United Health Care Shooting (PSYOP/ARG/ETC.?)

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Re: United Health Care Shooting (PSYOP/ARG/ETC.?)

Postby SonicG » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:29 pm

Thanks for that overview Bellige...
>> luigi’s last known address was in hawaii. how does he suddenly turn up in nyc?
>> uses a fake id to check into a hostel near the crime scene—how convenient
>> goes *from hawaii to nyc to pennsylvania* in a matter of days
>> gets caught at a mcdonald’s after a nationwide manhunt. really?

This will have to be cleared up, or not, but at his bail hearing, he was vague about his current domicile and then there is this:

Weeks before UnitedHealthcare shooting, suspect was reported missing to SFPD
Luigi Mangione, the 26-year-old identified as a “strong person of interest” in last week’s slaying of a health insurance executive on the streets of Manhattan, was reported missing to San Francisco police last month, The Standard has learned.

His mother, Kathleen Mangione, made the report to the San Francisco Police Department on Nov. 18, according to a police source with knowledge of the case. It wasn’t immediately clear whether Mangione had been in San Francisco or if his mother had reason to believe he was.

His mother thinks he is "missing" and then doesn't recognize him in those first photos?
Also, originally there was talk that he had come from Atlanta - which is a long ride for someone with severe back pain but now the story is:
The inbound bus originated in Atlanta but it was not immediately clear where the suspect boarded. The sources said he was spotted on board in Washington, D.C., so he boarded there or somewhere between D.C. and Atlanta.


Also this "I am a patsy" 2024 version (?)
Luigi Mangione on his way to his extradition hearing shouts: "This is completely out of touch (unjust?) and an insult to the intelligence of the American people and the lived experience"

https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/sta ... 0403361045

Klippenstein has also published what he claims is the real "manifesto" (more like a short note written after the murder):
“To the Feds, I'll keep this short, because I do respect what you do for our country. To save you a lengthy investigation, I state plainly that I wasn't working with anyone. This was fairly trivial: some elementary social engineering, basic CAD, a lot of patience. The spiral notebook, if present, has some straggling notes and To Do lists that illuminate the gist of it. My tech is pretty locked down because I work in engineering so probably not much info there. I do apologize for any strife of traumas but it had to be done. Frankly, these parasites simply had it coming. A reminder: the US has the #1 most expensive healthcare system in the world, yet we rank roughly #42 in life expectancy. United is the [indecipherable] largest company in the US by market cap, behind only Apple, Google, Walmart. It has grown and grown, but as our life expectancy? No the reality is, these [indecipherable] have simply gotten too powerful, and they continue to abuse our country for immense profit because the American public has allwed them to get away with it. Obviously the problem is more complex, but I do not have space, and frankly I do not pretend to be the most qualified person to lay out the full argument. But many have illuminated the corruption and greed (e.g.: Rosenthal, Moore), decades ago and the problems simply remain. It is not an issue of awareness at this point, but clearly power games at play. Evidently I am the first to face it with such brutal honesty.”

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Re: United Health Care Shooting (PSYOP/ARG/ETC.?)

Postby SonicG » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:40 pm

Harvey » Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:03 am wrote:The Hawaii connection, again. I recently read Mind Games by David Whelan because since 2020 (like Whelan) I'd been interested to find out whether Mark Chapman's stay at a mental hospital in Hawaii had any kind of 'mind control' history to it, but I didn't get very far. Whelan is a former TV producer and better at getting to the data than I am. And indeed it did. Then there's Trump Assassin No 2...


And some are pointing to his time in Japan as well...

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Re: United Health Care Shooting (PSYOP/ARG/ETC.?)

Postby Grizzly » Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:42 pm

The police and FBI used mass surveillance to find the CEO killer and will do anything to try to cover that fact up?
https://pointjupiter.com/work/mcdonalds/

“The goal of the project was to introduce state-of-the-art face recognition technology to McDonald’s. Face recognition can offer many benefits, for the company itself and for the customers. The technology uses a facial recognition system that can find out the person sex, age, even sentiment. Those findings can be used in various ways. Statistical data and advanced meal recommendation systems are just some of the proposed use cases.”
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Re: United Health Care Shooting (PSYOP/ARG/ETC.?)

Postby SonicG » Thu Dec 12, 2024 7:09 am

even sentiment

All fed into AI...in the future both workers and customers will be automated bots as everyone just sits at home eating Government-provided Soylent Green crackers wtf...

