Why now? (Saudis and 9/11)

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Re: Why now? (Saudis and 9/11)

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Apr 18, 2016 8:51 pm

Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: Why now? (Saudis and 9/11)

Postby backtoiam » Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:08 pm

I have seen it rumored for years, don't remember where, that at the end of the 7 country conquest campaign we have been watching play out in real time, that there is another country at the end of the string that will be rattled last. That country was Saudia Arabia. What truth there is in this I don't know. For the last year the subtle references to Saudia Arabia and 9/11 have been increasing. Looks like a coercive threat to the Saudis at the very least.
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Re: Why now? (Saudis and 9/11)

Postby Nordic » Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:24 pm

thatsmystory » Mon Apr 18, 2016 7:42 pm wrote:
Nordic » Mon Apr 18, 2016 5:11 pm wrote:
8bitagent » Mon Apr 18, 2016 7:57 am wrote:It took 15 years, but there are a lot of signs the White House is going to finally release the 28 pages that strongly implicate Saudi Arabia was behind 9/11. Way too many Republican and Democrat beltway insiders indicating this, and putting the pressure on the White House.

I've been saying it for years, but the US has to cut all ties with Saudi Arabia. For a "wealthy kingdom", to both be funding the world's Sunni terrorism, causing wars in the Middle East and
having extreme anti woman/gay/ect death penalty laws is absolutely disgusting.

The 9/11 truthers have been waiting and praying for 15 years for "9/11 truth" to come out in the open, well this is as close as you'll get. And I do not feel exposing Saudis as 9/11 masterminds is a "limited hangout" since
it goes without saying how CLOSE the Bush family/US government, UK government, Pakistan and (yes) Israel are to the Saudi Kingdom. And we know what that means re: 9/11.

But Im predicting IF the 28 pages are redacted, and Saudi is exposed, it will hit with a "meh" on social media and the popular consciousness who have long moved on from even caring.


I disagree. I think anyone over the age of 30 is gonna be murderously angry.


Will the media be able to contain the story? So far they have contained the 28 pages story.

1)The Obama administration has had eight years to conduct a review. A real media would say the Obama administration is stalling for time perhaps to give them an upper hand in negotiations with the Saudis.

2)This story is about the entire context of the war on terror which basically affects everybody on the planet. Taken at face value the story means the entire war on terror premise is false. If the Saudi sponsorship was part of a deep state psy-op then we are still talking about a war on terror narrative that is false. Pretending that the stakes are somehow not this important is media horseshit. Will the media contrast the policies of indefinite detention and torture with a 9/11 cover-up by the same officials who advocated for all this police state garbage? I would guess the media will attempt to ignore the massive inconsistencies.

3)Saudi conduct did not take place in a vacuum. The conduct of US intelligence has been kept secret as well. It doesn't get attention because US journalism refuses to investigate (i.e 60 Minutes pathetic failure to look into Soufan's allegation of CIA withholding).



It will be clear that the media has been involved in the coverup since day one.

Letting this particular cat out of the bag could -- dare I say it -- IT COULD CHANGE EVERYTHING.

Which is why I'm completely baffled as to why it might actually be coming about. Hell, they've managed to keep the official truth about the JFK murder under wraps for 53 years.
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Re: Why now? (Saudis and 9/11)

Postby Nordic » Mon Apr 18, 2016 11:11 pm

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-1 ... udi-arabia

Obama Administration Makes Stunning Admission: "Seed Money For Al Qaeda Came From Saudi Arabia"


Following the deterioration in official diplomatic channels between the US and Saudi Arabia when over the weekend the Saudis threatened the U.S. with dumping billions in Treasuries if Congress were to pass a bill probing into their alleged support of Sept 11 terrorists in the aftermath of last weekend's 60 Minutes report on the classified "28 pages" from the Septemeber 11 commission, moments ago the Obama administration made a stunning admission, when for the first time it revealed on the record that the Saudis were the original source of funding for Al Qaeda.

As Politico reports, Obama's deputy national security adviser, Ben Rhodes, while speaking to David Axelrod in Monday's edition of "The Axe Files" podcast said that the government of Saudi Arabia had paid "insufficient attention" to money that was being funneled into terror groups and fueled the rise of Al Qaeda when he was asked about the validity of the accusation that the Saudi government was complicit in sponsoring terrorism.



