Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

[MacCruiskeen]

That celebrity comedian Ellen has some interest in LV slot machines and in some way is part and parcel to some supposed conspiracy to commit the largest fatality count of any mass shooting before is perverse.

If Missing the Point were an Olympic discipline, you'd be a gold medallist.

I'm not sure she "owns" the machines or whether she was paid a licensing fee by their manufacturer to have the games feature her image.

So go research it, as if it greatly matters. The point is that MGM and Ellen Degeneres are business partners with mutual contractual obligations. Therefore, "Ellen" can be relied upon to give that Designated Hero, MGM employee Jesus Campos, a very easy time of it, thus shielding MGM from any pesky lawsuits brought by bereaved families who are baffled and angered by this entire ever-changing farrago.



That's why Jesus and the Maintenance Man -- those two amazingly lucky alleged on-the-spot eyewitnesses to the worst gun-massacre in US history -- only finally condescended to face the US public on condition that their one-and-only "interviewer" would be a multi-millionaire Vegas slot-machine entrepreneur & MGM business-partner who also happens to present a "much-loved" weekly TV comedy show and schmaltzfest.

[MacCruiskeen]

Campos actually said without prompting that he did not call in his shooting on his radio to "keep the lines clear". He wanted to keep the lines clear? So hotel security could better respond to a spray of 200 bullets nobody else supposedly knew about at the time?

Ellen, of course, followed this up with a hard hitting giggle.

I just watched that a minute ago.
I thought he reported the shooting, realized after that he was hit, then didn't report that to "keep the lines clear".

Heroically inventive nonsense.

And Ellen, of course hers is a comedy entertainment show,
she doesn't pretend to be news or reporting,

Of course she does!
You yourself have just witnessed her doing
precisely that!

I wouldn't expect anything else but human interest puffery.

That's all it was,
and you are content
with that.

Though she did bring out the floor plan and her pointer!
Which actually clarified a couple things for me...

Of course you would say that.
That floor plan omitted
the connecting door
between rooms 32-134
and
32-135:

Whoever they were the two guys came off as genuine.
:

They would, to you.
Because there has never been an
Official Yarn
you have not been
completely content with
and keen to defend,
even when it is demonstrably
bullshit.

: coolshades :

on edit: image added

[Brentos]

what could possibly happen when a gun deal goes wrong

Also wanted to mention, that this reminds me of Abramoff and Atta's casino laundering connection, that even a site like '911Myths' cannot fully 'debunk':
http://www.911myths.com/html/atta_and_abramoff.html

Hopsicker reported on, and I think investigated this connection as well.

As an aside, and a little off topic, iirc, Hopsicker interviews the car rental agent on video who rented the car to Atta, the car that was found in the airport (with what looks like planted paraphernalia inside it). The rental agent says on video that Atta took out insurance on the car, everything, and based on everything that he did and how he acted, it certainly seemed like he was planing to bring the car back himself, rather than go on a suicide mission. From Hopsicker's reporting, Atta looks very much like a covert asset than the jihadist he was reported to be (he might of been both). So, going back to Oswald, and even before, there is this theme of cover stories and scapegoats, so it does not surprise me in the least that Paddock may not be what the media is saying, since these high profile events are managed from on high, by their very natuire. Also, for me at least, 911 was a deliberate PR event to deliberately traumatize and induce fear in the world, and quite likely had more going on than mere geo-political gain (though power is what it is seems to be about). So I look at that aspect too with this event.


And yeah, it might just be a gun deal gone wrong, and 'ISIS' were the shooters, and its been covered up?

[elfismiles]

So when the media reports that Paddock made his money playing "video poker" for hours on end ... that's somehow different than modern video enabled slot machines? I mean, when I first heard them mention the phrase video poker I immediately thought of online gaming, as in playing on your own laptop in the privacy of your home wearing only underwear. But then, if that's the case, why go to Vegas in the first place?



