1962 Gulf of Tonkin LIMPET op = 1964 'Incredible Mr. Limpet'

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

1967 from MGM Studios-


THE RISE AND FALL OF THE THIRD REICH Original music soundtrack, based on William L. Shirer's book of the same title. Music performed by MGM Symphony Orchestra, conducted by Lawrence Foster 1967 MGM - S1E-12-ST.




PRIVILEGE
Over ambitious yet effective account of 70s England where all-powerful welfare state manipulates masses through such media as pop singers. Score composed by Mike Leander. Songs by Leander and Mark London 1967 Uni Records - 3005

[Attack Ships on Fire]

Lucien Conein helped assassinate JFK.

Conan the Barbarian is the Governor of California and holds a Kennedy hostage.

And Oliver Stone wrote CONAN THE BARBARIAN. Circle takes square for the win! Six degrees of Hugh Manatee separation says Mr. Kevin Bacon!

Of this there can no longer be any doubt: Hugh is Rorschach from WATCHMEN.

Y'know Hugh, some of what you're saying may even be on the mark...but there's so much of it, and so thinly connected sometimes, that the signal to noise drowns out the best candidates that you've got. Just sayin'.

Also just sayin', Lucille Ball was kinda hot looking in YOURS, MINE AND OURS.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

[quote="Attack Ships on Fire"
And Oliver Stone wrote CONAN THE BARBARIAN. Circle takes square for the win! Six degrees of Hugh Manatee separation says Mr. Kevin Bacon!
[/quote]

I guess you missed my unsubtle humorous setup in a Ricky Ricardo accent where I wrote
"Lucien, you gotta lotta 'splaining' to do."

The Conein/ Conan similarity is only a possibility. I definitely wouldn't rule it out but I'm not claiming it is so. (I don't want to have to use a smiley but if it will help...)

But Buddwing/Bolschwing is a certain decoy film keyword hijacking.

1965 was a bad year to have CIA-Nazis outed because the USG was pumping up American youth for killing Vietnamese with a sense of virtuous purpose as seen on a TV special from Moral Rearmament, Inc. (no joke) with folkies in nice sweaters and approval from John Wayne, Walt Disney, and Pat Boone.

I have this record and the choir holding their hands out are pretending to "Ride Like Paul Revere"-

[Attack Ships on Fire]

Hugh, you may have intent to inject some humor into your original post there but the fact still stands that you've drawn many, many links to people associated with movies either by their relationships to others that have worked on different Hollywood projects or their association with political figures. While I was trying to inject some humor into this thread with my post above, there is a serious point behind it: I made a link back to JFK conspiracy with my Oliver Stone/CONAN connection. The links can be easy to make, just like the "Six degrees of Kevin Bacon" game. You're speculating on so many link connections that all of it is losing meaning. Even if there exists a sinister operation behind Hollywood and mainstream entertainment as the one you propose, surely you can't believe that all of your connections are valid?

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

The links can be easy to make, just like the "Six degrees of Kevin Bacon" game. You're speculating on so many link connections that all of it is losing meaning.

Be specific. I am.

No, the links are not so easy to make despite Pan's parody mud.

I'm considering VERY specific scandals and psycho-political campaigns to draw correlations with the keywords and themes in the movies along with documentation that contemporary movies are in fact used by OSS-CIA.

If you think "there's no meaning," then you ain't reading the material.
Before you make anymore judgements about what I'm writing, read all 48 pages of this pdf. The commentary is so-so. But the documents being commented on are authentic and begin to tell you the level of political massaging by CIA in Hollywood in 1953. This is like a sharp stick of psy-ops compared to today's laser-guided missile version-

http://www.iamhist.org/journal/eldridge.pdf
('Dear Owen: CIA, Hollywood, and Luigi Luschari')
Tell me what you find after you've read this.

Even if there exists a sinister operation behind Hollywood and mainstream entertainment as the one you propose, surely you can't believe that all of your connections are valid?

