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Postby elfismiles » Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:05 pm

FBI To Train 30,000 Officers For Active Shooter Situations At Stadiums, Businesses, Schools
10:02 PM 12/22/2014
Chuck Ross

The FBI will hold active shooter training drills at sports stadiums as part of a massive program to prepare for what the agency says is a growing concern for law enforcement.

Thirty thousand agents will take part in the training sessions, which will also help prepare officers for active-shooter situations at businesses, schools and public places, according to the USA Today.

The FBI began developing the project after the 2012 mass shooting in Newtown, Conn., according to FBI deputy director Mark Giuliano.

Giuliano told USA Today that 200 FBI agents will help conduct the two-day training sessions, which will be held all around the U.S. and in Puerto Rico, making it the agency’s largest such effort.

With a completion date only 18 months down the road, newly-minted trainees are being thrust into instructor roles soon after completing their sessions.

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Postby elfismiles » Tue Mar 17, 2015 8:39 am

School Shooter Drills and the Perpetuation of Violence
Published On March 16, 2015 | By Joshua H | Articles
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Last week I read an article from my hometown news source which announced that during spring break, several local agencies would converge on the local junior high for preparedness drills. The exercise is supposed to cover a number of emergencies. The focus, of course, is on school shooters.

"In what officials are calling one of the largest and most unique emergency drills ever staged by Jasper County agencies, an active shooter and mass casualty drill will take place March 18 at the Berg elementary and middle-school complex in Newton.

From shortly before noon until about 4 p.m., medical, fire and law enforcement will converge on the complex for a drill scenario that involves at least one active shooter on the campus. March 18 is the Wednesday of the Newton Community School District’s spring break.”


Given the great success of police agencies in stopping these incidences, I am sure the drills are completely unnecessary. That was sarcasm. I use it when the truth makes me feel icky inside. The truth is that displays such as these help to create the fear, distrust and divisive ideologies which themselves lead to psychologies of deviant violence. And in turn, those lead to the sort of alienation, marginalization and disempowerment that causes individuals to go overboard and shoot up buildings full of other victims of the state.

I have little confidence that these drills are necessary or helpful, yet I have a firm suspicion that they add to an overall culture which creates both criminal and institutional violence. Drills like these are useful in training instinctive reflexes into officers. Reflexes that often become deadly when officers are unable to separate the automated behaviors they are trained to have with real life situations that require finesse and human guile. At the same time, I doubt local police agencies are making federal grant cash by holding training exercises which hone finesse or human guile.

Let me tell you a bit about Newton, Iowa, the town this is happening in and the town that I grew up in. In the early nineteen nineties it’s greatest employer was Maytag Appliances. The employees were some of the best paid union workers in the nation. There was prosperity and growth, but lurking beneath this was a nasty methamphetamine culture. Newton was affected by this narcotic especially hard, at one time making the top ten ‘meth use per capita’ in the entire country. The police responded with greater numbers and resources as well as new training and a different attitude. Yet it was not enough. As Maytag began shipping jobs away, the unemployment rate rose and so did meth use. When the company finally left over a decade ago, Newton became an economic ghost town. It’s problems continue to this day.

Newton is not unlike most midwest towns. Its social, economic and political structures revolve around a very small core. Yet there was always something different about the place. My junior year in high school we received our first full-time in-school police officer. While this may not have seemed out of place in a larger city, Newton was twenty five thousand people. There were no gangs and Columbine had yet to kick off the modern school shooting phase. Me and my friends knew right away why there was a cop in our school. Intimidation. If you think that a town like Newton would have a Mayberry-style law enforcement agency that was above participating in the social engineering of youth, let me just point out that the City Police have in their possession a monster truck with their’s and a D.A.R.E. logo painted on it.

While it may not be Mayberry, Newton is not a violent place. The necessity of preparing for violence that will likely never come does not exist. Large scale displays of police force and capabilities are nothing more than social conditioning for the embittered and hopeless citizens. While Newton has earned the nickname Meth & Maytag, it was not just these disasters that led to the towns fall from grace. Like many other towns it has eroded from within under the sort of ideological conditions which gave rise to addictions. Both to methamphetamines and federal policing grants alike. A place without hope, where fear treads heavily in boots, is a sitting duck for overbearing law enforcement and violent crimes alike. Today it is just a drill, yet under such conditions it likely to become an eventuality.

By the way, the town is Newton, not Newtown; where a few years back they held a similar drill.

What do you think, Cop Blockers? Are these drills just good honest practice or a part of the larger problem?