It's so a propos that even if a customer did actually snitch on our Brother in Christ

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You can't kill cops or the government to protest this shitty ripoff though now can you?
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Re: United Health Care Shooting (PSYOP/ARG/ETC.?)

Postby liminalOyster » Thu Dec 12, 2024 1:24 pm

Grizzly » Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:42 pm wrote:The police and FBI used mass surveillance to find the CEO killer and will do anything to try to cover that fact up?
https://pointjupiter.com/work/mcdonalds/

“The goal of the project was to introduce state-of-the-art face recognition technology to McDonald’s. Face recognition can offer many benefits, for the company itself and for the customers. The technology uses a facial recognition system that can find out the person sex, age, even sentiment. Those findings can be used in various ways. Statistical data and advanced meal recommendation systems are just some of the proposed use cases.”


Damn. Nice find.

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Re: United Health Care Shooting (PSYOP/ARG/ETC.?)

Postby Grizzly » Fri Dec 13, 2024 11:22 pm

https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/luigi-mangione-sfpd-identification-19976578.php
Sources: San Francisco police identified Luigi Mangione 4 days before arrest at McDonald’s

"This is right out of the movie JFK, where they had sightings of Oswald in different places."



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Re: United Health Care Shooting (PSYOP/ARG/ETC.?)

Postby Grizzly » Sat Dec 14, 2024 8:01 pm

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Re: United Health Care Shooting (PSYOP/ARG/ETC.?)

Postby stickdog99 » Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:36 pm

https://wethefree.substack.com/p/a-majo ... -major-doj

In February a major healthcare hack exposed the personal and medical data of over 100 million individuals and sent shockwaves through the industry. UnitedHealthcare, as one of the largest players, was at the center of this crisis. The timing of the hack—just as the DOJ intensified its antitrust scrutiny of UnitedHealthcare—raises the possibility of a coordinated campaign targeting the healthcare system’s perceived inefficiencies and corporate greed.

If sensitive internal communications or financial data related to Brian Thompson or his company were among the stolen files, the hack could have intensified existing tensions, making Thompson a high-value target.

The DOJ investigation into UnitedHealthcare’s alleged antitrust violations and insider trading already placed significant pressure on Thompson and his company. The lawsuit alleging insider trading against Thompson, particularly regarding his $15.1 million stock sale, added fuel to a growing fire of public and regulatory scrutiny. This investigation posed existential risks not just to Thompson personally but to the corporation’s broader operations.

Thompson’s murder could be interpreted as an effort to disrupt the investigation or eliminate a key figure who might have possessed damaging information. If powerful stakeholders—either within UnitedHealthcare or in adjacent industries—feared the fallout from Thompson’s potential testimony or cooperation with authorities, eliminating him could serve as a preemptive strike to protect their interests.

The manifesto found with Luigi Mangione, Thompson’s alleged assassin, adds an ideological dimension to this theory. As the story goes, Mangione reportedly criticized the healthcare system’s failures, and his personal struggles with health issues might have driven him to retaliate violently. If the hack and the murder were ideologically motivated, they could represent parallel and or coordinated actions to either expose systemic corruption or it could be to cover it up.

Yes the murder of Thompson could be the result of a troubled lone wolf assassin who comes from a wealthy family, went to an Ivy League school and had a back injury that drove him to murder a man. A similar profile we have been told about every other high profile assassination in recent memory.

Having one person responsible certainly makes it easier to close the case and move on doesn’t it? Every single time.

However ignoring the hack and the ongoing DOJ investigation that just so happened to have the victim that was assassinated in broad daylight at the center of it, is the height of willful ignorance in my opinion.

It is truly amazing how quickly the public, despite being historically lied to incessantly, will blindly accept everything said from the same sources that have been the perpetrator of those lies. We have learned exactly nothing from the past and that permits the corruption to continue unabated.

Anyone who questions the official narrative is immediately dismissed as a “conspiracy theorist” despite those so called “conspiracy theorists” being vindicated over and over again. It is an accusatory trope that is leveled by officials and in the media and dutifully repeated by the masses.

I posted a photo, half in jest, along with 5 words, “They think you are stupid” that questions the images provided by the authorities of the alleged assassin and it went mega viral. Obviously I could not have known that it would spread like wildfire and as a result I have received several ominous anonymous threats. It has 29 million views right now.

