone as THEM.
Re: Rhetoric and the art of Collaborative Discussion
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:45 pm
by chump
Re: Rhetoric and the art of Collaborative Discussion
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:24 am
by DrEvil
I distinctly remember us having a very productive and civilized discussion on the merits of burning babies for fuel.
But seriously, I think you're a good person with your heart in the right place. You also have a bit of a temper, but I don't mind that. There's never any question about where you stand, and I admire people who speak their mind, even if I don't always agree.
And I know exactly why I got that lovely picture in coffin_dodgers org chart. I kept disagreeing with him (okay, so I pretty much called him a stupid motherfucker, just not with those exact words), so he responded with some elegant and witty fat shaming after running away and starting his own secret club, because in his world every computer nerd is fat and sits around in their underwear. Joke's on him though, I'm not fat and I'm wearing pants.
Re: Rhetoric and the art of Collaborative Discussion
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:31 pm
by chump
Re: Rhetoric and the art of Collaborative Discussion
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:49 pm
by Elvis
Now cut that out.

Re: Rhetoric and the art of Collaborative Discussion
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:38 pm
by Jerky
Do my eyes deceive me, or is that Alex Jones in happier times?
Re: Rhetoric and the art of Collaborative Discussion
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:56 pm
by Elvis
I
said cut it out!

Re: Rhetoric and the art of Collaborative Discussion
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:58 pm
by liminalOyster
Re: Rhetoric and the art of Collaborative Discussion
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:43 pm
by chump
Re: Rhetoric and the art of Collaborative Discussion
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:09 pm
by peartreed
I’m curious about what other people here think are the reasons for the prevalence of such uncivil behavior, rude commentary, aggressive acrimony and personal insult on the forum threads, especially of late. Is it the protective anonymity of the author used as a cover?
Do we disregard any imperative for considerate conduct simply because we can? Would our conduct change if our real identities were openly disclosed to everyone?
We were all raised with varying degrees of religious education where the common precept was love for one another, or at least a set of commandments or precepts as protocols for respectful social considerations and interactions. Schooling was similarly set upon principles of proper civil conduct in personal, family and community relations to enhance positive relationships and supportive coexistence. Even our recreation and entertainment involved media and stories promoting chivalry, saviors, heroes, good guys, idols and superhero capes. Especially later, in business, we had to learn the importance of positive cooperation with others the hard way.
So how is it that otherwise well-bred, intelligent and mature, presumably gentle souls turn so sour and sadistic online?
I’ve noted the numerous insults, sarcasm, sneering and denigration aimed at several contributors here and have particularly been disgusted by the shots at SLAD and HS from insensitive, self-proclaimed intellectuals who otherwise show some manly traits.
I wonder if the insensitivity is a personal, psychological handicap from upbringing adversity or just an ignorant disregard for any critics daring to challenge strongly-held beliefs. Or is it all simply a reflection of changing, deteriorating culture of self, of egoism, where impact on others is of no importance to the pursuit of “winning”.
I also wonder why moderation is no longer practiced as a modifier of objectionable extremes, especially amongst favoured friends.
If Trump can rise to the presidency I suppose being a rude, crude egomaniac works, but have we also lost our social conscience in our pursuit of posting popularity, group acceptance or personal predominance?
The archives, if ever activated, might become, instead, at this rate, a Hall of Shame.