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Postby MacCruiskeen » Tue Dec 01, 2015 6:01 pm

Kenyan university fails to warn of realistic terrorism drill, causing panic and death

By Yanan Wang December 1 at 6:32 AM

When gunshots rang out through Strathmore University in Nairobi Monday, students believed they were under siege. They thought immediately of Garissa, another Kenyan university, where a terrorist attack left 148 dead in April.

No voice appeared over the intercom to say, “This is a drill” — even though that’s exactly what it was.

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Paramedics assist a woman injured during a security exercise at Strathmore University in Kenya’s capital Nairobi on November 30, 2015. (Thomas Mukoya/Reuters)

Instead, students and staff at the school frantically tried to escape. They waded through the neighboring Mbagathi River, climbed out of windows and hovered over perches on the side of the university building, looking for a way out. Esther Kindambi, a 33-year-old employee, jumped from the third floor and died.

Some 30 additional people were injured, police officials said during a press conference Tuesday morning.

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Re: Active Shooter Drills Thread

Postby elfismiles » Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:50 am

Active Shooter Drills Thread

I think I'm going to ask the Wombat to change the name of this thread to Active Shooter Drills Thread as it can perhaps better serve as repository of such events which obviously can traumatize participants, even when they know it is going to occur, as the case below points out.

Thanks to MinM for this one...

MinM » 08 Dec 2015 15:19 wrote:
Image@BostonGlobe: They knew it was only a security exercise, but even then the employees were terrified http://bos.gl/3ROnZ0w
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It was only a security exercise, and employees at Cambridge Hospital knew it. But even then, it was terrifying when a police officer posing as a gunman burst in and started shooting blanks. An administrative assistant was shaking so badly she could barely dial 911. Workers who had locked themselves inside a ward refused to let police in, even after they slid their business cards under the door to prove who they were.

As mass shootings continue to traumatize the country, more employers are putting security measures in place to prevent or minimize bloodshed.
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Postby backtoiam » Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:26 am

This is what I mentioned earlier when I talked about the school drills. 30,000 drill officers hired. Regardless of how accurate that figure is these people are not playing around. Those people need a paycheck and will do as they are told.

A couple of years ago I would have felt like an alarmist for saying this but yall pay attention especially if you are young and have a family. There is massive preparation being done and the sophistication and tempo of the preparation is quickening.

The preps have been being applied for a long time but this situation has gotten to a stage that it is becoming very hard to hide from the public and I suspect that is why the tempo has quickened and gotten so obviously sloppy.

I used to think the police force would not act in mass against the people but I am starting to doubt that. Their training is so different these days that they will kill you in a heartbeat.

There is one thing that I have learned and it is that this machine does not acquire and distribute the massive amount of hardware equipment and personnel without the intentions of needing it. The amount of military hardware and vehicles that has been distributed into the municipal police forces is substantial.

My senses tell me that this will be a combination of long term mission creep and very possibly some type of big event combined with it maybe in the future and as a precipitating event. These people are not playing and I mean that.

In the future there may be a precipitating factor to shove an edge move such as an extended power outage or major "terror" event or banking failure, etc....

The "migrants are coming" meme is being pushed much harder and that is the plausible deniability part of this equation.

I don't know exactly what will happen or what the time frame is but this is a signal. This situation, whatever it is, is more than simply sliding lucrative big money contracts to political cronies in the big mil intel game of theft.

We will just have to watch and see but the preps are on the table. It is starting to appear as if they plan for a large number of people in this country to be in a major amount of stress because they are putting the framework in place to deal with just such a scenario.

The crazy signal is increasing. I am not forecasting doom but this whole situation is such an undeniable pattern that it bares watching. I had hoped that 911 was all they thought they needed but I am starting to wonder.

I have no idea why I keep thinking this but for some reason the city of Chicago keeps crossing my mind for the last couple of years, which means nothing at all, but its been on my mind.

Hopefully this situation will just be a long slow lock down but the amount of serious hardware and personnel that are being put into this situation makes me wonder. Amtrak train system and you name it, any way to travel, is being focused on.

I hope I am wrong but the signals keep increasing.
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Postby Nordic » Wed Dec 09, 2015 3:42 am

I never used to think that, but I'm starting to think this. ^^^^

The obviously staged San Bernadino thing, even elements of the Paris one, the medias bullshit reaction to each.

The SB media reaction is especially telling. A front page op-Ed in the NYT for maybe the 2nd time in its history, then Obama's direct address immediately thereafter, like he's declaring war or something, even the tabloids going off on the NRA and suddenly "gun control" seems like it's moved into The Overton Window, then the obvious conditioning were getting to horrific police violence, seemingly half the people online always talking about how "well those people wouldn't get shot if they just did what the police said" or "the police half to defend themselves". It just goes on and on.

