9/11 Foreshadowed by X-Files' "Lone Gunmen"?

[Jerky]

This thread started six years ago, and it's still going. Just thought I'd mention that.

[MinM]

......the "script" - re 2nd Generation Chechen clean-skins is quite reminisicent of the climactic plot-strand in this thing :

Such realistic parallels result from executive producer Tracey Alexander's entrée into government circles, courtesy of retired Navy captain Larry Seaquist, a Grid technical adviser. "He had access to everybody," she says. "He took me into the National Security Council. I met a bunch of counterterrorists," along with State Department, CIA and Pentagon veterans.

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"We war-gamed it," Alexander says. "We tried to put ourselves into the heads of where al Qaeda could be in a couple of years, how a new cell could spin up out of nothing, what that new cell would consist of."

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2004-07-13-grid_x.htm

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Just recently watched this because of this post. The show actually was a predictor/inoculation for the Boston Bombings and the 7/7 London Bombings.

As it turns out it was also prescient about the use of Sarin Nerve Gas...

U.N. has testimony that Syrian rebels used sarin gas: investigator

(Reuters) - U.N. human rights investigators have gathered testimony from casualties of Syria's civil war and medical staff indicating that rebel forces have used the nerve agent sarin, one of the lead investigators said on Sunday.

The United Nations independent commission of inquiry on Syria has not yet seen evidence of government forces having used chemical weapons, which are banned under international law, said commission member Carla Del Ponte.

"Our investigators have been in neighboring countries interviewing victims, doctors and field hospitals and, according to their report of last week which I have seen, there are strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof of the use of sarin gas, from the way the victims were treated," Del Ponte said in an interview with Swiss-Italian television.

"This was use on the part of the opposition, the rebels, not by the government authorities," she added, speaking in Italian. Del Ponte, a former Swiss attorney-general who also served as prosecutor of the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia, gave no details as to when or where sarin may have been used.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/ ... 9Z20130505

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014475144

[MinM]

This thread started six years ago, and it's still going. Just thought I'd mention that.

Recently checked out Season 9 of the X-Files (it's final season which I had not seen before). In one of the final episodes (Jump the Shark) they wrapped up the 'Lone Gunmen' storyline.

If you ever get the DVD check out the commentary. The producers are anxious for the fans of the show to write their Congressmen/Fox/NSA to release the 13 episode Lone Gunmen Series on DVD (almost a dozen years later they still have not). Although towards the end of the commentary they concede that the Lone Gunmen Pilot episode that foreshadowed 9/11 would be a tough sell. Especially since this was less than a year removed.

One last thought on these tv series commentaries. You could tell that the producers of the X-Files had just ended their nine year run. They sounded relieved to have finished the thing off. Compare that to another series which was inspired by the X-Files but only lasted one season (Dark Skies). The two main stars and producers could not have sounded more excited about what they created. Although, not only did they just get the one season but they were about fifteen years removed from it...

A couple more thoughts on Dark Skies:

The portrayal of the killing of Dorothy Kilgallen is spot-on as to the why, the where, and the how. Not so much the who.

Also as with Nowhere Man...

A Special Ops guy in silhouette has some interesting revelations in the Nowhere Man DVD.

1) He claims that if he had to do it over, he would not have let himself be used as a tool of the MIC, or Big Government as he puts it. Perhaps he had a Pat Tillman-like epiphany? I tend to doubt it since he's involved with the likes of Surnow.

2) Since 1967 "Big Government" has been using TV as a form of Visual Hypnosis. There was also an episode that explored this phenomenon.

3) "Big Government" could have staged a 9/11 False-Flag in order to further extract concessions from Americans, and expand government authority. Although he is careful to couch this with the admonition that he is 150% sure that OBL did it...

So if you happen to get Nowhere Man through Netflix, before Netflix goes under, check out Special Features on Disk 9. Then click on Fact or Fiction?:

Nowhere Man: Fact or Fiction? - True Stories of CIA Mind Control Techniques (Video 2005)

An anonymous ex-CIA operative reveals real world government conspiracies, mind control techniques and how fragile our identity really is...

Director:
Evan Geerlings
Writer:
Lawrence Hertzog
Stars:
Baz and Bruce Greenwood

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0491796/

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the commentary (Signal-To-Noise: Uncovering Dark Skies) is probably more interesting than the individual episodes.

