New Disney flick lead voice-over is Patton Oswald (JFK time)

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Books DO have covers, too.

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:10 pm

orz wrote:Of course not, Hugh doesn't actually watch films, it would interfere with his analysis of them!


Sure I do. But I also know how to read the cover, not just the book.

I took notes as I watched a rental video of the 2004 'Manchurian Candidate.'
I got around 4 or 5 pages in shorthand, very rich in culture triggers unlike 'Nacho Libre.'

I wrote about 'Nacho Libre' before I watched beginning to end. When I did everything I predicted would be there...was. In spades.

It was a recruiting narrative marketed under a title meant to prevent Spanish-speaking American outrage over imprisonment of a Mexican social activist, Nacho del Valle.
The ability to organize by spraypainting the equivalent of "Free Bobby" was pre-empted. And the plot device in the movie to justify the use of the word 'Nacho' was incredibly clumsy, as though written by a grade schooler. But not to that target audience of 14-24 year-olds.

These spook-crafted and/or marketed psycho-political events kill several birds with each stone.
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Books DO have covers, too.

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:41 pm

orz wrote:Of course not, Hugh doesn't actually watch films, it would interfere with his analysis of them!


Sure I do. But I also know how to read the cover, not just the book.

I took notes as I watched a rental video of the 2004 'Manchurian Candidate.'
I got around 4 or 5 pages in shorthand, very rich in culture triggers unlike 'Nacho Libre.'

I wrote about 'Nacho Libre' before I watched beginning to end. When I did everything I predicted would be there...was. In spades.

It was a recruiting narrative marketed under a title meant to prevent Spanish-speaking American outrage over imprisonment of a Mexican social activist, Nacho del Valle.
The ability to organize by spraypainting the equivalent of "Free Bobby" was pre-empted. And the plot device in the movie to justify the use of the word 'Nacho' was incredibly clumsy, as though written by a grade schooler. But not to that target audience of 14-24 year-olds.

These spook-crafted and/or marketed psycho-political events kill several birds with each stone.
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Re: Fetch.

Postby philipacentaur » Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:48 pm

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:
philipacentaur wrote:Did you even see Pan's Labyrinth?


That was a pun.

And as if to illustrate my point off you went chasing the stick instead of focusing on where I was pointing with it: my admonishing pan for his many ways to run away from psy-ops.

Y'see, I made a list of 15 things he...oh nevermind. Did ya like the movie? Cool!


Yeah, I "got" it. Har har. Anyway -- have you seen it yet? I guess that didn't seem to stop you from commenting on it way back when. It's an anti-fascist movie, and most definitely not a fairy tale for children. I don't think it helped drive anyone to the recruitment office.
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Postby brownzeroed » Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:58 pm

HUGH:
PROOF.

Here are 1953 letters from a CIA asset in Hollywood back to his contact in the Psychological Strategy Board.

Read page 23 of this 48 page pdf file and find the CIA asset reporting on his management of the script writer of a Jimmy Stewart movie about Air Force pilots and atom bombs.
This is three years to the day after the 2/14/50 'Broken Arrow' accident.


Not exactly. This is in relation to a film called Strategic Air Command (1955)

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The government was upset at the portrayal of a secondary character ( "Gen. Ennis C. Hawkes" played by Frank Lovejoy) who too closely resembled the current Air Force commander Curtis LeMay. The original drafts of the script hit too close to home. It showed him as he was. Super-reactionary and arguably insane. The Studios caved and replaced the original screenwriter immediately, but Jimmy Stewart and Anthony Mann tried to get their names taken off the picture. They failed.
LeMay was later lampooned in Dr. Strangelove by George C. Scott.
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PROOF. CIA and SCRIPTS.

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:03 pm

brownzeroed wrote:The government was upset at the portrayal of a secondary character ( "Gen. Ennis C. Hawkes" played by Frank Lovejoy) who too closely resembled the current Air Force commander Curtis LeMay. The original drafts of the script hit too close to home. It showed him as he was. Super-reactionary and arguably insane. The Studios caved and replaced the original screenwriter immediately, but Jimmy Stewart and Anthony Mann tried to get their names taken off the picture. They failed.
LeMay was later lampooned in Dr. Strangelove by George C. Scott.


Ah, this CIA Hollywood mole at Paramount Pictures is guiding the author of the previous Jimmy Stewart/a-bomb movie released by MGM just 11 weeks previously on his next script.
Just so, bz.

That MGM movie, 'Above and Beyond,' turned the nuclear incineration of Hiroshima into a love story. Think there was a CIA mole over at MGM, too? Uh, yeah.
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Tagline:
The Love Story Behind The Billion Dollar Secret

Plot Outline:
Story of Col. Paul Tibbetts, the man who piloted the plane that dropped the atomic bomb on Hiroshima in World War 2.