This coinciding with the US just trying SO HARD to start WW3, first in Ukraine and now in Syria, and having its ass handed to it both times, the cat-out-of-the-bag with regards to the US actually creating and arming and funding ISIS, it all seems to be heading toward some kind of Perfect Shitstorm.

I'm actually starting to get worried about the safety of US citizens in general -- it seems that a grab is being made for totalitarianism. Whether it succeeds or fails, it's gonna be real ugly.
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Re: Active Shooter Drills Thread

Postby elfismiles » Thu Dec 10, 2015 10:02 am

Grizzly » 09 Dec 2015 23:45 wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdkBFRPTFhI

Plain Clothed Military Conducting Unannounced Exercise Prompts Lock Down At Elementary Schools
Deputies released a surveillance video and issued a bulletin of the three men who showed up at White Oak Elementary in Cape Carteret and Bogue Sound Elementary, several miles east on Highway 24 in Ocean, asking questions about whether the schools were designated as crisis evacuation centers.
The three showed school officials what appeared to be military IDs, but were asked to leave the schools, and while deputies, who were alerted by school officials, were initially told there was no military personnel conducting any exercises in the area, they learned several hours later the three were members of the Army 83rd Civil Affairs Group from Fort Bragg and were conducting information gathering. But they weren’t authorized to visit schools, according to a letter to county officials from their commanding officer, Lt. Col. Samuel Simpson II, who assured the county it would not happen again.
The incident has prompted a critique of security procedures at county schools, and alarmed parents, many of whom kept their children home from school on Thursday.


http://www.carolinacoastonline.com/news ... mment-area

http://wnct.com/2015/12/02/suspicious-m ... um=twitter

Sheriff's Office seeks trio that entered elementary schools
https://www.facebook.com/CarteretNewsTi ... nref=story

I can't access the FB link, cause I don't have a fuckfacebook account...

But, WTF? No, really? WTF!!???

P.S., WHEN DID FB become an news presenter/aggregator , but only if your in the club.


Elvis » 09 Dec 2015 23:56 wrote:It sounds like the three men were not from the local base. Here's another report from Dec. 3.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdOXXo4crQs



MacCruiskeen » 09 Dec 2015 23:58 wrote:Grizzly, here's a link to the Facespook page. (You don't have to be registered to access it):

https://www.facebook.com/CarteretNewsTi ... nref=story
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Postby elfismiles » Thu Dec 10, 2015 10:04 am

This is SO many kinds of totally fucked-up. :wallhead:

Mock mass shooting changes location after warnings from UT
6:32 p.m. Wednesday, Dec. 9, 2015 | Filed in: News

6: 30 p.m. update: After University of Texas officials said a gun rights demonstration planned for this weekend could be considered criminal trespass, the organizers said the demonstration would likely be staged on Guadalupe Street, adjacent to campus.

“We will move forward with the event on the adjacent public land using UT as the backdrop,” said Murdoch Pizgatti, a founder of the gun rights groups Come and Take It Texas and DontComply.com.

4:10 p.m. update: A University of Texas spokesman says the planned mock mass shooting demonstration this weekend would be considered criminal trespass if participants do not leave when asked.

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American-Statesman file photo: Matthew Short of Victoria, public relations director with Come and Take It Texas and DontComply.com, and president of both groups, Murdoch Pizgatti of Plano, pose with weapons outside the Bastrop Police Department last summer.

“Within the university community, the campus is a place for the vigorous exchange of diverse viewpoints, which is an essential part of the educational experience,” said spokesman J.B. Bird. “The property or buildings owned or controlled by UT Austin are not, however, open to outside groups for assembly, speech, or other activities, including theatrical performances, as are the public streets, sidewalks, and parks. Only the university itself, faculty, staff and student groups may engage in such activities on campus. This applies equally to an outside protest group, an outside theater troupe, or any outside group wishing to use the facilities or grounds of the university.”

Earlier: Gun rights groups say they will conduct a mock mass shooting this weekend at the University of Texas campus as they try to end gun-free zones.

The Open Carry Walk and Crisis Performance Event will involve actors “shot” by perpetrators armed with cardboard weapons, said Matthew Short, a spokesman for the gun rights groups Come and Take It Texas and DontComply.com.

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Gun rights activists voice their opinion in a rally held by anti-carry gun protestors as they gathered on the West Mall of the University of Texas campus to oppose a new state law that expands the rights of concealed handgun license holders to carry their weapons on public college campuses. Starting August 1, 2016, permitted gun holders can carry in campus buildings although schools can however designate limited gun-free zones.

