Why now? (Saudis and 9/11)

[seemslikeadream]

certain governments of certain countries MIHOP

certain governments of certain countries LIHOP



certain dual citizens MIHOP

certain dual citizens LIHOP

certain dual citizens helped certain U.S. government officials cover it up




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September 19, 2011

President Obama has appointed Philip Zelikow to serve on the President’s Intelligence Advisory Board the White House.



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I was banned from DU because I would not stop posting about Zelikow

[82_28]

I so want to see Zelikow in prison.

He'll never ever see a day in prison, he is the key to unlocking the whole farce. They will shield him at ALL costs. This criminal gang has gone on, and will continue to go on, sabotaging any and all attempts to be held accountable. Face it. We lost. They won. And it will never ever ever be uncovered. Or examined and made right.They are mafia and the own this country. No one is going to save us, End of story.

Not arguing, but what did "we" lose? We were startled awake as if in the night and never playing the game. Sure "they" won but the general consensus is what it is and will remain so. I have no idea why. It is black and white when it comes to what people think. I spent oh about the last 15 years avoiding any conversation with the public about what I really think. Years have gone by where people who treat off hand comments I may have made and read into them and was always labelled a "conspiracy theorist" which makes you think twice about bringing up what you actually really think. My famous last words for just about anything, not just 9/11, is I don't believe that shit. It's simple skepticism. I think it's healthy but it doesn't get you anywhere. It is good to always question and that's why I can watch fox news for short periods of time -- short.

Life should not be spent trying to convince people you are right about "facts" -- it should be looked at as people are urging you to think. The meta-narrative is the "big kahuna" as it were. Including myself, why do people settle with pat answers? The answer is simple. It was time traveling orbs that created plumes of smoke that looked like satan. Everyone knows that.

Just for starters, why was that film crew in place interviewing NYFD in a time before camera phones? How were the crashes into the towers knowable in order to film it all by the major networks? Maximum emotional impact. Oh of course we could all go on and on. I just had to get that out of my system for a moment.

[Karmamatterz]

But Im predicting IF the 28 pages are redacted, and Saudi is exposed, it will hit with a "meh" on social media and the popular consciousness who have long moved on from even caring.

Exactly.

Unless this is pushed hard and heavy by the mainstream media the public won't care. They've been indoctrinated that anything outside the norm is tinfoil hat. Move along...go back to shopping and Disney.

The fall of the House of Saud and or anarchy in Saudia Arabia will not happen. If it does go that far the U.S. will interven with military to protect oil fields and production. Unless of course there is a grand scheme to completely create a new paradigm.

[seemslikeadream]

like I care what the sheep think ....they are unimportant to me

all you youngsters have no idea what the word patience means....

I've waited 45 years for pot to become legal....


I've waited 40 years for Agent Orange sickness of family member to be recognized

It's only been 15 years.......


get a grip


god it took 10 years for Carol Burnet to win case against National Enquire!


the 9/11 family members will never give up.....


god ....my grandmas couldn't even vote till 1920


......and BTW when did it ever really matter what the "establishment" tried to put forth as true?

like pot is on par with heroin?

and Kennedy was killed by Oswald?

try waiting to use a public bathroom for 50 years

[seemslikeadream]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFrh9W0 ... ploademail

[brekin]

Wonder if some of this is a further sign of the falling fortunes of the House of Bush? Jeb is trumped by a game show host and assorted political mutants and now the Saudis have to perp walk with all the other Middle East bagmen.

[seemslikeadream]

Saudi Arabia Coerces US Over 9/11
April 18, 2016

Saudi Arabia is threatening to financially punish the U.S. if it holds the kingdom to account for its 9/11 role, coercion that hovers over President Obama’s new visit to the Saudi “allies” and that 9/11 widow Kristen Breitweiser condemns.

By Kristen Breitweiser

On Saturday, Mark Mazzetti wrote an article that appears on the front page of the New York Times called, “Saudis Tell U.S. To Back Off Bill On 9/11 Lawsuits.” The shocking title alone should make American citizens sit up and take notice.

When did the U.S. government start taking orders from foreign nations? Did I miss something? Have we become a foreign territory of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia? Did Saudi Arabia somehow become a branch of the U.S. government with sway over the President, Congress, and the Judiciary?


Mazzetti documents disturbing details that reveal a U.S. government not just taking and carrying out Saudi orders, but a U.S. President being brought to his knees by Saudi extortion. Mazzetti also summarizes the Obama Administration’s decision to support the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia over the 9/11 families’ right for justice and accountability for the 9/11 attacks.

The Saudis get such royal, preferential treatment because they’ve stomped their feet, threatened to pull all their money out of the U.S. economy and bankrupt the world if not given their way. As ridiculous as that threat sounds, the Obama administration is apparently very scared by it.