OMG. Obviously more than one CIA mole in Hollywood. One at each studio, surely.
But they don't all know each other at this point. Compartmentalization.
And I suspect a mole was in on the 1950 'Broken Arrow.' Can't call that unfounded.

But my main point has been proven by this document from a 1953 CIA Hollywood asset that movies are micro-managed by the US government just as they were by OWI during WWII.

And the keyword hijacking tactic is used in many examples and now for JFK disinfo season 2008 like this one involving 'Payne' and 'Paine.'

Remember Ruth Paine?
From a spook family and handled Lee Harvey Oswald plus his wife Marina.
DA (not shaggy) Jim Garrison suspected her and found her taxes were classified.
An exonerating disinfo book on Ruth Paine was put out in 2002.

Look at this movie in production for 2008-
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0805639/
Who Is Doris Payne? (2008)

Release Date:
2008 (USA)

Genre:
Adventure / Crime / Drama more

Plot Outline:
Story based on the life of 75 year old international jewel thief, Doris Payne, whose career spanned over five decades.


Oooh, a spooky woman named "Payne." Hey, another teapot, Pan! lol.

Now is this Ruth Paine the kind of needle that warrants some JFK season haystack? YES.

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKpaineM.htm
Jim Garrison later suggested that Ruth Paine might have been involved in setting Oswald up as the "patsy". Garrison points out that Paine's father " had been employed by the Agency for International Development, regarded by many as a source of cover for the C.I.A. Her brother-in-law was employed by the same agency in the Washington, D.C. area." He also claims that he had tried to "examine the income tax returns of Ruth and Michael Paine, but I was told that they had been classified as secret.... What was so special about this particular family that made the federal government so protective of it?"

In 2002 Thomas Mallon wrote a book about Ruth Paine's involvement in the case, Mrs. Paine's Garage and the Murder of John F. Kennedy. Unlike Jim Garrison Mallon took the view that Paine was completely innocent of any involvement in the Kennedy assassination conspiracy.

Ruth Paine is currently working for a Nicaraguan relief group in St. Petersburg, Florida.


Nicaraguan 'relief group?' Funny. That's the kind of cover that Oliver North's fronts used to help with the Reagan Wars in Central America.

Ruth Paine is more than a tempest in a teapot, I think.

Is this keyword hijacking becoming painfully obvious yet?
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Postby philipacentaur » Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:10 pm

Interesting, brownzeroed! I was only familiar with the Strangelove aspect of that before.

Has anyone read the New Yorker interview with Barry Goldwater that's referenced in the "LeMay and UFOs" section of that Wikipedia article? I always see people refer to it, but I've never read the actual article. I've always wondered what the context of the UFO thing was.
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Postby Dreams End » Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:12 am

Thought I'd help Hugh with the Ruth Payne KW hijack. Here are some other Paines in Hollywood:



