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Really? I usually keep google news: "Trump" open all the time just for the latest Lolz and that has really gone by the wayside next to all the other stuff...a non-stop shitstorm of idiocy seems to be the main message...Nordic » Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:50 pm wrote:It's funny because I was just perusing the news and there are all these warnings about Trump's looming authoritarianism.
Yeah. And not for the first time. I still say millionaires are a dime a dozen, "the elite" is more like, if you have to ask, you can't afford it.JackRiddler » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:30 pm wrote:You are both (elvis and brekin) writing about Moore without bothering to define or agree on common definitions of "elite," class, institutions, power, position, etc. Thus you are bound to talk past each other, with the advantage of being completely right, no matter what you say, even if you don't even know what you said. And you can be certain the other guy is wrong.
The prospect of the country's intelligence apparatus working against rather than for an elected President is an incredibly dangerous one. We even have a report from the Wall Street Journal from last night which says that the Intelligence Community is withholding some information from the President and his top aides for fear it might be leaked to hostile powers.
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The idea that the nation's intelligence and law enforcement agencies may be taking it upon themselves to overturn or disrupt the results of a national election cuts to the heart of the legitimacy and existence of our government. In early January, there were reports out of Israel that US intelligence officials had warned their Israeli counterparts against sharing certain intelligence with the United States under President Trump for fear the information could be passed on to Russia and from Russia on to Iran. This is extremely dangerous ground.
Well met, you have finally become.... R.I.'s answer to Shia LeBeouf.JackRiddler » Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:24 am wrote:Fuck off.km artlu » Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:54 pm wrote:the anti-Trump social justice mob
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Robert David Steele, Chief Enabling Officer (CeO) of Earth Intelligence Network, has today published a 733-word document online that lists and expands on the following seven predictions:
01 Preibus Goes
02 Trump Doubles-Down on Wrong Approach to National Security & National Strategy
03 Bannon Gets Playmates (Cynthia McKinney & Dennis Kucinich, Ralph Nader, Jesse Ventura)
04 Electoral Reform Act – paper ballots, end of private money in public politics
05 Trump Channel – press removed from White House
06 Debt Be Gone – 3 trillion in individual debt renegotiated personally by the President
07 Secure Communications for Everyone – NSA on the chopping block
He is actually serious about this? THis is what you want considered as cogent analysis??03 Bannon Gets Playmates
This will shock some, but the idea is being considered and the main players get it. The Trump team is too white, too old, and too fat. They need black – Cynthia McKinney – and skinny center-left ethical – Dennis Kucinich. Throw in Ralph Nader supporting Jeff Sessions in some capacity, and Jesse Ventura as Governor-General with Mike Huckabee as a side-kick – both assuring state rights are front and center, and you have a diversity machine ready to kick some ass. This will stop the looming “American Spring” violence being planned by George Soros and others, if Trump also barnstorms the country with his new team – 50 states in 30 days – explaining to the public why they should demand and embrace the …
Yea, but Greenwald lives in Brazil.RocketMan » Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:21 am wrote:https://www.democracynow.org/2017/2/16/ ... p_state_to
Greenwald: Empowering the "Deep State" to Undermine Trump is Prescription for Destroying Democracy
Also Talking Points Memo's very establishment Josh Marshall is sounding a tentative alarm over the triumphalist boosting of the "intelligence community" by liberals for perceived short-sighted gain.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/dangerous-ground
The prospect of the country's intelligence apparatus working against rather than for an elected President is an incredibly dangerous one. We even have a report from the Wall Street Journal from last night which says that the Intelligence Community is withholding some information from the President and his top aides for fear it might be leaked to hostile powers.
[...]
The idea that the nation's intelligence and law enforcement agencies may be taking it upon themselves to overturn or disrupt the results of a national election cuts to the heart of the legitimacy and existence of our government. In early January, there were reports out of Israel that US intelligence officials had warned their Israeli counterparts against sharing certain intelligence with the United States under President Trump for fear the information could be passed on to Russia and from Russia on to Iran. This is extremely dangerous ground.
