2016 Presidential Election

[stickdog99]

Old California joke

Q. What's the best thing about Fresno?

A. It's not Bakersfield.

[Luther Blissett]

where did you get that idea...I would never throw my vote away...just to make me feel good ...I would never take the easy way out just to clear my conscience ...it doesn't work that way ..I just don't show up once every 4 years and "do my part"


how much time have you spent on your local elections?

how much time have you spent with the Green Party?

Tammy Duckworth and Russ Feingold are going to be elected....yes voting does make a difference

to real ordinary people ..living real ordinary lives.......parents trying to raise decent human beings ..it makes a difference

if Illinois and Wisconsin citizens didn't vote Illinois and Wisconsin would look like Kansas

I'm overjoyed to hear that you're voting Stein.

What part of my posting history makes it seem like I am only civically active once every four years? I'm helping build a coalition of the left with a 40 year plan to build people power. We're five years in.

Especially given that Citizens United gives Wall Street and the corporatocracy a direct path for buying and installing politicians? Yes I've been involved in the Green Party, and proudly voted for a woman president in 2012 in protest of the murder of 16-year old American child Abdulrahman al-Awlaki by the U.S. government, amongst other crimes. But nowhere near as much as I've been involved in organizing, coalition building, protest, art, civil disobedience, and disruption.

How are we going to be able to fight Clinton and make her administration more humanitarian? Most of her supporters do not seem very interested in black lives, indigenous lives, the health of our air, water, and soil, or the lives of non-American women and children. I don't see holding the Democrats' feet to the fire without insurrection, but I do feel rumblings from the Occupy / Black Lives Matter / Sacred Stone Camp / former Sanders supporters cadres. After learning that an Ojibwe friend is at Sacred Stone Camp just yesterday morning I had to watch Clinton give praise to that industry in the debates.

[seemslikeadream]

where did you get that idea...I would never throw my vote away...just to make me feel good ...I would never take the easy way out just to clear my conscience ...it doesn't work that way ..I just don't show up once every 4 years and "do my part"


how much time have you spent on your local elections?

how much time have you spent with the Green Party?

Tammy Duckworth and Russ Feingold are going to be elected....yes voting does make a difference

to real ordinary people ..living real ordinary lives.......parents trying to raise decent human beings ..it makes a difference

if Illinois and Wisconsin citizens didn't vote Illinois and Wisconsin would look like Kansas

I'm overjoyed to hear that you're voting Stein.

What part of my posting history makes it seem like I am only civically active once every four years? I'm helping build a coalition of the left with a 40 year plan to build people power. We're five years in.

Especially given that Citizens United gives Wall Street and the corporatocracy a direct path for buying and installing politicians? Yes I've been involved in the Green Party, and proudly voted for a woman president in 2012 in protest of the murder of 16-year old American child Abdulrahman al-Awlaki by the U.S. government, amongst other crimes. But nowhere near as much as I've been involved in organizing, coalition building, protest, art, civil disobedience, and disruption.

How are we going to be able to fight Clinton and make her administration more humanitarian? Most of her supporters do not seem very interested in black lives, indigenous lives, the health of our air, water, and soil, or the lives of non-American women and children. I don't see holding the Democrats' feet to the fire without insurrection, but I do feel rumblings from the Occupy / Black Lives Matter / Sacred Stone Camp / former Sanders supporters cadres. After learning that an Ojibwe friend is at Sacred Stone Camp just yesterday morning I had to watch Clinton give praise to that industry in the debates.

well we all are involve in stuff no one knows about here...so I am sorry that I did not know what you were doing...how was I supposed to know that?


It happens to me all the fucking time here

You might want to look into this Nordic.....that's me and Cynthia McKinney at the Green Party Convention ...you have no idea who you are talking to...so quit fucking judging me....YOU have NO idea...period

[Luther Blissett]

I'm pretty open with my activism, though I'm not saying it's not on you to read every post and every thread. Like I myself only read probably 5% of the threads on here.

I saw the McKinney pics and was jealous.

Here's a Mandela effect for you…didn't she run in the Democratic primary in 2004 very early on or am I losing my mind? I can clearly remember her on a primary debate stage and I thought I even voted for her in that primary.

[seemslikeadream]

she won her Congressional seat back in 2004

[km artlu]

And now for some truly insightful political commentary:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCPAY5X4f0A

[Agent Orange Cooper]

this election has turned everyone into blithering idiots

[JackRiddler]

I have an idea, SLAD, that you are suddenly flooding the board with new threads and all existing threads with endless repetitions of low-grade Brock-style talking points. And I have no idea what you think this accomplishes on R.I., other than general annoyance.

I shall address one only: Bill Clinton is absolutely fair game. HRC has touted him as her most important economic advisor in the coming administration. He is out there every day campaigning as a surrogate, doing so as former President Clinton and not simply as the supporting husband. HRC played a key and active role in his administration and his campaigns. She constantly harkens back to his era as the golden age she intends to restore, with his help, and she did so again at the debate yesterday. Of course he and his character and his alleged sex crimes are all fair game. For acceptable, political reasons. The same is true of, say, HRC's announced mentor, Kissinger. Or her embrace of endorsements from the Bush regime's fugitive war criminals, including Negroponte and Rice.