Including a little nugget about shooting a scene in the pantry of the Ambassador Hotel (shot in a scene totally unrelated to the RFK assassination which they were going to cover in season two).

Mad Men.

Twice in a row this season--5.05, 'Signal 30', and 5.06, 'Far Away Places'-- a walk on actress has passed through a scene wearing a pink suit and pillbox hat. It's 1966 in MM universe, so I'm thinking the Jackie doppelgangers are foreshadowing some interesting discussions on Mark Lane's Rush to Judgement, published in '66. Should be very good, considering how well the show handled the assassination itself.

Dark Skies covered in one season about the same time period Mad Men has in it's run. Although in Dark Skies these historical events were used as plot devices central to the overall storyline. All of this set against a backdrop of an ongoing alien invasion stemming from the 1947 Roswell Crash.

This tidbit from the Educational Forum in a thread about Danny Casolaro of all things prompted me to check out the Dark Skies dvd...

St. Louis Magazine, August 2008

Stalking the Octopus

For 20 years Kenn Thomas of Steamshovel Press has been tracking the oily tentacles of world conspiracy — and shaking readers out of their reality tunnel

by Stefene Russell

Recent history is a vast record of a vast conspiracy to impose one level of mechanical consciousness on mankind. –Allen Ginsberg

...Thomas even wonders out loud if he and fellow conspiracy newsletter publishers Greg Bishop, editor of the now-defunct Excluded Middle, and Jim Martin of Flatland were perhaps the inspiration for The X-Files' Lone Gunmen; in fact, he saw smatterings of Steamshovel in Mel Gibson's Conspiracy Theory, too.

"Everything in there, everything this cab driver guy spots, is right out of Steamshovel Press," Thomas says. "There are two anthologies, basically back issues of Steamshovel. Brian Helgeland, the screenwriter, bought both of those books [Popular Alienation and Popular Paranoia] from Jim Martin at Flatland Press." Thomas says he's also seen material from the Steamshovel website show up on TV: "There was a show called Dark Skies on the SciFi channel that mixed in real historical figures with this whole alien story. I did some research one week on Dorothy Kilgallen; the next week, Dorothy Kilgallen was a character on the show. So I write a column about Carl Sagan—in the '60s Sagan presented a paper to all these rocket scientists on aliens—and the next week, Carl Sagan was a character on the show. So they're cribbing off the website." Not that there's anything wrong with that, of course. "I've been told many times that I need to go to Hollywood and exploit this," Thomas laughs. "The thing about living in St. Louis is, for $200 you can go to any city in this country, and L.A.-centered stuff, New York–centered stuff—that's part of the conspiracy. It's part of the homogenizing of the world. I don't want to be part of that. I want a bigger picture. And you have to work harder to live in L.A. I think I've stumbled upon the perfect place." ...

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Unfortunately, as with some other slightly subversive (by U.S. Network standards) shows of that time (Nowhere Man and VR.5) and more recent examples (Rubicon and Alcatraz)...

There are only two television shows we keep up with on broadcast TV: Modern Family and Fringe (and, starting in January, Alcatraz of course). I totally love JJ Abrams' stuff, propagandistic though it may be (and, sometimes, surely is).

But we've also been having lots of fun on Netflix lately, watching The Tudors. (If Henry Cavill is in something, all he really has to do is just stand there, okay? He doesn't even have to speak! — although movement is greatly appreciated, and he really is quite a fine actor — and there'd be a good chance I'd want to watch it. Hey, I admit to being frivolous and superficial — but, remember, my superficiality only goes so deep!)

But that's about it with us for television. For me, reading is really where it's at.

This week Alcatraz had a scene right out of the brainwashing montage in the Parallax View.

'Alcatraz': The Only Innocent Man On The Rock Isn't So Innocent Anymore (VIDEO)

rigorousintuition.ca :: "Pharmacologic Waterboarding" at Guantanamo

rigorousintuition.ca :: Mind Kontrol Themes on TeleVision

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the show only lasted one season.

