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Nordic » Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:34 pm wrote:RI has changed. A lot.

I'll use W.Rex's line about the 'depth of the ocean of stupid'... and the width and depth of the swamp of bullshit. Sandy Hook, Boston Marathon, Pizzagate... how can any 'investigator' sort through the dazzle and crap being thrown into the mix from all sides... sides with agendas... virtually none of them honorable. Being agnostic is a safe and wishy-washy place, but it's also a way to avoid promulgating toxic memes. Is the Ping-Pong shooter a crisis actor? Could be. Is the Ping-Pong shooter an unstable person whipped into a frenzy by a deluge of disinfo and confirmation bias which was built up over a few early suspicious seeds? Could be. Both presidential candidates are despicable, both the MSM and the fake-news sources are despicable, and 'investigating' this mess with any hope of arrests or justice being served is a mug's game. Have at it if your stomach is stronger than mine, I'll continue to peep through my fingers.

The story will still end in Chinatown.

norton ash » Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:12 pm wrote:The story will still end in Chinatown.

But not before more explosive details emerge.

Long time silent majority member agreeing: RI is far from and island. Change happens.

I lived in DC for years, still return often to see family. I've been to Comet and Besta and Politics and Prose more times than I could count. They're bussinesses. The idea that a successful business open to the public has a child torture dungeon in the basement isn't impossible, but my word does it make very little sense. Seems like the kind of theory people who've led lives completely divorced from actual power players develop. What the hell is the point of being rich and powerful if you've got to go to a damn pizza joint to kiddy diddle?

Shady ass emails? Check. Money laundering front restaurant? It's D.C. so no duh. Meeting place for elite cliques? Proven. Said cliques incestual money networks on display? Openly. But the idea that one could show up with a gun and save the children is intellectually developed either by or for people who are divorced from the actual reality of organized pedophilia.

Flatwoods » Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:19 pm wrote:What the hell is the point of being rich and powerful if you've got to go to a damn pizza joint to kiddy diddle?

Am I the only one who really hates these kinds of non-argument arguments based on second-guessing the motivations & strategies of the elite or sub-elite? This one isn't quite on a par with Luther's "If I had a kill room I sure wouldn't joke about it on Instragram," but it's close.

On the other hand, it does help illustrate the sort of thinking that is preventing people just looking at the evidence. So much easier just to rely on "common sense" and reasonable probabilities, right?!

I lived in Hampstead for several years. It would have been impossible for me to walk down Hampstead High Street and believe that the things claimed by those kids ever went on in those places of business. Impossible. But then, I listen to the claims, look at what little evidence there is, and cross-reference it with what I know about these sorts of operators and operations, and it becomes equally impossible for me to dismiss it. So, at the end of the day, do I go with my gut feeling that is screaming out that these things can't happen in almost-plain sight like that because that is just crazy? Or do I go where the evidence is pointing and say, "Maybe things really aren't how they look from the outside?"

Flatwoods » Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:19 pm wrote: But the idea that one could show up with a gun and save the children is intellectually developed either by or for people who are divorced from the actual reality of organized pedophilia.

100% separate argument & I don't why it got lumped in with the rest of the post; unless maybe it's based on the assumption that anyone researching Pizzagate is the kind of person who would pick up a gun and try to save the children? At this point, it wouldn't surprise me if someone tried to make that association here.

guruilla » Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:35 pm wrote:Am I the only one who really hates these kinds of non-argument arguments based on second-guessing the motivations & strategies of the elite or sub-elite?

Says the guy who uses a 4chan decoder ring to read Wikileaks.

barracuda » Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:07 pm wrote:

guruilla » Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:35 pm wrote:Am I the only one who really hates these kinds of non-argument arguments based on second-guessing the motivations & strategies of the elite or sub-elite?

Says the guy who uses a 4chan decoder ring to read Wikileaks.

Straw-man argument. Where's your quote?

where's the names of ANY victims?

not including the innocent victims terrorized by the guy with the gun

You're out of line assuming I'm trying to equate everyone reading about the topic to your typical "crazed gunman". I get the point you're trying to make about the climate here but from my perspective you're seriously stretching, and in a direction that's relatively insulting?

As to the bit about "why would you joke about a kill room": theres noting about actual abuse occurring at Comet integral to the narrative the people connected to Comet are shady. The best evidence implicates these people in their homes, at work, and abroad representing organizations. It serves as a great example of what I'm talking about when I say that the popular narrative is largely divorced from the actual behavior and aesthetics of the elite.

You've got all the context you need for a realistic conversation about organized pesophilia and the discussion defaults to sex dungeon pizzaria. Your comparison between our experiences out in the world betraying the facts is exactly what I meant to address by saying it's not not impossible. Possible and inherently uninteresting given the actual meat that's on this bone.

I'm perhaps poorly trying to imply that the narrative had been sculpted to fit the crazed gunman cartoon were all so used to. A large portion of the sculpting you're attempting to document in another thread. You know?