Deputy National Security Adviser For Strategic Communications Ben Rhodes

At first, he tried to tone down what amount to the first official admission of Saudi involvement in September 11, saying "I think that it’s complicated in the sense that, it’s not that it was Saudi government policy to support Al Qaeda, but there were a number of very wealthy individuals in Saudi Arabia who would contribute, sometimes directly, to extremist groups. Sometimes to charities that were kind of, ended up being ways to launder money to these groups."


But moments later the truth came out when he said "So a lot of the money, the seed money if you will, for what became Al Qaeda, came out of Saudi Arabia," he added.

And then the punchline came out when Axelrod asked if "that happen without the government’s awareness?" To which Rhodes responded that he doesn’t believe the government was “actively trying to prevent that from happening."

In other words, the Saudi government knew that "a number of very wealthy Saudi individuals" were funneling funds into what would become the organization blamed for the attack on the twin towers.

As Politico adds, "the remarks from Rhodes come as Obama prepares to head to Saudi Arabia on Wednesday and confront the strained relations between the two allies. The Saudis are still fuming over an Atlantic magazine article that described Obama's frustrations with Saudi Arabia's religious ideology, its treatment of women and its rivalry with Iran. Obama also suggested in the piece that Saudi Arabia and other Gulf Arab states are "free riders" who rely too much on the U.S. military."

Friction has also been created by a push from relatives of people who died on 9/11 and a bipartisan group of lawmakers to allow U.S. courts to hold the Saudi government responsible if it is found to have played a role in the 2001 attack.



Deceased Saudi King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz al-Saud presents
Barack Obama with the King Abdul Aziz Order of Merit

The conversation turned even more awkward when Axelrod, who as Obama's former senior advisor, knows very well of Saudi involvement with both Al Qaeda and Sept 11, pushed Rhodes on at-times awkward dynamic between the U.S. and Saudi Arabia, asking, "How do you explain that to Americans, that, you know, on the one hand we call them an ally on the other hand they have these deep roots in these extremist elements?"

"I would stop short of saying that there was any willful government intention from Saudi Arabia to support Al Qaeda,” Rhodes said. “I think the difficult thing that Americans need to understand is we forge these relationships with governments because we have some shared interest with them.”

In other words, the state which even the U.S. government admits is behind Al Qaeda gets a pass because "we have some shared interest with them" - a shared interest that is clearly over and beyond revealing the government's role in the biggest terrorist attack on U.S. soil.

Rhodes added that for a long time the main interest was oil and security which meant that the U.S. was “slow to pay attention to that [connection to extremist groups] because the way the relationship was set up was we just kind of thought about security and oil and didn’t kind of go that other layer down.”

But now that the U.S. has its own shale industry which incidentally is being crushed due to Saudi overproduction policy, the shared interest no longer exists.

And yet, as White House spokesman Josh Earnest reported earlier, Obama is still refusing to pass the one Bill that could finally reveal just how extensive Saudi involvment truly was in the September 11 attack.

So while we watch in shock as yet another conspiracy theory becomes conspiracy fact, we wonder how much longer will Americans tolerate a president - whether republican or democrat - who puts national interests measured in barrels of oil and avoids exposing rogue foreign billionaire murderers, above the lives of thousands of Americans killed by terrorists funded by this same government.



President Obama at a Sept. 11 ceremony in 2015.

We also wonder if today's dramatic official admission of Saudi involvement in the Sept 11 attacks will not only infuriate even more Americans disenchanted with the fake left-right political divide, but also whether it will be grounds for US bond yields to tick up a few basis points tomorrow if Saudi Arabia finally decide to make good on its threat launch a warning salvo to the Obama administration to end the very "undiplomatic" revelations by selling a few billions in 10 Year bonds.
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Re: Why now? (Saudis and 9/11)

Postby JackRiddler » Mon Apr 18, 2016 11:39 pm

Seed money? Saudi was the Devil VC, but the concept is spelled C-I-A.

