Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread
Posted: Thu May 05, 2022 9:35 pm
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Joe Hillshoist » 05 May 2022 23:21 wrote:Probably because it wasn't "so much higher". In a couple of instances it was nearly 10% outside the range for a week or two, thats about it tho.stickdog99 » 06 May 2022 06:40 wrote:https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/healt ... n-nov-2020
https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/healt ... 0-dec-2021
Why was Australia's all cause mortality so much higher in 2021 compared to 2020? According to official statistics, there were just 359 COVID deaths in the first 8 months of 2021 compared to 682 COVID deaths in the first 8 months of 2020. So why the far higher OVERALL 2021 mortality rate compared to that of 2020?
And why am I the only one on Earth asking this question?
Did you also notice that while we were in lockdown throughout 2020 our "all cause mortality rate" dropped significantly? Probably cos lockdowns save lives lol.
Stick: it is genuinely fascinating to witness. What's intriguing me at this moment is that some of the handful of friends who've asked me what I think then had the most intense emotional reaction when I tell them what I think, striding away in genuine anger, utterly disgusted, have begun approaching me in recent weeks, quietly apologising. Something's getting through. Not enough, but something....so blithely dismiss this level of unexplained excess mortality (over 2,500 excess deaths over just this 13 week period) with a "nearly 10% outside the range for a week or two, thats about it tho" smirk.
https://off-guardian.org/2022/04/19/pandemic-treaty-will-hand-who-keys-to-global-government/
The first public hearings on the proposed “Pandemic Treaty” are closed, with the next round due to start in mid-June.
We’ve been trying to keep this issue on our front page, entirely because the mainstream is so keen to ignore it and keep churning out partisan war porn and propaganda.
When we – and others – linked to the public submissions page, there was such a response that the WHO’s website actually briefly crashed, or they pretended it crashed so people would stop sending them letters.
Either way, it’s a win. Hopefully one we can replicate in the summer.
Until then, the signs are that what scant press coverage there is, mostly across the metaphorical back-pages of the internet, will be focused on making the treaty “strong enough” and ensuring national governments can be “held accountable”.
An article in the UK’s Telegraph from April 12th headlines:
It focuses on a report from the Panel for a Global Public Health Convention (GPHC), and quotes one of the report’s authors Dame Barbara Stocking:Real risk a pandemic treaty could be ‘too watered down’ to stop new outbreaks
The GPHC report goes on to say that the current International Health Regulations are “too weak”, and calls for the creation of a new “independent” international body to “assess government preparedness” and “publicly rebuke or praise countries, depending on their compliance with a set of agreed requirements”.Our biggest fear […] is it’s too easy to think that accountability doesn’t matter. To have a treaty that does not have compliance in it, well frankly then there’s no point in having a treaty,”
Another article, published by the London School of Economics and co-written by members of the German Alliance on Climate Change and Health (KLUG), also pushes the idea of “accountability” and “compliance” pretty hard:
It also echoes the UN report from May 2021 in calling for more powers for the WHO:For this treaty to have teeth, the organisation that governs it needs to have the power – either political or legal – to enforce compliance.
It recommends the involvement of “non-state actors” such as the World Bank, International Monetary Fund, World Trade Organisation and International Labour Organisation in the negotiations, and suggests the treaty offer financial incentives for the early reporting of “health emergencies” [emphasis added]:In its current form, the WHO does not possess such powers […]To move on with the treaty, WHO therefore needs to be empowered — financially, and politically.
In case of a declared health emergency, resources need to flow to countries in which the emergency is occurring, triggering response elements such as financing and technical support. These are especially relevant for LMICs, and could be used to encourage and enhance the timely sharing of information by states, reassuring them that they will not be subject to arbitrary trade and travel sanctions for reporting, but instead be provided with the necessary financial and technical resources they require to effectively respond to the outbreak.
It doesn’t stop there, however. They also raise the question of countries being punished for “non-compliance”:
To translate these suggestions from bureaucrat into English:[The treaty should possess] An adaptable incentive regime, [including] sanctions such as public reprimands, economic sanctions, or denial of benefits.
In combination, these proposed rules would literally incentivize reporting possible “disease outbreaks”. Far from preventing “future pandemics”, they would actively encourage them..If you report “disease outbreaks” in a “timely manner”, you will get “financial resources” to deal with them.
.If you don’t report disease outbreaks, or don’t follow the WHO’s directions, you will lose out on international aid and face trade embargoes and sanctions.
National governments who refuse to play ball being punished, and those who play along getting paid off is not new. We have already seen that with Covid.
Two African countries – Burundi and Tanzania – had Presidents who banned the WHO from their borders, and refused to go along with the Pandemic narrative. Both Presidents died unexpectedly within months of that decision, only to be replaced by new Presidents who instantly reversed their predecessor’s covid policies.