In the solitary world of video poker, Stephen Paddock knew how to win ...
www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-vegas-shoo ... story.html
Oct 9, 2017 - In the lonely world of video poker that Las Vegas gunman Stephen ... Walton said he saw Paddock make some mistakes. ... A player like him does not really lose money — they play within their means to an actual plan.".

Stephen Paddock and the World of Video Poker | The New Yorker
https://www.newyorker.com/news/.../step ... ideo-poker
Oct 5, 2017 - In 2016, Stephen Paddock moved to Mesquite, Nevada, a quiet retirement .... To make money playing video poker, it takes a lot of luck.

Stephen Paddock's $100-a-Hand Video Poker Sessions Revealed
https://www.cardschat.com › News Home › Scandals
Oct 10, 2017 - Las Vegas mass shooter Stephen Paddock was an avid video poker ... afford due to a succesful real estate portfolio that had made him millions.

Stephen Paddock Chased Gambling's Payouts and Perks - The New ...
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/04/us/s ... bling.html
Oct 4, 2017 - LAS VEGAS — The video poker machines that Stephen Paddock liked ... The night before the shooting, Mr. Paddock made two complaints to the hotel .... essentially free money casinos give loyal customers to gamble with.

Stephen Paddock, Las Vegas Suspect, Was a Gambler Who Drew ...
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/02/us/s ... ooter.html
Oct 2, 2017 - “He was a gambler, that was his job,” his brother, Eric Paddock, told reporters Monday at his home in Orlando. “He was a wealthy guy, playing video poker, who went cruising all ... “He helped me become affluent, he made me wealthy.” ... quantities of money and receive discounted hotel rooms, meals and ...

Paddock's game of choice, video poker, allowed him to blend in – Las ...
https://www.reviewjournal.com › Business › Casinos & Gaming
Oct 5, 2017 - Stephen Paddock's casino game of choice — video poker — was a perfect means to win money in a way that he ... “I would not have blinked for a second if I saw somebody making $100 bets at a video poker machine,” said a ...

Vegas shooter's gambling draws new attention to video poker - ABC ...
abcnews.go.com/.../vegas-shooters-gambling-draws-attention-video-poker-50296241
Oct 5, 2017 - Vegas shooter's gambling draws new attention to video poker. ... Paddock's brother has described the gunman as a high-stakes video poker ... and the payout, and they typically need access to a lot of money because they may have ... required currency reports of transactions he made greater than $10,000.

Las Vegas Shooting Made Ann Coulter A Video Poker Expert
https://themysticgambler.com/ann-coulte ... er-expert/
Oct 11, 2017 - Las Vegas Shooting Made Ann Coulter Investigate Video Poker Expert ... If Paddock wasn't making money on video poker — and he wasn't ...

Ann Coulter: Does anyone believe that the Vegas shooter made his ...
https://hotair.com/.../ann-coulter-anyo ... -gamblin...
7 days ago - Aren't you? If Paddock wasn't making money on video poker — and he wasn't — why would he be cycling millions of dollars through a casino, ...

Who is Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock - The Washington Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/.../las- ... -to-coun...
Oct 2, 2017 - “He's just a guy who played video poker and took cruises and ate ... It's a job where you make money,” said Eric Paddock, adding that his ...

[Brentos]

Thanks for the sources/links elfismiles.

[MacCruiskeen]

An Australian named Brian Hodge claims he was staying next door to Stephen Paddock, in Room 32-134. But this is the room with a broken window and wires entering it from the maid's trolley in the corridor. (Can't embed these four images; click on the right arrow to view them.)

???