Not so fast, either.

White House signals veto on Saudi 9/11 bill
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing- ... -9-11-bill

Why now? Because people fought for it the whole time.

"Re-classification" is apparently in the works.
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Re: Why now? (Saudis and 9/11)

Postby Nordic » Tue Apr 19, 2016 12:37 am

JackRiddler » Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:39 pm wrote:Seed money? Saudi was the Devil VC, but the concept is spelled C-I-A.

Not so fast, either.

White House signals veto on Saudi 9/11 bill
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing- ... -9-11-bill

Why now? Because people fought for it the whole time.

"Re-classification" is apparently in the works.



Right. 60 Minutes ignored this for 15 years and is only serving it up to American brains now because "people fought for it". Okay whatever you say.
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Re: Why now? (Saudis and 9/11)

Postby Novem5er » Tue Apr 19, 2016 12:59 am

Reading over the recent news articles has woken up a long latent anger in me. None of this is "new" to me, but to have it officially confirmed and discussed in public? What are people going to do?

Yes, anyone over the age of 30 is going to be pissed. But then what are they going to do? What am I going to do? That might be a better question.
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Re: Why now? (Saudis and 9/11)

Postby Nordic » Tue Apr 19, 2016 2:03 am

If there was ever a time for some kind of revolution, a thorough cleaning house, this would be it.

It's staggering who's involved. How many people
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Re: Why now? (Saudis and 9/11)

Postby Novem5er » Tue Apr 19, 2016 2:12 am

The public sentiment seems more ripe for revolution than in my adult lifetime. You have the Trump supports on the right, Bernie supporters on the left, and the tea party religious people still struggling to be heard and shut down most of the government. Everybody is pissed, but not sure what to do about it other than Vote for Some Guy.
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Re: Why now? (Saudis and 9/11)

Postby Harvey » Tue Apr 19, 2016 4:18 am

To cross fertilise between threads, some in power are genuinely waking up from a 'mass psychosis,' a shared dream. Some are cynically manipulating the release of (mis)/information for specific purposes. Some know damn well what happened. Some are using this as a stick to beat Obama. Some are simply playing a game, incapable of feeling. Some know that implicating any former government in high crimes will taint the office they currently hold and erode their power. Some want to do the right thing but don't know what that might be. Some would rather endure ridicule than dishonour the very lives others claim to be concerned for. Many haven't given the matter much thought. All are responding to the pressure from below, one way or another.

In tribute to the many individuals whose names regularly featured here in the last decade, without their strength, bravery, imagination, hard work, constant clarity and insistence upon evidence despite the self doubt and the ridicule and the diversions heaped upon them, there might well be no opportunity. Jeff is one of them. The solid threads across the 9/11 truth movement, those universally agreed elements can and should emerge from the current narrative. SLAD has already been diligently and patiently representing that effort in this thread.

Remember how disillusioned you were when you finally realised the nature of it all? There are many who are beginning to or are about to lose their faith, whatever it was. The task as always is to support and guide them, help to build something better.
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Re: Why now? (Saudis and 9/11)

Postby backtoiam » Tue Apr 19, 2016 11:20 am

Maybe this is an attempt to sweep the truth under the rug once and for all. They could claim that the Saudis masterminded, planned, and carried out the event all on their own. Provide tangible money trails and documents. Portray the Bush administration as a bunch of bumbling fools that got hoodwinked by the evil Saudis. Claim that the matter is settled and hope it goes away.

Mainstream talking heads keep portraying the middle east wars as a failed endeavor. It didn't fail. They got what they went there for. They stole and carved up the resources, captured the banks, mining resources, and stole gold supplies. Mission accomplished.

The total and utter domination of the Saudis may be the last act in this pre-planned 7 country murder spree. Maybe the ptb will do whatever it is they intend to do with the Saudis, like maybe stop paying the Saudis their middleman fee because they are no longer needed now that these middle east countries have been subdued, robbed, and loaded with debt. Declare 9/11 fully solved and settled once and for all.

