9/11 Foreshadowed by X-Files' "Lone Gunmen"?

[FourthBase]

I had a series of dreams that year pre-9/11 in which we were being invaded by another country's air force. I remember the sick feeling (in the dream) of seeing a sky full of planes, and then seeing them land in my hometown Southie. The country turned out to be Japan, and Americans were rounded up by Japanese soldiers and herded aboard MBTA trains like POWs. The trains were outfitted with televisions which aired Japanese propaganda urging Americans to submit, and the best part: Sting was leading the propaganda.

Hmmm...dream thread.

[Seventhsonjr]

Inoculation


inoculate, inoculating, inoculated
1. To communicate a disease by inoculation.
2. To bud; to insert, or graft, as the bud of a tree or plant in another tree or plant.
3. To insert a foreign bud into; as, to inoculate a tree.
4. To communicate a disease to (a person) by inserting infectious matter in the skin or flesh; such as, to inoculate a person with the virus of smallpox, rabies, etc.
5. To introduce into the mind; used especially of harmful ideas or principles.
6. To imbue; such as, to inoculate someone with treason or infidelity.
7. Etymology: from Latin inoculatus, past participle of inoculare "to ingraft"; in-, "in, on" + oculare "to furnish with eyes", from oculus, "an eye"; also, "a bud".
inoculation
1. Taking a vaccine as a precaution against contracting a disease.
2. Introduction of material (usually a vaccine) into the tissues.
3. A mode of entry of bacteria into the body.
4. The act or an instance of inoculating, especially the introduction of an antigenic substance or vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.
5. Informal, a preemptive advertising tactic in which one party attempts to foresee and neutralize potentially damaging criticism from another party by being the first to confront troublesome issues.

http://www.wordinfo.info/words/index/in ... 2&letter=O



This classic Rovian technique has been used (and especially was effective in the discrediting of ongoing CT's especially in The "X Files" with respect to the secret government of fascists manipualting things and is currrent today with "Heroes") repeatedly to discredit any idea that our government and the BFEE especially is tied into the Nazi/Fascist Fourth Reich/New World Order.

In the episode the Twin Towers are the target. The purpose is to enable the secret fascists in government/military/intel to blame the act on "terrorists" and bring about a suspension of liberties etc. in a scenario which completely ridicules the "Lone Gunmen" as credible. It appeals to folks like me who believe in conspiracies of the BFEE/Nazis but is in such a ridiculous scenario that the very idea discredits the idea for the masses (not that it worked, really, given folks' opinions of 9-1 today on the facts).

Rove's most famous effort in this regard prior to 9-11 was, not uncoincidentally, a plot to inoculate the public against the idea that Bush was a cokehead who had been busted in Texas and had to do community service. That story was fed to the late James Hatfield (but with false facts) who already had a shakey reputation as an excon convicted of, I believe, conspiracy to commit murder. The false fatc made the whole story and Hatgfield totally discreditted (even though it was true. Hatfield was brought to the boonies by Rove and two others in the Bush white house and fed the facts and then fed false facts about the judge involved in the sentencing . St. Martin Press cancelled the book and 60 minutes ran a hit piece on Hatfield when they had planned to blow thew whole story open prior to the 2000 election (which might have buried Bush).

Hatfield was almost destoryed by this. The story was discreditted because the messenger was unreliable (not because the actual core facts were untrue).


The tactic may also have been used using Hatfield as a sucker for a leaked story (and he said as much) Hatfield wrote in July 2001 about Osama planning a "james Bond-like aerial attack" on American targets (including Bush) with remote controlled planes laden with explosives which Hatfield suggested was a fake CIA leak designed to boost Bush's sagging poll numbers in the summer of 2001.

Two weeks later cops showed up at Hatfield's home. Seized his computer and seized him as well as taking him away and confiscating other documents from his home. The next day he was found dead in a hotel room after writing 5 suicide notes (including one the the cop who let him "go" so he could kill himself with drugs and booze). I thinkhe was given a "Rommels choice" and he did it to save his wife and infant daughter from execution (kill yourself or we slaughter your entire family).

A quick google using "James Hatfield", Bush and Osama will bring you to the online jlournal article about the attacks which Hatfield learned about from intel sources in Europe and wrote about on July 3 2001. Dead two weeks later. Suicided.

