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Agreed, Bruce; rehashing the same argument over and over is pointless.

And, regarding the Walt Disney topic itself, Slomo said it pretty well, as far as I am concerned:

slomo wrote:As for Disney, who gives a fuck, the guy's dead; this is a problem only if they succeed in reanimating his frozen head.

^^^
I'd have to disagree. Walt Disney possibly exploiting children when he ran the world's biggest entertainment dynasty that
caters to children could possibly have continuing repercussions down to this very day. If in fact what alleged was happening then a culture was probably fostered and a system which may still remain in place. Walt was known to have ties to industry and the military
and who knows what possible links he had, and Disney in general, to related dirty business. Britney Spears, Justin Timberlake, Christina Agulieura, etc may just be the most recent victims of his legacy and may play into a greater system in which Walt Disney was just a part. I don't need to remind people on the forum about MK Ultra, Monarch, etc. Seems a high placed person like Walt with a huge cultural influence on the hearts and minds of children would be a great asset.

And who knows how deep and entrenched his individual exploitation ran? Walt's last words were "Kurt Russell". That may mean a lot more now in retrospect.

and because slomo brought up the frightening possibility...

82_28 wrote:How can you say Idiocracy was "rubbish"? WTF ever. The film was brilliant and needed to be made. It was made.

What was wrong with Idiocracy?

Is this a windup? Is this a windup I see before me?

The plot wasn't there, the characterisation was non-existent, the humour was the same bad joke endlessly repeated. There was just nothing to it.

82_28 wrote:How can you say Idiocracy was "rubbish"? WTF ever. The film was brilliant and needed to be made. It was made.

What was wrong with Idiocracy?

Find the astonishing answer to your question on this thread:
http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/ ... 15&start=0

brekin wrote: Britney Spears, Justin Timberlake, Christina Agulieura, etc may just be the most recent victims of his legacy and may play into a greater system in which Walt Disney was just a part. I don't need to remind people on the forum about MK Ultra, Monarch, etc. Seems a high placed person like Walt with a huge cultural influence on the hearts and minds of children would be a great asset.

Just, wow.

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I have a few suggestions.

Instead of speculating about celebrities, you might remember that you are directly addressing real, not supposed, survivors of MK ULTRA related experimentation. Consider we may have other priorities than Britney Spears, not to mention the numerous ethical problems with, oh nevermind.

Speculating about celebrities is a game-like activity encouraged by conspirotainment sites that promulgate disinformation to cover-up the real crimes and human rights abuses of MKULTRA, and profit from the suffering of others, including us survivors on this board, consider that it might not be the best idea to encourage it here.

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Also, there is no evidence that any of the CIA, DOD, or other governmental agency-sponsored experiment programs into behavior control was named Monarch. In fact, the evidence suggests that project name was introduced as deliberate disinformation.

There absolutely are connections to Disney businesses in MC and child trafficking accounts, but there's no way I am going to discuss them in this thread. We've reviewed some of them in past threads I am fairly certain, if anyone wants to track them down.

Project Willow wrote:

brekin wrote:
Britney Spears, Justin Timberlake, Christina Agulieura, etc may just be the most recent victims of his legacy and may play into a greater system in which Walt Disney was just a part. I don't need to remind people on the forum about MK Ultra, Monarch, etc. Seems a high placed person like Walt with a huge cultural influence on the hearts and minds of children would be a great asset.

Just, wow.

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I have a few suggestions.

Instead of speculating about celebrities, you might remember that you are directly addressing real, not supposed, survivors of MK ULTRA related experimentation. Consider we may have other priorities than Britney Spears, not to mention the numerous ethical problems with, oh nevermind.

Oh god, this is wearisome. Britney Spears, Timberlake, & Aguilara are all former Disney kids. Timberlake went on to N'Sync managed by Lou Perlman a known pedophile. Each at times has appeared to have mental problems and there have been allegations of being controlled and groomed as "professional entertainers" and continue to be huge influences in our culture. Walt Disney being a possible exploiter of children who has built an empire that still stands makes an examination of those who are connected totally reasonable.

