#OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

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Postby beeline » Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:42 am

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A tale of two cities: The First Amendment or private police

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Occupy Wall Street is moving into its second month. From the outset, the police in New York City took a decidedly unfriendly posture to the demonstrators: pepper spray, billy clubs pushing and shoving, trying to restrain the movements of the demonstrators and lots of arrests.

The mayor of New York swung into action and accused the Wall Street demonstrators of trying to cripple the city’s economy.


“What they’re trying to do is take the jobs away from people working in this city.”

This is of course a ludicrous claim. If anything, as people travel into the city to participate and the media begin to focus, vendors, hotels, restaurants and many other merchants are selling more of their goods and services.

But this is not the kind of convention his honor wants to host.

Of course, the mayor may not have been thinking of the jobs of hot dog vendors, deli owners and local merchants. He may have been thinking about the jobs of bankers. But if so, his worry is unfounded.

The protesters don’t want mass layoffs of bank clerks. They just want to see some of their bosses go to jail.

In Philadelphia, where Occupy Philadelphia was launched only a week ago, city leaders took a different approach. A spokesman for the mayor set the tone, telling the media, “They (the protesters) have been law-abiding; there have been no arrests or citations; they’ve controlled their site very well; they have cooperated with police.”

He continued, “They’re exercising their right to free speech, and they’re going about it in a very mature way.”

Philly Mayor Michael Nutter visited the die-hards who slept out in the open the first night — at 1:30 a.m.

Philadelphia newspapers reported that Police Commissioner Charles H. Ramsey “has directed his officers to work with demonstrators and assist with marches. He emphasized that officers are bound to protect the demonstrators’ right to protest peacefully.”

Ramsey has also had the First Amendment read at roll calls and periodically over the police radio system as a reminder.

How to explain the difference in the two cities?

One reason may be that Philadelphia is the place where the “inalienable” rights of the people were first declared, and then protected in the Constitution, and it appears are still taught in the schools.

Another may be that the police in both New York and Philly report to the mayor, and they are very different men. The mayor of New York City, Michael Bloomberg, is a billionaire who made his billions — and goes on making them — providing business services to Wall Street. He has a major Wall Street firm as business partner.

But in a recent article in the journal Counterpunch, 20-year Wall Street veteran Pan Martens reported a more troubling explanation for the aggressive behavior of the New York City police: they’ve been bought.

Oh, I don’t mean New York cops are taking illegal bribes to beat up demonstrators. This is America. The bribes have been legalized. The cops have been hired by Wall Street, in a program started by former NYC Mayor Rudi Giuliani.

Martens reports, “It’s called the Paid Detail Unit and it allows the New York Stock Exchange and Wall Street corporations, including those repeatedly charged with crimes, to order up a flank of New York’s finest with the ease of dialing the deli for a pastrami on rye.”

According to Martens, for $37 an hour, the New York Stock Exchange, Goldman Sachs and other undisclosed firms will have paid out more than $11 million by the end of the year to hire cops with uniforms, badges, guns and the power to arrest.

Not every member of the force is happy with the arrangement. One officer described it on a website as officers “... working for, and being paid by, some of the richest people and organizations in the City, if not the world, enforcing the mandates of the private employer, and in effect, allowing the officer to become the Praetorian Guard of the elite of the City.”

One hopes that is what most of the officers think, but $11 million in hard times is bound to win friends and influence people.

So it appears that the “White Shirt” NYC cops who have been all over the demonstrators, as opposed to the familiar Blue Shirts, may not be “supervisors” as has been claimed, but are part of a private gang.

And they are being used by Wall Street today exactly as Wall Street used paid thugs at the turn of the past century to break up striking miners and steel workers.

So, hats off to the Honorable Michael Nutter, Mayor of the City of Philadelphia, his commissioner of police, Charles H. Ramsey, the men and women of the force and, above all, the people of the City of Philadelphia and the Occupiers for providing the nation with a much needed civics lesson.

Fed up with a government that serves, protects and defends only established wealth and privilege, they have taken matters in their own hands; but unlike the barons on Wall Street and their allies, they have not taken the law into their own hands.
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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby Laodicean » Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:05 pm


Marine Sargeant/Military Veteran Scolds, Shames NYPD For Beating Unarmed Protesters

Marine Sgt. Shamar Thomas, of Roosevelt, NY, exercises his first amendment right to tell the NYPD to stop beating unarmed people who are exercising their first amendment rights.


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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby Bruce Dazzling » Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:13 pm

Laodicean wrote:
Marine Sargeant/Military Veteran Scolds, Shames NYPD For Beating Unarmed Protesters

Marine Sgt. Shamar Thomas, of Roosevelt, NY, exercises his first amendment right to tell the NYPD to stop beating unarmed people who are exercising their first amendment rights.


http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/ar ... rotesters/


The looks on the Pinkerton's faces were priceless.