Dan Rather (who himself was a useful tool when he was the only reporter who got to see and report on the original Zapruder film with the frames reversed to show JFK's head blowing backwards after the first shot (frames reversed) became another famous victim of inoculatioin when his report on Bush and the National Guard awol story was "verified" with doctored documents which discreditted Rather and the whole story (bad typewriter!!! - unlike Nixon and the typewriter he had in the alger hiss case proving that Hiss was a spy (not), the BFEE is not to original but they are effective). Rather may have fallen on his sword (he is filthy rich already) to help his mentors from the JFK days and pump up his "liberal" creds LOL)


The NSA fed stories to the X Files and also to the Lone Gunman. This story is allegedly original and relatively a no brainer given all the circumstances. The series was cancelled after one season. Nobody watched it - it sucked pretty bad - and the three wise men were snuffed in a valiant effort to stop a mass bioattack which might have killed off millions (another inoculation - this time a fairly lone nut - what they now call "a lone wolf" terrorist - a scientist I believe).


9-11 was an inside job with a handful of ops who could handle the remote flying into all the targets. It may be that EMP (like with wellstone) was used to take down the flight in Pennsy because the passengers DID revolt and if they had gotten into the cockpit the fact that it was a remote flight (and not the hapless patsy Saudi strip club goers flying the plane) would have been clear (as it becomes clear in the lone gunman episode).

All the dumbass saudis thought they had to do was get into the cockpit and fly to wherever they were told to once they killed to pilots and loked the cockpit. They probably had no fucking idea what was happening when the planes began to fly themselves. That is why all they needed was boxcutters. That way the blame would fall on them and no one (except those with Cheney's clearance) even had to know who was flying the planes.


Inoculation.

Keep your eye out for it. It is one of the most brilliant black psyops ever invented.

[8bitagent]

This classic Rovian technique has been used (and especially was effective in the discrediting of ongoing CT's especially in The "X Files" with respect to the secret government of fascists manipualting things and is currrent today with "Heroes") repeatedly to discredit any idea that our government and the BFEE especially is tied into the Nazi/Fascist Fourth Reich/New World Order.

In the episode the Twin Towers are the target. The purpose is to enable the secret fascists in government/military/intel to blame the act on "terrorists" and bring about a suspension of liberties etc. in a scenario which completely ridicules the "Lone Gunmen" as credible. It appeals to folks like me who believe in conspiracies of the BFEE/Nazis but is in such a ridiculous scenario that the very idea discredits the idea for the masses (not that it worked, really, given folks' opinions of 9-1 today on the facts).

Rove's most famous effort in this regard prior to 9-11 was, not uncoincidentally, a plot to inoculate the public against the idea that Bush was a cokehead who had been busted in Texas and had to do community service. That story was fed to the late James Hatfield (but with false facts) who already had a shakey reputation as an excon convicted of, I believe, conspiracy to commit murder. The false fatc made the whole story and Hatgfield totally discreditted (even though it was true. Hatfield was brought to the boonies by Rove and two others in the Bush white house and fed the facts and then fed false facts about the judge involved in the sentencing . St. Martin Press cancelled the book and 60 minutes ran a hit piece on Hatfield when they had planned to blow thew whole story open prior to the 2000 election (which might have buried Bush).

Hatfield was almost destoryed by this. The story was discreditted because the messenger was unreliable (not because the actual core facts were untrue).

Like Rumsfeld pulling various "missile" references to the Pentagon and Shanksville, and the media hyping up the "4000 Jews stayed home" theories, then Bush saying "let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories"

By pushing absurd and anti semetic theories, the elite were able to make even the up and arms left activists in America be convinced 9/11 was just some angry Muslims.

So yeah, I totally understand what you're saying about preemptive gestures.

[Seventhsonjr]

The WASP elites have successfully used this card from the advent of the fictitious Protocols of Zion globally to divert our attention away from the actual perps.

Lefties fall for it all the time, unfortunately - even here.

It is often a subliminally injected theory or allusion like a magicians trick.

OH - it was the damn ZIONISTS who engineered this bullshyte (not).

Unfotunately too there are enough socalled Zionists who are simply fascists in collusion with the WASP elites for their own power trip[s and self gratification - whether power or self aggrandizement or money. But inmho, someone who is truly committed to the ideal of Zionism in a spiritual sense would not have anything to do with the power elites who claim to represent Zionism while playing footsie and collaborating with the Nazis who hate and kill Israelis and Jews and who are behind the ethnic cleansing in Israel/Palestine.

Sure there are fundamentalist zealots at play who may not even know they are tools of the WASP elites. But they are on both sides in these conflicts and are not in any leadership positions with very few exceptions.

The Protocosl may be one of the first globally "effective" inoculation. Lies about Zionism may be one of the most globally effective to distract away from what the true fascist are doing and who is in control of the NWO (ie the WASP BFEE).

[professorpan]

My experience.

