US Presidential Election 2024

[SonicG]

Speaking of QAnon nutters - one of my favorites:

Melissa Lyran
@MelissaLyran
The QUANTUM HEALING FULL BODY SYSTEMS IE "medbeds" are being released in the highest realms and coming here now! This is correcting all DNA distortion. I had friends who were PARALYZED HERE. This has been the longest most traumatic wait. Horrors no one should suffer. All damage to the nervous system is fully repaired in THIS NOW. I feel the damage REPAIRING FAST AS these systems come online and the truth is revealed that no one had to suffer here at all. HUGE TECHNOLOGY ADVANCES MERGE WITH SPIRIT AND QUANTUM TECH. WE HAVE ACCESS TO ORMUS, COLLOIDAL SILVER, AND ANY LIFE SAVING COMPOUHDS WE NEED. New Earth leaders demand the release of all SYSTEMS NOW. all neurological damage is repaired. IQ is going to go back to normal for us before they mutilated us with childhood vacc1nes. Most of us are 160 plus.

"She'll be coming round the mountain - when she comes!"

[Belligerent Savant]

Club des Cordeliers
@cordeliers

Repeatedly branding right-wing, center-right, and simply dissident politics as "fascism" sucks all meaning from the word -- which is intentional, as the ruling class usher in *actual* fascism in through the back door.

[Elvis]

The ruling class promotes 'fascism' through economic austerity.

Austerity is a tool for controlling the masses and enriching the financial elite.

[Belligerent Savant]

Agreed with the above, but I'd also add:

Covid policies were brazen and overt examples of totalitarian/fascist measures.

and many so-called "leftists" not only complied but clamored for them, and a sizable subset will continue to clamor for them, to the detriment of their fellow citizens. Fascist enablers.

Also: "net zero" and related 'climate alarm' scam policies are also forms of austerity measures detrimental to The People. See Germany's collapsing economy/viability as one clear-cut example.

Addendum:

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... voting for a candidate based primarily (or entirely) on sex or external complexion, rather than accomplishments, presentation or qualifications* is not only stupid, but potentially harmful to the collective.

*even if only pantomimed, but Kamala can't even fake being competent. And then of course there's the VP candidates. One is demonstrably more inept in several respects than the other.

We've truly reached the Idiocracy phase of talking points here.

Surely there are many (actual rather than cartoonish nonsense that pass for most 'Dem' Party scare-mongering) negatives to Trump. But any (objective-minded) person -- and this certainly includes women -- is insulted by the prospect of someone as incompetent, compromised and unqualified as Kamala being presented as an option for President (putting aside, of course, that she was installed as a candidate and won 0 delegates -- the opposite of "democracy" as far as process).

As I typed elsewhere, it's a LOSE / LOSE for the citizenry. Here's a reminder via an excerpt of what I typed in another thread recently, lest anyone with mediocre reading comprehension attempt to ascribe me as a (gasp!) 'Trumper':

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...the Election outcome will be Lose / Lose for the citizenry. I anticipate certain events looming in the coming year (perhaps a long-anticipated market crash, some form of massive EMF solar flare event, etc). Or merely the continuation of the Clown Show as presented in earnest since ~2019.

Of course I may be wrong about all or some of the above.

We shall see.

I must add, however: Kennedy -- albeit another flawed/compromised candidate -- on the Trump ticket makes it FAR more appealing than, say, Kamala and CHENEY.

Kennedy will at least implement certain changes with respect to FOOD (minimizing extent of pesticides/processed ingredients), PHARMA waiver of liability issues and/or allowing for exemptions from any/ALL "vaccines" (etc), and also environmental issues -- if we take his campaign promises at his word, that is.

[Laodicean]

[Belligerent Savant]

Wilt Random-Guy-from-the-Internet Alston
@Wiltster

Among the most virulent indicators of how far afield the Democratic Party has gone is this scenario. For years, many of us, in the anti-war-all-the-time camp, thought of Cheney and every other neocon chickenhawk, as the epitome of losers.
They would proclaim the greatness of war, clamor for the "justified" bombing and killing of any who stood in their way. (And many who didn't, but I digress.) We *always* felt they could only act this way because they were safe from having to actually duck the first bullet. I felt (and said) the same things about Bush II, who managed to avoid active duty via these same mechanisms, typically enjoyed by his ilk. In a shocking moment of philosophical whiplash, The Orange Man draws a similar comparison to another Cheney chickenhawk, and pearl clutching ensues across the airwaves.

Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald

It's staggering to watch, especially since I was part of the group who was saying this. Now to watch these people turn around and faint with horror when Trump says the same exact thing is suffocating: the stench of their shameless dishonesty could choke an elephant to death:

Sam Rogers
@RealSamRogers

Democrats spent 25 years saying that Dick Cheney's kids should have to go fight in a war and all it took was Donald Trump agreeing with them to change their minds.

https://x.com/Wiltster/status/1852460687617835413

[SonicG]

No doubt, Trump is a fooking moran. China needs land so is a natural enemy with Russia? The sad thing is, he is going to be surrounded by the worst and dumbest Neo-cons (lots of competition there) who will gladly abandon Ukraine, let Russia keep the Donbass and probably a little more, split up the western part of Ukraine among Poland and the other neighbors. Then amp up the Taiwan independence claims and look for other ways to false flag or true flag China into a conflict OR encourage Israel to start it up with Iran but I think that will be checked by Russia moving troops into Iran and further aiding in defense measures.

Michael Tracey
@mtracey
What are the methods by which Trump proposes to "un-unite" Russia and China, and turn them into "enemies"? There doesn't seem to be much of an appetite in Russia or China for the US to impede their relations or impose a state of conflict between them. Might not go over so well
https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1852415793507569810

Trumps has floated the idea of sanctioning countries that try to drop the dollar - a move that will just further strengthen the move towards BRICs...