Speculating about celebrities is a game-like activity encouraged by conspirotainment sites that promulgate disinformation to cover-up the real crimes and human rights abuses of MKULTRA, and profit from the suffering of others, including us survivors on this board, consider that it might not be the best idea to encourage it here.

Again, this about Walt Disney and his allegations and where they may lead. I don't know if it is connected to MKULTRA or associated programs but I'm not going to dismiss the chance. If this is triggering for you or disturbing then I suggest
this may not be a thread you will want to view.

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Also, there is no evidence that any of the CIA, DOD, or other governmental agency-sponsored experiment programs into behavior control was named Monarch. In fact, the evidence suggests that project name was introduced as deliberate disinformation.

There absolutely are connections to Disney businesses in MC and child trafficking accounts, but there's no way I am going to discuss them in this thread. We've reviewed some of them in past threads I am fairly certain, if anyone wants to track them down.

I'd love to see past accounts if you have the time or if someone else can post them. I don't think there is anything wrong with posing the question whether or not Disney's allegations wouldn't dovetail with other similar programs. And please don't feel you have to discuss possible connections, I just ask you respect other's right to do so.

Off topic: I saw the television show Fringe last week and decided to rent the series this weekend. I have only watched the first season.

Much of that show is a dead ringer for MKULTRA type experiments.

The main character was a test subject in the programs at the age of three. Now she is an elite FBI agent assigned to the Fringe Unit.

I was shocked to find an entire series on this MC and the govt programs. Blew me away.

Back to Walt.

You're so right, SW -- especially as regards elements in the first two seasons.

Let's just say that JJ Abrams et al do their research.

Disney, his media companies, his entertainment parks, his films, publications and stories all contributed significantly to the education, entertainment and exploitation of children over the past eight decades. His products, particularly the "classic" animated adaptations of childrens' fables, songs and lyrics were used extensively in the mind control programming of kids and adults by MK Ultra experimenters and their ilk. Disney himself was a known alphabet agency asset.

His war propaganda films alone illustrated his alliance with extremist mind invaders.

To dismiss or limit discussion of that facet of this analysis of recent revelations about the man and his legacy would be ridiculous at best and coercive censorship at its worst.

My earlier post about the lyrics to, "When You Wish Upon A Star" was honest in admitting its influence on an impressionable mind but secretly facetious in that the warbling soprano of Jiminy Crickett played at the gates of The Magic Kingdom castle was but one of many siren songs for subsequent subversion of innocent minds, including subliminal orchestration and subconscious manipulation of behavior triggers. It was a life-long struggle to later try to separate the magic from the sociopathic sadists using it.

bks wrote:So can I ask you, Wombaticus, did you consider placing quotation marks around "gay pedophile" before deleting "gay"? Curious to know. And to others: would you have objected to quotes being placed around the offending phrase in the title?

No. Not how I am wired.

I recently burned most of my possessions because I no longer wanted to deal with their existence.

Wombaticus Rex wrote:I recently burned most of my possessions because I no longer wanted to deal with their existence.

You know, Wombat, I'm not much for religion anymore, but I do have a soft spot for people like Siddhartha and Francis. So... I truly admire that.

Don't, it was a very selfish method of cleaning up my creeping materialism. Born of laziness, not fortitude.

Okay. Fair enough. But if Siddhartha or Francis had said anything different, I'd have probably felt a twinge of disappointment.

peartreed wrote…

His war propaganda films alone illustrated his alliance with extremist mind invaders.

Yes and the invasion happens because we become convinced that we need someone to protect us from the wolfs. How does the wolf learn to so completely divorce their inner and outer expressions of personality and to fool so many into seeing their outer expression as being their deepest interior concern?

To dismiss or limit discussion of that facet of this analysis of recent revelations about the man and his legacy would be ridiculous at best and coercive censorship at its worst.

I agree, although we all are bound to work out our personal issues in the style best suited to where we are at the moment. I would not want to devalue cathartic opportunities of anyone, unless they were physically attacking me at the moment. Then I might devalue it real quick.