On the night of September 10th, some friends of mine and I were all sitting around. We'd had a bit to drink, and possibly some had even partaken of herbal "relaxants," and were in an upbeat, "creative riffing" mode.

My friend Tod had met some people involved with a theatrical troupe in NYC called "Collective Unconscious." They had put on a show called "Alpha Victor Romeo," in which actors performed, verbatim, the last minutes of airplane crashes as picked up by the black box recorders. Pretty powerful stuff, performed against a stark set of an airplane cockpit.

We decided we'd like to invite the group to Baltimore. Tod had recently acquired a warehouse space, and he wanted to bring in some cutting-edge entertainment for a grand opening. We thought Collective Unconscious would be perfect.

The question was then when it should premier. Some other tangential thought from earlier had gotten us all fixated on the number 11. "How about November 11th?" Tod asked.

"Eleven eleven," I replied.

"I like the visual of that," Tod said. He held his arms up like the number eleven.

And on and on the conversation went. I wish I remembered more details. I know we discussed the symbolism of 9/11, since it was September 9th, but I can't remember the specifics.

Tod and his girlfriend crashed at my house that night. I woke up the next morning and went downstairs to find the two of them huddled around the tv.

"You're not gonna believe this," Tod said.

The first tower had just been hit.

It wasn't until later in the day that we made the connection to the previous night's conversation.

I can't help but think of Terence McKenna's description about how future events send synchronistic ripples back through time:

You can feel it. You can feel it in your own dreams. You can feel it in your own trips. You can feel that we're approaching the cusp of a catastrophe, and that beyond that cusp we are unrecognizable to ourselves. The wave of novelty that has rolled unbroken since the birth of the universe has now focussed and coalesced itself in our species. And if it seems unlikely to you that the world is about to transform itself, then think of it this way: think of a pond, and think of how if the surface of the pond begins to boil - that's the signal that some enormous protean form is about to break the surface of the pond and reveal itself. Human history IS the boiling of the pond surface of ordinary biology. We are flesh which has been caught in the grip of some kind of an attractor that lies ahead of us in time, and that is sculpting us to its ends...

[theeKultleeder]

I got in a bar fight one night. Just a few hours before leaving the house, I noticed a pimple developing right on the edge of my upper lip. I cursed it, because a pimple in that spot hurts.

Later, it wasn't a pimple anymore - it was a small cut where I had been punched in the face; there was no trace of a pimple. I thought that, maybe, my body knew what was going to happen that night before my mind did. Before it actually happened.

And woo-woo, the moon was full, too.

[professorpan]

I wrote this in a long-ago thread about this topic:

http://rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?t=6698

Thanks, DE, I'd forgotten about that one.

Let's not forget about the $20 bill:

www.glennbeck.com/news/05172002.shtml

We can take all the examples of images that resonated (sometimes dramatically) with the WTC attack and come to several different conclusions.

One -- The Coup, Steve Jackson Games, The Lone Gunmen Pilot, and the creators of the $20 bill were privy to the 9/11 plot and embedded clues in diverse places. (Evidence? None)

Two -- Some of the above were in on the plot, some are coincidences. (Evidence? None)

Three -- It's all coincidence, synchronicity, Sheldrakian morphogenic fields, etc. (Some historical evidence)

Four -- The WTC towers are obvious symbolic targets of Western Capitalism/Imperalism/Consumerism/Whateverism, towering above arguably the most important and influential city on the planet. The idea of terrorists attacking major targets in the U.S. has been on the public radar screen for a decades, and the WTC was attacked by a bomb in 1993. (All assertions supported by evidence)

The idea that the U.S. government is not to be trusted, and would attack its own citizens to achieve dark aims related to a New World Order, has also been in the public consciousness, particularly in the realm of conspiracy researchers and (in the 90s) right wing militia groups. (Abundant evidence)

Creative artists (game designer Steve Jackson, rap group The Coup, the writers of the X-Files and Lone Gunmen), with their radar tuned to various conspiracy themes and ideas and current/contemporary history, independently create imagery showing the destruction of an obvious target of terrorists.

The writers of the Lone Gunmen pilot episode -- creative artists working in the field of conspiracy-themed entertainment -- come up with the idea of a secret cabal flying a remote-controlled plane into the WTC. After 9/11, X-Files and Lone Gunmen producer Frank Spotnitz says:

"That was such a disturbing thing. It was very upsetting. As I say in the DVD featurette, you write something like that, and you assume that if you can think of it, being a Hollywood writer, then somebody in the government has thought about it already."

And of course, people in the government *had* thought about it.