Names (Partial Matches) (Displaying 87 Results)
1. Carlo Delle Piane (Actor, Tickets (2005))
aka "Carlo Della Paine"
2. John Paine (II) (Visual Effects, Ice Age (2002))
birth name "Jonathan Paine"
3. Lauran Paine (Writer, Open Range (2003))
4. George Paine (Special Effects, The X Files (1998))
5. Frederick Bain (Editor, Trouble in Texas (1937))
aka "Freddie Paine"
6. Jeffrey R. Payne (Sound Department, Gattaca (1997))
aka "Jeffrey R. Paine"
7. Hugh Paine (Director, "How We Used to Live: Travelling by Train (#1.19)" (1969))
8. Leslie Paine (Director, "While You Were Out: Middleburg: Palm Tree Paradise" (2004))
9. Lewis Paine (I) (Writer, "The Man Who Never Was" (1966))
10. James Cardwell (I) (Actor, He Walked by Night (1948))
birth name "Albert Paine Cardwell"
11. Barry Paine (III) (Self, Atacama: The Flowering Desert (1999))
12. Bobby Paine (Soundtrack, Jackass Number Two (2006))
13. H.S. Paine (Writer, When Memory Calls (1912))
14. Ralph Delahye Paine (Writer, "Schlitz Playhouse of Stars: The Last Pilot Schooner (#4.22)" (1955))
15. Tom Paine (II) (Writer, The Weak and Wide Astray (1992))
16. Barry Paine (I) (Writer, Mustang: The Hidden Kingdom (1994) (TV))
17. Jenny Paine (Actress, Joe (1970))
18. Shelby Paine (Miscellaneous Crew, The Rainmaker (1997))
19. Tom Paine (I) (Director, Glimpse (1996))
20. Will Paine (Director, The Stone You Carry (2002))
21. Curtis Paine (II) (Writer, "HBO First Look: Batman Begins: An Origin Story" (2005))
22. Heidi Paine (Actress, Alien Seed (1989))
23. Martin Paine (Miscellaneous Crew, Little Voice (1998))
24. Nick Paine (I) (Writer, Philadelphia Experiment II (1993))
25. Bruce Michael Paine (Actor, R.S.V.P. (2002/I))
26. Cathey Paine (Actress, Helter Skelter (1976) (TV))
27. Chris Paine (I) (Actor, The Good Book (1997))
28. Chris Paine (II) (Director, Who Killed the Electric Car? (2006))
29. Dave Paine (Cinematographer, "Firsthand" (2003))
30. Debbie Paine (Actress, The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes (1969))
31. Emily Paine (Editorial Department, The Devil's Advocate (1997))
32. Geoff Paine (Actor, The Wog Boy (2000))
aka "Geoffrey Paine"
33. John Paine (I) (Sound Department, Passion (1999))
34. Matthew Paine (Miscellaneous Crew, No Direction Home: Bob Dylan (2005))
35. Nadia Paine (I) (Production Manager, Failure to Launch (2006))
36. Aímé Painé (Actress, Gerónima (1986))
birth name "Olga Elisa Painé"
37. Jonathan Paine (Miscellaneous Crew, Albino Alligator (1996))
38. Ralph Paine (Art Department, Talkback (1987) (TV))
39. Roberta Paine (Actress, Prohibition (1915))
40. Roy Paine (Actor, The Russell Affair (1928))
41. Ryan Paine (Actor, Mallboy (2001))
42. Susan Paine (Actress, Positive I.D. (1987))
43. Tami Paine (Actress, Lauderdale (1989))
44. Ricky Payne (Camera and Electrical Department, A Very Social Secretary (2005) (TV))
aka "Ricky Paine"
45. Jenifer deWolf Paine (Production Manager, Trifling with Fate (2000))
46. Alex Paine (Actor, Halifax f.p: The Feeding (1994) (TV))
47. Ben Paine (Miscellaneous Crew, "South Park" (1997))
aka "Benjamin Paine"
48. Bonnie Paine (Actress, L.A. Vice (1989))
49. Guy Paine (Casting Department, Dreammaster: The Erotic Invader (1996))
50. John Paine (III) (Camera and Electrical Department, The Comic Strip (1981) (TV))
51. Mark Paine (Art Director, Passion (1999))
52. Rachel Paine (Actress, Absence (2006))
53. Rob Paine (Producer, 2005 MTV Movie Awards (2005) (TV))
54. Robin Paine (Art Department, Hero (1982))
55. Steve Paine (Producer, Free Tibet (1998))
56. Vanessa Paine (Actress, Gauguin the Savage (1980) (TV))
57. George Payne (I) (Actor, Penitentiary III (1987))
aka "George Paine"
58. Anne Paine (Actress, The Bit Part (1987))
59. Barry Paine (II) (Self, Secrets of the Turtle Tomb (2001))
60. Barry Paine (IV) (Actor, "The American Experience: The Great Transatlantic Cable (#17.7)" (2005))
61. Chris Paine (IV) (Sound Department, Jeopardy! (1998) (VG))
62. Emma Paine (Self, "The X Factor" (2004))
63. Gregg Paine (Director, Babyshakes & the Return of Macdaddy (1999))
64. Harry Paine (Actor, Two Girls for a Madman (1968))
65. Jessica Paine (Miscellaneous Crew, Kjærlighetens kjøtere (1995))
66. William P. Paine (Art Department, Another Day in Paradise (1997))
aka "William Paine"
67. T. Paine Williams (Actor, Bluegrass (1988) (TV))
68. Charlie Paine (Actor, Alice in Storageland (2004))
69. Curtis Paine (I) (Miscellaneous Crew, The Patriot (1986))
70. Fiona Paine (Miscellaneous Crew, Antonia and Jane (1991))
71. Patrick Paine (Miscellaneous Crew, The Turning (1992))
72. Ruth Paine (Self, "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" (1988) (mini))
73. Stephen Paine (Actor, The Tragedy of Richard the Third (1983) (TV))
74. Paine Calabro (Actor, Str8 Chaser (2006))
75. Arnold Paine (Self, The Naked Bunyip (1970))
76. Clare Paine (Self, SexualidadeS (2003))
77. Ellery Paine (Actor, Lincoln's Gettysburg Address (1922))
78. Lindsay Paine (Actress, The Five Spot (1993))
79. Nadia Paine (II) (Miscellaneous Crew, Last Day (2006/II))
80. Richard Paine (Actor, Zapped! (1982))
81. Terri Paine (Actress, "Chico and the Man: Ed Brown's Car Wash (#4.17)" (1978))
82. Siobhan Paine (Thanks, Queen on Fire: Live at the Bowl (2004) (V))
83. Alexis Payne (Actress, The Candidates Are Tied (1996) (V))
aka "Alexis Paine"
84. Roxy Paine (Thanks, "Independent Lens: Motherland Afghanistan" (2007))
85. Paine Knickerbocher (Self, Teacher's Pet (1958))
86. Fred Paine (Alliance)
87. Nicholas Paine (EarsXXI Studios)

Titles (Partial Matches) (Displaying 2 Results)
1. Cerro Paine - vittoria italiana (1961)
2. Paine Management (2005) (TV)

Companies (Partial Matches) (Displaying 2 Results)
1. Will Paine Produktion [de] (Production)
2. Thomas Paine Productions [us] (Production)


alt spelling: "pain"

Keywords (Exact Matches) (Displaying 1 Result)
1. pain (626 titles - Kill Bill: Vol. 1 (2003), ...)