Less than a week after the death of President Pierre Nkurunziza, the IMF agreed to forgive almost 25 million dollars of Burundi’s national debt in order to help combat the Covid19 “crisis”.
Just five months after the death of President John Magufuli, the new government of Tanzania received 600 million dollars from the IMF to “address the covid19 pandemic”.
It’s pretty clear what happened here, isn’t it?
Globalists backed coups and rewarded the perpetrators with “international aid”. The proposals for the Pandemic treaty would simply legitimise this process, moving it from covert back channels to overt official ones.
Now, before we discuss the implications of new powers, let’s remind ourselves of the power the WHO already possesses:
We have already seen the WHO abuse these powers in order to create a fake pandemic out of thin air…and I’m not talking about covid.. The World Health Organization is the only institution in the world empowered to declare a “pandemic” or Public Health Emergency of International Concern (PHEIC).
.The Director-General of the WHO – an unelected position – is the only individual who controls that power.
Prior to 2008, the WHO could only declare an influenza pandemic if there were “enormous numbers of deaths and illness” AND there was a new and distinct subtype. In 2008 the WHO loosened the definition of “influenza pandemic” to remove these two conditions.
As a 2010 letter to the British Medical Journal pointed out, these changes meant “many seasonal flu viruses could be classified as pandemic influenza.”
If the WHO had not made those changes, the 2009 “Swine flu” outbreak could never have been called a pandemic, and would likely have passed without notice.
Instead, dozens of countries spent millions upon millions of dollars on swine flu vaccines they did not need and did not work, to fight a “pandemic” that resulted in fewer than 20,000 deaths. Many of those responsible for advising the WHO to declare swine flu a public health emergency were later shown to have financial ties to vaccine manufacturers.
Despite this historical example of blatant corruption, one proposed clause of the Pandemic Treaty would make it even easier to declare a PHEIC. According to the May 2021 report “Covid19: Make it the Last Pandemic” [emphasis added]:
Yes, the proposed treaty could allow the DG of the WHO to declare a state of global emergency to prevent a potential pandemic, not in response to one. A kind of pandemic pre-crime.Future declarations of a PHEIC by the WHO Director-General should be based on the precautionary principle where warranted
If you combine this with the proposed “financial aid” for developing nations reporting “potential health emergencies”, you can see what they’re building – essentially bribing third world governments to give the WHO a pretext for declaring a state of emergency.
We already know the other key points likely to be included in a pandemic treaty. They will almost certainly try to introduce international vaccine passports, and pour funding into big Pharma’s pockets to produce “vaccines” ever faster and with even less safety testing.
But all of that could pale in comparison to the legal powers potentially being handed to the director-general of the WHO (or whatever new “independent” body they may decide to create) to punish, rebuke or reward national governments.
A “Pandemic Treaty” that overrides or overrules national or local governments would hand supranational powers to an unelected bureaucrat or “expert”, who could exercise them entirely at his own discretion and on completely subjective criteria.
This is the very definition of technocratic globalism.
This is, of course, true. Italy’s adoption of China’s containment policy was one of the most important events instigating lockdowns across the free world—and, I would argue, one of the most darkly clever aspects of the lockdown operation. Limited information as to how Italy’s lockdowns transpired has been a hindrance. Thus, our case takes us to Europe’s ancient capital.It’s a communist one party state, we said. We couldn’t get away with it in Europe, we thought… And then Italy did it. And we realised we could…
On November 23, 2019, M5S founder Beppe Grillo—who had no official government position—met with China’s ambassador to Italy and attended a long meeting at the Chinese embassy, the details of which remain unknown.a. Develop and support prevention strategies, policies and actions to counter the following situation: exposure to etiological agents; individual and general population behaviors and attitudes related to the transmission of infections; the low compliance of health professionals with respect to the surveillance of communicable diseases and measures of prevention … and the non-standard behaviors and unserious attitudes of health professionals in care practices regarding risk and infection control.
b. Develop and support epidemiological surveillance, organization for infectious emergencies, communication for the population, training of health workers, the coordination between different institutional levels and various territorial competences during the implementation of prevention interventions, collection of information, systematic monitoring of the quality and the impact of the actions implemented…
f. Carry out cooperation activities like academic exchange, training and manoeuvres on emergency medical rescue and response of major public health emergency, i.e., natural disaster, accident-related disaster, nuclear biochemical emergency, infectious diseases pandemic like influenza.