Awkward.......
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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby Jeff » Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:24 pm

A wonderful speech by Malcolm Azania, broadcaster, activist and former NDP candidate, at Occupy Edmonton.



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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby Bruce Dazzling » Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:46 pm

Jeff wrote:A wonderful speech by Malcolm Azania, broadcaster, activist and former NDP candidate, at Occupy Edmonton.



We are not leaderless, we just don't need bosses.


"The most reliable way to predict the future is to create it."


Yes!
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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby Bruce Dazzling » Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:57 pm

More Fox News comedy gold!

Five Lessons 'Occupy Wall Street' Protesters Could Learn About Finding a Job from 'I Love Lucy'
By Cal Thomas
Published October 16, 2011
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This weekend TV-lovers everywhere will celebrate the diamond anniversary of "I Love Lucy." The iconic television show continues to entertain and even teach audiences a few life lessons 60 years after it was born.

In fact, "Lucy" offers several life lessons for the "Occupy Wall Street" protesters. Here are five lessons "Lucy" teaches all of us about how to find a job:

1) Have a sense of humor. Lucy didn't take herself too seriously and you shouldn't, either.

2) Take a job, any job. Lucy stomped on grapes, she worked in a chocolate factory and even tried to act as the spokesperson for "Vitameatavegimin."

3) Loyalty to something higher than yourself. Lucy was devoted to her husband and to her neighbors, the Mertzes

4) Live within your means. Lucy and Ricky were Middle Class in the '50s. Their little one-bedroom apartment was perfectly adequate for their needs.

5) Though she never succeeded in show business (her character, that is) she never stopped trying. That's a life lesson for the Wall Street protestors and every other American who seems to have forgotten that persistence, more than talent and education, wins the day.
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Postby Perelandra » Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:02 pm

Bruce Dazzling wrote:The looks on the Pinkerton's faces were priceless.
Yeah, but...
"This is the US of A, why are you hurting people? If you wanna go kill and hurt people, go to Iraq". :tear
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Postby Bruce Dazzling » Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:13 pm

Perelandra wrote:
Bruce Dazzling wrote:The looks on the Pinkerton's faces were priceless.
Yeah, but...
"This is the US of A, why are you hurting people? If you wanna go kill and hurt people, go to Iraq". :tear


Word.

I have a sneaking suspicion that Sgt. Thomas may be open to a discussion of the part he played in a corporate war, though.

At least I hope he would be.

In the meantime, I'm glad that someone intimidated the intimidators for a change. And he did it simply with words.
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Postby 82_28 » Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:29 pm

Perelandra wrote:
Bruce Dazzling wrote:The looks on the Pinkerton's faces were priceless.
Yeah, but...
"This is the US of A, why are you hurting people? If you wanna go kill and hurt people, go to Iraq". :tear


Agreed, but he may have been speaking down to the cops' level too, in words and emotions they could understand as opposed to anti-war talking points. He could have meant by inference that these cops aren't even about to join the Marines and go to Iraq in the first place. And by turn, another inference could be that they were basically pussies and using the language he knew they would understand would force them to stay in the very psychological trap he understood them to be ensnared in the act of following orders for the criminal class.

All in all, for the first time in my life I'm not gonna use the term "hooah" in a condescending and sarcastic tone. But HOOAH Sgt. Thomas!
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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby Laodicean » Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:47 pm



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Postby Canadian_watcher » Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:57 pm

Bruce Dazzling wrote:
Perelandra wrote:
Bruce Dazzling wrote:The looks on the Pinkerton's faces were priceless.
Yeah, but...
"This is the US of A, why are you hurting people? If you wanna go kill and hurt people, go to Iraq". :tear


Word.

I have a sneaking suspicion that Sgt. Thomas may be open to a discussion of the part he played in a corporate war, though.

At least I hope he would be.

In the meantime, I'm glad that someone intimidated the intimidators for a change. And he did it simply with words.


simply with words? You don't think that his gigantic physical presence had anything to do with it? I couldn't have gotten away with hollering at "law enforcement" for that period of time.
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Postby crikkett » Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:02 pm

82_28 wrote:
Perelandra wrote:
Bruce Dazzling wrote:The looks on the Pinkerton's faces were priceless.
Yeah, but...
"This is the US of A, why are you hurting people? If you wanna go kill and hurt people, go to Iraq". :tear


Agreed, but he may have been speaking down to the cops' level too, in words and emotions they could understand as opposed to anti-war talking points.


It also helps that he was a full head taller than any of those cops. A righteous goliath with a chest full of medals gives one pause to reflect.

