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barracuda wrote:I'd agree with you 100%, but he was pulled out of high school after sophomore year. Therein is the seed of my distrust in the yearbook idea.

Maybe it's his sophomore year photo, though. It certainly looks like it. Seniors typically get more white space and a vaguely patterned backdrop, although there is some variability, within normal parameters.

Well, so far, all we've actually established is that many Americans presume it is a yearbook photo of Adam Lanza, or think it looks like a yearbook photo of Adam Lanza. But so what,exactly?

What I would like to see, by contrast, --- I know, I know, how absurdly exacting, right? -- is verifiable evidence that it is in a fact a yearbook photo of Adam Lanza. Such as a film of that photo on that page of that actual yearbook, for instance. Or an interview with some of his former-fellow-students-with-actual-names confirming that it is in fact a yearbook photo of Adam Lanza. For example.

Or at least a link to -- say -- some cop-with-an-actual-name saying on the record that it's a yearbook photo of Adam Lanza. That kind of thing. That would be a start. Plus the date. I mean the year, because why be absurdly exacting, right?

Because it looks nothing like the other, verifiable, sourced, authentic photos of Adam Lanza. It looks like somebody else.

Mille grazie.

ok, wait, is it a colorized blowup of the Tech Club picture?

as to why an original would be black and white, it's a SCAN from a monochrome page of the yearbook, so it's also had image filtering done to it to remove the halftone pattern (though its still slightly visible in some versions). I would think the yearbook staff and/or possibly even the yearbook printer would have a color version, as it is unlikely the camera was set for b&w.

I don't know, Mac, I think Willow's comment and dancin' frog was quite timely. At the moment of her posting I was searching for just the right words... these will have to do, "These are patients who are already prone to be attracted to woo and who have come to think from reading various websites and other sources of information."

Amazing, really. Especially when we're so far removed from the scene, the things we readily accept and trust and those we doubt and demand proof for. The proof for the one we trust and accept being no greater than any we could produce for that which we doubt. So a lot must be taken for granted. Unless you want to travel to Newtown and begin your own personal investigation with access to the actual "evidence."

But no matta whut, ya gotta keep dancin'...

compared2what? wrote:Not that it's definitive, but fwiw, my belief that the picture in question was a yearbook photo originated when I first laid eyes on it, in much the same way that my belief that a particular tree was a tree would have done if that had been what I had happened to be looking at.

I pretty much figured that Mac's questions about it arose from his having been blessed enough to avoid the fully immersive cultural experience that comes with being born and raised in the U.S. of A., therefore. But since it had already been addressed by the time I saw it, I also figured it was a moot point.

Anyway. Am I the only person in America who recognizes a yearbook photo when she sees one? Because I really don't mind if I am. I'd be happy to discover I was that gifted, in fact. It's just that I never realized..

It never struck me as a yearbook photo because it's just too ET-like and strange. Even a rank amateur yearbook photographer could surely coax a less zombified expression. Plus there's the blue field. That might make it a particularly bad driver's license photo but there's still the unreal expression and hair, which make it look to me more like an age-progression photo generated in a police lab from bad software. That would explain the vague resemblance to the lunchbag photo: same shirt collar, same bangs, but a lengthened forehead, phony mouth, and bungled digital haircut:

MacCruiskeen wrote:

It might also explain the police-station provenance, if that's where it came from, also maybe the funny colors.

p.s. the lunchbag photo is identified upthread as having been taken when Lanza attended St. Rose elementary in his 3rd-grade year.

MacCruiskeen wrote:Or an interview with some of his former-fellow-students-with-actual-names confirming that it is in fact a yearbook photo of Adam Lanza. For example.

Right, because persons who have lent their actual names to stories vaguely periferal to this incident have come out so well from doing so.

lupercal wrote: an age-progression photo generated in a police lab from bad software.

Straight out of the September Clues no-planer playbook, people. Now he's a sim. Awesome.

Mac wrote:Mille grazie

Prego.

^^I wish that had been French, though. Cause I got of nothing to give you wrt the points of inquiry that went before it, I very much regret to say.

I don't know, Mac. I' m basically in sympathy with you always, in an atmospheric sense. But within both the letter and the spirit of the law, trying to answer your questions on this thread is exactly, completely and entirely like trying to convince someone that just because there isn't eyewitness testimony, or a formal indictment, or charges and documentation that have withstood the challenges of an open courtroom, that doesn't mean that the United States didn't run Operation Gladio, however counter to that someone's own experience of what a generically considered U.S.A.'s feelings about fascism, terrorism and the funding thereof that reality may be.

Lost cause, in other words. Because in the abstract, it's not unreasonable to point out that a well-documented hypothetical scenario that implicates a person and/or persons in criminal conduct hasn't literally proven those parties guilty by the customary standards for such things. It's just unaddressable. Neither I nor any other individual can or will ever have the power to supply those demands, either for Gladio or here. It would take an institutional process to do that.