“It’s a fake mass shooting, and we’ll use fake blood,” he said. He said gun noises will be blared from bullhorns. Other people will then play the role of rescuers, also armed with cardboard weapons.

He said the group was not seeking any sort of permit for the event from Austin or UT. University officials were not immediately available for comment, but in November, university President Gregory L. Fenves spoke in favor of a faculty resolution opposing campus-carry.

Gun rights advocates have argued that allowing people to bring their concealed weapon into campus facilities could promote safety.

“Criminals that want to do evil things and commit murder go places where people are not going to be able to stop them,” Short said. “When seconds count, the cops are minutes away.”

Asked if he was worried the demonstration, which will be preceded by a walk through Austin with loaded weapons might appear in bad taste following the mass shootings in San Bernardino and Paris, Short said: “Not at all. People were able to be murdered people because no one was armed.”

People with a concealed handgun permit may carry their gun in some places on campus, such as sidewalks and parking lots. The new campus carry law, which goes into effect in August, will allow people with concealed weapons permits to carry their handguns into dorms, classrooms and other public university buildings, though universities may draft some campus-specific rules that may include limited gun-free zones.

UT history professor Joan Neuberger, who helps lead Gun Free UT, an organization supported by thousands of UT students and faculty that aims to keep guns out of the UT campus, said that putting on such an event is an act of intimidation.

“Staging a mass shooting during an anxious time for students — finals week — not only breaks rules but shows real disrespect for the feelings of students, faculty and staff who don’t want to have guns around them in the first place, but will be forced to put up with guns in public places in 2016,” Neuberger said.

Critics of the law have urged UT to take a highly restrictive approach, prompting the pushback from gun rights groups.

“We want criminals to fear the public being armed,” Short said. “An armed society is a polite society.”

“We love freedom and we’re trying to make more freedom,” he said.


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Postby elfismiles » Thu Dec 10, 2015 10:13 am

UT-Austin: Fake Mass Shooting Not Welcome on Campus
by Luqman Adeniyi and Madlin Mekelburg
Dec. 9, 2015

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“Come and Take It San Antonio!” gun rights rally at The Alamo, San Antonio, Oct. 19, 2013.

Editor's note: This story has been updated with comment from the University of Texas at Austin.

A Texas gun rights group plans to hold a fake mass shooting demonstration Saturday near the University of Texas at Austin to protest gun-free zones. The group had planned to hold the event on campus but decided to move it just off campus after the university warned that demonstrators could face criminal trespassing charges.

The event planned by Come And Take It Texas will feature members of the organization acting out a mass shooting with cardboard guns, fake blood and fake sounds of gun shots, according to a spokesman for the group, which is also known as DontComply.com.

Come and Take It Texas created what it is calling the "Open Carry Walk and Crisis Performance" event because of renewed discussions by politicians and the media about cracking down on gun rights, according to the group's spokesman, Matthew Short. The planned event was first reported by the Austin American-Statesman.

“We want to bring light to the fact that people are dying because we outlaw guns,” Short said. “We are going to do it as a visual demonstration so that people can get an understanding of what might actually happen in this situation.”

The event violates UT System Board of Regents' rules that prohibit outside groups from assembling on campus, the university said in a statement Wednesday.

"Many groups seek to use the university’s facilities each year and they are all treated equally and are turned away," UT-Austin spokesman J.B. Bird said in the statement. "For example, we have not allowed the Westboro Baptist Church to protest on campus and have not allowed labor groups to protest on campus."

In response to UT's statement, Short said his group will continue with the demonstration but will move it slightly.

"It probably will change our plans as far as pushing us 20 feet from where we were going to be standing, but UT is still our backdrop," Short said. "We figured this might come up."

Texas lawmakers passed a campus carry law earlier this year that will require all public universities to allow concealed handguns on campus, though they may create gun-free zones. Private universities can opt out of the law, which goes into effect in August.

UT-Austin has not yet decided whether to create gun-free zones. Short said his group does not want any such zones, which it calls “victim-killing zones." Supporters of gun-free zones – including a group called Gun Free UT — say they want to keep guns out of classrooms, where they say students and teachers are especially vulnerable.

Gun Free UT did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Saturday's event.

Come and Take It has led many demonstrations across Texas to promote gun rights, including events at the Texas Capitol and the Alamo.

“When seconds count, cops are minutes away," Short said. "People need to have the right to protect themselves.”