--

www.usatoday.com/news/was...orad_x.htm

In the two years before the Sept. 11 attacks, the North American Aerospace Defense Command conducted exercises simulating what the White House says was unimaginable at the time: hijacked airliners used as weapons to crash into targets and cause mass casualties.
One of the imagined targets was the World Trade Center. In another exercise, jets performed a mock shootdown over the Atlantic Ocean of a jet supposedly laden with chemical poisons headed toward a target in the United States. In a third scenario, the target was the Pentagon — but that drill was not run after Defense officials said it was unrealistic, NORAD and Defense officials say.

--

And one last thing -- whoever you believe destroyed the WTC towers *picked them* for a reason. They were not selected randomly.

So take your pick of explanations. The obvious choice, supported by evidence, is that the iconic towers have been considered terrorist targets by many people pre-9/11, and, in fact, were bombed only 8 years before 9/11. It's to be expected that images and narratives about an attack on them would be found in art, especially anti-Capitalist or conspiracy-themed art.

[IanEye]

sorry Pan, but when i saw you post that Glenn Beck link I had to bring up this one:

http://www.shoutwire.com/viewstory/22145/There_Is_No_9_11_Conspiracy_You_Morons



not that I agree with the website's take on 9/11, but the ragging on Beck is funny.....

[professorpan]

sorry Pan, but when i saw you post that Glenn Beck link I had to bring up this one:

Bwhahaha! Ain't it the truth....

[FourthBase]

We can take all the examples of images that resonated (sometimes dramatically) with the WTC attack and come to several different conclusions.

One -- The Coup, Steve Jackson Games, The Lone Gunmen Pilot, and the creators of the $20 bill were privy to the 9/11 plot and embedded clues in diverse places. (Evidence? None)

Two -- Some of the above were in on the plot, some are coincidences. (Evidence? None)

Three -- It's all coincidence, synchronicity, Sheldrakian morphogenic fields, etc. (Some historical evidence)

Four -- The WTC towers are obvious symbolic targets of Western Capitalism/Imperalism/Consumerism/Whateverism, towering above arguably the most important and influential city on the planet. The idea of terrorists attacking major targets in the U.S. has been on the public radar screen for a decades, and the WTC was attacked by a bomb in 1993. (All assertions supported by evidence)

The idea that the U.S. government is not to be trusted, and would attack its own citizens to achieve dark aims related to a New World Order, has also been in the public consciousness, particularly in the realm of conspiracy researchers and (in the 90s) right wing militia groups. (Abundant evidence)

Creative artists (game designer Steve Jackson, rap group The Coup, the writers of the X-Files and Lone Gunmen), with their radar tuned to various conspiracy themes and ideas and current/contemporary history, independently create imagery showing the destruction of an obvious target of terrorists.

The writers of the Lone Gunmen pilot episode -- creative artists working in the field of conspiracy-themed entertainment -- come up with the idea of a secret cabal flying a remote-controlled plane into the WTC. After 9/11, X-Files and Lone Gunmen producer Frank Spotnitz says:

"That was such a disturbing thing. It was very upsetting. As I say in the DVD featurette, you write something like that, and you assume that if you can think of it, being a Hollywood writer, then somebody in the government has thought about it already."

And of course, people in the government *had* thought about it.

Excuse me, but while I concede there are eons' worth of historical evidence for coincidence, how in the world is there anything that could be defined as "historical evidence" for synchronicity or morphogenic fields? When did either of those two phenomena get the seal of approval from the Department of Legitimacy?

The fourth set of conclusions are the most obviously legitimate ones. But I still insist that that government agents (FBI and DoD if I remember correctly) helping to come up with stories and plots for X-Files shows is a fact worthy of consideration.

[professorpan]

Excuse me, but while I concede there are eons' worth of historical evidence for coincidence, how in the world is there anything that could be defined as "historical evidence" for synchronicity or morphogenic fields? When did either of those two phenomena get the seal of approval from the Department of Legitimacy?

There can be no denying that incredible coincidences happen. Synchronicity is just one term to explain their factual existence -- ditto morphogenic fields.

My point is that seemingly incredible coincidences happen, and are documented -- regardless of how you explain them.

Sorry if the semantics threw you for a loop -- I should have been more clear.

[Seventhsonjr]

That certain members of such groups have infiltrated or collude with Hollywood's elite writers, directors, actors or production designers to communicate their goals to each other is undisputed given that Hollywood has amended scripts, altered storylines and revised history at the behest of government, military and intelligence officials (Campbell 29 August 2001). Even now, controversy surrounds the pilot episode of Chris Carter's The X-Files spin-off The Lone Gunmen wherein a secret faction of the US government, posing as foreign terrorists, hijacks a commercial airliner by remote control and targets the World Trade Centre (Killtown 30 January 2005). Written by Vince Gilligan, John Shiban and Frank Spotnitz would it be farfetched to suppose that one or more contributors to the show had inside information?

