Greer's recent presentations, as at the "LA Conscious Life Expo," has apparently caused a re-evaluation of what he's all about by longtime supporters. Some think he's been "spoken to," others that they were misled from the start as to his intentions.
I haven't had a chance to watch his Life Expo lecture - it was apparently removed from Google Video - but it's discussed in a
. It seems, though, rather than provide any tangible support for his contention that he has evidence of contact and imminent disclosure, he's taking an increasingly cult-like turn towards "space brother" metaphysics, and making extraordinary claims for his own experience. (Flying on a UFO, I believe, and 8-hours daily meditation when he was a child.)
I think he really shut the door on his own project - he could have kept all this mumbo jumbo to himself and let it play out - let the people and scientific community decide - and let the Government examine what he had before he come out with looking like some "Heavens Gate" operative
. It just sickens me - because a 'grass roots' organization such as the Disclosure Project perhaps had the power to get a large movement going to pressure the powers that be - now, everyone is going to see this garbage and poof - he is just another crackpot.
This really REALLY puts the UFO research field back many years
, and it really puts disclosure back many years. There are no more credible organizations left - are there??? LOL
I don't know - but if I was at that conference - I would have wanted to hear what was going on with 'disclosure' instead of hearing about metaphysical realities and communication with our "alien brothers" and garbage like that.
I would have created a scene.
"You gotta be kidding me - I thought you were going to talk about the Disclosure Project, not your new age spiritual awakening and belief systems. I want a refund."
My major concern is this: why didn't Mr. Greer go on tour for the Disclosure Project and present the facts about what he is doing to get disclosure on the issue by discussing what his 'witnesses' saw? why didn't he go on tour to discuss exactly what is being done to force the government to come clean?
Now, it seems he is on some kind of new age tour - and perhaps the Prophet Yahweh will be the opening act (and the Prophet Yahweh would have more credibility) <--- joke.
Sorry I am so infuriated about this... but I know the repercussions it is going to have. Now, any witness that Greer had is totally discredited
Good game of chess - the public just lost because of Greer: We are now in Checkmate.
(actually it was a poor game of chess, the public never had a chance).
I watched the "Lecture" directly from the original link before I read any of the comments posted, and I agree with practically everything already stated. I'am just flabbergasted!
A whole body of work sinks beneath a camped-up presentation that had practically nothing to do with the original goal of his organisation.
A better hatchet job I have never seen. Maybe he was payed a visit by the same people who suggested David Ickes lizardman punchline.
I'll cling to the hope that his G7 Close encounters scenario has some substance to it.
I have sympathy for his spiritual hypothosis, but this is going to seriously weeken his credibility as most of you have pointed out.
What a crying shame!
You know - I have talked with a few people 'in-the-know" (not about UFOs but other Top Secret stuff - which I will not discuss) and they suggested perhaps this is the case.
Perhaps he was approached and told "or else." This would enhance disbelief and shut down the disclosure project rapidly.
Does anyone know how long Greer has had this 'Spiritual Awakening' ??
From the beginning or is this a new 'idea' of his.
I don't know if that is the scenario - doubtful.
I have lost all respect for the disclosure project.
Those poor people who came forward - under the battle flag of a kook - or even perhaps a sell out to the very enemy that "Disclosure" is fighting against.
We will never know.
What sucks about this cloak and dagger crap is its all speculation.
I doubt it is the case because someone like Greer would have had a contingency plan - if something would have happened.
I don't know - I am rambling about this - I guess that is how disappointed I am.
Yeah, something isn't right. I don't know the chess game that is being played - but I kind of know how 'they' play it. It seems familiar as a disinformation campaign
- but its a lot more then that. Think about it. This guy just got 450+ witnesses from the government to come forward and look like idiots following some 'new age' messiah...
What may be happening is further suppression of the government ever coming forward about the truth. Over half of the population in the USA believes UFOs are real - (78% I think - dont quote me - but it is a majority).
Some chess move had to take place to discredit everyone... and BAM...
I have been talking about this 'case' at length with some people : IF these people were telling the truth (which is doubtful - to some) the government most likely set them up as dupes. IF Greer was on to something - he would have been 'talked to' (or perhaps not) and if he didn't shut up - he would have died in a way that would have made him look like even more of a kook (heavens gate?). Also, if all of the people involved actually knew something - they would have never had the chance to come clean and tell the public.... they would have died one way or another. ITs all cloak and dagger hearsay... I don't know what to believe - but I definitely don't have sympathy for Greer. He knew what he was dealing with when he began this project....
For all I know - I am being lied to (stories and all) LOL - so who knows what the truth is.
quote: I have great respect for Mr Greer, I'am just terribly dissapointed.
And there you have it. We're not firing harsh words at Greer because we think he's a crackpot and we hate him. We're leveling justified criticism because we had high hopes for Greer and his project, and this presentation seems to defeat the possibility of the DP having any impact.
quote: More importantly,has he ever said in his lectures
"I represent the religious and spiritual beliefs of ALL the members and contributers of the Disclosure Project, all 500 of them??
Of course not, but he represents the Disclosure Project. He is the voice of the Disclosure Project. So anything he says publicly in that role reflects on other members of the Disclosure Project. If he had made comments about his beliefs on spirituality and new-age metaphysics as part of a private dinner-party that would be different. These comments were made as a representative of the project and as such they reflect on all members of the project. The point is, the Disclosure Project should have nothing to do with religious and spiritual beliefs. Religious and spiritual beliefs are great - I think everyone should have them. But they are things people think and feel very strongly about, and introducing them into a political and scientific project has no positive affect on that project whatsoever.