Titles (Exact Matches) (Displaying 4 Results)
1. Scoutman (2000)
aka "Pain" - Japan
2. Aci (1971)
aka "Pain"
3. Pain (1994)
4. Pain (2004)

Names (Exact Matches) (Displaying 1 Result)
1. Pain (Actor, Magyar vándor (2004))

Titles (Partial Matches) (Displaying 132 Results)

1.
Yadon ilaheyya (2002)
aka "Chronicle of Love and Pain"
2. Seung sing (2006)
aka "Confession of Pain" - (English title)

3.
Chris Rock: Bring the Pain (1996) (TV)
4. Kærlighedens smerte (1992)
aka "Pain of Love"
5. Man Feel Pain (2004)
6. Dauntaun hirozu (1988)
aka "Hope and Pain" - USA

7.
I, Zombie: The Chronicles of Pain (1998)
8. Más pena que gloria (2001)
aka "No Pain, No Gain" - (English title)
9. "Maîtres du pain, Les" (1993) (mini)
10. Pastry, Pain and Politics (1998)

11.
Royal Rumble (1998) (V)
aka "WWF Royal Rumble: Pain! Just a 4 Letter Word" - USA

12.
Emmerdeur, L' (1973)
aka "A Pain in the A..."
13. Pena, penita, pena (1953)
aka "Oh Pain, Little Pain, Pain" - (English title)
14. Street of Pain (2003)
15. Bonne résistance à la douleur (1999)
aka "High Pain Management" - (English title)
16. Kotia päin (1989)

17.
No Pain, No Gain (2005)
18. Pain au chocolat - Chocolate Pain (1999)
19. Pain Is... (1997)
20. Perro llamado Dolor, Un (2001)
aka "A Dog Called Pain" - USA
21. Phantom Pain (1996)
22. Love and Pain and the Whole Damn Thing (1973)
23. Pain Angel (1999)
24. Pain au chocolat (1998)

25.
A Pain in the Pullman (1936)
26. Pain, Le (2001)
27. Postal 2 (2002) (VG)
aka "Postal 2: Share the Pain" - USA
28. Smärtgränsen (1983)
aka "Beyond Sorrow, Beyond Pain"

29.
Ben Harper: Pleasure and Pain (2002)

30.
Deaden (2006)
aka "Pain Killer" - USA (working title)
31. Dr. Moreau's House of Pain (2004) (V)

32.
Héroïnes du mal, Les (1979)
aka "Heroines of Pain"
33. A Life Without Pain (2005)
34. Pölhölä (1981)
aka "'Päin pölläkkälää'" - Finland (working title)
35. WWE: Brock Lesnar: Here Comes the Pain (2003) (V)
36. WWE SmackDown! Here Comes the Pain (2003) (VG)
37. Aci (1988)
aka "The Pain" - (English title) (literal title)
38. Afriques: Comment ça va avec la douleur? (1996)
aka "Africa, How Are You with Pain?" - (English title)

39.
Color of Pain (2002)
40. En el paraíso no existe el dolor (1995)
aka "There's No Pain in Paradise" - (informal English title)
41. Pain as You Enter (1924)
42. Pain Flower (1996)
43. Pain Is Love (2005) (V)
44. Painless Pain (1926)
45. Pain Relief (2001)
46. Porteuse de pain, La (1963)
47. "Porteuse de pain, La" (1973) (mini)
48. The Richard Lewis 'I'm in Pain' Concert (1985) (TV)
49. Sound of Pain (2002)
50. Three Women of Pain (1997)
51. Aci (1984)
aka "The Pain" - (English title) (literal title)
52. Arthritis: A Dialogue with Pain (1981)
53. Betìa ovvero in amore per ogni gaudenza ci vuole sofferenza, La (1971)
aka "In Love, Every Pleasure Has Its Pain" - (English title)
54. Brood, Het (1920)
aka "Pain, Le" - Belgium (French title)
55. Canada Vignettes: Our Daily Bread (1979)
aka "Canada vignettes: Notre pain quotidien" - Canada (French title)
56. Circle of Pain (1996) (TV)
57. Città dolente (1948)
aka "City of Pain" - (English title)
58. "Comme du bon pain" (1976) (mini)
59. Confession of Pain (2009)
60. Courage and Pain (1996)
61. Dajeongdo byeongileonga (1957)
aka "Love Caused Pain" - (English title)
62. Dard Ka Samandar (2000)
aka "Sea of Pain"