Anyway. It's not unreasonable in the abstract for you to ask for those things, imo. But since there's no reasonable expectation that asking them will ever make anyone here (or, ftm, anywhere) any more able to give you an answer to them than "not at all," after a certain point it does get to be more of a philosophical exercise than anything else, I feel,

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

ok, I can find a pic of the Tech Club photo in yearbook context, the headshot version, I'm not finding anything like a basic source for, it may indeed be retouched or something. I've seen it said to be from a 2005 yearbook. ABC and WSJ state that the Tech Club pic is from 2008 yearbook.

ok Mac, I'm now unsure WTF that picture in question is from

lupercal wrote: It never struck me as a yearbook photo because it's just too ET-like and strange. Even a rank amateur yearbook photographer could surely coax a less zombified expression. Plus there's the blue field. That might make it a particularly bad driver's license photo but there's still the unreal expression and hair, which make it look to me more like an age-progression photo generated in a police lab from bad software. That would explain the vague resemblance to the lunchbag photo: same shirt collar, same bangs, but a lengthened forehead, phony mouth, and bungled digital haircut:

FWIW, I've seen that blue thing in class photos. I have such a one from a few years ago in the other room, as a matter of fact. Though not of me, obviously.

But that's just a point of information, really. I don't have any trouble believing that it's a yearbook picture myself. But I don't actually know where it came from. Inasmuch as a news subject of whom few photos appear to be extant via other channels can be said to be a standard circumstance, I believe that it's a pretty standard thing for the big media outlets to snap up all the yearbooks in the right date range that they can lay hands on the second they realize that's where it's at. Even when it's not that much of a photo-medium desert, people can get hundreds of dollars that way for their yearbooks sometimes. Depends who they went to high school with.

That won't be happening to me, though. Because, seriously. All those quotes from "Running On Empty." Who'd have thought they might be worth anything to anybody ever? Several decades ago, nobody. That's who.

Talk about looking back on the road rushing under your wheels. I'm telling you.

On the photo, FWIW ....

I actually worked as a yearbook photographer. I've seen far worse expressions and postures. It's blurry, like the rest, but the blue mottled background is standard. Two things argue against a school photo, the close shadow around his neck, and the resolution. Yearbook photos are shot in color, but all the grades below senior are usually printed B&W, even today, to save on costs. It looks more like a passport photo done in a drugstore, but with its resolution altered.
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Iamwhomiam wrote:I don't know, Mac, I think Willow's comment and dancin' frog was quite timely.

I erred by quoting Mac there when in my head I was trying to inject some levity in general to thread, with the "We don't know" referring to most, if not all of us, but it was interpreted as a personal attack which of course was returned in the worst of personal ways.

What I find confounding and stultifying are the reactions to the case on this board, but I am still looking for causes other than the shear trauma of 20 dead children to account for them, which I think for most people is quite enough.... and sad beyond words.

ya know, sometimes it's just TOO MUCH.

remember the damn batman movie prop map that showed a place named Sandy Hook?

they guy who most likely made it, lived in Newton and is dead from a car accident. the drive who hit him survived. that seems like a heck of a coincidence brownie.

http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/ar ... 465225.php

justdrew wrote:ya know, sometimes it's just TOO MUCH.

remember the damn batman movie prop map that showed a place named Sandy Hook?

they guy who most likely made it, lived in Newton and is dead from a car accident. the driver who hit him survived. that seems like a heck of a coincidence brownie.

http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/ar ... 465225.php

well that's just plain weird and woo...

Getzinger suffered multiple broken bones, but was described as conscious and alert after being cut out of the 2002 Ford F-150 pickup truck he was driving. State police initially characterized his injuries as non-life threatening.

There may be something to the picture thing, hard to say. But from a coding perspective for long term projections of disaster mitigation I look at it like this:
Adam Lanza
aaaadlmnz
mad aaa lnz
mad a/l a/n a/z
Mad 1/12 1/14 1/26
Mad man on December 14th kill 26
Mitigate Hurricane Sandy to Sandy Hook
Cut the hook out of the feelingless fishbellies. [(Global panic is nigh) convince them it is not happening and the pain we will feel is not real – form of psychological torture].
Simple anagraming of Hurricane Sandy = (anarchy insured)
Sandy Hook = Snaky Hood
Revision to Superstorm Sandy = Sporty Mad Nurses
mother Nancy Lanza = anchor zany mental

Adam Lanza update: Sandy Hook Elementary shooter has no brain deformities, medical examiner says


The Hearst Connecticut Media Group reported that Dr. H. Wayne Carver II, who autopsied the body of the gunman Adam Lanza, said an examination of Lanza’s brain showed nothing unusual.

“It’s a fishing expedition,” he said. “I don’t think we’ll find answers. But that doesn’t mean you don’t look.”
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The toxicology exam, which could take several weeks, involves testing body fluids for psychiatric medications or illegal substances. Carver said the result could provide “potentially valuable information” in creating a full picture of Lanza.

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While still in the possession of the medical examiner, Lanza’s body may have been the subject of interest beyond medical reasons. An employee was accused of showing the body to her husband, who is not a state employee, just days after the shooting.

Read more: http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/national/a ... z2Igha5Jqf

I hesitate to step into this thread, but dilated pupils can make a blue-eyed person's eyes look dark, especially in a black and white photo. And a number of drugs have that effect, as does the nasty stuff that eye doctors use before exams. I used to have an especially horrid ID photo that made me look as though I had very dark eyes, when in fact they're a light-to-medium blue gray. Just sayin'...

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