Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby Belligerent Savant » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:43 pm

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Spook » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:17 pm wrote:
Gnomad » Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:46 am wrote:
Elvis » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:40 pm wrote:
Heaven Swan wrote:he only thing so far that to me seems awfully suspicious is the business of the missing hard drive.



That is odd, except, as was pointed out earlier, above, a computer can run off an operating system (Linux) on a thumb drive. If that was the case, then the question remains, where is the thumb drive? Being much smaller, it's easier to dispose and harder to find.


Especially if you have the OS on a MicroSD card. They are tiny, you could drop one down an air conduit or such, or flush from a toilet.

It is 11mm x 15 mm and 1mm thick.

By the way, sending his brain to be deeply studied by experts sounds rather creepy. And what in his brain would explain?


You are assuming the hard drive is actually missing.
The hard drive may contain an explanation of why/if Paddock did this act.



Reportedly there was more than 1 computer/hard drive, and the Feds have been poring through it for weeks. The contents of this "missing" drive (if indeed missing) is less relevant given that there were other sources of electronic records for analysis. All speculation at this point, and likely forever.

Per an earlier posting:

Belligerent Savant » Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:45 am wrote:.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/10/25/u ... vegas.html


Parsing through the above article (linked earlier in this thread), the authors allude to more than one computer that may have been found in the room:

On Wednesday, information emerged that adds to the complexity of the case. Mr. Paddock apparently removed the hard drive from at least one computer found in his room at the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino, according to a law enforcement official.


Indeed, just a bit further down in the article, there's this:


Suspects in mass shootings typically leave long trails of clues to justify their actions, writing manifestoes or posting on social media. But Mr. Paddock did not appear to do so, leaving investigators from the Federal Bureau of Investigation to pore over his computers and cellphones in the bureau’s lab in Quantico, Va., for weeks.


So the Feds have been poring over numerous recovered media assets associated with Paddock for weeks. This 'missing hard drive' issue isn't as dramatic as initially suspected if numerous other electronic assets have been retrieved and analyzed.
By now they'd have substantial information on web browsing history, recovered deleted files, etc.

Also: given the news of his brother's arrest, analysis of his brother's devices -- computers, mobile devices, etc -- have surely been initiated in earnest as well, which almost certainly includes analysis of communications/exchanges between the brothers.

Moreover, by now the Feds must have subpoenaed service providers (social media, web/mail hosting services associated with either/both brothers), indexed and searched through such records for noteworthy content.

(Indeed, It's possible analysis of 'shooter' Paddock's available electronic media may be what led to the brother's arrest, though this is speculative absent further information.)

The results of the above analysis is unlikely to ever make it into the public domain.
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby stickdog99 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:54 pm

So, the counter consists of several questions for which there may be clear and reasonable answers - such as, just speculating -- he figured this out "all on his little lonesome" when he "glanced" at the note because he asked what it could mean and deduced one number was an elevation and another was distance, and they lined up with actual known data of height and distance. He is a trained officer with investigation experience and perhaps has some experience with firearms as well as mandatory training on terror attacks and active shooter scenarios. When did he do this? After he saw the note, before it was announced publicly. In the course of the investigation. Why hasn't it been officially sanctioned? Because the LVPD and FBI don't go around officially sanctioning bits of data just to please internet sleuths, and the fact it was stated publicly and not later denied already amounts to a kind of sanction, and also because LVPD and FBI are no longer discussing details of the case publicly at all.

All this to say - the only counter available is simply that you don't believe it. There are no actual data points to support an alternative explanation.

Why even accept the claim such a note exists, if one believes everything being reported about the massacre is untrue?


OK, so you think K-9 unit guy Newton is the correct official mouthpiece to inform all of us of the contents of the note supposedly found in Paddock's room? He checked out those numbers and measured all the distances and angles himself. K-9 unit guy just happens to be a Newtonian mechanics ballistics expert. Right?

I mean, come on. Wouldn't even trusty old "anonymous sources" be more convincing in this specific case? Why was Newton the only person ever to float this "analysis"? Why did he present this analysis as his own personal conclusion to unquestioning media stenographers rather than anything that had been officially sanctioned?

"I could see on it he had written the distance, the elevation he was on, the drop of what his bullet was gonna be for the crowd," Newton said.

