All in "The Family"

[IanEye]

I was driving home the other night and as i was scanning the dial i caught an interview with Jeff Sharlet about his new book "The Family". The interview was on NPR's Marketplace (of all places). You can listen to it here:

http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2008/05/22/family_q/


i really want to get this book, if for no other reason than i will have a hat-trick of paranoia and deceit on my book shelf....

[brainpanhandler]

The Story of Charles Manson's Dune Buggy Attack Battalion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonderbug

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

I was driving home the other night and as i was scanning the dial i caught an interview with Jeff Sharlet about his new book "The Family". The interview was on NPR's Marketplace (of all places).

Keep an eye out here for NPR's shillfest- http://nprcheck.blogspot.com/

The president of NPR for the last ten years has been a guy from the State Department's Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty propaganda org.

Sanford Ungar, who used to host NPR's All Things Considered, spent two years as head of Voice of America.



NPR is a CIA/State Department propaganda venue for Americans which used to be just to co-opt the left but now is mainstream militarist, just like PBS with its 'Oswald's Ghost' disinfo and Ken Burns 'The War' pimping WWII during Vietnam II.

That's why in this year of the anniversary of CIA excesses in 1968 (MLK, RFK) we are getting reruns meant to discredit the 1960s and the anti-war counterculture with the Manson murders.

[IanEye]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonderbug

[brainpanhandler]

Sly and the Family Stone - Thank you

[IanEye]

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[Hugh Manatee Wins]

Nice cultural artifacts, IanEye.
I forgot about that 'Family' reality tv series, one of the first.

This 'f' word is the archetype for all ingroup/outgroup social engineering and is hijacked into promoting another 'f' word, fascism.

I think that, among other reasons, this is why spooks promote the Mafia family image to show the use of violence in service of 'family values' as normal and so part of national policy, too.

[IanEye]

Nice cultural artifacts, IanEye.
I forgot about that 'Family' reality tv series, one of the first.

This 'f' word is the archetype for all ingroup/outgroup social engineering and is hijacked into promoting another 'f' word, fascism.

I think that, among other reasons, this is why spooks promote the Mafia family image to show the use of violence in service of 'family values' as normal and so part of national policy, too.

Hugh, perhaps you mean An American Family which aired on PBS in the early '70s and focused on the Loud family. This show was quite groundbreaking in terms of American TV. It was also spoofed by Albert Brooks as Real Life.

The ABC show Family I think we could agree was an attempt to "quiet" the Loud Family. That is, make a drama that has the same appeal that "An American Family" had but without the chaos of reality encroaching on the nice tidy plotlines.

Personally, i think "Eight Is Enough" did a better job of this. But I am biased in this regard, because as a youth I thought Elizabeth, played by Connie Needham, was totally fucking hot.




as far as the Mafia goes, you are probably right, although I think the presence of Organized Crime in the consciousness of America is more complex.

Put it this way, I don't think it was an accident that Coppola released The Conversation between the two Godfather films.



Just as i don't think it is an accident that Godfather II is both prequel and sequel to the Godfather....

[IanEye]

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IanEye had just posted about The Family, too, barely a page ago, although it unfortunately seemed to devolve into KeywordHijacking or somesuch:

http://rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?t=17840

actually, that was all part of my plan. let my thread be the Family 'circus', so that this thread can get into the nitty gritty of Sharlet's book. carry on...

No, there wasn't any KWH in that thread and I want it noted that I was not involved in any alleged keyword hijacking discussion in that so-called circus which consisted almost entirely of IanEye posting imagery.

I only commented on the family psychology at the root of fascist ingroup/outgroup psyops. As I will again here.

Just like at the Pentagon, religious ingroups are promoted by USG social engineers for their authoritarian social cohesion, something that progressives need to find a way to replicate minus the authoritarian element. This is partly how the CIA networked to 'undo the sixties' and grow social antidotes to the virus of peace and justice, they greased the media rails for the Falwells and Robertsons of Christianity who would bypass that Sermon on the Mount stuff by Jesus-whatsis-name and instead promote wrathful smiting.

Moral activation that bonds progressives in solidarity instead of dividing them is critical to compete with the authoritarian fascist gang mindset.

Populism used to be enough when riled to rock power back on their hooves but sixty years of psy-ops culture has sown authoritarianism into the population and confused or diverted too many of the rest who still have critical faculties regarding power.

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so noted.

Also note that nowhere on this thread have i accused anyone of hijacking.

So far, things seems quite civil here.

Like a lot of the threads i start, i fully expect this one to get moved to the "Culture Studies' area at some point. i just like to start them in 'General Discussion' because i feel they get more initial notice here.

So, i find it interesting the way the concept of "Family" gets portrayed in the Media at large. Sharlet's book certainly fits into this thread, but I feel overall the thread is broader, thus, if someone has something to say about "The Addams Family" or the play "Cheaper By The Dozen", etc one can ruminate here.



Thanks.

[IanEye]

Sharlet's book came in the mail yesterday.

I have to finish the Willie Nelson book I am reading now, and then I'll dive into this one. It looks like a good read.

[AhabsOtherLeg]

as far as the Mafia goes, you are probably right, although I think the presence of Organized Crime in the consciousness of America is more complex.

And a lot older. I read a hilarious thing once saying that the first organised gangs in America were established by the Chinese, who brought their evil practices with them when they were draughted in to help build the railways.

Apparently the gangsters among them demanded a penny or less from their fellow migrant workers to make sure they didn't get beat up every day and night by the Irish and Germans, and whoever else happened to be around. And to a certain extent they did ensure the safety of their own, and earned their keep.

But, apparently, that was the birth of the protection racket as a criminal enterprise!

As if the men who planned and financed the building of the railways had never dreamed of threatening or exploiting anyone. As if Europe had never happened.