In a recent series of interviews with Alex Jones Prison Planet Dean Haglund, who played the role of Richard 'Ringo' Langly in The X-Files and The Lone Gunmen, revealed that the writers of these shows had links to the FBI and NASA, who supplied material for their show (Jones 17 December 2004 00:15:39-00:15:56). He also asserted that for the past twenty years the CIA has hired informants to attend Hollywood functions for conveying trends and concerns and related his encounter with one such informant who works as a psychic in Hollywood:

“She was at a Hollywood party where Chris Carter was standing in the corner in a tuxedo looking very out of place. And she went up to him and said, 'Whatever you're working on right now is going to make you millions of dollars'. And it was just before he started The X-Files. So she was a psychic who predicted the success of The X-Files not knowing what the project was or who he was. And then when I asked her, 'What were you doing at the Hollywood party?' she said that she was working for the CIA and that she would get e-mails telling her to go to this party and that party. And there'd be swanky affairs in the Hollywood hills and her name would always be on the guest list (she never knew how that happened). And then she would just go hang out at the party, and then at the end of the night go back and e-mail what she talked about. And she didn't really know where the e-mail went or who this person was, but then she would get a cheque. And it turns out that was the CIA and they were just, you know, keeping tabs on what was being talked about at Hollywood parties with the producers and the creators because film is one of the, you know, major foreign policy tools that are out there….”

- Jones, 17 December 2004,

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:O7 ... s&ie=UTF-8

[FourthBase]

That certain members of such groups have infiltrated or collude with Hollywood's elite writers, directors, actors or production designers to communicate their goals to each other is undisputed given that Hollywood has amended scripts, altered storylines and revised history at the behest of government, military and intelligence officials (Campbell 29 August 2001). Even now, controversy surrounds the pilot episode of Chris Carter's The X-Files spin-off The Lone Gunmen wherein a secret faction of the US government, posing as foreign terrorists, hijacks a commercial airliner by remote control and targets the World Trade Centre (Killtown 30 January 2005). Written by Vince Gilligan, John Shiban and Frank Spotnitz would it be farfetched to suppose that one or more contributors to the show had inside information?

In a recent series of interviews with Alex Jones Prison Planet Dean Haglund, who played the role of Richard 'Ringo' Langly in The X-Files and The Lone Gunmen, revealed that the writers of these shows had links to the FBI and NASA, who supplied material for their show (Jones 17 December 2004 00:15:39-00:15:56). He also asserted that for the past twenty years the CIA has hired informants to attend Hollywood functions for conveying trends and concerns and related his encounter with one such informant who works as a psychic in Hollywood:

“She was at a Hollywood party where Chris Carter was standing in the corner in a tuxedo looking very out of place. And she went up to him and said, 'Whatever you're working on right now is going to make you millions of dollars'. And it was just before he started The X-Files. So she was a psychic who predicted the success of The X-Files not knowing what the project was or who he was. And then when I asked her, 'What were you doing at the Hollywood party?' she said that she was working for the CIA and that she would get e-mails telling her to go to this party and that party. And there'd be swanky affairs in the Hollywood hills and her name would always be on the guest list (she never knew how that happened). And then she would just go hang out at the party, and then at the end of the night go back and e-mail what she talked about. And she didn't really know where the e-mail went or who this person was, but then she would get a cheque. And it turns out that was the CIA and they were just, you know, keeping tabs on what was being talked about at Hollywood parties with the producers and the creators because film is one of the, you know, major foreign policy tools that are out there….”

- Jones, 17 December 2004,

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:O7 ... s&ie=UTF-8

A good stripper's name for that woman would be "Synchronicity".

[theeKultleeder]

It's all fine and dandy, but if the Lone Gunmen episode was designed to do something, what did it do?

What did it do?

How often does someone say "You just saw that on x-files, etc" when you bring up a 9-11 argument? In all the mentions of Northwoods connected to 9-11, I have never seen anyone mention the Lone Gunmen.

And for that matter, is the "Lone Gunmen" more than a clever pun? Isn't a wink and a nod, a mainstream admittance of the reality of the JFK assassination?

The Gunmen were never portrayed as anything but earnest and honorable seekers after justice. On top of that, they were smart and connected, if quirky.

Good memes, in my head.

[parel]

That long link has rendered the entire page unreadable.... shame, because it's an interesting discussion.