Disclosure: The University of Texas at Austin is a corporate sponsor of The Texas Tribune. A complete list of Tribune donors and sponsors can be viewed here.

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Postby elfismiles » Thu Dec 10, 2015 10:17 am

Passions run high as UT, other schools plan limited gun-free zones
Posted: 5:28 p.m. Thursday, Oct. 1, 2015
By Ralph K.M. Haurwitz - American-Statesman Staff

As a retired admiral and Navy SEAL who directed the raid that killed Osama bin Laden, Bill McRaven appreciates guns. But he doesn’t think carrying them into buildings on college campuses is going to increase safety.

McRaven, chancellor of the 14-campus University of Texas System, lost that debate when the GOP-dominated state Legislature voted overwhelmingly earlier this year to expand the rights of people who have licenses to carry concealed handguns.

+Passions run high as UT, other schools plan limited gun-free zones photo
Ralph Barrera

Ed Scruggs, upper left, voices his support of no guns on campus in a rally Thursday afternoon October 1, 2015. Protestors ... read more
http://www.mystatesman.com/news/news/st ... al-8222082


Now McRaven and other leaders of the state’s public institutions of higher learning — including universities, health-related institutions and community colleges — are trying to figure out how to implement the new law. And as they engage in required consultation with students, faculty members and staff members before writing campus-specific rules, it’s clear that the passage of Senate Bill 11 did not defuse a highly charged issue.

A rally against the law Thursday on the West Mall of the Austin campus was disrupted by two counter-protesters who were arrested after they refused to leave, according to a campus spokeswoman. More than 150 faculty members have pledged to prohibit guns in their classrooms, regardless of what rules emerge. And at a forum that drew about 250 people Wednesday evening to UT’s Texas Union, speaker after speaker argued passionately for one side or another of the issue.

Holders of concealed handgun licensees have been allowed to carry weapons on the grounds of public institutions of higher learning since 1995. The new law allows them to carry in campus buildings.

+Passions run high as UT, other schools plan limited gun-free zones photo
Jay Janner

People opposed to campus carry wear t-shirts with the slogan “Armed With Reason” at a public forum at UT on Wednesday ... read more
http://www.mystatesman.com/news/news/st ... al-8222080


But there’s a catch: Schools can write “reasonable rules” in light of “the nature of the student population, specific safety considerations, and the uniqueness of the campus environment.”

And there’s a catch to the catch: The rules may not “generally prohibit or have the effect of generally prohibiting license holders from carrying concealed handguns on the campus.”

In other words, schools can establish gun-free zones, but they must be limited.


+Passions run high as UT, other schools plan limited gun-free zones photo
Ralph Barrera

This pro-carry gun supporter was asked to leave the reserved designated protest area of anti-carry gun protestors as they gathered on ... read more
http://www.mystatesman.com/news/news/st ... al-8222081


The upshot is that schools might well wind up permitting guns in most classrooms and offices. And the law specifically allows for rules regarding the storage of handguns in campus dormitories.

“Our guiding principles are that we will follow the law, we will make our campuses as safe as we possibly can and we will try to keep angst as low as possible so people can focus on study, research and work on campus,” said David Daniel, the UT System’s deputy chancellor, who is leading weekly conference calls involving campus representatives.

Daniel said officials hope to reach a consensus in the next few weeks on campus “exclusion zones,” which might include child-care centers, hospitals, schools on university grounds for kindergarten up to 12th grade and laboratories with potentially dangerous chemical or biological materials. “We have not gotten to dormitories or residence halls yet, but that’s on our list of issues to talk about, including how weapons would be stored,” he said.


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Campus-level “working panels” are proceeding on a parallel track to gather information and opinions to make recommendations. Steve Goode, a law professor who chairs the UT-Austin panel, said more than 2,500 comments have been submitted online. “The overwhelming majority of comments we have received oppose Senate Bill 11,” he said.

Texas is among eight states that allow some form of campus carry, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. Nineteen states ban concealed carry on campus, and 23 states do not have a policy or leave it to the discretion of colleges or governing boards.

“It has not turned out to be a major issue” at the University of Utah, Colorado State University and a number of other campuses with concealed carry that the working panel has studied, Goode said.


•Campus carry law draws jeers, cheers at UT forum
http://www.mystatesman.com/news/news/st ... mpu/nnrjP/

•Commentary: Campus carry wrong for UT faculty, students
http://www.mystatesman.com/news/news/op ... ude/nnqxh/

•Concession on campus guns, open carry agreement reached
http://www.mystatesman.com/news/news/se ... ill/nmQW7/


Weapons are nevertheless a matter of intense debate at colleges in particular and in the nation generally. That’s not likely to subside anytime soon, especially in light of a 20-year-old man’s shooting spree Thursday that left numerous people dead and injured at a community college in Oregon.