Now please find me one citation from any other named source that confirms this note contains what Newton claims he figured out at a glance.

The last we heard from Sheriff Lombardo about this note:

Mr. Paddock left a trail of clues that are, so far, more cryptic than revealing: There was a note in his hotel room whose exact contents the authorities have yet to reveal. Sheriff Lombardo said that it contained numbers that were being analyzed for their relevance, and that it was not a manifesto or suicide note.

That's it. The last official word was that the numbers "were being analyzed for their relevance." Then a couple of days later Newton of the esteemed LVPD K-9 division told us what his personal analysis of the note was, based on what he "could see" just by glancing at it on the night of the shootings. There were no follow up questions. The note was never released to the press. No official source has ever confirmed Dave Newton's personal assessment of the note that, according to him, was solely based on what "he saw" the night of the shooting.

Does anyone want to bet me $100 that Newton's esteem "analysis" was 100% disinfo that will be quietly erased out of the final story?
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby stickdog99 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:56 pm

Four eyewitnesses are dead in less than a month:

1: Kymberley Suchomel - 'officially' died from complications due to epilepsy

https://www.inquisitr.com/4553338/las-v ... xpectedly/

2: Danny Contreras - 'officially' died from gunshot wounds possibly related to narcotics trafficking

http://www.commonsenseevaluation.com/20 ... R45I3.dpbs

3 & 4: Dennis and Lorraine Carver - 'officially' died when their car exploded after hitting a gate (because that's totally normal, Michael Hastings anyone?)

https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/sho ... -shooting/
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby stickdog99 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:13 pm

https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/sho ... bay-suite/

A Metropolitan Police Department officer accidentally discharged his weapon inside the Mandalay Bay gunman’s suite the night of the Oct. 1 shooting, the Clark County sheriff confirmed Monday.

The police firearm went off inside the suite sometime after officers made entry, Sheriff Joe Lombardo said. But the round or rounds were not fired in the same room where gunman Stephen Paddock was found dead with what has been described as a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

“It happened, and we’re investigating it, just like we do with any officer-involved use of force,” Lombardo told the Las Vegas Review-Journal. “Nobody was struck.”

It’s unclear what caused the officer, who has not been named, to discharge his weapon.

Lombardo also confirmed Monday that the 32nd floor of Mandalay Bay, where the gunman’s corner suite was located, did not have security cameras facing the gunman’s suite or the stairwell door that Paddock had apparently sealed sometime before the shooting. The only cameras on the floor faced the elevators.

Lombardo previously said a group of officers breached the gunman’s suite at 11:20 p.m., about an hour after the gunman stopped firing his weapons for unknown reasons.

The gunman’s motive remains a mystery, and nearly a month after the shooting, several more straightforward questions about the shooting have not been addressed or answered.

A Las Vegas police officer accidentally fired his weapon inside the Las Vegas gunman’s Mandalay Bay suite the night of the Oct. 1 mass shooting. The firearm went off sometime after officers made entry. The round or rounds were not fired in the same room where Stephen Paddock was found dead with what has been described as a self-inflicted gunshot wound. It’s unclear what caused the officer in question, who has not been named, to discharge his weapon. Sheriff Joe Lombardo said nobody was struck and his department is investigating.

As of Monday, the Clark County coroner’s office had not released the gunman’s official cause or manner of death.
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby stickdog99 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:24 pm

Helicopter flight information

LAS VEGAS (INTELLIHUB) — Flight records, aircraft transponder data, and video footage all reveal that covert air assault and EXFIL operations may have transpired on the night of the massacre.

Flight records indicate that three Airbus EC130 helicopters registered to Mustang Leasing LLC (N-numbers N854MH, N848MH, and N858MH) departed from the vicinity of 6075 S Las Vegas Blvd between 9:40 and 9:41 p.m. on Oct. 1.

The choppers are affiliated with Mustang Helicopters, Maverick Helicopters, and Maverick Aviation Group, all of which are owned by a 68-year-old Army veteran named Greggory Rochna. In fact, according to Vegas INC, Rochna owns 47 Eco-Satr-130s, which “are among the best touring helicopters on the planet,” costing “$3.2 million” each. They use a quiet tail-rotor design which helps to quell unwanted noise generated by the aircraft’s prop-wash, as Jake Morphonios reported in a video which he posted to YouTube on Oct. 13 while conducting his multi-part “Las Vegas shooting investigation.”