The young 30 year old prince that has stepped up to the plate claims Saudi intends to create a 2 trillion dollar investment fund that will be structured to include investments that exclude the oil business and diversify away from oil. If the ptb intends to cut Saudi out of their middleman oil broker fee all these pieces would sort of fit and fall together it seems.
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Re: Why now? (Saudis and 9/11)

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Apr 19, 2016 1:33 pm

‘Saudi Arabia could expose those complicit in 9/11 if Obama releases secret Congressional report’
Published time: 19 Apr, 2016 11:46
i Arabia is motivated by the Wahhabist version of Islam, which tells people to fight the infidel and in return we will protect your family and give you money, Colin Cavell, Assistant Professor of American Studies at the University of Bahrain told RT.

US President Obama is arriving in Riyadh on Wednesday, to meet King Salman. The talks are expected to focus on counter-terrorism. However, there are some major disagreements between the two countries. Relatives of the victims who died in the September 11 attacks are calling on Obama to reveal details from a confidential Congressional report, which many believe provides a link between Saudi Arabia and 9/11.

RT: If Washington follows through on this threat what could be the impact for relations between the US and Saudi Arabia?

Colin Cavell: Well, they wouldn’t dare follow through on that threat, because that would mean the US would no longer protect and give succor to the Kingdom - this most reactionary, unelected monarchy in the Middle East. So it is a backchannel to certain powers in the US: Please don’t pursue this, because we can expose certain families in the US and certain individuals who are also complicit in the events of 9/11.

A member of the FDNY salutes after laying a flower during a commemoration ceremony marking the 23rd anniversary of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing at the north reflecting pool of the 911 Memorial in New York © Shannon Stapleton9/11 families hit Obama for ‘siding with Saudi Arabia,’ want secret report declassified
RT: Both countries have always claimed to be close allies. How close are the ties between the two countries?

CC: Ever since President Franklin D. Roosevelt established diplomatic relations with King Ibn Saud before WWII to get oil reserves so the US could be victorious in the war, we [the US] have made an implicit deal with the devil. We will support Saudi Arabia and keep the House of Saud ruling there as long as they provide cheap oil.

International law agreements must be kept, but there is also a condition of international law that when conditions change then the different powers can alter their agreements. And believe me, the conditions have changed, because Saudi Arabia is the instigator now of wars against Bashar al-Assad in Syria; the overthrow of the elected government in Egypt; wars in Yemen; occupation of Bahrain, etc., etc., etc. It’s causing many lives to be lost and much pressure on the US. So this relationship is unstable and untenable.

RT: Just ahead of the visit, Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes raised concerns over Saudi Arabia's alleged links with terrorist groups. How could this affect Obama's visit?

CC: It started back when the Soviets were helping President [Mohammad] Najibullah in Afghanistan. Even Hillary Clinton admitted the US, along with Saudi Arabia, helped to create Al-Qaeda using jihadist Takfiri fighters to counter the Najibullah government and the Soviets. So they have continued to utilize this type of poor, unemployed people who are motivated by religious reasons. In Saudi Arabia they are motivated by the Wahhabist version of Islam, which tells then to go fight the infidel and we will protect your family and give you money.

They’ve used these types of fighters to wage counter-revolution primarily against the Arab Spring revolt that started in 2011- late 2010 that people of the region want democracy. Saudi Arabia doesn’t want any form of democracy – the whole kingdom is anathema to any form of democratic rule. So people are looking to where democracy is in the region. They see it in the Republic of Iran, where they have had democratic elections since their revolution; they have a say in their government; their people are having a progressive society; women are not prohibited from driving, from working, for making their own decisions – and that is what people want. They want to live in the modern world. And Saudi Arabia is an anachronism; it is an antique that doesn’t correspond with modern business relations.
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Re: Why now? (Saudis and 9/11)

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Apr 19, 2016 1:48 pm

Saudi Arabia's money ties to the U.S. are massive...and murky
by Matt Egan and John Defterios @CNNMoneyInvest
April 19, 2016: 10:15 AM ET


