Jeb Bush Is All In My House With Disease

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Re: Jeb Bush Is All In My House With Disease

Postby zangtang » Sat Apr 18, 2015 10:34 am

can't recall where i read that he was at Bob Marleys house the day before Bob Marley died of cancer of the big toe......

anybody else remember that?.....just another smear, no doubt..............
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Re: Jeb Bush Is All In My House With Disease

Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:25 pm

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That was Neil Bush. John Judge talks about that, as well as Jeb's connections with Miami drug dealers here:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XSrDXbyjAo
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Re: Jeb Bush Is All In My House With Disease

Postby zangtang » Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:46 pm

one too many bushes for my bwain to compwehend......
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Re: Jeb Bush Is All In My House With Disease

Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:38 pm

I think of them like the Corleone family. Poppy is Don Vito and Babs is Mama Corleone. Dubya is Sonny, Neil is Fredo. Jeb is Michael, the "smart one", so I find him the scariest. Especially with his PNAC creds.

Jeb Bush's burden

He backed his brother's wars. Now he's listening to George W.'s advisers, too.

By Michael Crowley

1/5/15 8:47 PM EDT

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In the late 1990s, a group of conservatives issued a manifesto calling for a stronger, “Reaganite” American foreign policy. The 25 signatories to the founding statement of the Project for the New American Century — a new think tank urging larger defense budgets, democracy promotion and bolder American leadership — consisted of several leaders of the emerging neoconservative movement, including Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, Lewis “Scooter” Libby and Bill Kristol.

One signer stood out for his near-total lack of foreign policy experience: Jeb Bush, then a candidate for Florida governor.

But when the same group sent a letter the following year to President Bill Clinton, calling for the ouster of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein, Bush’s name was absent. And as the group’s founders pressed for war with Iraq after Sept. 11, 2001, Bush played no visible role.

What that might say about Bush’s foreign policy philosophy is unclear. But as he gears up for a 2016 presidential run, Bush’s rivals and supporters alike are studying such tea leaves for insight into his worldview. As Florida governor, Bush compiled a long domestic record on issues like education and immigration. Yet at a moment when America is winding down one war and ramping up another, he remains untested and opaque when it comes to war and peace.

“It’s fair to say that Jeb’s views on foreign policy are still in some level of formation. He’s a former governor, and he doesn’t have foreign policy experience that people can easily point to,” said Ari Fleischer, a former spokesman for the George W. Bush White House.

But, Fleischer adds, there are some signs of a philosophy: “It seems as if he will come out of the more muscular peace-through-strength wing of the party,” Fleischer said.

Indeed, some of Bush’s most important allies within the GOP foreign policy establishment are closely associated with his brother, whose name is almost synonymous with a war in Iraq that most Americans call a mistake.

Jeb Bush’s allies include former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, who is a board member of an education foundation Bush chairs, and with whom he is personally close. And soon after leaving office in 2009, Cheney, who cares most about national security, told Fox News that he is “a big fan of Jeb’s.” Bush has also impressed one of the GOP’s wealthiest donors, the hawkish casino magnate Sheldon Adelson.

Conservative foreign policy insiders say that what’s known about Bush’s views places him in the dominant interventionist wing of his party, which is still shaped by his co-signatories on the 1997 Project for the New American Century document. He has challenged the anti-interventionist views of Sen. Rand Paul and his supporters.

But those conservatives also note that while Jeb’s brother, George W., is remembered for a controversially bold foreign policy, his father, former President George H.W. Bush, charted a more pragmatic approach. The elder Bush, for instance, did not act to remove Saddam from power after expelling him from Kuwait in the 1991 Gulf War.

Jeb Bush is “a traditional Republican internationalist,” says Gary Schmitt, a scholar at the American Enterprise Institute and a founder of the Project for the New American Century. “I don’t think there’s anything out of the mainstream of that part of the party.”

Still, Bush could face a unique challenge in his direct relation to the president who waged a hugely unpopular war in Iraq.

While George W. Bush’s poll numbers have risen since he left office, public opinion about his 2003 invasion of Iraq hasn’t budged. A mid-October NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll found that 66 percent of of those surveyed believe the Iraq War was “not worth it.”

After signing the Project for the New American Century’s 1997 founding principles, Bush had no visible role as the group’s leaders pressed in subsequent years for a U.S. showdown with Saddam. (Schmitt downplayed the significance of Bush’s signature on the founding document. “I don’t know if that tells you very much,” he said.)