Refreshingly constructive, actually. Not a word you hear around RI much.SonicG » Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:30 pm wrote:This guy?Robert David Steele, Chief Enabling Officer (CeO) of Earth Intelligence Network, has today published a 733-word document online that lists and expands on the following seven predictions:
01 Preibus Goes
02 Trump Doubles-Down on Wrong Approach to National Security & National Strategy
03 Bannon Gets Playmates (Cynthia McKinney & Dennis Kucinich, Ralph Nader, Jesse Ventura)
04 Electoral Reform Act – paper ballots, end of private money in public politics
05 Trump Channel – press removed from White House
06 Debt Be Gone – 3 trillion in individual debt renegotiated personally by the President
07 Secure Communications for Everyone – NSA on the chopping blockHe is actually serious about this? THis is what you want considered as cogent analysis??03 Bannon Gets Playmates
This will shock some, but the idea is being considered and the main players get it. The Trump team is too white, too old, and too fat. They need black – Cynthia McKinney – and skinny center-left ethical – Dennis Kucinich. Throw in Ralph Nader supporting Jeff Sessions in some capacity, and Jesse Ventura as Governor-General with Mike Huckabee as a side-kick – both assuring state rights are front and center, and you have a diversity machine ready to kick some ass. This will stop the looming “American Spring” violence being planned by George Soros and others, if Trump also barnstorms the country with his new team – 50 states in 30 days – explaining to the public why they should demand and embrace the …
04 Electoral Reform Act
The system is rigged twelve different ways. We fix that and it changes everything. There is one big move – and one big move only – that can slam the Establishment back into a small box, liberate the Members from financial dependences, empower Trump with the popular vote across all boundaries, and make evidence-based governance in the public interest possible. The Electoral Reform Act that many activists have been calling for since Occupy first considered the matter in 2011 is a transformative move.
05 Trump Channel
Preibus stopped the original and correct instinct of the president, to throw the press corps out of the White House. A Trump Channel – picture a daily seven-minute Presidential fireside chat, multiple fifteen minute briefs by Cabinet officials across all policy domains, and presidential tweets that ask a question answered by 150 million or more via PollMole, our new secret weapon for direct democracy, on a Presidential Dashboard that can drill down to individual Congressional districts and specific demographics. Good-bye fake news media, hello power to the people.
06 Debt Be Gone
Donald Trump came into office acutely aware of the sovereign debt. He was less aware of the fact that individual, family, and small business debt is three trillion dollars and rising. Now he understands that a Debt Renunciation Pledge at a non-profit website outside the government, one that empowers Donald Trump as an individual to renegotiate that debt, does two things: first, it give Donald Trump the specifics including the email address of every person opting in (say 100 million), and second, it allows Donald Trump to go to the banks and do what he has done so well for himself: renegotiate the debt. No President has ever connected to the public so directly. This is another game-changer.
07 Secure Communications for Everyone, NSA Dismantled by Executive Order
The National Security Agency (NSA) has been spying on all US politicians (including Barack Obama since he was a junior Senator according to Russ Tice, NSA whistle-blower). There is a new technology that the Trump team used to good effect during the campaign, Defense Enabling and Assisting Framework (DEAF). It is said to be impervious to interception; does not “flag” the exchange as an encrypted exchange warranting deeper scrutiny, and installation on one device automatically extends to all other devices exchanging information with the host unit. I predict President Trump will abandon the existing “secure” communications architecture that has consumed trillions of dollars, and migrate the US Government to a commercially-based network where all communications public and private are protected. I further anticipate that NSA – which has no legislative charter – will be dismantled by Executive Order.
That's what I thought. The inchoate rantings of someone who is on the edge of a nervous breakdown, kept together by the glue of their fist-pounding rage. Oh wait you are talking about Steele, not JR.SonicG » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:06 pm wrote:It reads like gibberish...It's his fever dream, but no fucking way on this earth it is going to happen...Fuck. I would be better off trying to make sense of the real Bob Dobbs...
Yes, I remember when the fascists were like, actual fascists of the National Front, with baseball bats as opposed to these days Antifa fascists throwing sucker punches and running away.semper occultus » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:24 pm wrote:I'm into 70's nostalgia so enjoying seeing our cousins across the pond re-enacting our mid-decade political crisis where the sitting Prime Minister Harold Wilson was being smeared as a compromised Russian agent / puppet & MI5 was cooking up a coup d'etat along with a few Generals & Fleet Street newspaper editors...they even tapped up Lord Mountbatten to act as the figure head of a National Government...
...don't worry though they just went with Maggie Thatcher in the end..
Quite so, but I think the bigger point being made is that once you've got that lakefront second home that's large enough for five families and then some, you made a decision about what side you're on. Sure, billionaires have contempt for millionaires and Michael Moore isn't invited to Davos or Bilderberg. Doesn't change Moore's decision.Elvis » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:55 am wrote:Yeah. And not for the first time. I still say millionaires are a dime a dozen, "the elite" is more like, if you have to ask, you can't afford it.JackRiddler » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:30 pm wrote:You are both (elvis and brekin) writing about Moore without bothering to define or agree on common definitions of "elite," class, institutions, power, position, etc. Thus you are bound to talk past each other, with the advantage of being completely right, no matter what you say, even if you don't even know what you said. And you can be certain the other guy is wrong.
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