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Wombaticus Rex wrote:I think everything I've read from that Abby Sunderland makes it clear she's an exceptional young woman, and the facts of her story make it clear that she studied hard, passed certification requirements, and was, legally speaking, at least as prepared as any adult could be for such a challenging voyage. I also think media coverage is quick to belittle or ignore the fact she pulled it off for almost 5 fucking months before disaster struck.
I have no doubt that everyone here has life experience with exceptionally mature and focused young mammals under the age of 18. They exist and they need to be nourished and encouraged, not protected from their own ambitions. But whatever. Fortunately, none of you are Abby's parents -- she's lucky.
Nordic wrote:
I know why sex sells to adults, but why would Nick by selling it on their channel, when their audience is strictly kids (except for the parents who happen to be in the room, like myself)?
Wombaticus Rex wrote:justdrew wrote:does it need a separate thread? what about the 16yo girl now lost at sea. some amazing parents there. Just think of the money involved. The goal was to be youngest person to circumnavigate the globe non-stop. that "failed" upon pulling into south africa for a broken autopilot (I didn't think you got to use an autopilot but I guess, wtf why not). And then there's all this talk of her "tech crew" who are thousands of miles away apparently. There's supposedly no ship closer than 400km away form where emergency beacons were activated. Seems to me I would have been in a seperate ship nearby if MY daughter were doing this, but hey, again... this is TOTALLY symbolic/symptomatic of spoiled-overgrown-baby rich-parents child-rearing style. "Just call me on your sat phone in you need anything. bye bye!"
That is not even remotely fucked up and it blows my mind you'd see it in such a judgemental light.
I see it as an incredible example of having faith in your children and their dreams.JackRiddler wrote:It's fucked up but also an exceedingly rare case. This is no danger of becoming a trend, at least not in this form. Also, round-the-world like this is always very high risk, no matter who does it.
At 16 the more common case is that parents good or bad lose any control and must watch them go do their own stupid things, without enabling it like in this case.
Again, baffle-faced. She's not getting pregnant, she's not hanging out with older cokeheads, she's not deciding to become a death metal groupie, she's sailing a solo mission around the fucking world. That's impressive, that's exactly the kind of DNA exactly we need to be encouraging. They didn't just put the kid on a boat, she was trained, she was in love with the idea, she studied up and passed tests.
Far too much, far too young: Outrage over shocking images of the 10-YEAR-OLD model who has graced the pages of Vogue
By Sadie Whitelocks
The Daily Mail
5th August 2011
She reclines among leopard print pillows, her rouged lips pouting at the camera. But shockingly the model in these highly sexualised pictures is only 10 years old.
The provocative images of Thylane Lena-Rose Blondeau, who is tipped as the next big thing on the fashion scene, are causing a storm of controversy with campaigners furious that a child so young should be displaying the sexual allure of someone twice her age.
Thylane has appeared in numerous campaigns and her image is all over the internet. To date she has an impressive portfolio - the French girl has graced the cover of Vogue Enfants and posed for high-end editorials.
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Born in the Ivory Coast, she has already been compared to Sixties siren Brigitte Bardot - who at the age of 15 appeared in ELLE.
But these latest images, complete with heavy make-up and stiletto heels, which appear in French Vogue, have brought the issue to a head.
They come in the wake of a recent Government initiative in the UK to enforce restrictions on the sexualisation of children in the media and sexual content in advertising.
Reg Bailey, Chief Executive of the Mothers' Union, was commissioned to conduct the independent review on the pressures faced by children today.
A spokesperson for the Mothers' Union told MailOnline: 'We have grave concerns about the modelling agency who represent Blondeau, which clearly does not know if it represents a child or an adult.
'Photo shoots requiring her, a 10-year-old-girl, to dress in full make-up, teetering heels and a dress with a cleavage cut to the waist across her pre-pubescent body deny Blondeau the right to be the child she is.
'These images would, we hope, post Bailey Review, not pass through the standards of magazines, on street advertising and other media within the UK.'
In the review a survey revealed that 88 per cent of parents agreed that children are under pressure grow up too quickly, with 58 per cent accounting this to celebrity culture.
One blogger said of the images: ‘She is a beautiful little girl, as are all ten year old girls. While I am sure she will make a terrific model someday, I find these pictures beyond disturbing - she is styled way too maturely.’
And experts warned today about the psychological damage done to children who are treated in this way.
Dr Emma Gray is a consultant clinical psychologist and cllinical director of The British CBT & Counselling Service, which deals in behavioural therapy.