And during his brother’s presidency, Jeb Bush largely avoided the explosive politics of the Iraq War.

But not entirely. In April 2006, Bush joined three other governors to visit U.S. troops in Iraq, where he called progress in the country “undeniable,” even as Iraq descended into civil war.

Yet Bush qualified his support for the endeavor, adding: “In a mission this ambitious, and this extensive, is it possible that mistakes were made? Of course, it is. After the fact, it’s easy to harp and to criticize, and, frankly, people have the right to do it.”

His more recent public remarks on the war have been less equivocal, however.

“A lot of things in history change over time. I think people will respect the resolve that my brother showed, both in defending the country and the war in Iraq,” Bush told CNN in March 2013.

Walking a line between support for his brother, still popular among Republicans, and distancing himself from his more unpopular policies, will be one of Jeb Bush’s main challenges, says Peter Feaver, a George W. Bush White House national security aide who focused on Iraq.

“I think any Republican is going to have to figure out how to talk about the [George W.] Bush presidency — both domestic policy and foreign — in a way that does not divide the party and does not play into Democratic critiques. And also to make it clear that they’re their own person, and they are confronting the world as it is in 2016 and not merely stuck in 2002,” Feaver said.

“Jeb’s challenge is a little different because of his last name. But in some sense, he has more running room because of that — he can offer criticisms without being accused of disloyalty,” Feaver added.

For the moment, Bush has refrained from analyzing his own party and stuck to attacks on President Barack Obama. He has mocked Obama’s so-called leading from behind strategy and called for a stronger U.S. alliance with Israel and a tougher stance on Iran. All were familiar talking points in Mitt Romney’s 2012 presidential campaign.

Bush sounded similar themes in a March address to a meeting of Adelson’s Republican Jewish Coalition, where he assailed Obama as passive and warned conservatives against the temptation of withdrawal from the world. Bush also met privately with Adelson and satisfied him on the issue he and his wife hold most dear.

“The Adelsons are confident that Jeb Bush is an advocate for Israel,” says a source close to the couple.

More recently, in a Dec. 2 speech to a Florida group that backs democracy in Cuba, Bush said Obama has “retrenched” abroad, with dangerous consequences.

“In this unstable and uncertain world, the United States has actually played a part in creating greater instability and greater unraveling,” Bush told the U.S. Cuba Democracy PAC.

Bush did offer one kind word for the president. “Thankfully, I think he’s seen the light in Afghanistan,” Bush said, an apparent reference to Obama’s recent extension of some U.S. combat operations there. But he added that withdrawing troops from the country “simply because it is politically expedient is the wrong thing to do.”

In the same remarks, Bush suggested that a hasty exit created the current crisis in Iraq. Some Republicans think the rise of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant offers Bush a potent comeback against assaults on his brother’s legacy.

And they note that the most likely Democratic nominee, Hillary Clinton, will be constrained in her discussion of Iraq by her 2002 Senate vote to authorize military force against Saddam’s regime.

Even so, Democrats would be sure to hang Jeb Bush’s brother’s unpopular foreign policy legacy around his neck. In response to Bush’s December remarks in Florida, the Democratic National Committee chairwoman, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, said Obama had restored America’s standing “after the disastrous foreign policy blunders of the George W. Bush administration.”

The same arguments may also come from within Bush’s own party, where Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul is harshly critical of U.S. intervention abroad and calls the Iraq War a colossal blunder.

Some conservatives say Bush could respond by invoking the legacy of his father, who presided over the mostly peaceful collapse of communism in Eastern Europe and built a diverse international coalition behind the Gulf War.

“The optimal Jeb Bush foreign policy would be something along the same principles as his brother George, but perhaps more savvy about carrying them out, with the hard-headedness of his father,” Schmitt said.

But Jeb Bush himself rejects the idea that his brother’s legacy presents any special problem. He addressed the question on “Fox News Sunday” in March 2013.

“I don’t think there’s any Bush baggage at all,” he said.
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Re: Jeb Bush Is All In My House With Disease

Postby PufPuf93 » Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:22 pm

1) The Family by Ed Sanders (hc with the Process Church included and a summary of the problem pasted in the front)

http://www.amazon.com/Family-Ed-Sanders ... ly+Sanders

2) The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power by Jeff Sharlet

http://www.amazon.com/Family-Secret-Fun ... ly+Sharlet

3) The Family: The Real Story of the Bush Dynasty by Kitty Kelly

http://www.amazon.com/Family-Real-Story ... Kelly+Bush

The winner as total horror story of the three is.......