[Elvis]

"net zero" and related 'climate alarm' scam policies are also forms of austerity measures detrimental to The People. See Germany's collapsing economy/viability as one clear-cut example.

Germany has chosen austerity as its economic policy. It has nothing to do with climate change. Investing in climate mitigation/infrastructure is the opposite of austerity.

Where do people get these weird notions?...wait, I know—from 50 years of "trickle-down" propaganda.

Dude, Covid is over. It was a health scare that led unprepared governments like the USA to improvise solutions.

[SonicG]

I'll see your Dick Cheney and raise you a Mike Pompeo! The CIA had to make sure Trump had a handler placed close in case he actually considered giving loose nuts like Musk and RFK Jr. too much real power:

Michael Tracey
@mtracey
Here's a compilation of Trump praising Mike Pompeo today in Reading, PA. Pompeo has joined Trump's traveling entourage on the final day of the campaign

https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1853628027529212360

Michael Tracey
@mtracey
Mike Pompeo speaks at one of the final Trump Rallies in Pittsburgh. Reminisces about how he was Trump's most loyal cabinet member -- they talked every day for four years. Declares that Trump in a second term will "take down the ring of fire" (Iran) and support Israel

https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1853642954147025139

[Belligerent Savant]

"net zero" and related 'climate alarm' scam policies are also forms of austerity measures detrimental to The People. See Germany's collapsing economy/viability as one clear-cut example.

Germany has chosen austerity as its economic policy. It has nothing to do with climate change. Investing in climate mitigation/infrastructure is the opposite of austerity.

Where do people get these weird notions?...wait, I know—from 50 years of "trickle-down" propaganda.

Dude, Covid is over. It was a health scare that led unprepared governments like the USA to improvise solutions.

Comically naive and frankly foolish take, on both the Covid response and Germany’s reported aims. If you earnestly believe the Covid response was govt ‘improvisation’ you are more deluded than I previously surmised.

By all means, continue with your takes. But don’t hold your breath that any of your interpretations of reality will ever come to fruition or be realized within current constructs.

Re: Germany, a couple breadcrumbs below, though an entirely new thread can be (but won’t be, at least not by me) dedicated on this topic. The already-existing ‘climate change’ threads cover some of this, however. -






Re-directing to the primary topic of this thread:

[DrEvil]

It only goes to 2022, so not really relevant to 2024. But sure, people get worked up every time, except this time you have a candidate who actually sounds like Hitler with some of the things he says, like immigrants being animals with bad genes destroying the blood of America.

By all means, continue with your takes. But don’t hold your breath that any of your interpretations of reality will ever come to fruition or be realized within current constructs.

You know, I'm still not sure what your interpretation of reality is. Something something climate lockdowns? Do you actually have a coherent view of what's really going on, or is it just breadcrumbs all the way down?

[Belligerent Savant]

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The above sample screenshots provide information as of 2022, yes. Surely you realize there is more information out there on this topic, right? Surely, you're not suggesting that the snippets I included above are exhaustive.... That would not only be obtuse, but a silly strawman.

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Jeff Wells
@JeffWellsRigInt

How insane did things get the last four years that a vote for Donald frickin' Trump is a vote to stop things being insane?

11:47 AM · Nov 5, 2024

While I can’t speak for Jeff, I anticipate he is no more a ‘fan’ of Trump than I am, and understands that our system is (perhaps irrevocably) broken regardless of this election’s outcome.

But at least from outward presentations/optics, one of these 2 major U.S. parties — and their ‘fan base’ — presents as markedly more unhinged & detached from reality than the other.

[Elihu]

Democracy in its crystallized perfection. both insane and split right down the middle.

[SonicG]

I would have to reframe Jeff's take as:
"How insane did things get the last four years that it seems like a vote for Donald frickin' Trump is a vote to stop things being insane?"
Which I agree, I think Jeff really means...The whole system is fuggggged.

When pressed by my wife, not an American but way too interested in the US election, to choose Coke or Pepsi - because she won't accept a third party, even though her country has numerous third parties that actually achieve congressional representation - I say, "OK, Trump because he will most likely accelerate the US's decline through his bumbling, maybe draw more Democrats to protest Israel, and allow the BRICs and rest of the developing world to perhaps further organize and develop their own paths. Unless he fumbles into or, more likely, allows the 'Deep State' to false flag a nuclear war..."

[DrEvil]

BelSav wrote:

But at least from outward presentations/optics, one of these 2 major U.S. parties — and their ‘fan base’ — presents as markedly more unhinged & detached from reality than the other.

Agree completely, although I suspect we're thinking of different parties, so I'm going to continue ranting on that assumption.

I just have to admit I seriously have no clue what planet you're living on. The MAGA crowd is clearly and obviously more unhinged, almost laughably so. They're a personality cult. You don't see Dems putting up statues of Harris, or running around with bandages on their ears, or having boat parades with Nazi flags. And you don't see Waltz buddying up with fascist tech-bros who think democracy is a failed idea (and that corporate absolute monarchy might be a better idea, and yes, I wish I was making this up), or hear Harris paraphrasing Hitler in her speeches, or see her smiling and laughing with Epstein.

Your contempt for Musk alone should be enough to make you run away screaming. Do you really want him in a government position?

The Trump team is checking every box this forum has usually obsessed over: corporate takeover, elite pedophilia and trafficking, dark money, cults and extremists, people getting rounded up, etc., but you just keep going on about Covid like that was the only issue ever. Buuuut Cooovid! You're acting like a vegan.