Anyway, obviously Trump must be kept out. Fascism is no solution. So instead of wasting your time here, why don't you take these particular efforts to places where you might sway some undecideds or Republicans not to vote for him?

Hint: There as well, negativity about him will work a lot better, because it is true, than bullshit purporting to show why Clinton is a wonderful person who loves children, etc. etc. See your candidate's campaign for tips: It's always hit Trump, hit Trump, hit Trump, and hell rightly so; then, maybe, she trots out the bullshit to take credit for S-Chip and how she helped children a million years ago, or how she heroically rebuilt New York after 9/11.

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[seemslikeadream]

you are free to ignore the threads and stop posting in them

I don't need any suggestions from you and I will continue to answer all posts directed at me

I have every right to be here....and I am not leaving

I have never said a word about Clinton only that she should not be blamed for her husbands deeds....I will continue to post this as long as the misogynyists here continue to blame her for her husbands actions..when they stop I will stop

[JackRiddler]

I am equally free to write what I like, and even, like you, to repeat it ad infinitum by using the "quote" function. In this case, it's at least my very own copy pasta. Also, it's fucking true and you don't like it because you have no answer. Tough.

I have an idea, SLAD, that you are suddenly flooding the board with new threads and all existing threads with endless repetitions of low-grade Brock-style talking points. And I have no idea what you think this accomplishes on R.I., other than general annoyance.

I shall address one only: Bill Clinton is absolutely fair game. HRC has touted him as her most important economic advisor in the coming administration. He is out there every day campaigning as a surrogate, doing so as former President Clinton and not simply as the supporting husband. HRC played a key and active role in his administration and his campaigns. She constantly harkens back to his era as the golden age she intends to restore, with his help, and she did so again at the debate yesterday. Of course he and his character and his alleged sex crimes are all fair game. For acceptable, political reasons. The same is true of, say, HRC's announced mentor, Kissinger. Or her embrace of endorsements from the Bush regime's fugitive war criminals, including Negroponte and Rice.

Anyway, obviously Trump must be kept out. Fascism is no solution. So instead of wasting your time here, why don't you take these particular efforts to places where you might sway some undecideds or Republicans not to vote for him?

Hint: There as well, negativity about him will work a lot better, because it is true, than bullshit purporting to show why Clinton is a wonderful person who loves children, etc. etc. See your candidate's campaign for tips: It's always hit Trump, hit Trump, hit Trump, and hell rightly so; then, maybe, she trots out the bullshit to take credit for S-Chip and how she helped children a million years ago, or how she heroically rebuilt New York after 9/11.

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[seemslikeadream]

go ahead your choice

I ain't leaving or am I going to stop posting

I have an idea ...leave me alone


2 fucking threads Jack.....2 fucking threads


NOT FUCKING flooding the board

so tell it to the hand

[82_28]

this election has turned everyone into blithering idiots

Not just here but everywhere even irl. Let's just get along.

[JackRiddler]

go ahead your choice

I ain't leaving or am I going to stop posting

I have an idea ...leave me alone


2 fucking threads Jack.....2 fucking threads


NOT FUCKING flooding the board

so tell it to the hand

That's too bad. I'm just giving you some friendly advice on how to be more effective, if supporting Clinton is now your thing.

Bill Clinton is absolutely fair game. HRC has touted him as her most important economic advisor in the coming administration. He is out there every day campaigning as a surrogate, doing so as former President Clinton and not simply as the supporting husband. HRC played a key and active role in his administration and his campaigns. She constantly harkens back to his era as the golden age she intends to restore, with his help, and she did so again at the debate yesterday. Of course he and his character and his alleged sex crimes are all fair game. For acceptable, political reasons. The same is true of, say, HRC's announced mentor, Kissinger. Or her embrace of endorsements from the Bush regime's fugitive war criminals, including Negroponte and Rice.

Anyway, obviously Trump must be kept out. Fascism is no solution. So instead of wasting your time here, why don't you take these particular efforts to places where you might sway some undecideds or Republicans not to vote for him?

Hint: There as well, negativity about him will work a lot better, because it is true, than bullshit purporting to show why Clinton is a wonderful person who loves children, etc. etc. See your candidate's campaign for tips: It's always hit Trump, hit Trump, hit Trump, and hell rightly so; then, maybe, she trots out the bullshit to take credit for S-Chip and how she helped children a million years ago, or how she heroically rebuilt New York after 9/11.

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[seemslikeadream]

I am not supporting Clinton I am against blaming women for mens deeds...that 's all I have ever said


but the men here keep doing it...as your post indicates

so until it stops I will call it out

[Agent Orange Cooper]

this election has turned everyone into blithering idiots

Not just here but everywhere even irl. Let's just get along.

yes, by everyone I do mean everyone. myself included.