"IF?" Then you obviously haven't done the reading. See above 48-page pdf.

And most of my examples are good. Some I wonder about and I've even been wrong.
But I've found DEFINITE examples and lots of highly probable ones, too.

BE SPECIFIC. I am.

[orz]

Every film released since 2001 with the word "the" in the title is an OBVIOUS keyword hijack of The 9/11 Truth Movement.

prove me wrong!

[jingofever]

Can you be specific about how these "keyword hijacking" examples divert or cover-up scandals? Don't give me a handwaving explanation:

That's what 'Yours, Mine, Ours,' is, too, a romance about military, national, and family values.
You just couldn't get a warmer feeling over the word 'MINE.'

How does this cover-up Team Vulcan's use of limpet mines? Simply using the word 'mine' won't do it. And your "context" doesn't explain it either. How does "Mr. Limpet" "friendly-up" limpet mines? Doesn't the context of a mine count for anything? Does this diversion all happen on your say-so?

[robert d reed]

The original creator of Conan was L. Sprague DeCamp, an author from the 1920s.

Have you ever taken a Basic Linguistics test, HMW? I have. There isn't a professor of linguistics in the world who would accept "Buddwing" as phonemically identical to "Bolschwing." The first syllables aren't even similar.

Keep going with this thread, I want to see how bad the malfunctions can get.

One thing really gets me, though- the posters who are actually impressed by HMW on account of the information that he brings up. Evidently, they've never heard any of it before.

Much of it is valid- and little-known. Especially in the 1960s ( although HMW persists in hinting that the material was so dangerously beckoning of public notice that it required a covert media smokescreen that approached the scope of the hoaxing depicted in the 1990s film "The Truman Show"...uh-oh, "Truman"...I just said another one...)

It's too bad you have to hear so much warped nonsense along with the content provision.

You don't have to trust me, but in my opinion you newbies will get much the same content without having to contend with the unique interpretive abilities of Professor HMW by doing your own research.

This isn't a bad place to begin http://wfmu.org/playlists/DX

Dave Emory has some interpretations of his own, of course, and it's up to you to accept or challenge them. But you won't find him feeding you page after page of stem-winding nonsense in a vainglorious authorial Voice Of Final Judgement, like HMW.

Emory's research is also a good place to grab keywords to plug into a search engine, and do your own research.

[brownzeroed]

Quit confusing Hugh with facts.

Dave Emory has interpretations of his own, of course. But you won't find him feeding you page after page of stem-winding nonsense in a vainglorious authorial Voice Of Authority, like HMW.

Yes, but you will hear the word "milieu" used ad naseum. Barring his chronic need for a thesaurus, Dave Emory is the provebial bomb.

How do these threads get so long?

Anyone else hungry?

[robert d reed]

How do these threads get so long?

Because it's more fun than Sudoku.


"Yours, Mine, Ours"...for a split second, I thought I noticed a smile and a wink flickering across that deadpan expression...

[brownzeroed]

“The essence of life is the smile of round female bottoms, under the shadow of cosmic boredom.”

In Predator, when Jesse "the body" Ventura says "He's dug in deeper'n a Alabama Tick" was he referring to Ray's Raul or Eugene Hasenfus?

Or were they simply trying to use this movie as a way of putting a positive light on our actions in Central America? Hmmm....

If Hollywood were a Dungeons and Dragons character, it would be a Chaotic Neutral Magic User with a bag of holding.

Why aren't there any cool Gary Gygax conspiracies? There has to be a way to connect him to Jack Parsons.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

.... There has to be a way to connect him to Jack Parsons.

The Wrong Stuff story of early NASA alumnus Jack Parsons who died in a mysterious explosion after cavorting with L. Ron Hubbard and Aleister Crowley was keyword hijacked by the very same Harry Martin who helped launch the fascist radio career of Michael 'Savage' Weiner.

Alex Constantine did an article recently which included Harry Martin's career with Pentagon contractors before setting up a small paper in Napa, CA called the Napa Sentinel.