The gangster (and politician) thing about taking care of "family" is a sad and worthless plea. "I love my mother, I love my wife, I have provided for my kids."

That's only a reason for their mother, wife, and kids to be grateful.

Why should we care, if they've spent their whole career unrepentantly murdering ours?

[MinM]

Nice cultural artifacts, IanEye.
I forgot about that 'Family' reality tv series, one of the first.

This 'f' word is the archetype for all ingroup/outgroup social engineering and is hijacked into promoting another 'f' word, fascism.

I think that, among other reasons, this is why spooks promote the Mafia family image to show the use of violence in service of 'family values' as normal and so part of national policy, too.

Hugh, perhaps you mean An American Family which aired on PBS in the early '70s and focused on the Loud family. This show was quite groundbreaking in terms of American TV. It was also spoofed by Albert Brooks as Real Life.

The ABC show Family I think we could agree was an attempt to "quiet" the Loud Family. That is, make a drama that has the same appeal that "An American Family" had but without the chaos of reality encroaching on the nice tidy plotlines.

Personally, i think "Eight Is Enough" did a better job of this. But I am biased in this regard, because as a youth I thought Elizabeth, played by Connie Needham, was totally fucking hot.



as far as the Mafia goes, you are probably right, although I think the presence of Organized Crime in the consciousness of America is more complex.

Put it this way, I don't think it was an accident that Coppola released The Conversation between the two Godfather films.



Just as i don't think it is an accident that Godfather II is both prequel and sequel to the Godfather....

Speaking of "Eight Is Enough". There's a good thread about it's late Author-Spook-CNN talking head:

Thomas Braden CIA - The Education Forum

Timothy Leary told a reporter that watching Crossfire was like "watching the left wing of the CIA debating the right wing of the CIA".

[Perelandra]

I heard this interview the other day on Thom Hartmann's show about a new book out titled: "Family of Secrets". (I'm aware of Hugh's ideas about Hartmann).
http://airamerica.com/content/thom-hartmann-family-secrets
I'm not sure what to make of this. Hartmann seemed uncomfortable with the implied connection of Bush Sr. to JFK's death.

Russ Baker: Based on early feedback, I’d say there are a number of contenders. Could be the four chapters of never-before-revealed facts surrounding the JFK assassination. Or the evidence I have uncovered suggesting a new interpretation of Watergate. Some are most intrigued by the new examples of George W. as a naughty fellow and moral hypocrite — including on the matter of abortion. And some say that my examination of W.’s military service record is especially effective in settling the dispute over whether this eager-beaver “warrior king” skipped out on his own military obligations. Finally, some are most struck by the new evidence of a cynical calculation behind George W’s so-called religious rebirth.

For me, the big story is simply the cumulative sense, based on hundreds and hundreds of fresh facts, of the extent to which elites write our history. And the realization that, as we flee the Bush years, we remain utterly in the dark about so much.

http://russbaker.com/

[MinM]

I heard this interview the other day on Thom Hartmann's show about a new book out titled: "Family of Secrets". (I'm aware of Hugh's ideas about Hartmann).
http://airamerica.com/content/thom-hartmann-family-secrets
I'm not sure what to make of this. Hartmann seemed uncomfortable with the implied connection of Bush Sr. to JFK's death...

Thom Hartmann

Hartmann founded International Wholesale Travel and its retail subsidiary Sprayberry Travel in Atlanta in 1983, a business which in the intervening years has generated over a quarter of a billion dollars in revenue. He sold his share in the business in 1986 and retired with his family to Germany to work with the international relief organization Salem International[7]. In the late 1970s, he had been a trainer in advertising and marketing for The American Marketing Centers (now defunct), and in 1987 after returning from Germany founded the Atlanta advertising agency Chandler, MacDonald, Stout, Schneiderman & Poe, Inc., which did business as The Newsletter Factory[8]. In that capacity he did consulting work and training for over 400 of the Fortune 500 companies as well as the NSA, CIA, and other government agencies;[citation needed] he sold his interest in that company in 1996 and retired to Vermont. In the early 1970s, he co-founded The Woodley Herber Company, which sold herbal products, potpourris and teas, and closed operations in 1978 when he moved to New Hampshire to begin The New England Salem Children's Village[9], which still operates in Rumney, New Hampshire. He was Executive Director of NESCT for five years, and on its board for over 25 years. NESCT's child-care model was based on that of the German Salem International organization, and through his affiliation with that group he helped start international relief programs in Uganda, Colombia, Russia, Israel, India, Australia, and several other countries between 1979 and today...

Trained in the 1970s in Neuro-Linguistic Programming by Richard Bandler (Hartmann is licensed by Bandler's Society of NLP as both an NLP Practitioner and an NLP Trainer, and Bandler wrote the foreword to his book "Healing ADD"), Hartmann popularized some of its concepts in Cracking the Code (2007), which argues that Newt Gingrich and Frank Luntz made use of them in the 1980s and 1990s for Republican Party causes and advocates using them to advance liberalism. His book "Healing ADD" also leans heavily on NLP techniques. His book on the JFK Assassination (written with Lamar Waldron) titled "Ultimate Sacrifice" is cited extensively in the last two chapters of Gore Vidal's recent autobiography as having "finally solved" that case...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thom_Hartmann

RI - Eleventh Hour (new series)

RI - 1/2/08 10:40PST Thom Hartmann lying JKF-MLK

DU | Who's the asshat on Hartmann's show right now?

http://rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?t=15378

[MinM]

"Family Feud" Eight Is Enough vs. Family (1978)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxeP90cvaZ4
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1226033/


Willie Aames, Cash-Strapped Former TV Star, Holds Garage Sale

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/2 ... 79917.html