After their departure, the three choppers flew to the north through the city in a tight line formation before circling back to the south where they abruptly stopped and hovered directly over the Mandalay Bay/Delano property 7-minutes later. In fact, N848MH hovered directly over a portion of Mandalay Bay’s rooftop just to the west of the Events Center Bar for several minutes (between 9:48 and 9:50 p.m.) before all three aircraft transponders went dark right at 9:50 p.m., just 15-minutes before the shooting started.

To give you a better feel for where the helicopter was (along with 2 others) I have provided a map of the MGM-owned property.

The venue which hosted the Route 91 Music Festival is located just 824 yards (2,705 ft.) away from where the three choppers were positioned in a solid hover before their transponders lost signal or were manually turned off.

The following image illustrates the vantage point the three helicopters would have had over the concert venue from the locations in which they were hovering at the time.

In theory, the choppers would each have had to offload two assailants (a total of six). Two of which would have taken sniper positions right away (one on the lower north roof under Stephen Paddock’s room and one on the northeast corner of the Convention Center roof) while the other element of four stormed the casino floor, making their entrance through the parking garage.

The three choppers (N854MH, N848MH, and N858MH) would have had to hold there positions or stay in close proximity to the Mandalay Bay for the next twenty minutes until all of the ended at 10:15 p.m. That’s when the two snipers would have made their EXFIL off the roof via chopper and returned to base with all three craft approximately three-minutes later around 10:18 – 10:19 p.m.

Hypothetically, the following image depicts what the shooters in the helos would have seen from their aerial positions as the three aircraft maintained a flat hover. The assailants would have been firing unmounted M-249 belt-fed SAWs due to the fact that mounted weapons would have been too hard for the three choppers to hide from law enforcement if an encounter were to occur upon their approach or getaway.

Hypothetical view that the shooters would have had of the concert venue from their aerial position. (google Maps)
And although 20-minutes seem like a long time for three helicopters to be hovering in the sky behind Mandalay Bay, its not. With the aircraft running lights off and the quiet technology the choppers would have been virtually unnoticeable in the night sky.

Keep in mind, the four-man element would still be on the property at this point where they would be traversing their way up to the rooftop of the Delano, inside the hotel’s interior, using a series of inner-connected hallways and stairwells in order to make a planned EXFIL from the southwest rooftop of the Delano Hotel at 10:24 p.m. in an entirely different helicopter altogether, just four minutes before the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department helicopter (N911WY) arrived in the vicinity for the first time following the gunfire.

To reiterate, the helicopter that arrived over the rooftop of the Delano and hovered for over one-minute was a separate helicopter than the first three.

The image below shows the location where the mystery aircraft first appeared while heading due north toward the Delano Hotel where it slowed then stopped over the roof.

Even more disturbing is the fact that the aircraft’s transponder was transmitting the call sign “SWA4119” which is registered to a Southwest Airlines Boeing 737-7H4 passenger jet with the tail number “WN4119.”

According to the data, “SWA4119” was originally scheduled to depart Tulsa (TUL) at 14:10 (2:10 p.m. PDT) and arrive in Las Vegas (LAS) at 15:00 (3:00 p.m. PDT) but was somehow delayed for over 7-hours giving “SWA4119” a new arrival time of 22:22 (10:22 p.m. PDT) which doesn’t make sense because the craft was headed north and was too close to the airport to be aligned with any of the runaways at the time.

You see, the aircraft that was displaying the call sign “SWA4119” between 10:21 and 10:22 p.m., which had first emerged on radar at 10:21, absolutely can not be a passenger jet because the actual flight data confirms that the aircraft slowed to a stop then changed its course abruptly to a due north heading before proceeding to hover over the Delano in a very specific spot for approximately one-minute (i.e. the craft in question was, in fact, a helicopter because jets simply cannot hover or change speed and course with such intensity.) This means that the operators of the craft were intentionally transmitting a fictitious call sign before going dark (invisible) from radar altogether.

