Active Shooter San Bernardino

[Elvis]

This is a mindfuck. Yes there are oddities but I'm not really seeing the 'white gentlemen' behind the curtain; what am I missing?

I need the Dummies' version.

[justdrew]

the guy was identified early on by the sound of his voice

Where did you see that? The NY Times puff piece on the survivors said that the assailants never spoke.

"Witnesses said they recognized Farook as one of the shooters by his voice and build..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_San_Bernardino_shooting
#21. ^ Dean Hopkins, Christopher; Wagner, Laura (December 3, 2015). "Police Identify Suspects Killed After Deadly San Bernardino Shooting". [url=/wiki/NPR]NPR[/url]. Retrieved December 3, 2015.

But says who? Have we actually seen a credible witness say this? Or was this fed to us by the police?

the line is attributed to "a source"

[Nordic]

Just found this over at Reddit/conspiracy.

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/com ... ecordings/

First Responder Radio recordings.

Link (supposedly, I can't check it myself right now):

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/com ... es/cxo2pwb


One comment:

So far I've heard:

there were three shooters and two escaped in a black Yukon

a witness saw a man in black clothes/camo trying to exit the main building through a locked glass door but couldn't so retreated back inside somewhere.

there was a suspicious device in a building

two men were seen by nearby workers removing black clothing on the Hunt Lane bridge / overpass

I'm only up to recording number 10.

Might be good to grab any transcripts of this stuff as they come out and before the whole thing disappears.

[Elvis]

The San Bernardino Sheriff can be listed to here: http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/ctid/218/web

Seems that a lot of LE radios can be monitored online; with a couple of clicks I can listen to my local cops (e.g. when there's police activity outside my building).

If anyone hasn't done it, it can be enlightening to spend a few hours listening to police on their radios. And of course, every now and then it gets very exciting.

Oh and here's a tip: record some "one-adam-twelve code nine in progress" type police radio chatter on your smartphone (if you have one) and play it back when you want someone to think the police are nearby. Or pee their pants, if they're up to no good.


Another search result for the broadcastify site yielded this:

Browse Feeds Top Feeds New Feeds Official Feeds Alert Feeds Archives
San Bernardino Police System 10

Tweet
US > California > San Bernardino (County) [Los Angeles]

Listen Feed Genre Listeners Player Selection Links Status
San Bernardino Police System 10

No longer broadcasting CH 5 and CH3 per TOS. Sorry.

Status: There is a high probability that this feed will be terminated in the next few weeks. Public Safety
410
Online



Feed Notes

40 king is the helicopter air unit

https://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/12443

edit: right now, a SB patrol officer is climbing over a fence after some suspect....half expecting to hear at any moment, "Man down...suspect is dead"

[stickdog99]

the guy was identified early on by the sound of his voice

Where did you see that? The NY Times puff piece on the survivors said that the assailants never spoke.

"Witnesses said they recognized Farook as one of the shooters by his voice and build..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_San_Bernardino_shooting
#21. ^ Dean Hopkins, Christopher; Wagner, Laura (December 3, 2015). "Police Identify Suspects Killed After Deadly San Bernardino Shooting". [url=/wiki/NPR]NPR[/url]. Retrieved December 3, 2015.

But says who? Have we actually seen a credible witness say this? Or was this fed to us by the police?

the line is attributed to "a source"

Yep. From the original article:

"A source tells Dina (NPR Reporter Dina Temple-Raston) that witnesses appeared to recognize his voice and build even though he was wearing a ski mask."

[backtoiam]

Oh and here's a tip: record some "one-adam-twelve code nine in progress" type police radio chatter on your smartphone (if you have one) and play it back when you want someone to think the police are nearby. Or pee their pants, if they're up to no good.

I grew up with a scanner on me. If a person wants to listen to some things look for some of the oldest equipment available and it has wider frequency ranges and some that are blocked in new equipment. If you can find a device with an unbroken frequency range from the low ranges to the high ranges you just found yourself something interesting. I guess unbroken frequency range receivers are still available but I don't know. Might still be able to get one new on the internet i'm not sure.

[stickdog99]

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... ise-peraza

Peraza has told friends and family members that the doors of a conference room had opened and two people dressed all in black wearing black face masks entered with "big ol' guns" and started shooting randomly.

"The guys opened fire for 30 seconds, randomly, then paused to reload and began firing again," she said.

[stickdog99]

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html

He said that she was shocked to learn from him the identity of the shooter: Anies' shy, quiet colleague Syed Rizwan Farook. He attended the mosque where the Kondokers prayed.