[0_0]

2 weird vids i saw linked on reddit/r/conspiracy today:

one of the eyewitnesses seems to also have been on dr Phil which i suppose could happen:

https://twitter.com/DeepStvte/status/920310256852455427

and then from the same twitter account i saw this footage of the shooting:

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/920843716792795137 look at that guy defiantly standing up!

i hope these links work cos i dont really know twitter.. (that whole twitter account has lots of weirdness btw, like there's one lady who supposedly witnessed the san bernardino shooting and the las vegas shooting: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... acres.html )

personally i've given up on ever finding out anything for certain, people have been sleuthing on the internet for a good 20 years now and to no clear avail imo, but it is definitely so weird, i wish it wasn't sometimes.. for me the winning at videopoker was a clear signal that this was weird from the start also... and now ellen having her own machines, i know gambling addiction ruins lives, one of the worst addictions to have.. i rember ellen from playing this cute person in a 90s sitcom... it's all gone pearshaped.

[MacCruiskeen]

‘Ellen’ producers mum on how they landed Jesus Campos interview

By Christopher Lawrence Las Vegas Review-Journal
October 18, 2017 - 5:07 pm

https://www.reviewjournal.com/entertain ... interview/

Well, they would be, wouldn't they?

[DrEvil]

Also, to be honest, witness testimonies in this thread that I am referring to were cherry picked. It would be interesting to see eye witness testimonies of people that contradict the ones on this thread, or have people that clearly realized it was coming from Paddock's location. I do remember a photo of a guy giving the middle finger upwards (presumably to Paddock?).

Why on earth would you presume such a thing? Barracuda posted one (1) image of a guy vaguely gesturing upwards, but towards what was completely unclear. Certainly not at "Paddock".

It would be interesting to see eye witness testimonies of people that contradict the ones on this thread, or have people that clearly realized it was coming from Paddock's location

Or even from anywhere in the hotel at all. Such witnesses are practically non-existent, although it is such a very prominent, free-stranding TALL building, clearly visible from everywhere for at least half a mile around.

- Ach, the "official story" is just a complete load of crap. Only the braindead can swallow it without protest.

Why on earth would you presume such a thing? Barracuda posted one (1) image of a guy vaguely gesturing upwards, but towards what was completely unclear. Certainly not at "Paddock".

Minor nitpick: you're contradicting yourself here.

[MacCruiskeen]

In no way am I contradicting myself. Or are you claiming that that guy actually saw Stephen Paddock?

[DrEvil]

In no way am I contradicting myself. Or are you claiming that that guy actually saw Stephen Paddock?

Yes you are. You're claiming that we don't know what he's pointing at, and at the same time claiming that it certainly isn't Paddock. That's a contradiction. If we don't know what he's pointing at we can't know that it isn't Paddock (which I'm not saying it is, for the record, just that we don't know).

[elfismiles]

Thanks for the sources/links elfismiles.

Yer welcome - I just copied and pasted and becuz of the way google does its truncated links you'll have to hunt for some of them using the headlines.

I tried using an html to bbcode convertor but. .. .

[elfismiles]

An Australian named Brian Hodge claims he was staying next door to Stephen Paddock, in Room 32-134. But this is the room with a broken window and wires entering it from the maid's trolley in the corridor. (Can't embed these four images; click on the right arrow to view them.)

???

Paddock's Girlfriend Used Two Social Security Numbers and Was Married to Two Men at the Same Time

Article I can't get to copy at link:

http://www.newsweek.com/marilou-danley- ... ber-677033

Also is there something weird about the room Paddock allegedly shot from?

Photos show two windows that are broken with unbroken windows in between.

Are they separate windows?

Could there have been two shooters?

[MacCruiskeen]

Fine, have it your way, DrEvil, be that pedantic and may it give you much joy. I also cannot prove that The Gesturing Man did not in fact see (with his superhero eyesight) Jesus Campos or Ellen Degeneres or Dick Cheney at that window. But as you yourself say, this is all mere nitpicking and therefore a complete waste of everyone's time, so basta.
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[MacCruiskeen]

elfismiles, thanks very much for embedding those images.

This entire yarn is unbelievable. It literally cannot be believed.