The issue has special resonance at UT-Austin, in part because of its history. The new law takes effect Aug. 1, 2016, exactly 50 years after Charles Whitman opened fire from 230 feet up on the UT Tower in a rampage that ultimately took 16 lives, including those of his mother and wife, whom he stabbed to death.

The law goes into effect Aug. 1, 2017, for community colleges. Although it also applies to private colleges, they can opt out altogether.

Critics echo many of the concerns that McRaven cited during the legislative session, among them that the presence of handguns — even though limited to people at least 21 years old who have passed a background check, taken a class and passed a shooting test, and to military members or veterans under 21 — will lead to an increase in shootings, including accidental and self-inflicted wounds.

Joan Neuberger, a history professor, helped organize a group called Gun Free UT and is contemplating some sort of civil disobedience.

“I’m totally opposed to guns on campus at all,” Neuberger said. “I think it’s very dangerous to have guns in classrooms in particular” because emotions often run high as students debate each other on all manner of issues.

“I’ve pledged to prohibit guns in my classroom, but I haven’t decided what that means for me,”she said. “I’m really hoping President (Gregory L. ) Fenves will exclude guns from classrooms so it won’t become an issue.”

Supporters of the law argue that concealed handguns will go largely unnoticed as they are in many grocery stores, houses of worship and other places where they are permitted.

“We are not vigilantes,” said Justin Stone, a first-year law student. “We are not a danger to this campus. We are not bad guys you read about in the news. CHL holders have proven to be trustworthy with a firearm.”

Texas State University and Texas A&M University aren’t as far along as UT in planning for the new law. Both schools have formed advisory panels but have not scheduled campus forums.

A&M President Michael Young was president at the University of Utah in 2006 when, in a case he inherited from the previous administration, the Utah Supreme Court ruled that the school had no authority to ban guns, which it had done for many years.

Some people feel safer if they have access to a weapon, while other people find their presence disconcerting, Young said. He declined to speculate on how A&M’s rules might look, adding: “We’ll do all we can to make everybody feel as comfortable as they can knowing all sides will have to compromise at certain levels.”


What’s next for campus carry

UT-Austin holds a second public forum at 3 p.m. Monday at the Texas Union at the southeast corner of Guadalupe and 24th streets.

Campus working group recommends policies to President Gregory L. Fenves by late November.

Fenves and other UT System presidents submit rules to Board of Regents by the end of this semester or the beginning of 2016.

Regents adopt or amend rules, allowing a few months for campuses to buy signs and install gun-storage lockers.

Expanded campus carry takes effect Aug. 1, 2016, except at community colleges, which get an extra year.

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Postby elfismiles » Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:31 pm

Texas gun-rights activists, students face off in Austin (VIDEO)
Alexandra Samuels, Special for USA TODAY 6:47 p.m. EST December 12, 2015
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015 ... /77201846/

Mock mass shooting near UT met by dozens of counter-protesters (VIDEO)
By Amanda Brandeis
Published: December 12, 2015, 6:42 pm | Updated: December 13, 2015, 1:30 pm
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Postby backtoiam » Mon Dec 14, 2015 5:07 pm

This is just a short snip. Its absolutely full of links so you need to click through to read it. But after looking at the sheer scope of this situation all I can think of to say is... speechless.....

http://massprivatei.blogspot.com/2015/1 ... e-now.html

Hospitals and private companies are conducting mass shooter drills with police
image credit: Orange County Register

Private companies in Massachusetts like the Cambridge Health Alliance, which operates three hospitals in the Boston area recently staged elaborate mass shooter drills. Others, like the Cranston, R.I., manufacturing firm Taco Inc., put their employees through classroom training to identify exits, hiding places, and methods of fighting back.

"Most hospitals now regularly hold active shooter drills."

The circle of fear is nearly complete; schools, colleges, sports stadiums, malls, hospitals and large companies are staging mass-shooter drills across the country. From California to Maine, Hawaii and Alaska mass shooter drills are taking place across the country. Mass shooter drills are even taking place in Puerto Rico.

In Sept. of this I warned everyone how DHS/Police will be using a 'crystal ball' to identify future school shooters.

Future policing and incarceration is becoming a reality, a B.S. study called "Profiling School Shooters: Automatic Text-Based Analysis" alleges DHS, teachers and psychologists can identify future school shooters based entirely on a students writings! The study was conducted with the Department of Education (DOE)!
In June of this year, I warned everyone that police use the mass-media to manipulate public into allowing mass shooter drills in schools.

