Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

[Elvis]

One thing about Campos is that he was, according to an early report, hit by a ricochet; after being deflected, the bullet is considerable slowed down, which means less serious injuries. Apparently he walked around for at least an hour after the injury, but spent, what?—an entire week?—in the hospital. And now he's vamoosed.

Actually ricochet wounds wounds can be as bad or worse due to the fact that a ricocheted bullet is no longer symmetrical.

Well that's what I get for talking out of my ass.

In any case, I'm guessing the injury is being exaggerated. Campos walking around for more than an hour (then being sent away on his own to get medical attention?) doesn't seem to jibe with a severe wound requiring a week in the hospital. Just a guess.

[identity]

elfismiles » Wed Oct 11, 2017 7:14 pm
Eyewitness Report of Shooting at the Tropicana and NY NY - YouTube

Thanks for that, smiles!

Does this young man (along with his girlfriend-in-the-background-reliving-the-nightmare) strike anyone here as deluded, lying, acting, or an otherwise unreliable witness to what was taking place around him on the night of the shooting? His testimony (along with that of Renée and others) certainly gives us good reason to consider it likely that there were in fact shooters in at least several of the hotels that night (though whether any of them struck/hurt/killed anyone is another matter).

[stickdog99]

Las Vegas CSC Security Supervisor Dies in Bizarre One Car Traffic Accident

Man dies in accident on Interstate 15 Freeway in Fontana on Sept. 26

A man died in a solo vehicle accident on the southbound Interstate 15 Freeway in northwestern Fontana on the night of Sept. 26, according to the California Highway Patrol.

The crash occurred at 10:40 p.m. north of the Duncan Canyon Avenue interchange, when a 2016 GMC Yukon was traveling in the No. 2 lane at a speed of about 80 mph, the CHP said.

For an unknown reason, the Yukon drifted to the right and then hit a guard rail, overturned, and burst into flames, the CHP said.

The man was pronounced deceased at the scene by the San Bernardino County Fire Department.

http://www.accidentsinus.com/Accidents/ ... dec7145233

A person was killed in a fiery crash just before midnight Monday in the Fontana area, according to county fire reports.

The crash took place along the southbound 15 Freeway near Sierra Avenue, according to a Twitter post from San Bernardino County Fire.

The crash sparked a blaze that destroyed the vehicle and ignited a vegetation fire that burned through 2 acres of brush, according to the department.

One person was pronounced dead at the scene, but it’s unclear if the person was killed in the crash or as a result of the fire.

The identity of the person was not released.

http://www.dailybulletin.com/2016/09/27 ... ana-crash/

FONTANA >> A person was killed in a fiery crash just before midnight Monday in the Fontana area, according to county fire reports.

The crash took place along the southbound 15 Freeway near Sierra Avenue, according to a Twitter post from San Bernardino County Fire.

The crash sparked a blaze that destroyed the vehicle and ignited a vegetation fire that burned through 2 acres of brush, according to the department.

One person was pronounced dead at the scene, but it’s unclear if the person was killed in the crash or as a result of the fire.

The identity of the person was not released.

https://twitter.com/SBCOUNTYFIRE/status ... 0408720385

This man was who died in this bizarre, unexplained. and incredibly fiery one car crash was CSC supervisor Chiedu Onwughalu.

Note that this very guy would have supervised CSC's security for this year's Route 91 Harvest music festival had he lived! Not only that, but Larry Jesus Campos also lived in Fontana, CA until very recently, which is right where Chiedu Onwughalu met his fiery end.

[stickdog99]

CSC Chief: The only way you can prevent this from happening in to hire security to scan everything.

[Karmamatterz]

Has anybody head or read about ballistics reports being released to match up which guns in the hotel room were actually used in the shooting? I have found nothing.

[Brentos]

elfismiles » Wed Oct 11, 2017 7:14 pm
Eyewitness Report of Shooting at the Tropicana and NY NY - YouTube

Thanks for that, smiles!

Does this young man (along with his girlfriend-in-the-background-reliving-the-nightmare) strike anyone here as deluded, lying, acting, or an otherwise unreliable witness to what was taking place around him on the night of the shooting? His testimony (along with that of Renée and others) certainly gives us good reason to consider it likely that there were in fact shooters in at least several of the hotels that night (though whether any of them struck/hurt/killed anyone is another matter).