Belligerent Savant » 07 Dec 2016 05:50 wrote:.

guruilla: alleged "shooter" who is also an (alleged) actor with (alleged) military background and (alleged) time spent in Haiti shows up at Comet Ping Pong allegedly inspired by Alex Jones, etc, right after an alleged CCTV camera allegedly goes down, and the incident may or may not have been "reported" hours before allegedly occurring. Shots were probably not fired, no one was hurt, & the incident gets widespread coverage, the main thrust of which is, FAKE NEWS NUT-JOB: LOOK WHAT HAPPENS!!

Not long ago, this non-shooting incident would have inspired a healthy discussion at RI and been easily recognized as a strong confirmation of the validity of the information surfacing about "Pizzagate."

Indeed. A bit surreal when placed in the above context.

Bollocks.

In the past everything would have been fair game and anyone who posted crap that didn't stack up against reality would have had their stuff criticised and that stuff would have been dropped. There were a lot more critical thinkers here 10 years ago and that is what made this place work. Nothing was taken on face value. Look at the shit Hugh used to cop. Look at the never ending debates in the 9/11 section about CD vs non CD for the Twin Towers.

Does anyone know anything about the shooters' alleged dad, his relationship with his alleged church and various religious groups or the US military, law enforcement or former alleged president Ronald alleged reagan?

I thought not.



(allegedly edited to add an extra alleged in bold not fix a typo.)

BTW did anyone know I've donated money to the Clinton Foundation?

Shocking isn't it.

Belligerent Savant » 07 Dec 2016 02:51 wrote: Re: "pizzagate": although most/all information uncovered thus far remains within the boundaries of 'circumstantial', as slomo and others have indicated, there seems to be enough smoke to merit further digging in search of potential 'fire-causing' elements, which, to my understanding, is one of the primary drivers for participation in this forum -- to discuss these topics in an effort to sift through white noise/disinfo and glean a measure of insight, no?

Unless, of course, this forum's 'gravitational pull' has shifted more than previously alluded.

Despite the depictions of bonfires/pitchforks (in written word and also witty visuals), no one here has called for anything other than further examination (though I haven't reviewed each page of this thread in earnest -- I may have missed a call for a mob gathering. If so, disregard the above: shoot the messenger.)

These days trying to sift thru stuff means you support the Clintons and international child trafficking, at least according to some people on this thread.

So obviously the forum's gravitational pull has shifted, just not in the direction you think.

seemslikeadream » Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:19 pm wrote:where's the names of ANY victims?

not including the innocent victims terrorized by the guy with the gun

Good lord where were the names of Jimmy Saville's victims prior to his death? Where were the names of Bill Cosby's victims before that tidal wave began?

Is this really RI? Or did all f you get kidnapped and replaced with Pod people?

I remember when I first started lurking at RI and it seemed every other thread had to do with ritual child abuse and pedophile "elites" and all the respective coverups.

And now the loudest people here are mocking those who are trying to make sense out of a very smelly rabbit hole.

"Oh there are no dead children sprawled out on the ping pong tables so this is all bullshit".

Seriously? Only an idiot (perhaps like the guy with the gun who walked into CPP) would assume there was an active den of 24/7 child-diddling going on during business hours. Only an idiot would assume that people who perpetuate such acts would not obsessively cover their tracks.

Fact of the matter is that the Wikileaks leaks have shown that people aren't THAT careful when they're pretty sure nobody is eavesdropping.

Kind of like those cops in Santa Ana California who recently raided that pot dispensary. I'll try to find the video.

I don't think anybody here thinks that our sleuthing would result in convictions of anyone who ranks in the "top 50 most powerful people in DC". Has it ever? Is THAT why we do this? Of course not. It, so WHY THE STRAWMAN bullshit?

I'd say if you don't like this subject matter, stay out of the thread instead of trolling it. What are you afraid of?

Nordic wrote:

seemslikeadream » Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:19 pm wrote:where's the names of ANY victims?

not including the innocent victims terrorized by the guy with the gun

Good lord where were the names of Jimmy Saville's victims prior to his death? Where were the names of Bill Cosby's victims before that tidal wave began?

Is this really RI? Or did all f you get kidnapped and replaced with Pod people?

I remember when I first started lurking at RI and it seemed every other thread had to do with ritual child abuse and pedophile "elites" and all the respective coverups.

And now the loudest people here are mocking those who are trying to make sense out of a very smelly rabbit hole.

"Oh there are no dead children sprawled out on the ping pong tables so this is all bullshit".

Seriously? Only an idiot (perhaps like the guy with the gun who walked into CPP) would assume there was an active den of 24/7 child-diddling going on during business hours. Only an idiot would assume that people who perpetuate such acts would not obsessively cover their tracks.

Fact of the matter is that the Wikileaks leaks have shown that people aren't THAT careful when they're pretty sure nobody is eavesdropping.

Kind of like those cops in Santa Ana California who recently raided that pot dispensary. I'll try to find the video.

I don't think anybody here thinks that our sleuthing would result in convictions of anyone who ranks in the "top 50 most powerful people in DC". Has it ever? Is THAT why we do this? Of course not. It, so WHY THE STRAWMAN bullshit?

I'd say if you don't like this subject matter, stay out of the thread instead of trolling it. What are you afraid of?

Hallelujah, Amen.

I have the right to my opinion ...like everyone else here

get a name of ONE victim just one

Nordic goes after my sources all the time....

deal with it