She said: ‘This picture is the antithesis of what childhood in our society should be; a child being exposed to a world she is not yet equipped to deal with solely to serve the needs of the adults around her.
‘If children are to develop into happy, grounded and psychologically balanced people their childhood needs to be spent appropriately preparing for the demands of the adult world.
‘Before they are exposed to this world it is the task of the adults around them to create an environment that gives them the time, space and nurture to complete their physical and psychological development. Prematurely exposing a child to the adult world is dangerously preventing the completion of their development into a person who can survive in it.’
Thylane’s entry into the fashion world follows a recent trend for younger models. At 13, actress Elle Fanning is the current star of the Marc by Marc Jacobs autumn/winter campaign and 14-year-old Hailee Steinfeld signed a deal with Miu Miu soon after receiving her Oscar nomination for True Grit this year.
Like many child stars Thylane has strong connections with the entertainment industry. She is the daughter of Véronika Loubry, an actress and television presenter and the former French international football player Patrick Blondeau.
Despite all those concerned about Thylane's age and image, younger admirers seem to be less averse to the provocative images.
On her Facebook page, which totals over 700 fans, people have posted comments celebrating her looks. One writes: 'Hey I just wanted to say that Thylane is absolutely stunning! xx' while another writes 'the awkward moment when a ten year old is prettier than you'.
Mr Bailey added: 'Society also seems to have become more openly sexualised; the rapidly changing technological environment has its benefits in so many ways but has also made the seamier side of humanity inescapable.'
David Cameron has endorsed the findings of the Bailey report and plans to grill companies and regulators at a Downing Street summit in October on the progress they have made.
THE CHANGING FACE OF SOCIETY
The ‘ideal’ body image created by the media and the fashion industry are intertwined.
The advertising industry target women and younger girls as commodities, as well as important consumers.
A UK online survey in 2005 showed that 63 per cent of young girls between 15 to 19 years aspired to be glamour models rather than doctors or teachers.
The sociological reason for this can be debated but may be linked to a false sense of increased self esteem and confidence, associated with society’s acceptance of increasingly feminine role models.
It’s probably not ‘cool’ to be clever. Increased focus on not having the ideal ‘air brushed’ body may give rise to increased anxiety and worries related to body image, eating disorders in young people as young as 14 years, clinical depression and adjustment difficulties with usual life stresses.
As a doctor treating young people with emotional difficulties, one often faces the reality of aspiration and broken dreams of young people. It’s not enough to be just ‘cool’ to go through life.
DR SOUMITRA DATTA, Consultant Child & Adolescent Psychiatrist, London Medical
Simulist wrote:Wombaticus Rex wrote:justdrew wrote:does it need a separate thread? what about the 16yo girl now lost at sea. some amazing parents there. Just think of the money involved. The goal was to be youngest person to circumnavigate the globe non-stop. that "failed" upon pulling into south africa for a broken autopilot (I didn't think you got to use an autopilot but I guess, wtf why not). And then there's all this talk of her "tech crew" who are thousands of miles away apparently. There's supposedly no ship closer than 400km away form where emergency beacons were activated. Seems to me I would have been in a seperate ship nearby if MY daughter were doing this, but hey, again... this is TOTALLY symbolic/symptomatic of spoiled-overgrown-baby rich-parents child-rearing style. "Just call me on your sat phone in you need anything. bye bye!"
That is not even remotely fucked up and it blows my mind you'd see it in such a judgemental light.
I see it as an incredible example of having faith in your children and their dreams.JackRiddler wrote:It's fucked up but also an exceedingly rare case. This is no danger of becoming a trend, at least not in this form. Also, round-the-world like this is always very high risk, no matter who does it.
At 16 the more common case is that parents good or bad lose any control and must watch them go do their own stupid things, without enabling it like in this case.
Again, baffle-faced. She's not getting pregnant, she's not hanging out with older cokeheads, she's not deciding to become a death metal groupie, she's sailing a solo mission around the fucking world. That's impressive, that's exactly the kind of DNA exactly we need to be encouraging. They didn't just put the kid on a boat, she was trained, she was in love with the idea, she studied up and passed tests.
I tend to agree with you on this.
Also, if the young woman had been successful in her voyage, her parents might have been lauded more widely as examples to be emulated.
justdrew wrote:Eden Wood
something needs to be done about "parents" exploiting their own children. Do these monsters know what the word Patootie means? They must. Anyway, I'm not posting a link to this horror show but take the name to youtube and prepare yourself.
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