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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:31 am
by compared2what?
barracuda wrote:
compared2what? wrote: ***ON EDIT: Maybe that little chord progression at the very end that I've always thought was a quotation from somewhere in here, though I can never locate it when I try? I'm pretty sure it's from something. Though not the song by that name on the same record.
It's a riff on the end of "You Never Give Me Your Money" - the part where they sing, "1,2,3,4,5,6,7...all good children go to heaven", you know, just before "Polythene Pam". The Beatles riff sounds alittle like a similar riff from "Here Comes the Sun" which sounds kinda like a similar riff from the Cream song,"Badge".

The nursery rhyme words were written on a door found at Spahn Ranch which Bugliosi used to tie the Manson Family to the LaBianca killings.

Now, I told you 'bout our kid, he's not a tomato. Or tomahtoe. Let's call the whole thing off.
Thanks! I love "Badge" -- famously so named because that's how Eric Clapton read the word "bridge" as rendered by the hand of his co-writer George Harrison -- beyond all reason and with utter goopy sincerity. I mean, I love "White Room," too, but in part because after "In a white room" you are free to sing along with any random lyrics of your own devising without at all detracting from the value of the song. I usually just improvisationally furnish the whole lyrical house to suit my decor whims of the moment if I happen to hear it when at home.

But I'd feel that I was flying in the face of nature to even consider touching such eternal lines as "I told you bout the swans that they live in the park."

Proving once again that there's just no arguing about taste.

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:47 am
by compared2what?
You know, I am now newly sensitive to a certain common denominator in the rhythm guitar work of George Harrison, c. 1969 -'70. Possibly before and after that, too. But if so, I don't even want to know about it, so please don't tell me.

Beware of Darkness

Because, for one thing, it might be concealing swans. So don't say I didn't tell you bout them.

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:17 am
by MacCruiskeen

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:04 am
by MacCruiskeen
Fairport Convention at Maidstone, 1970 - intro commentary John Peel

"Fairport did for real ale what the Grateful Dead did for LSD." (Anonymous)

Paul Brady/Andy Irvine (1977): Paddy's Green Shamrock Shore

Ignore the hair - this is soul (and blues).

Paul Brady 1977: 'Wearin' the Britches'

Mutual domestic violence. Traditional.

(Jesus, this guy has a fantastic voice. Great musician too.)

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:21 pm
by barracuda
compared2what? wrote:You know, I am now newly sensitive to a certain common denominator...
But it's only plaintaively transcendent rock & roll!
Some common denominators on the Creamy side of things...

This song:
Cream - Tales of brave Ulysses

is based on this version of this song:
Judy Collins & Leonard Cohen - Suzanne

while the very beginning of Clapton's solo here (at about 1:57):
Cream - Sunshine of your Love

is taken from this song's opening lines:
Ella Fitzgerald - Blue moon

...though not neccessarily Ella's particular version. But If I can route a musical discussion to reference, at some tenuous point, the sound of this remarkable voice, I'll do it every time.

Image

She's positively glowing!

Footnote: Both Cream video's apparently are taken from a 1968 episode of the Smother's Brother's show. Amazing.

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:56 pm
by compared2what?
barracuda wrote:But If I can route a musical discussion to reference, at some tenuous point, the sound of this remarkable voice, I'll do it every time.
And I'd copy you.

Azure -- Ella, taking you with her to that place of pure and transcendent beauty to which only she has the key.

I swear to god that if it weren't for Spinal Tap, Cream would be lyrically untouchably in a class all their own. I just love them to pieces for that.

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:11 pm
by compared2what?
MacC, thanks so much for the Fairport Convention. Owing to some long-ago error that I've never been able to identify, I've been inexplicably Fairport-Convention deprived my entire life. It's terribly unjust, yet it is my cross to bear. I try not to be whiny about it, but it's always nice when someone is thoughtful enough to take pity on me in my tragedy.

Honestly, I love them, yet I am all but stone ignorant of them. I've never been able to account for it. It's apparently just one of those things that is completely beyond my power to affect for reasons that I guess are not yet known to science. Mystifying, but true.

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:25 pm
by MacCruiskeen
Wouldn't worry about it, c2w. I was an adolescent in the punk & post-punk years, and too shamefully cowed by fashion to admit, in public, to such unfashionable enthusiasms at the time. Always loved them though, thanks to my older brother.

God they were fantastic musicians, and they always had such a good time on stage too! - and merely by being such fantastic musicians. Beautiful-looking too, at that time, in a weird way, and I say this in as unandrogynously husky a voice as I can manage, which is pretty damn unandrogynous, you can believe me, I think.

something has come between us

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:42 pm
by annie aronburg

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:12 am
by OP ED
barracuda wrote: This song:
Cream - Tales of brave Ulysses
Easily my favorite song. I knew there must be some reason I like you so much.

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:35 am
by MacCruiskeen
Fairport Convention: "Time will show the wiser (1968)

Vocals Ian Matthews and Judy Dyble.

Great drumming by Martin Lamble, soon to be dead at the age of 19 when the band's van crashed after a gig.

Guitar by the amazing 18-year-old Richard Thompson.

Image

(This was when they were still trying to sound like the Byrds or Jefferson Airplane, and succeeding.)

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:44 am
by Pierre d'Achoppement

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:34 pm
by streeb
I don't know why I have such an attachment to this theme from a not-very-good British 80s sitcom, but I do, to this day, after about a million years. Don't ask me why. I wish it was longer, by about an hour or so.

Sorry

I know it's not exactly Ella Fitzgerald. Sorry.

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:39 pm
by annie aronburg

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:24 am
by Jeff