63.
Double Pleasure, Double Pain (2008)
64. Drawn by Pain (2007)
65. Du pain et des fraises (2006)
66. Emotional Pain (2003)
67. The Fight Against Pain (1957)
68. Fragile Pain (2005) (V)
69. Fragile Pain 2 (2005) (V)
70. Grands procès témoins de leur temps: Le pain et le vin, Les (1978) (TV)
71. Hai xun jian bing (2005)
aka "The Pain of Others" - (English title)
72. Heritage of Love and Pain (1996)
73. Hör mit Schmerzen (2001)
aka "Listen with Pain" - USA
74. House of Pain (1993)
75. House of Pain (1995)
76. House of Pain (2007)
77. House of Pain and Pleasure (1969)
78. Insomnia + Seltzer = Pain (2001)
79. Jennifer Hodge: The Glory and the Pain (1992)
80. Je vais chercher le pain (1906)
81. Just a Pain in the Parlor (1932)
82. Ketu Qiuhen (1931)
aka "The Pain of Separation" - Hong Kong (English title)
83. Love and Pain (1913)
84. Love, Life & Pain (2000)
85. Made in Pain (1997)
86. Mercredi - Petits souliers, petit pain (1977)
87. Milde smerte, Den (2008)
aka "The Gentle Pain" - (English title)
88. MSNBC Investigates: Rodeo - House of Pain (2000) (TV)
89. "Nam yan chi fu" (2006)
aka "Men in Pain" - Hong Kong (English title)
90. Nuga iapeuneul (1979)
aka "Who Knows This Pain?" - (English title)
91. Pain and Pleasure (1967)
92. Pain and Suffering (2006)
93. Pain de fougère, Le (1981) (TV)
94. Pain de ménage, Le (1968) (TV)
95. Pain de ménage, Le (1981) (TV)
96. Pain des Jules, Le (1960)
97. Pain des petits oiseaux, Le (1911)
98. Pain dur, Le (1982) (TV)
99. "Pain noir, Le" (1974) (mini)
100. Pain, Passion and Profit (1992) (V)
101. Pain perdu (1993)
102. "Päin perhettä" (1992)
103. Pain quotidien, Le (1910)
104. Pain quotidien, Le (1970)
105. Pain vivant, Le (1955)

106.
Pain Within (2007)
107. Paris mange son pain (1958)
108. Passion & Pain (2003) (V)
109. Patouillard fait son pain (1911)
110. Pay-off in Pain (1948)
111. Personal Pain (1994)
112. Pétronille porteuse de pain (1914)
113. Pleasure and Pain (1986)
114. Portatrice di pane, La (1950)
aka "Porteuse de pain, La" - France
115. Porteuse de pain, La (1906)
116. Porteuse de pain, La (1912)
117. Porteuse de pain, La (1923)
118. Porteuse de pain, La (1934)
119. The Puzzle of Pain (1965)
120. Régime sans pain (1984)
121. Return to the House of Pain (1988) (V)
122. Sex, Pain and Murder, Episode Four: Range of Change (2000)
123. Sex, Pain and Murder, Episode One: The Girls Next Door (2000)
124. Sex, Pain and Murder, Episode Three: Sex Ain't All That (2000)
125. Sex, Pain and Murder, Episode Two: Castration Elation (2000)
126. The Skull of Pain (1997)
aka "Dead 2: The Skull of Pain" - USA
127. Someone Is Sleeping in My Pain: An East-West Macbeth (2002)
128. Tesha (1928)
aka "A Woman in Pain"
129. Tojiru hi (2000)
aka "Enclosed Pain" - (English title)
130. The Truth, the Pain, the Sacrifice: An Actor's Reality (2002)
131. "Tulta päin!" (1998)
132. Yeojaui iapeumeul (1980)
aka "A Woman's Pain" - (English title)