Currently, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has been dismissed from the 9/11 families’ lawsuit via their Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act (FSIA) protections. As a result, the court has yet to have the opportunity to see the evidence against the Kingdom with regard to their alleged role of financing the 9/11 attacks.

This sets a dangerous precedent since it means that as long as a foreign nation is not listed as a “known state sponsor of terrorism,” they are completely immune from being held accountable for any bad behavior or illegal acts they perpetrate inside the U.S. — yes, even the mass murder of 3,000 people on 9/11.

Suffice it to say, this isn’t your typical young Saudi prince getting a parking ticket for his gold Lamborghini. This is the Saudis getting a pass for funding mass murder — with the blessings of the U.S Government.

At a time when most can’t get Washington to agree on much of anything, the 9/11 families have been able to gather Members of Congress — both Democrats and Republicans, and as polar opposite as Al Franken and Ted Cruz — to work together on a vital piece of legislation called Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism (JASTA). Quite a feat. But then again, 9/11 has the unique ability to unite almost everyone together under that one broad undeniable theme: being a true American.

JASTA removes the protection of the FSIA from any nation (regardless of their status as an ally or named state sponsor of terrorism) that participates in a terrorist attack when the terrorist attack is perpetrated on U.S. soil. JASTA makes clear that U.S. citizens remain the priority not foreign nations that fund terror. Specifically, JASTA removes the Saudis’ use of the FSIA as a shield of immunity — allowing them to be brought to court to finally answer charges for their alleged role in the 9/11 attacks.

Clearly, the Saudis are deeply concerned about JASTA since it would mean all the incriminating evidence gathered against them and their alleged role in the 9/11 attacks would finally be revealed and presented in an open court of law — nearly 15 years after the crime was committed. Indeed, many who have seen this evidence have commented that Americans will find the information “shocking” and that the “revelations will require a complete re-appraisal of the U.S./Saudi relationship.”

Why should this vital information be kept from the 9/11 families and the American public by President Obama? Why should evidence of the mass murder of 3,000 people be kept out of a court of law? Why does the Obama White House oppose holding the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia accountable for their funding of terrorist acts, including the terrorist attacks of 9/11? Why isn’t the U.S. government protecting the rights of the U.S. victims of terrorist attacks?

It is bad enough that Wall Street tycoons got off the hook in 2008 because they were “too big to fail.” But, to re-victimize the 9/11 families in order to protect the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia because they are “too invested in the U.S. economy to be held accountable” is appalling. It is extortion — plain and simple.

We struggle to understand why the U.S. government led by President Obama would so willingly drop to its knees and bare its neck to the shiny sword of Saudi extortion. What has become of our country?

America needs elected officials and leaders who recognize that U.S. citizens are their constituents — not oil-rich nations that bankroll terrorists. America needs to send a clarion message to the world — if you murder our citizens, you will answer for it. And America should never succumb to extortion by terrorists.

Are we to do away and dispense with all laws and accountability everywhere leaving us with a sort of Wild West environment where murder by the wealthy is OK, and rule of law is secondary to greed and power?

We call upon every member of Congress and all presidential candidates to endorse JASTA and to publicly rebuke such Saudi extortion. And we ask President Obama, to ignore the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia’s undue influence and extortion attempts by passing JASTA now.

Kristen Breitweiser is a 9/11 widow and activist who – working with other 9/11 widows known collectively as the “Jersey Girls” – pressured the U.S. government to conduct a formal investigation into the terror attacks on Sept. 11, 2001. Follow Kristen Breitweiser on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kdbreitweiser. [This article originally appeared as a blog post at HuffingtonPost.]

with the blessings of the U.S Government

[seemslikeadream]

Has Obama Read the Report? White House Dodged Saudi-9/11 Question Every Day Last Week
Monday, 18 April 2016 00:00
By Sam Sacks, The District Sentinel | Report


Despite several requests from the White House press corps, top administration spokesman Josh Earnest refused to ask President Obama last week if he has read a classified section of the Congressional 9/11 inquiry -- one that could implicate Saudi Arabia in the attacks.

The secret text has become an issue in recent days following a "60 Minutes" report that aired this month. Former Sen. Bob Graham (D-Fla.), the co-chair of the joint Congressional inquiry, told the CBS News magazine that the chapter reveals the 9/11-hijackers received "substantial" support from elements of Saudi society, including the government and wealthy charities.

Though Graham has made similar claims in the past and calls to release the 28-page-section in question predate the Obama White House, the "60 Minutes" segment ratcheted up pressure on the administration to reverse the report's classification. Following the airing of the Graham interview, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-California) also called for release of the chapter, stating that "the Bush Administration's refusal to do so was a mistake."

The segment and the reaction led to questions from reporters every day last week at White House press briefings. Reporters want to know whether or not President Obama has even read the section. Earnest still apparently refuses to answer the question -- at least publicly.

Last Monday, Earnest's response to whether or not Obama had read the 28 pages and if he had an opinion on them was a simple, "I don't know."