Martin helped usher in disinfo from a nuke lab veteran named Peter Vogel about a terrible 1944 explosion at a munitions facility in the SF Bay area called Port Chicago. Hundreds of black soldiers were killed (Jim Crow assignment) and a huge scandal ensued when many were punished for not going back to the scene of the accident to continue handling munitions.

Vogel claimed that the 1944 mysterious explosion was really a nuke test under the guidance of a 'Captain Parsons' and that this might be the reason for the high cancer incidence in the SF Bay area which
>has abandoned Navy hazmat areas in Richmond
>has radiation in Hunters Point from navy ships coming back from Pacific atomic testing and getting 'decontaminated' by being sandblasted and the materials ended up being used to pave some of Hunters Point.

The keyword hijacking: Parsons, mysterious explosion, nuclear, cancer.
All mashed into woo-woo by the Pentagon man who gave us Michael 'Savage' Weiner.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

The original creator of Conan was L. Sprague DeCamp, an author from the 1920s.

I know. That has nothing to do with the 1977 comic revival and especially the 1982 movie during the remilitarizing Reagan years of pop-uber men ala 'The Six Million Dollar Man' which led to Governor Reagan being followed by Governor Barbarian, does it?

Have you ever taken a Basic Linguistics test, HMW? I have. There isn't a professor of linguistics in the world who would accept "Buddwing" as phonemically identical to "Bolschwing." The first syllables aren't even similar.

I wrote that this wasn't identical but it appears that those assigned the task did the best they could with the keywords available. This field of linguistic and cognitive behavior in pop culture is long been spook territory yet you inflate every imperfection in psy-ops to a reason that it must not even be done. That's irrational.

I've researched and profiled the type of people who would be doing the same thing to the masses to get verbal and pictographic handles on them. Be serious if you want to voice an opinion on this. Don't dabble. I don't.

They even get cocky and include inside jokes in their propaganda. Makes sense.

One thing really gets me, though- the posters who are actually impressed by HMW on account of the information that he brings up. Evidently, they've never heard any of it before.

True. But they know their movies and TV, don't they? Think the spooks know this, too?

Much of it is valid- and little-known. Especially in the 1960s ( although HMW persists in hinting that the material was so dangerously beckoning of public notice that it required a covert media smokescreen that approached the scope of the hoaxing depicted in the 1990s film "The Truman Show"...uh-oh, "Truman"...I just said another one...)

The beaurocratic mandate to produce counterpropaganda against hostile information has its own organizational inertia. Whistleblowers from inside CIA have said this time and time again. "You are paid to Do Things. Get cracking if you want a career."
Lt. Col. L. Fletcher Prouty was the Pentagon's liason with CIA from 1955-1964 and he wrote in 'The Secret Team' that comparmentalization and poor planning created disaster all the time.

So don't works backwards from the idea that either psy-ops works well or it isn't done.

It's too bad you have to hear so much warped nonsense along with the content provision.

Content- good.
What "'warped nonsense?" Be specific.

You don't have to trust me, but in my opinion you newbies will get much the same content without having to contend with the unique interpretive abilities of Professor HMW by doing your own research.

I'm opening doors to history of covert ops and psy-ops research and giving sources and big picture motivations of power that are master keys to research. Sorry if that bothers you, rdr.

Dave Emory has some interpretations of his own, of course, and it's up to you to accept or challenge them. But you won't find him feeding you page after page of stem-winding nonsense in a vainglorious authorial Voice Of Final Judgement, like HMW.

Emory and Hopsicker are badly compromised according to Alex Constantine whose research I trust.
Read-
http://alexconstantine.blogspot.com/2007/07/dave-emory-and-daniel-hopsicker-are.html

Search away, good people. Search and find.
The dots make a picture as I both document and describe.

[orz]

The dots make a picture as I both document and describe.

No, the symmetrical ink blots make a picture you describe.

[robert d reed]