National Anarchism & the Far Right

[jakell]

Is there a way that we can all declare our dislike of Fascism and the far right - so that the board doesn't become even more swamped with Fascist related threads? It's starting to look obsessional.

The issue is identifying rebranding shenanigans. It's an obsession worth having if it is an obsession. Eternal vigilance. You can always choose to not click on these threads of course. Perhaps one of the token threads posted by slad to make it appear she actually has other interests and does not spend every waking hour obsessing on her perceived enemies at ri might be more to your liking.

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The subject of obsession came up a while back, and I think this term is unfairly used as a pejorative.

Obsession(s) can be useful, they just need to be harnessed and a decent framework developed for what they produce. Granted, they can get out of control, but so can any energy source.
Without obsession we would hardly have any useful science or technology (other fields of endeavour too)

My solution... have more than one obsession, preferably qualitatively different ones that don't reinforce each other. This enables a step back and overview if nothing else

[seemslikeadream]

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Is there a way that we can all declare our dislike of Fascism and the far right - so that the board doesn't become even more swamped with Fascist related threads? It's starting to look obsessional.

The issue is identifying rebranding shenanigans. It's an obsession worth having if it is an obsession. Eternal vigilance. You can always choose to not click on these threads of course. Perhaps one of the token threads posted by slad to make it appear she actually has other interests and does not spend every waking hour obsessing on her perceived enemies at ri might be more to your liking.

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They are playing.... *your* song

[Zombie Glenn Beck]

Let's start with National Anarchism- and definitely get jakell in on this, too. He's been saying he wants a conversation for such a long time. This will be much better for him than the semi-robotic trolling he was committing against me for such a long time on the other thread,

Lets start with what I said. What exactly is so morally wrong with Jakells position on Anarchist movements? Do you want me to go dig up the quotes of what he actually said?

Nope- you are not going to serve as jakell's proxy. Do you even know him? He is going to be accountable for his own actions.

Do you agree with my statement on National Anarchism- i.e. that it is odious Nazi type shit?

Accountable for what? I just want to understand why you take the position that you have. When I asked you in the past you gave me limp wristed non-answers. Now you refuse to speak about it. I even came to the special thread you made just for speaking about it, and you STILL refuse to give me any answers.

And my opinion on National Anarchism is the same as my opinion on all types of Anarchism, so yes, odious Nazi type shit.

[coffin_dodger]

Is there a way that we can all declare our dislike of Fascism and the far right - so that the board doesn't become even more swamped with Fascist related threads? It's starting to look obsessional.

The issue is identifying rebranding shenanigans. It's an obsession worth having if it is an obsession. Eternal vigilance. You can always choose to not click on these threads of course. Perhaps one of the token threads posted by slad to make it appear she actually has other interests and does not spend every waking hour obsessing on her perceived enemies at ri might be more to your liking.

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[Zombie Glenn Beck]

Please note: the person who has tirelessly bumped the same thread every day for 5 years straight calling someone else "obsessed".

[Searcher08]

Two dozen posts and no one has actually written about National Anarchism in this thread. I mean like THEIR OWN thoughts. Except me.

GO ME!!!!

I did- at least twice- but now I'm going to take a break and see if jakell can cite a good reason for not really responding..

Actually you did, just once though.

I am curious that jakell isnt responding to me. I do not have a dog in this fight except to ask for someone to natter about the points I brought up.
I mean Keith Preston came across as a lucid writer, but on the basis of the pieces I read lacking foresight.

I also thought about how it kinda goes against the grain (in practice) of the Noosphere idea, where life (including humanity) is seeking to express itself in more and more varied forms and connections and weavings.

[seemslikeadream]

[Zombie Glenn Beck]

Why is that asian man rolling dice?

[seemslikeadream]

Is there a way that we can all declare our dislike of Fascism and the far right - so that the board doesn't become even more swamped with Fascist related threads? It's starting to look obsessional.