To top it off, the Oct. 1 flight data for Southwest Airlines “WN4119” is showing inconsistencies.

The following screen-capture of the the aircraft’s flight history shows that “SWA4119” landed at 10:22 p.m. at (LAS) despite the fact that a transponder was pinging from the rooftop of the Delano at that exact same time.

Not to mention, the tail number listed for that exact flight is “N227WN” and not “WN4119” as the transponder was emitting in real-time suggesting that the plane on the tarmac that “landed” was “N227WN” which is a different aircraft entirely.

The red arrow points to the exact location where the helicopter was captured on flight radar hovering between 10:21 and 10:22 p.m. Note that it is directly over the Delano Hotel’s southwest rooftop to the foot. (Screenshot via Google Maps) (modified)

After EXFIL, the mystery helicopter (previously masked as “SWA4119”) departed to the west where it looks like it may have met up with a pack of seven other choppers, all of which are currently registered to Mustang Leasing LLC.

All seven had departed from the vicinity of 6075 S Las Vegas Blvd, just minutes before, at 10:12 p.m., again, as if it was all part of a highly coordinated plan.

After the seven choppers departed their base they looped up and around the city where upon their return they were directed to stay far west of the strip due to the fact that the situation was still active.

The seven choppers were flying southward at the time in a perfect line formation and that’s when the aircraft that was masking itself as “SWA4119” with its transponder off at the time that was hovering above the Delano may have made a covert merger and inserted itself directly into the line of seven other choppers which were on their way back to base in order to mask its return. At that point there would presumably be a line of eight Mustang Leasing LLC helicopters, seven of which were captured on radar headed back to base where they all landed a few moments later.

The N-numbers of the seven helicopters with active transponders at the time are as follows: N858MH, N853MH, N848MH, N868MH, N821MH, N854MH, and N816MH.

Shockingly, video footage captured on a GoPro camera during the shooting coincides with flight data and reveals what appears to be multiple muzzle flashes coming from several different elevations in the sky between the Mandalay Bay and the Delano Hotel.

Flashes can be seen emitting from the exact spot the Mustang Leasing LLC choppers N854MH, N848MH, and N858MH were captured on radar hovering just 10-minutes prior to the shooting when their transponders all simultaneously stopped transmitting.

I also must point out that according to FAA records nothing should be in the airspace beyond the two buildings at that time and that there is no structure beyond the buildings which would warrant shooting from that elevation (i.e. the flashes are occurring in free air.)

Could the choppers have been lurking back there, beyond the hotels, for the entire 20-minutes?

At 6:47 – 7:00 in the video, what appears to be muzzle flashes can be seen at different levels in the sky. (Screenshot via Arch Angel Studios/YouTube)

As a caveat, at 6:52 into the video a shot can be seen coming from room 32-134 which is the room directly adjacent to Stephen Paddock’s suite. Astonishingly, the flash looks the same as the flashes in the sky. It appears that the shooter in room 32-134 is firing at the same time as the flashes in the sky can be seen! It appears to be a simultaneous volley of gunfire.
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby Burnt Hill » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:06 pm

^ That's a pretty big stretch to exculpate Paddock.
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby Spook » Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:15 pm

How apt that the K9 unit Officer's name is "Newton" :thumbsup
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby elfismiles » Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:57 pm

Well, until I see better sourcing than nnettle.com and commonsenseevaluation.com on Danny Contreras's social media screenshots ... I'll put that in the probably bunk pile.

The others I will concede.

stickdog99 » 31 Oct 2017 22:56 wrote:Four eyewitnesses are dead in less than a month:
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2: Danny Contreras - 'officially' died from gunshot wounds possibly related to narcotics trafficking

http://www.commonsenseevaluation.com/20 ... R45I3.dpbs
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby elfismiles » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:00 pm

Haven't had a chance to parse this intellihub article but it reminds me of this crap youtube video I saw that just made me groan from the sheer stupidity of it...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87ggHaEFNU0

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stickdog99 » 31 Oct 2017 23:24 wrote:Helicopter flight information

LAS VEGAS (INTELLIHUB) — Flight records, aircraft transponder data, and video footage all reveal that covert air assault and EXFIL operations may have transpired on the night of the massacre