Names (Partial Matches) (Displaying 52 Results)
1. Keith Pain (Art Department, Gladiator (2000))
2. Harry Pain (Art Department, Gladiator (2000))
3. Richard Lewis (II) (Actor, Leaving Las Vegas (1995))
nickname "The Prince of Pain"
4. John Greg Pain (Writer, Little Spies (1986) (TV))
5. Barry Pain (Writer, A Blind Bargain (1922))
birth name "Barry Eric Odell Pain"
6. Elaine Pain (Director, Five Feminist Minutes (1990))
7. Benoît Pain (Camera and Electrical Department, The Da Vinci Code (2006))
aka "Benoit Pain"
8. Didier Pain (Actor, Jean de Florette (1986))
9. Joey 'Pain' Young (Casting Department, Ken Park (2002))
10. Katy Harvey (Art Department, Quills (2000))
aka "Katy Pain"
11. Frankie Pain (Actress, Fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain, Le (2001))
aka "Franckye Pain"
aka "Franky Pain"
aka "Frankye Pain"
aka "Franckie Pain"
aka "Françoise Pain"
12. Robin Pain (Cinematographer, Baron Münchhausen in a Whale of a Tale: A German Legend (1989))
13. Heidi Paine (Actress, Alien Seed (1989))
aka "Heidi Pain"
14. Erik Schrody (Soundtrack, Black Hawk Down (2001))
aka "House of Pain"
15. Angelo Pain (Art Department, Scorta, La (1993))
16. David Pain (Casting Director, "The Afternoon Play" (2003))
17. Heather Pain (Costume and Wardrobe Department, The Green Mile (1999))
aka "Heather Marie Pain"
18. Kathy Pain (Art Director, "Fat Friends" (2000))
19. Mary Pain (Actress, Zombie Xtreme (2004))
20. Vanessa Pain (Actress, Granturismo (2000))
21. E-40 (Soundtrack, Be Cool (2005))
aka "E-40 featuring T-Pain and Kandi Girl"
22. Henri Pain (Actor, Pleure pas la bouche pleine (1973))
23. Josh Haynes (Self, UFC 69: Shootout (2007) (TV))
nickname "Bring the Pain"
24. Brigitte Pain (Actress, Feux rouges (2004))
25. Chris Pain (Camera and Electrical Department, "Doctor Who Confidential: Friends Reunited (#2.3)" (2006))

26.
Cindy Pain (Actress, The Yellow Wallpaper (2007))
27. Katie Pain (Costume and Wardrobe Department, An Ideal Husband (1998))
28. Paul Pain (Make-Up Department, Hollywood Flies (2004) (TV))
29. Romain Pain (Actor, Outremer (1990))
30. Sandy Pain (Actor, A Village Affair (1994))
31. Sylvia Pain (Miscellaneous Crew, Rois et reine (2004))
32. Thierry Pain (Production Designer, Pôv' fille (2003))
33. Leor Dimant (Soundtrack, End of Days (1999))
aka "House of Pain"
34. Carolyn Pain (Actress, Wheels of Terror (1990) (TV))
35. Jessica Pain (Miscellaneous Crew, Da jeg traff Jesus... med sprettert (2000))
36. Patty Pain (Actress, Ni pour, ni contre (bien au contraire) (2003))
37. Pain in da Ass (Actor, State Property (2002))
38. Faheem Najm (Self, "Access Granted: T-Pain Featuring Akon: Bartender" (2007))
aka "T-Pain f. Mike Jones"
aka "T-Pain"
39. Gary Pain (Camera and Electrical Department, Ricky Gervais Live 2: Politics (2004) (V))
40. Géraldine Pain (Art Department, "Frank Riva" (2003))
41. Ecstacy Passion & Pain (Self, "Soul Train: The Ohio Players/Ecstacy, Passion & Pain/B.T. Express (#4.12)" (1974))
42. Kandy Girl (Self, "The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson: (#2.200)" (2006))
aka "E-40 featuring T-Pain and Kandi Girl"
43. House of Pain (Self, "VH-1 Where Are They Now?: One Hit Wonders (#1.1)" (1999))
44. Bedabrata Pain (Producer, Amu (2005))
45. Faye Pain (Miscellaneous Crew, "The Impressionable Jon Culshaw" (2004))
46. Isabelle Pain (Make-Up Department, Savates du bon Dieu, Les (2000))
47. Christopher Wilson (VI) (Actor, CZW: Scarred (2004) (V))
nickname "Justice Pain"
48. Danny Boy O'Connor (Self, Sepultura: We Are What We Are (1997) (V))
aka "House of Pain"

49.
John Stone (XI) (Composer, Whispers in the Gloom (1998) (V))
nickname "Johnny Pain"
50. Mike Jones (XXIX) (Actor, "The Andy Milonakis Show: (#2.5)" (2006))
aka "T-Pain f. Mike Jones"
51. Amel Pain (Thanks, Bomb It (2007))
52. Andre Pain (Thanks, Bomb It (2007))

Companies (Partial Matches) (Displaying 5 Results)
1. Pain Unlimited GmbH Filmproduktion [de] (Production)
2. House of Pain Productions [us] (Production)
3. House of Pain [us] (Special Effects)
4. Pain Killer LLC [us] (Production)
5. Pain de Sucre [fr] (Special Thanks)

Keywords (Partial Matches) (Displaying 4 Results)
1. self-inflicted-pain (10 titles - The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974), ...)
2. faked-pain (2 titles - "FC de kampioenen: Marc stopt (#7.4)" (1996), ...)
3. woman-in-pain (2 titles - Herbstmilch (1989), ...)
4. muted-pain (1 title - Yellowknife (2002))

Amazing the lengths they'll go to.
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Postby brownzeroed » Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:27 am

Is this keyword hijacking becoming painfully obvious yet?