The issue is identifying rebranding shenanigans. It's an obsession worth having if it is an obsession. Eternal vigilance. You can always choose to not click on these threads of course. Perhaps one of the token threads posted by slad to make it appear she actually has other interests and does not spend every waking hour obsessing on her perceived enemies at ri might be more to your liking.

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you're just pissed that your good buddy solace just got his ass handed to him

[Rory]

That a certain section of Die groupthink have an obsession with masturbation is very telling

[Searcher08]

Let's start with National Anarchism- and definitely get jakell in on this, too. He's been saying he wants a conversation for such a long time. This will be much better for him than the semi-robotic trolling he was committing against me for such a long time on the other thread,

Lets start with what I said. What exactly is so morally wrong with Jakells position on Anarchist movements? Do you want me to go dig up the quotes of what he actually said?

Nope- you are not going to serve as jakell's proxy. Do you even know him? He is going to be accountable for his own actions.

Do you agree with my statement on National Anarchism- i.e. that it is odious Nazi type shit?

Accountable for what? I just want to understand why you take the position that you have. When I asked you in the past you gave me limp wristed non-answers. Now you refuse to speak about it. I even came to the special thread you made just for speaking about it, and you STILL refuse to give me any answers.

And my opinion on National Anarchism is the same as my opinion on all types of Anarchism, so yes, odious Nazi type shit.

ZBG,
I did not judge Preston as bad or evil, but I had a real feeling of 'this aint gonna fly' when it came to implementation. I think it would be an absolute clusterfuck.

AD,
ZBG's experience was to some extent similar to my own when I tried to understand where you were around the Rothschilds / Bank of International Settlements / Finance Capital Concentration we had a while ago, because the research I have done was showing clear evidence of an incredible level of power accumulation AND a Rothschild connection to it.
Yet it seemed like the response was put into binary logic of being a 'me being a Jewish Banker Conspiracy believer'.

I find it hard to say this but my intuition (and experience) is that the 'threat' or 'danger' posed by binary reductionist adversarial thinking is a bigger threat to the world (including this board) than all the forms of fascism, socialism and anarchism - squared.

[jakell]

The thread starter needs to display some patience, he was was very keen on getting me silenced by a mod, and I'm now waiting for permission to engage again. it's pending.

[jakell]

ZBG,
I did not judge Preston as bad or evil, but I had a real feeling of 'this aint gonna fly' when it came to implementation. I think it would be an absolute clusterfuck.

Exactly. My impression too, and looking around the site I get the impression of right-leaning anarchism, not the shrill stuff that has been repeated here ad nauseum

It does tend to rest on a scenario of partial or total collapse, which is not such a complete fantasy nowadays (seccession in the US is not unthinkable), even though a lot don't like to think about this, so in a way, it's preparing for the clusterfuck, not trying to sidestep or deny it.

[American Dream]

The thread starter needs to display some patience, he was was very keen on getting me silenced by a mod, and I'm now waiting for permission to engage again. it's pending.

Jakell, I know of no directive forbidding you to engage with me. If there was such an animal, why would you repeatedly justify your trolling of the other thread with the explanation that you really just wanted to discuss things with me?

Where is your cite for this claim?

[jakell]

I find this so-called 'forgetfulness' hard to believe considering the extended theatrics that brought a mod down on me in the first place.

^ Look, whether or not it's unfair, AD has told you in word and deed, over and over again, that he will not get into a discussion with you. Your persistent and immediate responses to his every post and badgering him to respond is trolling at this point. Give it up. Start your own thread, pursue other discussions with people who are willing to interact with you. If you do not cease, I will have to give you a time out.**

Zombie Glenn Beck, no, you will not keep poking unless you too want to go on a break.

AD, I will thank you to stop casting general aspersions on the board and other members here. If you have some specific statement or post that breaks board rules, then report it.

If any of you have complaints or issues with anything I've just said, address them to me via pm.

I mean that, pm, NOT HERE.

**'Time out' to me means I leave, no hanging around, this is why I take this business seriously.