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Re: Jeb Bush Is All In My House With Disease

Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:58 pm

Did someone say Family?

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If Sheldon Adelson isn't enough to make you queasy, these guys should empty your stomach with ease:

Koch brothers will offer audition to Jeb Bush

By Mike Allen

4/21/15 7:06 AM EDT

Charles and David Koch are considering throwing their massive wealth and sophisticated organization into the Republican presidential primary for the first time, a potentially game-changing boost that could make even a second-tier candidate instantly viable.

In another surprise, a top Koch aide revealed to POLITICO that Jeb Bush will be given a chance to audition for the brothers’ support, despite initial skepticism about him at the top of the Kochs’ growing political behemoth.

Sen. Marco Rubio, Sen. Rand Paul and Sen. Ted Cruz debated at the Koch network’s winter seminar in January, and Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker made a separate appearance. Those were the candidates who appeared to have a chance at the Koch blessing, and attendees said Rubio seemed to win that round.

But those four — plus Jeb – will be invited to the Kochs’ summer conference, the aide said. Bush is getting a second look because so many Koch supporters think he looks like a winner. Other candidates, perhaps Rick Perry or Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, may also get invitations.

The New York Times’ Nick Confessore reported Monday afternoon that David Koch had indicated the brothers favor Walker, citing remarks he made to donors who had just heard from the Wisconsin governor. The article runs on page A13 of the print edition: “G.O.P. Donors Signal a Favorite: Wisconsin Governor.”

This prompted an online frenzy, including the HuffPost banner, “KOCHS FIND THEIR MAN.”

Koch insiders dismissed that conclusion, saying the brothers have made similar comments about several of the candidates, and are far from settling on a favorite. “It’s really early, and a lot is going to happen,” the aide said. “We wouldn’t want to take options off the table by getting behind one of them now.”

David Koch said in a statement to POLITICO’s Ken Vogel: “While I think Gov. Walker is terrific … I am not endorsing or supporting any candidate for President at this point.”

As part of the Kochs’ screening process, favored candidates may also be invited to speak at a major gathering staged by the brothers’ network, such as an Americans for Prosperity summit. The brothers are likely to make a decision about whether to pick a horse many months from now, so that they have time to see how the candidates perform in debates, how they articulate issues the Kochs care about, and how strong a staff they have assembled.

The Kochs and their advisers will be looking for a candidate who is “solid on economic-freedom issues,” is “a passionate advocate for free markets,” and has “a positive, optimistic, pro-freedom message,” the aide said.

A candidate will get considerable extra credit for being on the brothers’ side of reauthorizing the Export-Import Bank, which Koch organizations are spending big to oppose.

The brothers are most likely to make a selection after the field has been winnowed to a few plausible candidates, perhaps giving their pick a boost against the establishment favorite.

The Kochs have resisted jumping into presidential primaries in the past because they questioned the value of the investment. But last cycle, they were left with Mitt Romney, who didn’t excite their network’s donors.

“It was a fait accompli,” the aide said. “Do you help out, or not? Relative to Obama? Sure. Do you want to be faced with that choice again? Probably not.”


Gotta love the naked honesty of the headline exposing who really runs shit. Auditioning. Reminds me of the Bill Hicks routine 'The Elite' on Rant in E Minor:

"I have this feeling man, 'cause you know, it's just a handful of people who run everything, you know … that's true, it's provable. It's not … I'm not a fucking conspiracy nut, it's provable. A handful, a very small elite, run and own these corporations, which include the mainstream media. I have this feeling that whoever is elected president, like Clinton was, no matter what you promise on the campaign trail – blah, blah, blah – when you win, you go into this smoke-filled room with the twelve industrialist capitalist scum-fucks who got you in there. And you're in this smoky room, and this little film screen comes down … and a big guy with a cigar goes, "Roll the film." And it's a shot of the Kennedy assassination from an angle you've never seen before … that looks suspiciously like it's from the grassy knoll. And then the screen goes up and the lights come up, and they go to the new president, "Any questions?" "Er, just what my agenda is." "First we bomb Baghdad." "You got it …"



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8IvKx0c19w
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Re: Hat Trick accomplished

Postby IanEye » Tue Apr 21, 2015 5:20 pm

PufPuf93 » Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:22 pm wrote:
The winner as total horror story of the three is.......