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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby mentalgongfu2 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:23 pm

stickdog99 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:54 pm wrote:
So, the counter consists of several questions for which there may be clear and reasonable answers - such as, just speculating -- he figured this out "all on his little lonesome" when he "glanced" at the note because he asked what it could mean and deduced one number was an elevation and another was distance, and they lined up with actual known data of height and distance. He is a trained officer with investigation experience and perhaps has some experience with firearms as well as mandatory training on terror attacks and active shooter scenarios. When did he do this? After he saw the note, before it was announced publicly. In the course of the investigation. Why hasn't it been officially sanctioned? Because the LVPD and FBI don't go around officially sanctioning bits of data just to please internet sleuths, and the fact it was stated publicly and not later denied already amounts to a kind of sanction, and also because LVPD and FBI are no longer discussing details of the case publicly at all.

All this to say - the only counter available is simply that you don't believe it. There are no actual data points to support an alternative explanation.

Why even accept the claim such a note exists, if one believes everything being reported about the massacre is untrue?


OK, so you think K-9 unit guy Newton is the correct official mouthpiece to inform all of us of the contents of the note supposedly found in Paddock's room? He checked out those numbers and measured all the distances and angles himself. K-9 unit guy just happens to be a Newtonian mechanics ballistics expert. Right?

I mean, come on. Wouldn't even trusty old "anonymous sources" be more convincing in this specific case? Why was Newton the only person ever to float this "analysis"? Why did he present this analysis as his own personal conclusion to unquestioning media stenographers rather than anything that had been officially sanctioned?

"I could see on it he had written the distance, the elevation he was on, the drop of what his bullet was gonna be for the crowd," Newton said.

Now please find me one citation from any other named source that confirms this note contains what Newton claims he figured out at a glance.

The last we heard from Sheriff Lombardo about this note:

Mr. Paddock left a trail of clues that are, so far, more cryptic than revealing: There was a note in his hotel room whose exact contents the authorities have yet to reveal. Sheriff Lombardo said that it contained numbers that were being analyzed for their relevance, and that it was not a manifesto or suicide note.

That's it. The last official word was that the numbers "were being analyzed for their relevance." Then a couple of days later Newton of the esteemed LVPD K-9 division told us what his personal analysis of the note was, based on what he "could see" just by glancing at it on the night of the shootings. There were no follow up questions. The note was never released to the press. No official source has ever confirmed Dave Newton's personal assessment of the note that, according to him, was solely based on what "he saw" the night of the shooting.

Does anyone want to bet me $100 that Newton's esteem "analysis" was 100% disinfo that will be quietly erased out of the final story?


There you go again. I don't have to prove his analysis is correct or argue that it's not disinfo, and I certainly didn't attempt to prove either. Fact is, it's the only statement from anyone associated with the case as far as I'm aware that attempts to explain the note.

Again, I find it unusual that you believe the reporting that the note exists but refute that it means what the LVPD says it means, and must resort to language that belittles the officer to do so ie "glanced" "esteemed k9 unit" etc. given we know nothing of the officer's expertise or lack thereof and that we haven't seen this note.

Now please find me one citation from any other named source that provides any other assessment of what the note means, assuming it does exist.
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby lucky » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:37 am

so here I am in little ol England and see yet again a shooting take place that results in multiple 'therories' - why not good ol ocram? man goes nuts and shoots the fuck out of anyone in his line of vision from his hotel room.
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby stickdog99 » Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:07 am

lucky » 01 Nov 2017 11:37 wrote:so here I am in little ol England and see yet again a shooting take place that results in multiple 'therories' - why not good ol ocram? man goes nuts and shoots the fuck out of anyone in his line of vision from his hotel room.
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How is this an "explanation"? Mentally healthy millionaire senior citizens do not just "go nuts" by carefully pre-planning the meaningless murder of total strangers and only total strangers followed by their own suicide. If you think that they do, then let me know all the previous examples this occurring in human history.

It's weird how we all believe that people "going nuts" and killing total strangers and then themselves for no reason in a premeditated fashion is an everyday, commonplace occurrence, like terrorism in the movie Brazil.

It's anything but commonplace.

Sadistic serial killers are relatively common, but they enjoy killing one or two at a time and want to stay alive to keep killing.