There is no honor in this!

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Postby Bruce Dazzling » Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:15 pm

Canadian_watcher wrote:
Bruce Dazzling wrote:
Perelandra wrote:
Bruce Dazzling wrote:The looks on the Pinkerton's faces were priceless.
Yeah, but...
"This is the US of A, why are you hurting people? If you wanna go kill and hurt people, go to Iraq". :tear


Word.

I have a sneaking suspicion that Sgt. Thomas may be open to a discussion of the part he played in a corporate war, though.

At least I hope he would be.

In the meantime, I'm glad that someone intimidated the intimidators for a change. And he did it simply with words.


simply with words? You don't think that his gigantic physical presence had anything to do with it? I couldn't have gotten away with hollering at "law enforcement" for that period of time.


CW,

I have no idea what you could or couldn't have gotten away with, and it's really a moot point, isn't it?.

This Sgt. Thomas character is the only person in the discussion, and he made those cops, with their tazers, pepper spray, billy clubs, and guns, look like ashamed puppy dogs, and he did it by shouting at them, not through any physical force.

While he most likely would have put up more of a fight than you (or me, for that matter), I have no doubt that if push came to shove, the NYPD would have won any physical confrontation handily, and some of them probably would have loved the opportunity to shut him the fuck up.

And for what it's worth, I've had a couple of interactions over the past few days where I was told by cops to "move along" from the front of Zuccotti Park, and my response was that I was on a public sidewalk, paid for by my tax dollars, and that I'd stand anywhere I pleased. When challenged, on camera, a lot of these police people back down. Even from a 5'8" 125 pound white guy.
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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby ninakat » Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:25 pm

Chris Hedges wrote:There is no danger that the protesters who have occupied squares, parks and plazas across the nation in defiance of the corporate state will be co-opted by the Democratic Party or groups like MoveOn.


I hope he's right. I wouldn't get complacent though.

MOVEON.ORG’S VIRTUAL MARCH IS A TROJAN HORSE: Unions, Democrats, Liberals and Progressives attracted to the flame of #OWS
October 6, 2011
Daily Fumes

. . . Van Jones is an ardent supporter of Barack Obama and served as Special Advisor for Green Jobs under Obama until he resigned on September 5 under a cloud of controversy. He worked with MoveOn.org to launch the Rebuild the Dream campaign, which was intended to start a progressive American Dream movement to counter the Tea Party movement. Jones and Moveon.org are hovering around the movement, making frequent visits to at Freedom Plaza. They are clearly using the OWS movement to promote their own agenda which is the re-election of Obama. They hope to give an impression to an unknowing public that their “agenda” coincides with that of the movement. . . .

+ + +

MoveOn.Org and Friends Attempt to Co-Opt Occupy Wall Street Movement
Tuesday, 11 October 2011
by: Steve Horn, Truthout

. . . The Democratic Party vultures are waiting to swoop in, steal the thunder and then make sure the focus is on electing Democrats, who are just as much to blame as Republicans for the ascendancy of Wall Street. If anything, they are even more to blame for the pacification role they play in co-opting the overwhelming swath of the left time and time again, no matter what horrible policies they pass. . . .

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And, in case you missed it on a previous page:

viewtopic.php?p=429954#p429954

OPERATION COOPTATION: THE DEMS TRY TO SEDUCE THE OCCUPATION MOVEMENT
Wed, 10/12/2011 - 13:06 — Glen Ford
Black Agenda Report

. . . Moveon.org, the Democrat’s front group in movement politics, is all over the protests. The party’s fundraising unit in the U.S. House, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, is attempting to get 100,000 rank and filers to declare: ''I stand with the Occupy Wall Street protests.'' Meanwhile, the DCCC fills its coffers with Wall Street money. . . .
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Re: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET campaign - September 17

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:33 pm

They're having a Convention which will address issues

Here Are Occupy Wall Street's Plans For A National Convention That Could Change The Face Of America

It's in the works. A massive Occupy Wall Street gathering with delegates from all over the country. And if these plans are carried out, Occupy Wall Street will be a major force to be reckoned with on Election Day 2012.

The date? July 4, 2012.

Put aside questions of whether or not the movement will survive that long. Imagine that they do, because they have no doubt.

If only our economy had that kind of confidence.

Discussions on how to proceed will begin tomorrow at a massive General Assembly at 7 PM. Here's how they describe what they're about to do:

....the election of delegates and holding of a national general assembly or convention on July 4, 2012 must be organized. No calls for violence. No calls for the violent overthrow of the government.

