IS JOSEPH CAMPBELL AN ANTI-SEMITE?

[American Dream]

So you're not prejudiced or anything, but...?

[Jerky]

I expect better than easy cheap-shots from this board.

So you're not prejudiced or anything, but...

[American Dream]

I expect better than easy cheap-shots from this board.

So you're not prejudiced or anything, but...

That's sort of a non-answer.

Where are you going with this?

[Jerky]

So, just to get is straight in my head before we continue.

Criticizing the Roman Catholic Church in toto... It's done here all the time without people freaking out, so I assume it's groovy.

Criticizing Fascism in toto and Nazism in toto... I assume that's okay here, too, as it's done all the time, even though not EVERYBODY who was a party member of those groups was a murderous monster, surely? I mean, there were MILLIONS of them!

Criticizing the CIA is okay. I don't see anybody bending over backwards to criticize only INDIVIDUAL AGENTS or anything. The idea "CIA = Bad!" is freely flung here all the time.

Curious, isn't it?

[Jerky]

It was sort of a non-question, though, wasn't it?

I expect better than easy cheap-shots from this board.

So you're not prejudiced or anything, but...

That's sort of a non-answer.

Where are you going with this?

[Wombaticus Rex]

Is it possible that one must BE an Anti-Semite to be a good person?

Not hate all Jews, but something about Jewishness? About what Jewishness has become?

No: Really.

Keep going. Expand on that.

[DrVolin]

Joseph Campbell was on the Mankind Quarterly, the last refuge of scientific racism. That fact alone speaks volumes. Within a few months of its creation in the early 60s, after its orientation had become clear, many of the original board members resigned in protest. Campbell didn't. Campbell worked in the Dumézilian comparative mythology tradition, a movement very close to pre-war european fascism, and linked with the German Ahnenerbe, whose mission was to document and reconstruct the original structure of indo-european (i.e. Aryan) mythology and society. The semantics had to change post-war, but the ideology clearly remained fairly unchanged.

[American Dream]

It was sort of a non-question, though, wasn't it?

I expect better than easy cheap-shots from this board.

So you're not prejudiced or anything, but...

That's sort of a non-answer.

Where are you going with this?

"Where are you going with this?" is very clear English- and so far you have avoided that question.

[Jerky]

Is it possible that one must BE an Anti-Semite to be a good person?

Not hate all Jews, but something about Jewishness? About what Jewishness has become?

No: Really.

Keep going. Expand on that.

Why?

[Jerky]

It was sort of a non-question, though, wasn't it?

I expect better than easy cheap-shots from this board.

So you're not prejudiced or anything, but...

That's sort of a non-answer.

Where are you going with this?

"Where are you going with this?" is very clear English- and so far you have avoided that question.

First of all, I'm not a fucking dancing monkey for you to push and boss around. If I don't feel like answering a question posed rudely to me by someone who has just been rude to me, then you're just going to have to accept my non-answer and deal with it. Who the fuck do you think you are, demanding anything of me? If we were in the same room I doubt you could look me in the eye.

Jerky

[American Dream]

Is it possible that one must BE an Anti-Semite to be a good person?

Not hate all Jews, but something about Jewishness? About what Jewishness has become?

No: Really.

Keep going. Expand on that.

Why?

[Wombaticus Rex]

Why, right? A reasonable sounding question. Gosh, why?

Well, bluntly, because I see no fucking difference between "the questions" you're "just asking" and the entire discourse of David Duke.

Recap:

Is it possible that one must BE an Anti-Semite to be a good person?

Not hate all Jews, but something about Jewishness? About what Jewishness has become?

My question again: Where are you going with that?

[Jerky]

All I've done is ask rhetorical / theoretical questions, and all you guys (the two of you anyway) have done is attack me like I WAS David Duke.

Are you capable of even addressing the issue I've raised?

[Wombaticus Rex]

Are you capable of even addressing the issue I've raised?

I have done nothing but.

Take a break from posting for awhile.

[Jerky]

This will be my last post in this TOPIC. If anybody wants to continue the conversation, I will gladly take it to PM.

My Great Hero in this life is Stanley Kubrick (Polish Jew). I tell you this, and that half my friends are Jewish, NOT to inoculate myself against accusations of personal Anti-Semitism on my part, but because it's TRUE. Most of them share my worldview about everything up to and including the villainy of modern-day Israel (with a couple of exceptions). And I have never had ANY of them get angry with me during discussions about this topic. And yet, here... Wow.

For all intents and purposes, whether it likes to admit it or not, this is a "mystic" message board. And personally, I have felt that the RigInt egregore's inability to grapple with this central issue has left it to wallow in surface woo.

The substance of history crackles and booms all around us, and all that's left for us to ponder are the faux gravitas of Bob Dylan lyrics and the kooky high weirdness of David Lynch films.

We are a group circling a vast, gigantic, terribly gravitational Zero Point that we can't - out of sheer politeness and social engineering - ever even talk about. I think it's a crippling flaw. I think we should be able to address it honestly and openly without fear of being ostracized and despised.

Am I really REALLY the only one here who feels that the board's Anti-Anti-Semitism has gone overboard, lately? I mean, for fuck's sake, we can't even discuss Gilad Atzmon here anymore! Who next? Norman Finklestein?!

Sincerely,
YOPJ