Yeah, thanks for finding that video.

I do not think that he is deluded, lying or acting. He seems like a bit of an adrenaline junkie based on his profile, which may be why he was able to respond in a way to the situation where he was able to rescue his girlfriend. He mentions that he has fired AR15s as well. As mentioned, the police scanner reports appear to back him up. There are mentions of 'diversions' in the scanner reports about some of the reported shooter events, not sure what that means.

Ed Opperman is confident that the surveillance footage in Mandalay, and in Vegas of the shooter will eventually be released, that it is the quantity of footage that needs to be examined before they do that, we shall see. This lack of evidence does fuel the real conspiracy theorists, who create their own narratives/theories based on their belief biases, as stefano pointed out, and could be deliberate.

[MacCruiskeen]

Video: Maintenance man fills in as understudy for missing Jesus Campos

A building engineer at the Las Vegas hotel where Stephen Paddock was holed up during his massacre last week described being pinned down in a hallway after the gunman opened fire on him from behind the door of his hotel suite shooting perch.

Stephen Schuck was one of the first people to encounter Paddock when he went to check out a faulty fire exit door on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay and Casino on Oct. 1, according to a new timeline of events.

So I searched google for the newly minted Maintenance Man Stephen Schuck and somehow caught somebody in the act of scrubbing away his internet profiles.

As we can see here, there used to be three entries for Stephen Schuck in Nevada, including one in Las Vegas:

https://archive.is/XTSxI

The same search strong that yielded those results an hour ago: https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CH ... 4US594&q=("Steve+Schuck"+OR+"Stephen+Schuck")+(Nevada+OR+NV)+"Las+Vegas"&oq=("Steve+Schuck"+OR+"Stephen+Schuck")+(Nevada+OR+NV)+"Las+Vegas"

I decided to search google for Stepen Schuck in Nevada. Here was my search string: https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CH ... a+OR+NV%29

Here was the search page returned:



I clicked on the second entry, which was Spokeo. It showed three profiles for Stephen Schuck, one old guy, one 25-year-old in Reno and one 23-year-old in Las Vegas. Unfortunately, I did not screen cap that page. I clicked on the Las Vegas entry at this url: https://www.spokeo.com/Stephen-Schuck/N ... 9013202269

I was greeted by this page:



Then when I hit the back button to my go back to the Spokeo page that had contained three entries one second before, it now contained just two entries.

Link: https://www.spokeo.com/Steve-Schuck/Nevada



No more Stephen Schuck, 23, in Las Vegas, Nevada, right before my very eyes! What a coincidence!

Thank you, again, this time for a simple but strong piece of investigative work no actual fucking salaried reporter would ever think of undertaking, for he knows that it's more than his job's worth.

It is incredible the abuse you've been getting here just for asking the most obvious questions about this ever-changing farrago, the resentment you're arousing (in some quarters) through your sheer persistence. More power to you.

So: Steven Schuck and Jesus Campos: Both of these alleged witnesses to that incredible scene -- 200 bullets fired into the hotel corridor through Paddock's closed door -- have now apparently vanished without trace. And there is no record of anyone else in the hotel having HEARD anything of this terrifying cacophony at all.

This despite the fact -- which we now have on record -- that even music can be clearly heard from a neighbouring room in the Mandalay.

[MacCruiskeen]

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As far as the LVPD knows, Paddock has zero motive for turning into the very first suicidal stranger only millionaire mass shooter in the entire history of the world. And all the demonizing reports that tried to furnish some sort of missing motive are utter bullshit.

The way I read this article is that all the shooting at Mandalay Bay took place in the room adjacent to Paddock's suite. Whoever was actually in that room shot Paddock and dropped a gun on this leg and is responsible for all other shooting, if any, that took place from that floor. The window in Paddock's room was probably knocked out long after the shooting ended, which would explain these images:



https://i.imgur.com/IIehxc3.png



https://i.imgur.com/oqp3tJM.png

That sounds like a plausible scenario, and those images are very interesting. The corner window does indeed look completely undamaged

The fact is, though, we have still seen not a single film or photo of ANY gunfire from the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Hotel. Allegedly more than a thousand bullets were fired, in sustained bursts of machine-gun fire. A cacophonous ten-minute-long barrage of fire through (we're told) two separate broken windows, one of them right on the corner - and there is no film of it?