Certainly. I never said there wasn't something to this HUGH. Sometimes, I disagree with a few details and the overall severity or success rate but on the whole I like what your doing. It should definitely be looked at. I do think sometimes you suffer from what folks in Law Enforcement call "hard eyes". Meaning, your surrounded with so much crime, it's hard to see anything else. Dig?

I also think your neglecting a much more important tool of mind control, as of the mid-twentieth century:
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A pragmatic person (there has to be one or two in an Intelligence Agency :)) would find this a much better medium to influence a much larger portion of the general public on a more consistent basis.

Seeing as though both were sowing their wild oats around the same period, it would seem an easy match. Much easier to infiltrate and much more cost effective. From birth the television has told me that War is noble, Spies are cool, trust my leader and fear my enemies. And most importantly, nothing is beyond explanation as long as it told in thirty minutes w/ three commercial breaks. I believe the evening news has done a heck of a lot more damage than the sleeve of a video cassette.
I'm not saying your work isn't valid. I just think your overlooking the grand daddy of all FAKE EYEBALLS. And it's immensely successful. When I think of spies the first thought that pops in my head would be: The Wild Wild West, Mission Impossible, Alias and 24. All hugely popular. All shed a more than positive light on Agencies. If you ask me, that's mind control.

Perfect example. Right now as I'm typing this, I'm half listening to a program on PBS talking about the nobility and bravery of the MI5 agents who infiltrated the IRA during the 80's. This is arguably true for some of them but I'm sure they'll neglect to tell me about those who participated in false flag terrorist bombings and killed innocent people for crass political gains. We don't have to look too far. It's right there, laughing at us...
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Postby brownzeroed » Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:29 am

Phillip:
Has anyone read the New Yorker interview with Barry Goldwater that's referenced in the "LeMay and UFOs" section of that Wikipedia article? I always see people refer to it, but I've never read the actual article. I've always wondered what the context of the UFO thing was.


I'll go halfsies on a back issue!
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Postby brownzeroed » Tue Jul 03, 2007 2:10 am

Dreams End:
Amazing the lengths they'll go to.


Hey you forgot Alexander Payne. Director of Election(1999) and little known philologist, cat juggler and rotating Grand Wizard of the Invisible School of Thaumaturgy. Jeesh. Do yer homework DE.

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Rare production still of Alexander Payne, on the set of About Schmidt, moments before his traditional pre-shoot invocation.
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Dreams End- lack of any context.

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Tue Jul 03, 2007 3:00 am

DE, that 'pain dump' stunt was really juvenile, the equivalent of shrieking in a crowd for attention or sweeping all the dishes off a table with a crash.

I know you are bright enough to make connections, too. Your tantrum is oddly out of character. Maybe you need a nap.

There was NO CONTEXT in your 'pain dump.'

DE, you do realize that I've acquired a real Pentagon psy-ops manual, right? I'm not making this stuff up.

Keyword hijacking and other counterpropaganda characteristics:

>Cover up value - The highest. A violent coup by US death squads within the government.
>Timing - 2008 is the 45th anniversary of JFK's death
>Visibility - Movie title is highly visible in advertising campaign.
>Target audience - Movie audience of 14-24 year olds.

Now apply those attributes to the rediculous dump you did. Nothing matches, does it?

Except for one-
72. Ruth Paine (Self, "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" (1988) (mini))


1988, that would be the 25th anniversary of the murder of JFK.

Have you read the excellent history of the posthumous murder of JFK around anniversary markers written by Jim DiEugenio in his book written and edited with Lisa Pease?

It starts at page 324 in their excellent book 'The Assassinations: Probe Magazine on JFK, MLK, RFK, and Malcolm X.'

Disinfo and cover-up is increased at markers like 10, 15, 20, 25, years after the crime. (Just like the Pentagon's psy-ops meant to balance out the arrival of dead US soldier #2500, #3000, etc.)

Have you read the essay in their collection of best evidences starting at page 238 written by Carol Hewitt called 'The Paines' Participation in the Minox Camera Chirade, Part 1?'


WHAT? Ruth Paine was In On It? Why, then maybe there is a misdirection with a movie about 'Doris Payne' the secret thief. Mighty close memes.

And I'm sure there are others, too. This is bigger than usual this year because learning about the JFK/RFK conspiracies can lead to the truth of 9/11, another inside job.
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Dreams End- lack of any context.

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Tue Jul 03, 2007 3:11 am

DE, that 'pain dump' stunt was really juvenile, the equivalent of shrieking in a crowd for attention or sweeping all the dishes off a table with a crash.

I know you are bright enough to make connections, too. Your tantrum is oddly out of character. Maybe you need a nap.

There was NO CONTEXT in your 'pain dump.'