[stickdog99]

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... julie-paez

"They think it's your co-worker," Nick Paez remembered telling his mother.

"That doesn't make sense," she replied. "They were congratulating him for having a baby."

[SonicG]

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-man-describes-getting-to-wifes-bedside-20151204-story.html

He said that she was shocked to learn from him the identity of the shooter: Anies' shy, quiet colleague Syed Rizwan Farook. He attended the mosque where the Kondokers prayed.

Talk about burying the lede...The main article in the LA Times also has some interesting details:
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html

Three pipe bombs taped together with a timer were supposedly found at the site of the shooting - FWIW.

[SonicG]

Dblpost sorry

[elfismiles]

A Missed Warning?
Scanner traffic indicates law enforcement may have investigated San Bernardino shooter Syed Farook a week before the attack.
5:04 PM, Dec 07, 2015 | By Stephen F. Hayes

Law enforcement officials in San Bernardino and Los Angeles may have investigated Syed Farook one week before the shooting on the community development center on December 2, 2015, that left 14 dead and 17 injured, according to a review of police communications immediately following the attacks.

Federal and local authorities have insisted that neither of the attackers had aroused suspicion before the assault earlier this month and that both Syed Farook and his wife, Tashfeen Malik, were unknown to law enforcement and US intelligence. But conversations between law enforcement officials in the hours after the shootings leave a different impression.

Farook is first identified by name at approximately 11:40am local time, just a half hour after the shooting began. The information came from a county worker, who noted that Farook had been acting nervous and left the holiday party twenty minutes before the shooting began.

In a subsequent exchange at approximately 12:08pm the dispatcher addresses an officer nicknamed "Trav" upon hearing "Syed Farook." She says: "Reference that name, I believe one of the [garbled] was working that name up for something last week. I'll have to check."

In a second exchange shortly after 12:20, another officer says of Farook: "I just got some info from that LAPD that they have information on one of your suspects. I heard that somebody was trying to INV that guy. Can you find out who I can give this information to?"

A third exchange, two minutes later, follows:


Officer 2: [garbled] I had received a call [garbled] that had some information that they had ran the guy or something last week and I was going to give it to your intel guys.


Officer 1: Okay, that's what I was trying to get you to. If you're at the mobile command – uh, what's your 20?

The San Bernardino Police Department did not respond to inquiries by press time. Officer Rosario Herrera, a spokeswoman for the Los Angeles Police Department, told TWS that she wouldn't be at liberty to discuss any prior investigation. "As I'm aware, we don't have any information." (Audio of the scanner traffic was provided via Broadcastify by "Jason Beale," a pseudonym for a former senior US intelligence official. Broadcastify bills itself as "the world's largest source of public safety, aircraft, rail and marine radio live audio streams." Premium subscribers have access to archived audio of recordings for 180 days).


Scanner traffic is often unreliable, particularly in the immediate aftermath of an active shooter incident. It's possible that the officers who discussed the prior investigation were mistaken. But it's at least clear that several officers believed that Farook had been the subject of an earlier investigation.

A transcript of five calls concerning Farook and a potential previous investigation follows. The calls took place between approximately 11:40am and 12:40pm pacific time.

1) The first exchange, between an unidentified San Bernardino police officer and the dispatcher, comes at 11:40am, approximately 30 minutes after the shooting began. The call follows a police interview with a witness to the shooting and includes the first mention of Farook's name.

Officer: Looking for possible suspect info.


Dispatcher: 909, go ahead.

Officer: Male [garbled] left out of the blue, ummm, and then 20 minutes later the shooting occurred. The subject's last of Farfook (sic) or Farook: Frank, Adam, Roger, Ocean, Ocean, King. First of Syed: Sam, Yellow, Edward, David.

Dispatcher: The front of –

Officer: Matches the description of one of the shooters.

Dispatcher: The front of your transmission was covered. He left where?


Officer: He was acting nervous, left the building – 20 minutes later or so the shooting began. He matches the physical of one of the shooters.

Dispatcher: Your call sign please?

Officer: [garbled.]

2) The second call, at 12:08pm, includes additional information on the shooter. In an exchange between the dispatcher and three officers, at the mention of Syed Farook the dispatcher volunteers that authorities had looked at him the previous week.

Officer 1: Lincoln 6 to Tony King.

Officer 2: [garbled] Tony.

Officer 1: Tony, have you passed that information on to somebody who can follow-up on it?