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[8bitagent]

http://dangerousminds.net/comments/top_ ... dian_slips

[MinM]

@CovertHistory: Hijacking Airplanes With An Android Phone

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Inoculation


inoculate, inoculating, inoculated
1. To communicate a disease by inoculation.
2. To bud; to insert, or graft, as the bud of a tree or plant in another tree or plant.
3. To insert a foreign bud into; as, to inoculate a tree.
4. To communicate a disease to (a person) by inserting infectious matter in the skin or flesh; such as, to inoculate a person with the virus of smallpox, rabies, etc.
5. To introduce into the mind; used especially of harmful ideas or principles.
6. To imbue; such as, to inoculate someone with treason or infidelity.
7. Etymology: from Latin inoculatus, past participle of inoculare "to ingraft"; in-, "in, on" + oculare "to furnish with eyes", from oculus, "an eye"; also, "a bud".
inoculation
1. Taking a vaccine as a precaution against contracting a disease.
2. Introduction of material (usually a vaccine) into the tissues.
3. A mode of entry of bacteria into the body.
4. The act or an instance of inoculating, especially the introduction of an antigenic substance or vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.
5. Informal, a preemptive advertising tactic in which one party attempts to foresee and neutralize potentially damaging criticism from another party by being the first to confront troublesome issues.

http://www.wordinfo.info/words/index/in ... 2&letter=O



This classic Rovian technique has been used (and especially was effective in the discrediting of ongoing CT's especially in The "X Files" with respect to the secret government of fascists manipualting things and is currrent today with "Heroes") repeatedly to discredit any idea that our government and the BFEE especially is tied into the Nazi/Fascist Fourth Reich/New World Order.

In the episode the Twin Towers are the target. The purpose is to enable the secret fascists in government/military/intel to blame the act on "terrorists" and bring about a suspension of liberties etc. in a scenario which completely ridicules the "Lone Gunmen" as credible. It appeals to folks like me who believe in conspiracies of the BFEE/Nazis but is in such a ridiculous scenario that the very idea discredits the idea for the masses (not that it worked, really, given folks' opinions of 9-1 today on the facts).

Rove's most famous effort in this regard prior to 9-11 was, not uncoincidentally, a plot to inoculate the public against the idea that Bush was a cokehead who had been busted in Texas and had to do community service. That story was fed to the late James Hatfield (but with false facts) who already had a shakey reputation as an excon convicted of, I believe, conspiracy to commit murder. The false fatc made the whole story and Hatgfield totally discreditted (even though it was true. Hatfield was brought to the boonies by Rove and two others in the Bush white house and fed the facts and then fed false facts about the judge involved in the sentencing . St. Martin Press cancelled the book and 60 minutes ran a hit piece on Hatfield when they had planned to blow thew whole story open prior to the 2000 election (which might have buried Bush).

Hatfield was almost destoryed by this. The story was discreditted because the messenger was unreliable (not because the actual core facts were untrue).


The tactic may also have been used using Hatfield as a sucker for a leaked story (and he said as much) Hatfield wrote in July 2001 about Osama planning a "james Bond-like aerial attack" on American targets (including Bush) with remote controlled planes laden with explosives which Hatfield suggested was a fake CIA leak designed to boost Bush's sagging poll numbers in the summer of 2001.

Two weeks later cops showed up at Hatfield's home. Seized his computer and seized him as well as taking him away and confiscating other documents from his home. The next day he was found dead in a hotel room after writing 5 suicide notes (including one the the cop who let him "go" so he could kill himself with drugs and booze). I thinkhe was given a "Rommels choice" and he did it to save his wife and infant daughter from execution (kill yourself or we slaughter your entire family).

A quick google using "James Hatfield", Bush and Osama will bring you to the online jlournal article about the attacks which Hatfield learned about from intel sources in Europe and wrote about on July 3 2001. Dead two weeks later. Suicided.

Dan Rather (who himself was a useful tool when he was the only reporter who got to see and report on the original Zapruder film with the frames reversed to show JFK's head blowing backwards after the first shot (frames reversed) became another famous victim of inoculatioin when his report on Bush and the National Guard awol story was "verified" with doctored documents which discreditted Rather and the whole story (bad typewriter!!! - unlike Nixon and the typewriter he had in the alger hiss case proving that Hiss was a spy (not), the BFEE is not to original but they are effective). Rather may have fallen on his sword (he is filthy rich already) to help his mentors from the JFK days and pump up his "liberal" creds LOL)


The NSA fed stories to the X Files and also to the Lone Gunman. This story is allegedly original and relatively a no brainer given all the circumstances. The series was cancelled after one season. Nobody watched it - it sucked pretty bad - and the three wise men were snuffed in a valiant effort to stop a mass bioattack which might have killed off millions (another inoculation - this time a fairly lone nut - what they now call "a lone wolf" terrorist - a scientist I believe).