"But we can check on that," he added.

Come Tuesday, Earnest had yet to follow through. "I can't tell you whether or not the President has read these 28 pages," he told the assembled press corps once again.

"You haven't had a chance to ask him?" one member responded.

"I have not asked him about that," Earnest replied.

The following day, the press chief was called on to respond to a Tampa Bay Times report stating that former Sen. Graham was told by the administration that the 28 pages would be re-classified in the next two months.

"Have the President and Mr. Clapper had a conversation about this?" a reporter asked, referring to James Clapper, the Director of National Intelligence. Clapper's office (ODNI) is currently conducting a declassification review of the section.

"I'm not aware of any specific conversations between the two of them on this," Earnest responded. He added simply that there's hope ODNI will complete its review before the end of the President Obama term.

On Thursday, NBC reporter Ron Allen asked Earnest the exact same question that was asked on last Monday and Tuesday. After Earnest replied, again, in the negative, Allen followed up: "Do you intend to? Or is there some reason you haven't?"

"It hasn't been on the list of things I've talked to him about," Earnest claimed, parrying the inquiry for the fourth straight day.

"So at this point we don't know whether he's read this, or requested it, or not," a frustrated Allen replied.

"I'll see if I can get some more information about it," Earnest repeated.

During Sunday's "60 Minutes" report, Sen. Bob Graham said that he remains "deeply disturbed by the amount of material that has been censored from this report."

A House Resolution calling on the president to declassify portions of the report has 42 bipartisan cosponsors.

[Nordic]

It took 15 years, but there are a lot of signs the White House is going to finally release the 28 pages that strongly implicate Saudi Arabia was behind 9/11. Way too many Republican and Democrat beltway insiders indicating this, and putting the pressure on the White House.

I've been saying it for years, but the US has to cut all ties with Saudi Arabia. For a "wealthy kingdom", to both be funding the world's Sunni terrorism, causing wars in the Middle East and
having extreme anti woman/gay/ect death penalty laws is absolutely disgusting.

The 9/11 truthers have been waiting and praying for 15 years for "9/11 truth" to come out in the open, well this is as close as you'll get. And I do not feel exposing Saudis as 9/11 masterminds is a "limited hangout" since
it goes without saying how CLOSE the Bush family/US government, UK government, Pakistan and (yes) Israel are to the Saudi Kingdom. And we know what that means re: 9/11.

But Im predicting IF the 28 pages are redacted, and Saudi is exposed, it will hit with a "meh" on social media and the popular consciousness who have long moved on from even caring.

I disagree. I think anyone over the age of 30 is gonna be murderously angry.

[zangtang]

full extent of the Bush family's involvement would be hugely interesting

[82_28]

Why the fuck does my last name keep coming up in this? 28 means TWENTY EIGHT CENTS.

[82_28]

[JackRiddler]

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[82_28]

It was my cash turn in two days in a row!

[thatsmystory]

It took 15 years, but there are a lot of signs the White House is going to finally release the 28 pages that strongly implicate Saudi Arabia was behind 9/11. Way too many Republican and Democrat beltway insiders indicating this, and putting the pressure on the White House.

I've been saying it for years, but the US has to cut all ties with Saudi Arabia. For a "wealthy kingdom", to both be funding the world's Sunni terrorism, causing wars in the Middle East and
having extreme anti woman/gay/ect death penalty laws is absolutely disgusting.

The 9/11 truthers have been waiting and praying for 15 years for "9/11 truth" to come out in the open, well this is as close as you'll get. And I do not feel exposing Saudis as 9/11 masterminds is a "limited hangout" since
it goes without saying how CLOSE the Bush family/US government, UK government, Pakistan and (yes) Israel are to the Saudi Kingdom. And we know what that means re: 9/11.

But Im predicting IF the 28 pages are redacted, and Saudi is exposed, it will hit with a "meh" on social media and the popular consciousness who have long moved on from even caring.

I disagree. I think anyone over the age of 30 is gonna be murderously angry.

Will the media be able to contain the story? So far they have contained the 28 pages story.

1)The Obama administration has had eight years to conduct a review. A real media would say the Obama administration is stalling for time perhaps to give them an upper hand in negotiations with the Saudis.

2)This story is about the entire context of the war on terror which basically affects everybody on the planet. Taken at face value the story means the entire war on terror premise is false. If the Saudi sponsorship was part of a deep state psy-op then we are still talking about a war on terror narrative that is false. Pretending that the stakes are somehow not this important is media horseshit. Will the media contrast the policies of indefinite detention and torture with a 9/11 cover-up by the same officials who advocated for all this police state garbage? I would guess the media will attempt to ignore the massive inconsistencies.

3)Saudi conduct did not take place in a vacuum. The conduct of US intelligence has been kept secret as well. It doesn't get attention because US journalism refuses to investigate (i.e 60 Minutes pathetic failure to look into Soufan's allegation of CIA withholding).