It clearly hit a nerve on multiple levels and tapped into something bubbling underneath the surface of our society. Many people are questioning the narrative and should continue to do so because I believe this story is much bigger than is being reported.

UPDATE

I did some more digging and it seems that none other than Nancy Pelosi could be involved in all of this.

Nancy Pelosi’s purchase of Palo Alto Networks (PANW) call options in February 2024.

On February 12, 2024, she purchased 50 call options with a strike price of $200 and an expiration date of January 17, 2025. The transaction was valued between $500,001 and $1,000,000.

On February 21, 2024, she purchased an additional 20 call options under the same terms, valued between $100,001 and $250,000.

The second purchase occurred the day after Palo Alto Networks reported earnings on February 20, which caused its stock to drop nearly 20% in after-hours trading due to lowered revenue guidance. Pelosi’s purchase on February 21 capitalized on this dip, as shares traded between $260.09 and $275.98 that day.

Notably, February 21 was also the date when Change Healthcare—a subsidiary of UnitedHealth—discovered a massive ransomware attack affecting over 100 million Americans. Who did Change Healthcare hire to assist in responding to the cyberattack

Palo Alto Networks.

Lo and behold the contract announcement with Palo Alto Networks had a positive impact on its stock price. It increased from approximately $250 to $300 between February and mid-April 2024.

Such perfect timing!

The stock sits at $400 today.

Rumor has it that Brian Thompson the slain United Health CEO who was being investigated by the DOJ for insider trading of his own was set to testify and may have had some information about the Pelosi’s perfect timing.

But you should probably ignore all of this and write it off as happenstance because there is no way any of these events are connected and conspiracies don’t exist.
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Postby Grizzly » Sat Dec 14, 2024 11:39 pm

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Re: United Health Care Shooting (PSYOP/ARG/ETC.?)

Postby SonicG » Sun Dec 15, 2024 5:45 am

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Here are some of the reasons why I increasingly suspect Luigi Mangione could be a patsy or mind-controlled shooter. To be clear, I support the exec deathcare mvmt, but the narrative just doesn’t add up:

- Luigi complains of extreme sleeplessness & brain fog while studying computer science at UPenn, an Ivy League Company feeder with upwards of 4 different fellowship & research programs at the CIA

- Moves into a Hawaiian “intentional community” run by a Kinsey-loving academic & a globetrotting Fulbright scholar in ‘22, where he’s introduced to the Unabomber’s manifesto despite displaying turbonormie reading taste prior to then.

- Decides to finally undergo spinal fusion surgery for his spondylolisthesis (slipped disc) last summer. The surgery is supposedly a rousing success and he comes out of it proselytizing to back pain Redditors that they should surgeon shop—not many if any instances of health insurance critiques found. He’s reportedly not insured by UHC.

- Sometime this spring or last winter, Luigi embarks on a massive, 2 month backpacking trip across Asia (uhm…Oswald in Russia, anyone?)

- This Feb, United Health suffers the largest data breach in American history, with the personal info of over 100 million people stolen. Around the same time, Nancy Pelosi purchases stock in the cybersecurity company UHC hired to investigate the hack on two occasions, one of the buys on the v same day as the hack. Despite an initial dip, the stock has since rallied. Also, should be noted Brian Thompson is named in a Firefighter’s Pension Fund lawsuit alleging insider trading for dumping $15 mil in stocks before a DOJ probe against UHC was announced.

- Upon his return to the States, Luigi abruptly and without warning goes dark, cutting off all contact with his family and childhood friends from prestigious Gilman academy (slight tangent, but Gilman appears to have ignored or even protected numerous pedophile faculty, including an egregious case where a teacher was convicted of 9 counts last year, a teacher who was employed during Luigi’s time at the K-12 boys school)

- During Luigi’s AWOL period, the only people in his life he appears to be communicating w/ are sus RJ from Surfbreak who turned him on to Ted K or else a British tech writer on Twitter, whom Luigi tries to convince to schedule group video calls for his Substack subscribers so Luigi can recruit them for a rationalist, Stoic, & effective altruist group he plans to organize (seems a little weird to me). So Luigi is DMing complete strangers but can’t take the time to answer one of the plaintive messages from his family or a HS buddy whose wedding he’d committed to be a groomsman at.