"We used this to test fire, EMS, law enforcement, Emergency management, and how the media is going to deal with that also how we are going to get that information out to them, said Sgt. Andrew Hobbs."

We're using kids as targets to see how the media will deal with it? Are you kidding me? There it is in black & white, the media is complicit in enabling the American police state. The mass media has the power to galvanize the public and put a stop to this, but they remain silent, why?

Sensing a chance to profit from putting more people behind bars and increasing state and local budgets, District Attorney's (DA) are offering "free violence prevention training for companies, schools, and government agencies."

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Re: Active Shooter Drills Thread

Postby elfismiles » Tue Dec 15, 2015 1:24 pm

backtoiam » 15 Dec 2015 15:06 wrote:<snip>
About a year ago, employees of San Bernardino County's Environmental Health Services division underwent an "active-shooter training."

It was held at the Inland Regional Center in San Bernardino -- in the very same room that would one day be a site of bloodshed and horror.

It was not clear if gunman Syed Rizwan Farook, an environmental health specialist for the county, attended the earlier training, but some of the victims of Wednesday's mass shooting were likely to have participated, said a county spokeswoman.


Staff members within Farook's division will return to work next week, but other county departments reopened Monday.
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Postby elfismiles » Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:34 am

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Waiting To Die Is NOT An Option!



Active-shooter training for office workers used to be about hiding. Not anymore.
Students at the University of Toledo learn to confront an active shooter and master other survival techniques during a session by the ALICE Training Institute. (University of Toledo Police Dept.)
By Michael S. Rosenwald December 20 at 12:00 PM
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A day after the terrorist attack in San Bernardino, Calif., left 14 people dead, Temony McNeil was on the floor of his Washington office, pinned down by co-workers.

At 6 feet and 240 pounds, McNeil is no pushover. But when colleagues being trained to take down an active shooter got control of his neck — he’d need Advil afterward — the senior accounting manager found himself unable to go anywhere.

“They had me down,” he said.

McNeil, 39, had been tapped to impersonate an active shooter in the role-playing exercise. With guidance from a former SWAT team officer, his co-workers at NeighborWorks America, an affordable-housing group based in the District, were rehearsing their response — going after their predator, not cowering behind a desk or hiding in the corner.

From Silicon Valley tech companies to Northern Virginia credit unions, this new approach to the threat of active shooters is gaining ground.
Students at the University of Toledo are taught how to swarm and disrupt a gunman during a training session by the ALICE Training Institute. (N/A/University of Toledo Police Dept.)

Spooked by a year of high-profile rampages, hundreds of companies and organizations like NeighborWorks are racing to train their workers how to react to a shooter in their workplaces. And after decades of telling employees to lock down and shelter in place, they are teaching them to fight back if evacuating is not an option.

The idea: Work as a team to disrupt and confuse shooters, opening up a split second to take them down.

The paradigm shift in response — from passive to active — has been endorsed and promoted by the Department of Homeland Security. Last month, it recommended that federal workplaces adopt the training program “Run, Hide, Fight,” which it helped develop. D.C. Police Chief Cathy L. Lanier used the same phrase on a recent episode of “60 Minutes.”

“Your options are run, hide or fight,” Lanier said last month. “I always say, if you can get out, getting out’s your first option, your best option. If you’re in a position to try and take the gunman down, to take the gunman out, it’s the best option for saving lives before police can get there.”

Gun rights proponents have a much different view of what works. They say that if more law-abiding citizens were armed, more mass shootings could be prevented. But most employers ban guns from the workplace, even in states that embrace concealed-carry permits.

At NeighborWorks, almost three dozen employees were taught to throw things at a shooter — chairs, books, purses, pens, phones, anything — and swarm. Those items don’t seem all that threatening compared with an AR-15, but that’s not the point.

“If you can move him from offense to defense, you have changed the outcome of the event,” said Greg Crane, a former SWAT officer whose company, the ALICE Training Institute, trained workers at NeighborWorks as well as at Facebook and Apple. “He’s thinking about what you are doing to him, not what he’s doing to you. Mentally, he’s going through a whole different process.”
University of Toledo students quickly build a barricade during an active shooter training session. (N/A/University of Toledo Police Dept.)

ALICE, based near Cleveland, has been teaching these methods since about 2001. But in the past few years, as mass shootings have killed moviegoers, congressional constituents, first-graders, Navy Yard workers, TV journalists and college students, hundreds of competitors have sprung up, charging thousands of dollars for classroom lectures and intense simulations.