9-11 was an inside job with a handful of ops who could handle the remote flying into all the targets. It may be that EMP (like with wellstone) was used to take down the flight in Pennsy because the passengers DID revolt and if they had gotten into the cockpit the fact that it was a remote flight (and not the hapless patsy Saudi strip club goers flying the plane) would have been clear (as it becomes clear in the lone gunman episode).

All the dumbass saudis thought they had to do was get into the cockpit and fly to wherever they were told to once they killed to pilots and loked the cockpit. They probably had no fucking idea what was happening when the planes began to fly themselves. That is why all they needed was boxcutters. That way the blame would fall on them and no one (except those with Cheney's clearance) even had to know who was flying the planes.


Inoculation.

Keep your eye out for it. It is one of the most brilliant black psyops ever invented.

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Friday, September 28, 2012
As a Last Resort

Just how far does Hollywood go in its predictive programming? The latest is ABC's "Last Resort." A scenario of false flags, rogue military where killing one's own is a means to an end, nuclear war and of course...the good guys.

Are we being played for the future of a military coup with competing factions? Is the show similar to the 'Lone Gunman' 9/11 episode but with a new spin and having Pakistan as the fall guy instead of Iran? The message will never be dead on target, only close.

Perhaps it is as simple as catering to the ever increasing number of 'conspiracy theorists.' Perhaps as we sit on our couches and watch the TV version of beginnings of a real new war we'll be saying "But where are the good guys, that show said there are some." Yeah, where indeed are the 'good guys.'

There's probably no need in watching future episodes of "Last Resort." This one may be telling us all we will ever need to know...or what the powers that be through their programmers want us to know.

http://kennysideshow.blogspot.com/2012/ ... esort.html

This classic Rovian technique has been used (and especially was effective in the discrediting of ongoing CT's especially in The "X Files" with respect to the secret government of fascists manipualting things and is currrent today with "Heroes") repeatedly to discredit any idea that our government and the BFEE especially is tied into the Nazi/Fascist Fourth Reich/New World Order.

In the episode the Twin Towers are the target. The purpose is to enable the secret fascists in government/military/intel to blame the act on "terrorists" and bring about a suspension of liberties etc. in a scenario which completely ridicules the "Lone Gunmen" as credible. It appeals to folks like me who believe in conspiracies of the BFEE/Nazis but is in such a ridiculous scenario that the very idea discredits the idea for the masses (not that it worked, really, given folks' opinions of 9-1 today on the facts).

Rove's most famous effort in this regard prior to 9-11 was, not uncoincidentally, a plot to inoculate the public against the idea that Bush was a cokehead who had been busted in Texas and had to do community service. That story was fed to the late James Hatfield (but with false facts) who already had a shakey reputation as an excon convicted of, I believe, conspiracy to commit murder. The false fatc made the whole story and Hatgfield totally discreditted (even though it was true. Hatfield was brought to the boonies by Rove and two others in the Bush white house and fed the facts and then fed false facts about the judge involved in the sentencing . St. Martin Press cancelled the book and 60 minutes ran a hit piece on Hatfield when they had planned to blow thew whole story open prior to the 2000 election (which might have buried Bush).

Hatfield was almost destoryed by this. The story was discreditted because the messenger was unreliable (not because the actual core facts were untrue).

Like Rumsfeld pulling various "missile" references to the Pentagon and Shanksville, and the media hyping up the "4000 Jews stayed home" theories, then Bush saying "let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories"

By pushing absurd and anti semetic theories, the elite were able to make even the up and arms left activists in America be convinced 9/11 was just some angry Muslims.

So yeah, I totally understand what you're saying about preemptive gestures.

[Zombie Glenn Beck]

Probably been posted here before but:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lone_Gunmen_(TV_series)

The Pilot was written by Vince Gilligan. Who later created Breaking Bad, a show where he personally wrote only 14 episodes, two of which being:

http://breakingbad.wikia.com/wiki/ABQ

http://breakingbad.wikia.com/wiki/No_M%C3%A1s

I remember how people complained at the time that the plane crash seemed melodramatic and out of place, and it never really had a payoff either. It was brought up maybe one time afterwards. And that one time was Walt, freaking out over the fact that he had met the man who caused the accident the same day that he killed his daughter. Cant find a clip anywhere but he went on and on about what a bizarre coincidence it was.