Saudi Arabia's tensions with U.S. magnified by cheap oil
Here's a guessing game with scary implications: how much of America does Saudi Arabia own?
By virtue of its vast oil riches, the Saudi kingdom is widely believed to be one of the biggest owners of U.S. debt.
But there's a lot of mystery over exactly how much. The Saudi central bank is sitting on an incredible $584 billion of foreign currency reserves, but doesn't disclose how much of that is parked in U.S. Treasuries.
The U.S. Treasury Department does not really divulge that information either, even though it breaks out the amount of U.S. federal debt held by most countries such as Japan, China or Russia. Since the 1970s, Saudi Arabia's holdings of Treasuries are lumped together with that of other oil exporting nations like Venezuela and Iraq. Collectively, these nations hold $281 billion of Treasuries.
"We did it many years ago to smooth relations," Edwin Truman, a senior Treasury Department official during the 1990s, said of the Saudi move. "It's an anachronism and foolish."
A Treasury spokesperson declined to tell CNNMoney whether the policy is being revisited. She simply cited U.S. policy to pool Treasury ownership stats together where detailed reporting "might disclose the positions of individual holders."
Related: Foreign governments dump U.S. debt at record rate
The Saudi mystery has taken on greater urgency these days. Since the end of 2014, the Saudis have burned through $139 billion of reserves -- almost definitely a portion of it came from selling U.S. debt -- as the country grapples with the budget shortfalls brought on by the oil crash.
There have also been rising tensions between the U.S. and Saudi Arabia ahead of President Obama's trip there on Wednesday.
Sources told CNN that Saudi Arabia recently threatened to sell off American assets if Congress passes a bill that would allow 9/11 victims to sue foreign governments.
A source familiar with the Saudi asset portfolio told CNNMoney the government is "serious" about this. "If Congress goes ahead with passage of that legislation, there has to be a response," the source said.
saudi us money ties
Related: Saudis warn of economic reprisals if 9/11 bill is passed
Dumping a huge amount of U.S. debt at one time would likely cause Treasuries to tank, potentially destabilizing financial markets.
In response, White House spokesman Josh Earnest told reporters on Monday: "I'm confident that the Saudis recognize, just as much as we do, our shared interest in preserving the stability of the global financial system."
The Saudi threat strikes many experts as empty because it would amount to a fire sale that would likely severely hurt the value of the Saudis' own holdings. And any ripple effects on the U.S. dollar could also backfire because the Saudi riyal is pegged to the dollar.
"It's not a realistic threat, at least not in a rational world," said Truman. "My suspicion is the political side of the Saudi government is talking -- and it's not a position shared by the financial side of the government."
Prince Mohammed bin Salman, the deputy crown prince and son of the king, has recently consolidated power over financial decision making. However, Fitch Ratings recently warned it's unclear how much support the deputy crown prince has within the royal family and the power grab has "reduced the predictability of decision-making."
Related: Fitch: Political risks rise in Saudi Arabia
Even if the Saudis go through with their asset sale, Guy LeBas, chief fixed income strategist at Janney Capital Markets, believes the U.S. bond market would quickly recover.
"Demand right now is so enormous that there are plenty of other buyers who could absorb that," said LeBas.
The Saudis would be risking their cozy relationship with the American military. The Fifth Fleet of the U.S. Navy protects shipments in the Persian Gulf, including the supertankers carrying Saudi crude. And some U.S. lawmakers already want to restrict American arm sales to Saudi Arabia.
"The Saudi government for 70 years has survived on a deep security relationship with the United States. I don't think they want to trash that relationship," Jon Alterman, director of the Middle East program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, told CNN.
Certain members of the Saudi royal family also have other ties with prominent U.S. businesses. For example, Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal is a significant shareholder in Twitter (TWTR, Tech30) , Rupert Murdoch's Twenty-First Century Fox (FOXA) and even ride-sharing platform Lyft.
Saudi Arabia has never been formally implicated in 9/11 and the kingdom has long denied it had a role. However, many 9/11 hijackers were Saudi nationals and there is much controversy over 28 pages of the 9/11 Commission Report that remain classified and are believed to focus on the role of foreign governments.
Terry Strada, whose husband died in the 9/11 attacks, believes the Saudi asset dump threat speaks volumes.
"They would be ruining their entire economy to just not have what's in the 28 pages released? It tells you they're a little bit afraid of what's in there," Strada told CNN.
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Re: Why now? (Saudis and 9/11)

Postby NeonLX » Tue Apr 19, 2016 2:11 pm

Wut? 9/11...when was that?