[The haunting link between two mass shootings]

Some, like the Crisis Consultant Group in Richmond, are run by Iraq War veterans. Others, including K17 Security in Rockville, Md., are run by current or former police officers. They buy Google ads connected to “active shooter training” searches and have a lively presence on social media, offering instant updates on mass shootings and advice on what to do.

After each active shooter event, demand for training spikes. ALICE executives said they received hundreds of requests for new training or refresher courses for previous clients after the San Bernardino shooting. The company held a two-day training session this month at Northwest Federal Credit Union, which serves CIA employees.

K17 Security has had a flood of new business, too. Scott Zimmerman, a police officer who runs the company, said security spending tends to be reactive.

“The worst thing in the world happens, and that’s when we’re busier than ever,” Zimmerman said. “We’ve had more requests for this kind of training over the last year-and-a-half than I can ever remember.”

[The math of mass shootings]

For many people, the idea of confronting a mass shooter is new and totally startling. But Lanier and security professionals say they are pushing that response for a couple of reasons. For one, it works. An FBI study of active shooter events from 2000 to 2013 found that 13 percent of the incidents were stopped “after unarmed citizens safely and successfully restrained the shooter.” The other reason: With most shooting rampages ending before police arrive, what other option is there?

“If you’re passive in the face of extreme violence,” Crane said, “you’re going to get hurt.”

The training companies aren’t teaching fighting as the centerpiece of an active shooter response. Getting out — not locking down — is the first option. (Many of the students killed at Columbine High School in 1999 were hiding in the library.)

Barricading in a room is another option. ALICE and others show workers how to stack chairs, desks and other office items in front of doors, and then use belts and computer cords to secure hinges and doorknobs.

But in many cases, those options won’t work, and battling back becomes the last best hope. To convince workers that’s their best option, Zimmerman runs a simulation with a shooter entering a room and workers instructed to respond the way their brain is essentially programmed — to hide from danger, ducking behind desks or tables.

“How did that feel?” Zimmerman asks. “Was that fun?”

The answer is usually no.

“Everyone thinks it’s awful and miserable. And it is,” he said. “They are just sitting ducks. They are just sitting there hoping the guy shoots someone else.”

To build up the confidence to go after a killer, the trainers offer historical examples of when it has worked.

Just this summer, three unarmed friends on a train headed for Paris tackled a suspected Islamist militant about to attack hundreds of passengers with guns. The shooting of then-Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) in 2011 was stopped by unarmed citizens, including a 74-year-old man and a 61-year-old woman.

One of Crane’s favorite examples is Jacob Ryker, who in 1998, on his 17th birthday, tackled a gunman at his Oregon high school — after being shot in the lung. Afterward, his mother said, “He knew he had to tackle the guy or other people would be killed.”

That didn’t happen at Virginia Tech, where Seung Hui Cho killed 32 students and teachers on campus in 2007. He stopped to reload his guns more than a dozen times.

“He wasn’t impeded in any way,” Crane said. “His victims were uninformed. That’s not their fault. We let this protocol of lockdown become a national standard.”

At NeighborWorks, employees were relieved and even excited to learn different options. The information was revelatory in ways big and small — for instance, to make sure police don’t mistake you for the gunman, get away from the gun or put it in the trash.

“I think people were really energized about taking an affirmative, offensive approach to these situations as opposed to just hiding behind a chair or something,” said McNeil, the employee who was subdued.

Tayna Frett, a senior vice president at NeighborWorks overseeing facilities, helped set up the training. The message to evacuate — not just hunker down — was so jolting that she made a point to tell her husband afterward. She felt empowered watching her co-workers control McNeil.

“They used a lot of women,” she said. “It wasn’t how big you are. It’s about the technique and using multiple people to gain control.” As she watched, she was thinking, “I can do that. I can take someone down.”

Zimmerman, with K17 Security, hopes the shift in training will itself become a deterrent. Right now, shooters know they are likely to face little resistance.

“These guys want to be famous, to be known for what they did,” he said. “If four women take him down, and that’s the news, that’s embarrassing.”

Fighting back changes the narrative.

“They’re expecting everyone to hide under a table,” he said. “That’s what they’re expecting.”

Until a book hits them in the face.

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Re: Active Shooter Drills Thread

Postby mentalgongfu2 » Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:05 am

Didn't realize ALICE training and active-shooter scenarios was a new idea to so many. All the school districts I used to cover as a reporter in eastern Iowa have had this in place for several years now. And my position reporting on government and criminal courts in a small town caused me to spend a bit of time thinking about how I would respond if a gunman appeared in the office or council chambers.
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