Officer 2: Which info was that, Trav?

Officer 1: The suspect info that you had?

Officer 2: I put it out [garbled].

Officer 1: Okay, I need that info given to somebody that can start working it up so we can get a location on this guy.

Officer 2: Hey Travis?

Officer 1: Go ahead.

Officer 3: It's Gary. I've got that info. Donny's working on it right now. I'll let you know what we find.

Officer 1: Gary, when you find out give me a twenty-one with it. (Ed: 10-21 is code for a phone call).

Officer 3: The only info I have right now is on that Syed guy – name and date of birth.

Officer 1: When she lets you know, call me with the info.

Officer 3: Will do.

Dispatcher: Lincoln six.

Officer 1: Go ahead, ma'am.

Dispatcher: Reference that name, I believe one of the [garbled] was working that name up for something last week. I'll have to check.

Officer 2: Hey Travis?

Officer 1: Go ahead.

Officer 2: Captain Gomez is wondering if you're available to 87 at the CP [Ed: command post] on the north side.

Officer 1: Yes.

3) The third exchange comes at 12:20pm and features a brief conversation between two San Bernardino police officers. One of the officers reports that the Los Angeles Police Department has information on one of the suspects.

Officer 1: Station one, sheriff [garbled].

Officer 2: Alright, go ahead.

Officer 1: I just got some info from that LAPD that they have information on one of your suspects. I heard that somebody was trying to INV that guy. Can you find out who I can give this information to?

Officer 2: Copy.

4) The fourth exchange, just two minutes later, at 12:22pm,

Officer 1: Last unit.

Officer 2: Sheriff [garbled].

Officer 1: Are you out? On our incident?

Officer 2: [garbled] I had received a call [garbled] that had some information that they had ran the guy or something last week and I was going to give it to your intel guys.

Officer 1: Okay, that's what I was trying to get you to. If you're at the mobile command – uh, what's your 20? [Ed: Current location].

Officer 2: Central station.

Officer 1: Copy. We will send – I'm going to send a unit out to you, okay?

5) A fifth exchange repeats the information identifying the shooter and attributes it to a witness.

Officer 1: I talked to a witness who sat next to him said the guy [unintelligible] was a county worker, was acting a little weird, left early – which he also thought was weird. And then about 30 minutes later the shooting happened. Says the shooter he saw matched the same height and build as the guy that left. I have a name and general age – no date of birth.

Officer 2: And where is that witness now?

Officer 1: He's on the south side of the golf course with the rest of the, uh, people.

Officer 2: Okay, what's his name?

Officer 1: Standby.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/a-missed- ... e/2000125/

[Luther Blissett]

I'm not seeing what time they fled their house in the rented SUV

Seems like they must have had ~3 hours at home after the mass shooting before they fled in the SUV, also not seeing how long they drove around before the shootout at about 3pm.

Why would they have left the house? and isn't it odd that the police didn't block the SUV, why let them drive off?

the guy was identified early on by the sound of his voice and his build by a survivor, so he must have been suspect #1 pretty much all along.

So I wonder what they were up to at home for 3+ hours with, presumably, cops visible outside much of the time.

They were probably just cleaning up around the house or hanging out since they still had the sitter for another few hours, and then left to go pick their baby up from the grandparents. Rather than "fleeing" it was probably just "leaving".

Does anyone have a map of their home, the location of their deaths, the grandparents' home, and the center where the shooting took place?

[elfismiles]

[quote="Luther Blissett » 08 Dec 2015 14:43]
Does anyone have a map of their home, the location of their deaths, the grandparents' home, and the center where the shooting took place?[/quote]

From the Wikipedia page...

The shootout occurred on the south side of San Bernardino Avenue just east of Sheldon Drive; the red "A" marks the location of the Inland Regional Center.

Unaware of map of the home or of family.

[MinM]

I think the active shooter drill might not be such a big deal anymore. I don't know about welfare centers but it seems that hospitals are doing them regularly:
http://www.hasc.org/active-shooter-drill-resources
Although, about every month? That angle needs to be looked at. Talk about instilling fear...Then again, San Berdoo is infamous for Hells Angels so there probably are a lot of weapons floating around and nutters on meth...

ETA:
Of course, it is becoming a big industry.
'Run, hide, fight': What to do in a violent 'active shooter' situation
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/peop ... olice.html

‏@BostonGlobe: They knew it was only a security exercise, but even then the employees were terrified http://bos.gl/3ROnZ0w