My teevee is got 21 sports channels. My girlfriend likes to watch them cooking shows and Judge Judy.

Them Muslims is gonna take over are country, Ain't no one listening to me though.
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Re: Why now? (Saudis and 9/11)

Postby backtoiam » Tue Apr 19, 2016 2:58 pm

The Implosion of the House of Saud
By Pepe Escobar
Global Research, April 15, 2016
Strategic Culture Foundation 14 April 2016
Region: Middle East & North Africa
Theme: Global Economy, Oil and Energy

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The Panama Papers psyops revealed that – ailing – King Salman of Saudi Arabia is among a roast of notorious offshore profiteers “in relation” to “associates”.

The House of Saud used British Virgin Islands shell companies to take out at least $34 million in mortgages for lavish houses in London and “a luxury yacht the size of a football field”. And yet Western corporate media has given it a glaring pass. Quite predictable: House of Saud notables feature heavily among prime Western vassals.

As it stands, a major disconnect is also in effect. The House of Saud is busy spinning the need for austerity at home even as it is now positioned as the world’s third-largest spender on weapons, ahead of Russia.

“Austerity” is a bit rich when I revealed earlier this year that the House of Saud not only unleashed an oil price war – against Russia, Iran and the US shale oil industry – but also was busy unloading at least $1 trillion in US securities on the market to balance its increasingly disastrous budget.

And now we have a major PR offensive in Western corporate media by Warrior Prince Mohammad bin Salman, 30, (image right) the lead conductor of the disastrous, illegal and crammed with civilian collateral damage war on Yemen. Young Salman is selling himself as an Arab David Bowie – the Man Who Changed the World, mostly because of his desire to partially privatize Aramco and partially extract Saudi Arabia from its strict role as an oil hacienda by creating a $2 trillion fund.

For the US, UK and France, especially, Saudi Arabia is the proverbial “key ally”. It’s not only the – again proverbial – second-largest oil reserves in the world, and the notorious Mob-style 1945 “protection” deal struck between Roosevelt and Ibn Saud. It’s the House of Saud as the key anchor for the petrodollar; and the House of Saud consistently buying over $100 billion in weapons from the West in the past few years.

Yet, in parallel, Saudi Arabia – a mix of theocracy and absolute monarchy, complete with a gaggle of intolerant, fundamentalist imams – keeps perpetuating its role of ideological matrix to all strands of Salafi-Jihadism, including of course its latest incarnation: the phony ISIS/ISIL/Daesh “Caliphate”. The House of Saud, directly and indirectly, has lavished over $100 billion all across the lands of Islam – and beyond – to spread its fundamentalist Wahhabi “vision”.

A glimpse behind the velvet curtains

For a while there have been incessant rumors, from London to New York, and across the Middle East, of a possible coup in Riyadh.

Now a policy-making source with intimate knowledge not only of the House of Saud but its real masters in the Washington/Wall Street axis has offered an unprecedented glimpse into the current, groundbreaking power play in the Kingdom.

According to the source,

“Prince Mohammed bin Salman really does realize what is happening. He is being set up. He is surrounded by consultants going over the entire Saudi economic system aiming for its reorganization – which is certainly necessary. And some of these consultants at the same time are organizing the data for the CIA. This would make any transition away from the monarchy – which the CIA loathes – much easier, towards a favored military officer”.

And this would also imply that some of Aramco’s Western employees – hired to hold the place together – are your proverbial CIA agents; a classic cover for clandestine ops.

The whole process started a while ago, in April 2014, when there were rumblings in Riyadh about a move to get rid of King Abdullah. Eventually a compromise was struck; Bandar bin Sultan, a.k.a. Bandar Bush – who badly bundled the war in Syria via his sponsorship of an army of Jihadis – was fired as the real culprit in this Saudi-led war of terror. And Prince Mohammed bin Nayef was promoted to number two in the Kingdom – duly under the orders of His Masters’ Voice in Washington. As he was anointed Crown Prince, Nayef was all but enshrined as the next King in the succession of King Salman.