Over 1.000 bullets fired from machine guns in a very prominent place -- yet it all remained completely invisible from outside the hotel, and practically inaudible inside it?

This is why I am wondering if any bullets were ever fired from the Mandalay at all.

[stickdog99]

One more tidbit. From everything I can discern, Larry Jesus Campos is a CSC special event security guard. He is NOT part of the regular MGM/Mandalay Bay security team. He was instead working security for the country music festival put on by MGM 500 yards away from the Mandalay Bay.

And no one has asked to date why he was even in the Mandalay Bay hotel.

https://www.gofundme.com/because-we-all ... e-together

My name is Lilly. I am raising funds to assist Jesus Campos a co-worker, that was injured during the tragic Las Vegas shooting. Unfortunately he was shot while on random patrol.

Exactly how random?

[MacCruiskeen]

^^Very random indeed: His random patrol took him away from the "special event" he was supposed to be guarding, over the road, into the Mandalay hotel foyer, and straight up to the 32nd floor. (This is only really imaginable with a vacant-eyed actor and a suitably spooky theremin soundtrack.)

What are the odds that this random patrol just happened to bring young Jesus straight to the hotel room of a man who just happened to be planning a massacre, but who only actually started that massacre a full six minutes after Jesus had wandered randomly up to his door? "Astronomical" doesn't begin to describe those odds. He must have been guided by God the Father. Either him or Satan.

Meanwhile, young Jesus is now incommunicado and under expensive armed guard in his own home. Spooky indeed. How can he afford it?

[Brentos]

^^Very random indeed: His random patrol took him away from the "special event" he was supposed to be guarding, over the road, into the Mandalay hotel foyer, and straight up to the 32nd floor. (This is only really imaginable with a vacant-eyed actor and a suitably spooky theremin soundtrack.)

What are the odds that this random patrol just happened to bring young Jesus straight to the hotel room of a man who just happened to be planning a massacre, but who only actually started that massacre a full six minutes after Jesus had wandered randomly up to his door? "Astronomical" doesn't begin to describe those odds. He must have been guided by God the Father. Either him or Satan.

Meanwhile, young Jesus is now incommunicado and under expensive armed guard in his own home. Spooky indeed.

Jesus Campo has to be a person of interest in all this.

[stefano]

Jesus Campo has to be a person of interest in all this.

Absolutely, that's why they don't want him talking to anyone. He was there in those 70 minutes between the end of the shooting and the official breach of the room, during which the crime scene was rearranged.

[stefano]

It is incredible the abuse you've been getting here just for asking the most obvious questions about this ever-changing farrago, the resentment you're arousing (in some quarters) through your sheer persistence. More power to you.

Pffff. He hasn't been getting any abuse here; disagreement isn't abuse. This is your problem: you take any disagreement personally and have a fit of the purple-faced shits when anyone doesn't agree with you on every specific. Toughen up please.

[MacCruiskeen]

It is incredible the abuse you've been getting here just for asking the most obvious questions about this ever-changing farrago, the resentment you're arousing (in some quarters) through your sheer persistence. More power to you.

Pffff. He hasn't been getting any abuse here; disagreement isn't abuse. This is your problem: you take any disagreement personally and have a fit of the purple-faced shits when anyone doesn't agree with you on every specific. Toughen up please.

Of course he has been getting abuse, as opposed to mere disagreement, and of course your second sentence is also a plain and demonstrable lie. Toughen up your reading comprehension, Mr oh-so-tough Spectator, please.

[MacCruiskeen]

Jesus Campo has to be a person of interest in all this.

Absolutely, that's why they don't want him talking to anyone. He was there in those 70 minutes between the end of the shooting and the official breach of the room, during which the crime scene was rearranged.

He has to be a prime suspect. He was there a full six minutes before the massacre began.