This tip proved to be a near-perfect foretelling of subsequent events. Shortly after Conte confirmed Italy’s first two cases in Rome, hospitals in the Lombardy region, farther north, under the direction of regional health minister Giulio Gallera, began mass testing both symptomatic and asymptomatic individuals for Covid. On February 21, 2020, 15 cases of Covid were detected, and a Chinese-style lockdown of ten towns in Lombardy was immediately announced for 15 days to slow the spread. This lockdown order was officially signed into law by Health Minister Speranza two days later on February 23, 2020—the first lockdown order ever signed in a modern western country.[T]he WHO is already talking about how “problematic” modeling the Chinese response in Western countries is going to be, and the first country they want to try it out in is Italy. If it begins a large outbreak in a major Italian city they want to work through the Italian authorities and world health organizations to begin locking down Italian cities in a vain attempt to slow down the spread at least until they can develop and distribute vaccines, which btw is where you need to start investing… I just think it’s a really shitty thing to not be sharing this information with the public because they arrogantly think we’re all irrational and shouldn’t be informed as they are.
That same day, February 24, 2020, the WHO sent a Covid Joint Mission to Italy. The Joint Mission’s goals were defined as follows:What China has demonstrated is, you have to do this. If you do it, you can save lives and prevent thousands of cases of what is a very difficult disease.
According to the WHO Joint Mission’s own description, a containment strategy was already “being implemented globally” as of February 24, 2020.At this stage the focus is on limiting further human-to-human transmission… It is vital that we…put measures in place to prevent onward transmission… This aligns with the containment strategy currently being implemented globally in an effort to stop the spread of COVID-19.
Without Organized Resistance, the Amendments Will Definitely PassWe must act now to prevent the passage of the amendments, including putting sufficient pressure on the United States to withdraw them from consideration. If that fails, and the amendments are approved at the May meeting of the WHO governing body, we must then make the effort to influence a majority of the nations to change their votes to “no.”
Under the proposed regulations, WHO itself would develop and update “early warning criteria for assessing and progressively updating the national, regional, or global risk posed by an event of unknown causes or sources…” (New article 5). Notice that the health-endangering event may be so nonspecific as to have “unknown causes or sources.” Thus, Tedros and any future Director-Generals of WHO will be given unrestricted powers to define and then implement their interventions.Indicating the breadth of WHO’s scope of power, the agency will be given the right to involve multiple other U.N. agencies, including those related to food and agriculture, animal health, environmental programs, “or other relevant entities” (Article 6.1). This, too will not require the permission of the identified nation. The targeted nation is also required to send to WHO any relevant genetic sequence data. And as we have seen, the Foreward to these regulations presents a much larger array of potential collaborating agencies.
Of course I can. People weren't going to work and dying at work for a start. People weren't driving drunk at the same rate or drowning in pools, creeks and at beaches cos they were swimming drunk etc etc. No one was killed in random gym accidents etc etc.stickdog99 » 06 May 2022 11:37 wrote:
LOL. Is the cognitive dissonance really too great for you to handle?
Even if you can credit your beloved lockdowns for the lower mortality rates in May, June, and July of 2020 (during which there were 100 total COVID-19 deaths in Australia)...
I dunno.what do you credit for the huge excess in mortality (roughly 200 excess deaths every week for 13 weeks) in May, June, and July of 2021 (during which there were 22 total COVID-19 deaths in Australia)?
The whole continent wasn't locked down, and the lockdowns didn't happen because of a few hundred deaths but because of earlier infections. They happened in order to prevent thousand or tens of thousands of deaths and ... they worked. Compare how many Aussies died to the rest of the world over that period.It's hilarious to me that the same person who fully supported locking his whole continent down over a few hundred COVID-19 deaths (almost exclusively among people older than the average Australian age of mortality)
I'm not blithely dismissing it but what do you think its significance is - that vaccines caused all those deaths?would so blithely dismiss this level of unexplained excess mortality (over 2,500 excess deaths over just this 13 week period) with a "nearly 10% outside the range for a week or two, thats about it tho" smirk.





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Why did mandatory masking cause unruly behavior and why did it decline once the mandates were lifted?
Forced masking is dehumanizing - and not just because we need to see each other's faces. The act of being forced to lie is psychologically excruciating.https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/u ... ar-AAX07wrUnruly air passenger incidents fall after mask mandate lifted
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But the end of July, over 8 million Australians had received at least vaccine dose. Weren't these vaccines rolled out to the most vulnerable populations first as in every other county? And weren't the mortality rates above average every single week from the middle of September onward as well? Are you really contending that the two weeks of lower than average mortality in the middle and end of September somehow exonerate the vaccines from any suspicion of being correlated to higher than average death rates in every other week during their rollout?Those weeks don't correspond to any particular change in vaccine rollout rates. If anything the vaccine rollout was at a lower rate then whereas when it really ramped up in August and September the excess mortality rate drops. it wouldn't make sense that that would happen if those excess mortality rates were due to covid vaccines.
Wouldn't they stay higher during that period as well instead of dropping?
Something caused all of those excess deaths during a time in which 40+ million doses were administered to Australians, and it wasn't COVID-19. So what is your alternate theory?I'm not blithely dismissing it but what do you think its significance is - that vaccines caused all those deaths?