What the publicity-savvy young Salman wants is to turn the tables. He sees himself as his father’s successor. Yet internal resistance is fierce. According to the source, “it does not play well among the poor masses of the Kingdom that he brags about a two-trillion-dollar stock value of Aramco when they are suffering the removal of House of Saud subsidies”. As for the Saudi oil wealth, the young Salman deceptively does not believe “the decline in oil prices poses a threat to us, for us it’s a free market that is governed by supply and demand”.

Our source is adamant that

“Mohammed bin Nayef is very capable and a very effective fighter against terrorism. He is mature, stable, capable and talented. The problem is there is growing discontent in the Kingdom over the oil price war ordered by Washington. Consultants meanwhile are pressing Mohammed bin Salman to cut subsidies. That is certain to disorient the masses towards him. And this gives, then, a justification for any coup whereby the population is neutralized”.

Which brings us to the all-important massive weapons purchases angle:

“This has to do with the efforts of Mohammed bin Salman to create a strong Saudi army, in combination with military alliances with Pakistan and Egypt, which are paid for allies. Money is being thrown around all over, while subsidies are to be cut. This will only add more pressure on the monarchy”.

The military front is not exactly a win for the Salmans, father and son. Sisi in Cairo certainly balks at the notion of having Egyptian troops trapped in a Yemen quagmire. Same with Sharif in Islamabad – who refused to send a Pakistani contingent.

So King Salman was forced to turn towards India’s Prime Minister Narendra Modi. After all there are 3 million Indian workers in Saudi Arabia, and India imports 20% of its oil from Saudi Arabia. Still, no Indian troops.

Both India and Pakistan clearly see, this is all part of Riyadh’s extensive, paranoid anti-Iran campaign. India and Iran are partners in the expansion of the New Silk Roads across Eurasia. And Iran-Pakistan are key partners in Pipelineistan – via the IP gas pipeline.

Time to line up for a cab?

The possibility of a coup in Riyadh further on down the road still remains. It boils down to Exceptionalistan’s control. Saudi Arabia under the Warrior Prince cannot possibly be trusted, according to influential sectors in the Beltway. Turkey is now considered out of control; Sultan Erdogan being snubbed in Washington by Obama could even turn out to be the prelude for his eventual removal by the Turkish military, which are really under Exceptionalistan’s control. Iran cannot be counted on – because for Tehran the priority is Eurasia integration and a closer strategic relationship with both Russia and China.

Arguably the House of Saud could turn things around by raising the oil price to $100 a barrel, via a 10% cutback in production worked out with Russia at the upcoming meeting in Doha; and realign their policies with Russia as a balancing power. Forget it; it’s not bound to happen.

What’s fascinating in this running Saudi House of Cards plot is that, according to our source, “King Abdullah was someone that could be argued to be useful to the United States to maintain the stability of oil supply”. But influential Beltway players do not regard Salman or his son that way; especially the son is thought of as “erratic and unstable”.

Once again: control, control, control. Our source explains how

“the West has educated Saudi Arabia’s military officers – who are often Western intel agents. That’s why Crown Prince Sultan never trusted them and purposely kept the military weak when he was Defense Minister. He feared them as the privileged source in a takeover of the country. And he was certainly correct. In the CIA’s eyes, the Saudis need outside supervision. And this is one of the reasons for the CIA’s desire for regime change, as the place is spiraling out of control”.

Yet here’s another key disconnect. The CIA believes the House of Saud to be the chief sponsors of global terrorism. But that’s not true. Most of these terror ops are 21st century remixes of Operation Gladio. And that implies the hand of NATO/Pentagon. This disconnect partially explains why the Pentagon and the CIA are at each other’s throats.

It’s still unclear which US intel faction will eventually prevail in Riyadh – and that may further change depending on who will be the tenant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue next year.

For the moment, quite a few influential players are fond of imagining an astonishing House of Saudi fortune, including Thousand-and-One nights-style assets of the extended royal family, all frozen overseas, from the US to Panama. With the inevitable corollary of thousands of princes lining up for cab driver jobs in London and New York.

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