...Once organized and the delegates have been elected by direct ballot in all 435 districts. They must demand that our elected leaders take action. If they do not take action within one year of the demand, we will demand their mass resignations and that new elections be held so we can take back our democracy from the corporations and those who BUY power and influence with MONEY. Yes this includes unions and lobbyists.

The Citizens United case must be reversed...

More concrete, long-term measures can also be found on their website in a document called The Steps to Non-Violent Revolution and the Convening of a National General Assembly. There are ten of them, and the most amazing thing about them, is that they outline a democratic plan to decide on a platform of reforms supported by occupations across the entire country leading right up to the 2012 election.

Perhaps Occupy Wall Street only thought of doing this now, but I sincerely doubt it.

Basically, if this is carried out, Occupy Wall Street could shift the course of American politics at its highest levels.

Here are the steps:

1. The Occupy Wall Street movement, through the local general assembly, should elect an executive committee comprised of 11 people or some other odd number of people that is manageable for meetings. Ideally this committee should represent each city in the U.S. that is being occupied.

2. The executive committee will then attend to local issues such as obtaining permits, paying for public sanitation and dealing with the media. More important, the executive committee shall plan and organize the election of the 870 delegates to a National General Assembly between now and July 4, 2012.

3. As stated in the 99% declaration, each of the 435 congressional districts will form an election committee to prepare ballots and invite citizens in those districts to run as delegates to a National General Assembly in Philadelphia beginning on July 4, 2012 and convening until October 2012.

4. Each of the 435 congressional districts will elect one man and one woman to attend the National General Assembly. The vote will be by direct democratic ballot regardless of voter registration status as long as the voter has reached the age of 18 and is a US citizen. This is not a sexist provision. Women are dramatically under-represented in politics even though they comprise more than 50% of the U.S. population.

5. The executive committee will act as a central point to solve problems, raise money to pay for the expenses of the election of the National General Assembly and make sure all 870 delegates are elected prior to the meeting on July 4th.

6. The executive committee would also arrange a venue in Philadelphia to accommodate the delegates attending the National General Assembly where the declaration of values, petition of grievances and platform would be proposed, debated, voted on and approved. The delegates would also elect a chair from their own ranks to run the meetings of the congress and break any tie votes. We will also need the expertise of a gifted parliamentarian to keep the meetings moving smoothly and efficiently.

7. The final declaration, platform and petition of grievances, after being voted upon by the 870 delegates to the National General Assembly would be formally presented by the 870 delegates to all three branches of government and all candidates running for federal public office in November 2012. Thus, the delegates would meet from July 4, 2012 to sometime in early to late October 2012.

8. The delegates to the National General Assembly would then vote on a time period, presently suggested as one year, to give the newly elected government in November an opportunity to redress the petition of grievances. This is our right as a People under the First Amendment.

9. If the government fails to redress the petition of grievances and drastically change the path this country is on, the delegates will demand the resignation and recall of all members of congress, the president and even the Supreme Court and call for new elections by, of and for the PEOPLE with 99 days of the resignation demand.

10. There will NEVER be any call for violence by the delegates even if the government refuses to redress the grievances and new elections are called for by the delegates. Nor will any delegate agree to take any money, job promise, or gifts from corporations, unions or any other private source. Any money donated or raised by the executive committee may only be used for publicizing the vote, the National General Assembly, and for travel expenses and accommodation at the National General Assembly ONLY. All books and records will be published openly online so that everyone may see how much money is raised and how the money is spent each month. There will be no money allowed to "purchase" delegate votes as we have in the current government. No corporate "sponsorship".

Very ambitious, we'll see how it goes.


A Declaration, Petition for the Redress of Grievances and Action Plan- An OWS Working Group‎ > ‎
Who are we?
Many people have asked, who is behind this declaration and plan of action? We are a group of college students and pro bono lawyers who met when the students got arrested in NYC. Since then, we have established an Occupy Wall Street "Working Group" to prepare a proposal to elect an Executive Committee for the purpose of organizing an election of a National General Assembly to vote on a formal petition of grievances. This is only a proposal and sample list of just demands on the government. Only a duly elected body can legitimize a list of demands from the People.

The Constitution provides for a petition of a list of grievances to present to the government. It is our opinion that such a petition needs to be presented well BEFORE the 2012 election. That is why we call for a National General Assembly attended by 870 delegates in Philadelphia on July 4, 2012.

In short, we believe that the time has come to harness the momentum of this movement and direct it at constructive goals to make change; the foremost of which is getting money out of federal politics once and for all. All politicians in this country should immediately take a pledge to refuse all sources of private campaign contributions which we view as legalized bribery.

It is clear that Congress and the President cannot regulate themselves so WE THE PEOPLE must demand that they stop taking money in exchange for votes and influence.
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