Rampage killers are pretty common, but unless the these rampages start with relatives, coworkers or other perceived enemies, they are almost never premeditated.

Suicidal asymmetric warfare (aka suicidal terrorism) also happens, but not as often as we Imagine. From 1974-1993, for example, there was not a single suicide attack against civilian targets in the state of Israel. Form 2006 to 2015 (a full decade), there were a grand total of 4 suicidal attacks against civilians in Israel, causing a grand total of 13 deaths. Before today's bizarre attack (which was not a suicide attack),there have been just 2 suicide attacks in the USA since 2001, and the attack in 2016 resulted in no injuries.

Here's what doesn't happen inhuman history, at least not before 10/1/2017. Old, financially comfortable humans with no history of mental disorders do not just "go nuts" and then decide to execute their elaborate plans to off themselves after mass murdering dozens of total strangers for no reason whatsoever. Sorry, but that just doesn't happen, Occam. So maybe we should be asking ourselves why we so desperately want to believe that this is so perfectly credible, feasible, and likely?
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby mentalgongfu2 » Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:23 am

Strawmen everywhere.
It is not commonplace, but it's not as if it never happens.
It happens frequently enough to be a thing. A few times per year worldwide in modern times.
Take wealth out of your argument, as it is irrelevant.

It's weird that you say it was done for "no reason" simply because you don't know the reason.

Clearly, whoever the shooter was, is not what normal people consider "mentally healthy," whether it was Paddock or some deep state covert operative as you seem to prefer.
No one who does such things is mentally healthy, whether it be a civilian or someone on an official misssion. Even soldiers must be brainwashed to kill and suffer horrible consequences if they did not come in as sociopaths. And there are lots of undiagnosed crazies in the world, my friend.

I don't want to believe anything. I have no way to really know how viable the official story is. I just happen to think a lot of the things being presented to discredit it are clear horseshit. Big piles of it, in fact. Such as the idea that rich people don't kill others, or themselves when about to be killed by police. Or that your Israel example conveniently leaves our a 13 year period with no explanation.

My observing the horseshit of the altelrnative theories lends no credibility to the official version. But the idea that Vegas was groundbreaking in any way but the number killed is ridiculous. Age, wealth, and lack of mental health diagnoses have nothing to do with it - to claim they do is naive in my view, if not disingenuous.
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby stickdog99 » Thu Nov 02, 2017 4:27 am

When else in human history has a single comfortable, old individual ever killed himself (or herself) right after murdering a bunch random strangers (and only total strangers) in a completely premeditated fashion?

Since "it's not as if it never happens", you can easily cite many historical precedents. Right?

When?

Seriously, why is something that has never, ever happened before (and for good fucking reason because it is the very definition of completely and utterly pointless evil) so incredibly believable to just about everyone, including all of you? What makes all of you want to believe this is so believable?
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby elfismiles » Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:29 am

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The victims of the Las Vegas shooting – R.I.P.

Why Has The Las Vegas Massacre Disappeared From The News Cycle?

The Las Vegas Massacre, Amid A Revolving News Cycle, Demands More Public Questioning Rather Than Simply Fading Away
By Jon Hall , in Current Events Exposing MSM Lies on November 1, 2017
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We owe it to the victims to not let this simply fade away. We owe it to their memory to ask why the narrative behind the shooting stinks. We owe it to their legacy to question and demand answers from our public representatives when discussion and coverage is being obviously stone-walled. Nary a peep has come from any legacy media concerning Vegas in the past month, and that alone should make you question what’s really going on. You don’t have to delve into conspiracy theories or hack-witted ideas of a hoax. Merely ask yourself…
Where did the investigative coverage on the Vegas shooting go? Why did the story drop out of the news cycle with so many unanswered questions?

The worst mass-shooting in America yet and seemingly everyone has shrugged their shoulders, thrown up their hands, and declared indifference until the next one.

http://fmshooter.com/las-vegas-massacre ... ding-away/
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-0 ... news-cycle



“It doesn’t matter,” FBI spokeswoman Sandra Breault told the Las Vegas Review-Journal on Thursday, when asked why there had been no significant updates in two weeks.


Authorities put brakes on information flow in Las Vegas shooting
https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/sho ... -shooting/
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