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Re: Jeb Bush Is All In My House With Disease

Postby temp-monitor » Wed Apr 22, 2015 12:41 am

Jeb Bush Is All In My House With Disease


Thought for sure this was a reference to PNAC's "genotype bioweapons" that Jeb endorsed:

In September 2000, Jeb Bush was a PNAC member who supported a call for "bioweapons that can ‘target” specific genotypes ... as a politically useful tool.”

September 2000: Neoconservative Think Tank Writes ‘Blueprint’ for ‘Global Pax Americana’

The neoconservative think tank Project for the New American Century writes a “blueprint” for the “creation of a ‘global Pax Americana’” (see June 3, 1997). The document, titled Rebuilding America’s Defenses: Strategies, Forces and Resources for a New Century, was written for the George W. Bush team even before the 2000 presidential election. It was written for future Vice President Cheney, future Defense Secretary Rumsfeld, future Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, Florida Governor and Bush’s brother Jeb Bush, and Cheney’s future chief of staff Lewis Libby. [Project for the New American Century, 9/2000, pp. iv and 51 pdf file]

Bioweapons Targeting Specific Genotypes 'Useful' - It also mentions that “advanced forms of biological warfare that can ‘target” specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool.


Useful reference tool: History Commons page on Jeb Bush:

http://www.historycommons.org/entity.js ... b_%29_bush
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Re: Hat Trick accomplished

Postby PufPuf93 » Wed Apr 22, 2015 4:10 pm

IanEye » Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:20 pm wrote:
PufPuf93 » Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:22 pm wrote:
The winner as total horror story of the three is.......






That is great! Thanks.

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Re: Jeb Bush Is All In My House With Disease

Postby 82_28 » Wed Apr 22, 2015 5:20 pm

I love how fake the conservatives are. I say this because it is obvious they are trying to emulate an emulation -- copy of a copy. I think the democrats are trying to stick with the tried and true. It is all bullshit, there is no doubt. However, I really enjoy watching their fake concerned and erudite faces. This country is hopeless.
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Re: Jeb Bush Is All In My House With Disease

Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Wed May 13, 2015 5:06 pm

While I've certainly been enjoying watching Jeb squirm around the quicksand he stepped in about whether he would or wouldn't have invaded Iraq, it's no laughing matter when you look at who he's turning to for foreign policy advice:

The Jeb Bush Adviser Who Should Scare You

on edit: You know what, fuck David Corn, I'll leave the link for those who want to read it, but I just found an article that talks about how Jeb Bush's foreign policy advisors overlap with those of his father and brother:

Jeb Bush’s foreign policy team is eerily familiar, in one Venn diagram

Here's the diagram:

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Very few names in that diagram don't scare me.
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Re: Jeb Bush Is All In My House With Disease

Postby brekin » Thu May 14, 2015 12:09 pm

Love the Corleone reference. The Bush family always struck me as the anti-Kennedy Bunch.

Poppy always gave me the creeps. He exudes some strange William Burroughs vibe more than William Burroughs. One of those 1920's straw hat depraved varsity cads, like Crispin Glover playing Jay Gatsby, a soft spoken strangler of cats.

His sons just seem like the bumpkin progeny of some nouveau riche accidental empire like a construction company or soybean agribusiness that took off because of some naughty-naughty deal that they were born into that they each try to not fuck up when they have to "manage". I know going back to Prescott Bush they are blue blooded, skullies and bonies, east coast Yale, etc but so much of the Bush's stance comes across as a bad mid western family dynasty mini-series.

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Re: Jeb Bush Is All In My House With Disease

Postby zangtang » Thu May 14, 2015 1:20 pm

'lil white-haired ole' lady.....'
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Re: Jeb Bush Is All In My House With Disease

Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Thu May 14, 2015 1:30 pm

brekin » Thu May 14, 2015 11:09 am wrote:Poppy always gave me the creeps. He exudes some strange William Burroughs vibe more than William Burroughs. One of those 1920's straw hat depraved varsity cads, like Crispin Glover playing Jay Gatsby, a soft spoken strangler of cats.


:lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

Alright, that really made me bust a gut. I could just picture Poppy in that straw hat leaning over, curling his finger and hissing, "Here, kit-ty, kit-ty, kit-ty!"
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Re: Jeb Bush Is All In My House With Disease

Postby zangtang » Thu May 14, 2015 3:34 pm

'yer father's waitin for yer in the toooolshed........'
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