- In September, Luigi removes his number from a WhatsApp group for Penn alumni in Hawaii, breaking ties & isolating himself further (alt, this could maybe be construed as a kind of scrubbing of digital comms evidence).

- Oct. 1st, a Gilman classmate receives a msg asking if he’d heard from Luigi. In Baltimore and around the country, concerned loved ones and the Mangione clan continue their frantic search for Luigi, from whom there’s only radio silence.

- Nov. 18th. Luigi’s mother files a Missing Persons Report with the SFPD. A day after the Brian Thompson clipping, the SFPD notifies the FBI of Luigi’s identity, hinting at clear contradictions in the official LE narrative. Zion•ist NYPD intel dir. Jessica Tisch maintains that they were kept in the dark. Conflicting narratives from LE & the feds re the sequence leading up to his apprehension at Mickey D’s that could either point at parallel constructions to obscure face recognition surveillance tech or else compartmentalized sloppiness borne of a need-to-know coverup of a patsy frame-up job.

https://twitter.com/KlonnyPin_Gosch/sta ... 3831182761

I think there are conflicting accounts that the surgery was botched and he was suffering back pain but there is still a lot of doubt about his dropping out and picking up a mission...

And well...sure because it is everything all at once these days..

UnitedHealthcare CEO killing suspect Luigi Mangione and Sean ‘Diddy’ Combs’ lawyers are married
It looks like Luigi Mangione and Sean “Diddy” Combs have more in common than orange jumpsuits and ankle shackles.

Karen Friedman-Agnifilo, the high-powered lawyer hired by UnitedHealthcare murder suspect Luigi Mangione, is married to none other than Marc Agnifilio, who has been representing the rapper as he battles sex trafficking charges.

Friedman-Agnifilo is a former prosecutor who ditched her longtime position as the head of the sex crimes unit in the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office in 2021 to join her husband’s private firm, Agnifilo Intrater LLP .

Before joining her husband in the private sector, Friedman-Agnifilo clocked in seven years as second in command to District Attorney Cyrus Vance.

Her marital relationship even caused career strife at times — Friedman-Agnifilo was forced to recuse herself from several cases in which her husband was representing accused suspects, including Harvey Weisnetin’s rape prosecution.

The disgraced movie mogul retained a member of the Agnifilo Intrater LLP team in 2017 after “Boardwalk Empire” actress Paz de la Huerta made “credible and detailed” claims that Weinstein raped her several years earlier, meaning Friedman-Agnifilo had no choice but to step down from the case.

Friedman-Agnifilo also clocked in time as the lead investigator on allegations that Seton Hall’s former board chairman sexually harassed the school’s former president’s wife, a claim later found to be unsubstantiated.

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Postby Belligerent Savant » Tue Dec 17, 2024 11:09 pm

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Re: United Health Care Shooting (PSYOP/ARG/ETC.?)

Postby Grizzly » Wed Dec 18, 2024 8:59 pm

https://x.com/dglaucomflecken/status/1554821739015680000
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Rumor is there were accomplices in the gun down of Brian Thompson...
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Re: United Health Care Shooting (PSYOP/ARG/ETC.?)

Postby SonicG » Thu Dec 19, 2024 8:11 am

Yeah there's a shitload of sus around it now -- and then homeboy will probably find a way to hang himself with a sheet and it will be all "tee-hee...oh well! Until next time folks!!"

I, for one, remain unconvinced that Luigi Mangione is guilty of shooting Brian Thompson.

We’ve all seen the eyebrows and jacket, but there’s a lot more to this case. This is not a conspiracy theory.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1869 ... 62118.html

“When I first interviewed him, before he moved in, I remember he said he had a back issue, and he was hoping to get stronger in Hawaii,” Martin said.

Martin said Mangione took a basic surf lesson that ended up leaving him in bed for about and week and that “it was really traumatic and difficult.”

Martin also said Mangione had surgery earlier this year that left him with screws in his body.

“He sent me the X-rays,” Martin said. “It looked heinous, with just giant screws going into his spine. After that, he called me once, I didn’t pick up.”

https://edition.cnn.com/us/live-news/br ... 4591293364

Huh? I thought his back problems stemmed from the surfing accident. So the surgery was after that? The fact that Thompson did have a security detail but weren't with him, Mangione knowing which hotel he was at, Mangione leaving a cup and wrapper near the scene, dropping a backpack full of Monopoly money but never getting rid of the gun...

* And that Martin dude stinks of Fed!
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