DE, you do realize that I've acquired a real Pentagon Psychological Operations 101type training manual, right? I'm not making this stuff up. There are forms to fill in like getting a license at the DMV.

Subcourse PO 0805 Edition 7
Target Analysis Worksheet:

Target Audience:

Conditions:

Target Vulnerabilities:

Target Susceptibility:

Psychological Objective:

Target Effectiveness:

Impact Indicators:



I've been asked what would be attributes of a keyword hijacking and I'd model it on the formula above-

>Cover up value - The highest. A violent coup by US death squads within the government.
>Timing - 2008 is the 45th anniversary of JFK's death
>Visibility - Movie title is highly visible in advertising campaign.
>Target audience - Movie audience of 14-24 year olds.

Now apply those attributes above from the Pentagon or myself to the rediculous dump you did. Nothing matches, does it?

Except for one-
72. Ruth Paine (Self, "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" (1988) (mini))


1988, that would be the 25th anniversary of the murder of JFK.

Have you read the excellent history of the posthumous murder of JFK around anniversary markers written by Jim DiEugenio in his book written and edited with Lisa Pease?

It starts at page 324 in their excellent book 'The Assassinations: Probe Magazine on JFK, MLK, RFK, and Malcolm X.'

Disinfo and cover-up is increased at markers like 10, 15, 20, 25, years after the crime. (Just like the Pentagon's psy-ops meant to balance out the arrival of dead US soldier #2500, #3000, etc.)

Have you read the essay in their collection of best evidences starting at page 238 written by Carol Hewitt called 'The Paines' Participation in the Minox Camera Chirade, Part 1?'


WHAT? Ruth Paine was In On It? Why, then maybe there is a misdirection with a movie about 'Doris Payne' the secret thief. Mighty close memes.

And I'm sure there are others, too. This is bigger than usual this year because learning about the JFK/RFK conspiracies can lead to the truth of 9/11, another inside job.

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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Tue Jul 03, 2007 3:29 am

Spot on about the telly bz.

I still love that song "Television the drug of a nation".

Hugh, I don't get how keyword hijacking a few movies would be more effective at directing attention away from JFK, than say, American Idol.

And of course camo clothing is a psy op. It has nothing to do with it being available cheaply and in large numbers during the 80s and early 90s at any disposal store on the planet.

It had nothing to do with people wearing that stuff as an anti fashion statement, or simply cos it was cheap, and they tended to be "cool" and thats how Fshion works. I dunno maybe even Public enemy were part of the plot.

It was all a psy op. I brought all my ex army gear back then(and now) cos I was part of the op, not cos its its cheap and tough as all fuck.

Well maybe not. Even if camo clothing is somehow related to some psy op now, it didn't originate as a plan to make recruit kids and make them amenable to martial law. Thats a major flaw with the way you push your ideas, - you put the cart before the horse. Assuming that event X happened because of some nefarious plot takes away from the more reasonable, and probably more accurate, assertion that event x happened and some nefarious plotter took advantage of it to suit their own nefarious purposes.
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Postby orz » Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:01 am

DE, you do realize that I've acquired a real Pentagon Psychological Operations 101type training manual, right?

Therefore every half-baked paranoid-critical free-association I reverse-engineer from my predetermined assumptions MUST BE TRUE! :x
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Postby kristinerosemary » Wed Jul 04, 2007 5:56 am

i don't think hugh is so far off. you kind of have to take the leap
of faith and follow your senses and intuition to grasp the essence
of what he's talking about. but perhaps one needs to be born
with a kind of sixth sense in recognizing the twilight tracks of
the usual suspects. i'm from hollywood, and i worked in the
information entertainment industry for what seems now to be
the equivalent of an army lifer's career, so it's probably
easier for me to understand where he's coming from. i wish
others would let what hugh is saying start to sink in.

seems to be a big move on right now to instill official images of oswald and ruth paine. as if in penance for 'the men who killed kennedy,' the
history channel is running a series on the kennedys that
clearly shows oswald as a lone nut and ruth paine as a kindly
friend to marina, who also is shown in a very limited, specific
way. and son of jfk was of course just an unfortunate airplane crash.

but the most interesting inside joke in choosing someone
named patton oswald is actually the patton part.
quoting an
example from spartacus school net uk
in their online bio of george p:

Two days after the incident at the 15th Evacuation Hospital Patton sent a memo to all commanders in the 7th Army: "It has come to my attention that a very small number of soldiers are going to the hospital on the pretext that they are nervously incapable of combat. Such men are cowards and bring discredit on the army and disgrace to their comrades, whom they heartlessly leave to endure the dangers of battle while they, themselves, use the hospital as a means of escape. You will take measures to see that such cases are not sent to the hospital but are dealt with in their units. Those who are not willing to fight will be tried by court-martial for cowardice in the face of the enemy."

quite a bit more at the spartacus website. rather interesting timing
to bring patton to mind for those with real eyes to realize real lies.
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