Amazing video of planted 911 ground zero "witness"

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Postby 8bitagent » Sat Sep 22, 2007 2:18 am

Attack Ships on Fire wrote:You are wasting energy in pursuing these two shadows that could be better served on exposing more light on the bigger 9/11 irregularities.


Yep

Like ...

Pakistani ISI
Saudi intel
Dubai
FBI obstruction
Saudi Visa issuing
Mossad white vans
Able Danger
Norman Oklahoma/FBI sting op/Nick Berg
John Oneil
Ali Mohammed
PTECH
WTC sprinkler sabotage
American Turkish Council
Golden Chain funders linked to Washington DC

and countless other things the "new truth" ignores
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Postby 11:11 » Sat Sep 22, 2007 3:12 am

antiaristo wrote:..


It's a familiar script.

Have you all forgotten about Jean Charles de Menezes, the Brazillian electrician assassinated by Her Majesty's finest?

So called witnesses were planted to feed us a load of lies.

Faces of the suspects


· Police chase ends with man shot dead on tube
· Met chief says force faces greatest ever operational challenge

Ian Cobain, Rosie Cowan and Richard Norton-Taylor
Saturday July 23, 2005
The Guardian

....snip....

Sir Ian Blair, commissioner of the Metropolitan police, said that officers hunting the gang "are facing previously unknown threats and great danger". He appealed for calm around the capital, and said: "We need the understanding of all communities and the co-operation of all communities."

At Stockwell, bewildered eyewitnesses spilled out of the underground station and told how they had witnessed the moment, shortly after 10am, when the suspect was repeatedly shot.

All described the man as wearing a bulky, winter coat, despite the warm weather, and at least one said he thought he spotted a belt with wires running from it.

After leaping the ticket barriers, racing down an escalator and dashing on to a train, the man appears to have either fallen or been bundled to the ground by pursuing police, one of whom leaned over and shot him several times in the head.

Anthony Larkin, who was on the train, said: "I saw these police officers shouting 'get down, get down', and I saw this guy who appeared to have a bomb belt and wires coming out. People were panicking and I heard two shots being fired."

Mark Whitby, 47, who was sitting a few yards from the shooting, said: "I saw an Asian guy. He ran on to the train. He was hotly pursued by three plain clothes officers, one of them was wielding a black handgun.

"As he got on to the train I looked at his face, he looked sort of left and right, but he basically looked like a cornered rabbit, a cornered fox.

"He looked absolutely petrified. They couldn't have been any more than two or three feet behind him at this time and he half tripped and was half pushed to the floor, and the policeman nearest to me had a black automatic pistol in his left hand. He held it down to the guy and unloaded five shots into him.


"They pushed him to the floor and basically unloaded five shots into him.

"I was totally distraught. It was no less than five yards away from where I was sitting."

At one point, the train's driver was chased by police and had a gun pointed at his head after he leapt from his cab and ran down a tunnel on hearing the commotion.

The shot suspect was pronounced dead at the scene.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story ... 71,00.html

It was not until an employee of the Police Complaints Commission leaked a photograph of the prostrate dead man that we learned we had been lied to.

About a month later.

It's a script.

They plant seeds at exactly that time the mind is most impressionable - immediately after a disorientating shock.

Tavistock style.


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Hugh, what you've described is known as "Pussygate" :lol:


Terence Blacker: 'Pussygate' proves we have lost our innocence

Published: 21 September 2007

It is now known that a major new crisis is about to engulf the BBC. A producer has been suspended. There are threats of sackings. Unions are involved. According to the chorus of critics of the Corporation, who are ever on hand to make things worse, the latest revelations reveal a profound moral and managerial crisis within the corporation.

The story that has caused the rumpus is undeniably shocking, but it must be told. There was this cat. It was to be part of the presentation team on the children's series Blue Peter. Some foolhardy idiot at the BBC came up with the reckless idea of inviting the programme's young viewers to select a name for it.

This is where it gets ugly. The name the children came up with is so utterly inappropriate that the production team were unable even to consider it. The BBC says that the name preferred by the young audience was "Cookie". The newspapers, however, have said that it was something more challenging, or as one broadsheet newspaper carefully referred to it, "a variant of 'Puss'". Or, to put it more frankly,the name the children chose for the cat was: "Pussy".

It was an impossible situation, clearly. As the crisis deepened, there must have been some kind of top-level cat-naming meeting because soon the Blue Peter team turned to a public figure who had nothing the slightest bit sleazy about him – Bill Clinton. The former president had a cat called Socks (as in "I did not have Socks with that woman") and that was the name that the BBC claimed, a touch implausibly, the majority of their viewers had selected.

(more)
http://comment.independent.co.uk/column ... 984737.ece


And, what other "witness" accounts might have been scripted for 7/7? The more I learn, the worse it gets.

Here's a weird one: A cab driver who claimed to have witnessed the plane hitting the Penatgon, and who said his car was hit by a knocked over light pole (from the plane) had a strange book on the seat of his car, shown in photos - Children of the Matrix, by David Icke! What are the chances? It had a "calling card" feel to it, like the ace of spades that assassins left on dead bodies in Nam.

Maybe Hugh can find some key word hijacking in the Cookie/Pussy story.
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Uh...

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sat Sep 22, 2007 3:56 am

11:11 wrote:Maybe Hugh can find some key word hijacking in the Cookie/Pussy story.


Sorry, no. But I would like to reiterate what I found on Alex Constantine's webpage--


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Postby 11:11 » Sat Sep 22, 2007 3:56 am

Any of the critics here researching for 911 bloggers, Killtown, or any of the other groups? I thought not.

This is the biggest criminal investigation ever undertaken - all being done unpaid, by citizen researchers. They have their special niches, and all research must be original - no cut and paste. Then all work is subject to the scrutiny of the rest.

There must be 500 (or more) differnet aspects to investigate. Yes, the money, yes the Saudis, yes THE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE, yes SILVERSTIEN and INSURANCE FRAUD. As far as I know, it's all being looked at. I've been talking to one investigator who has tracked down several people who shot video of the events that day. Much there doesn't add up. Young 30 somethings, with professional video background/careers, now retired and living it up in places like Monte Carlo. It's amazing how some of you pick apart and shoot down the massive amount of work done by poeple who have devoted so much to uncovering the truth. The same people who have now compiled a wanted list. If any of these perps get what's coming to them, it will be because of the people like the 911 bloggers, not the critics who haven't done shit but sit on the sidelines doing fuck all.
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Re: Uh...

Postby 11:11 » Sat Sep 22, 2007 3:58 am

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:
11:11 wrote:Maybe Hugh can find some key word hijacking in the Cookie/Pussy story.


Sorry, no. But I would like to reiterate what I found on Alex Constantine's webpage--


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Hugh, I wasn't poking fun, just so you know. I find your theories very believable.
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Postby Jeff » Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:19 am

11:11 wrote:Here's a weird one: A cab driver who claimed to have witnessed the plane hitting the Penatgon, and who said his car was hit by a knocked over light pole (from the plane) had a strange book on the seat of his car, shown in photos - Children of the Matrix, by David Icke! What are the chances? It had a "calling card" feel to it, like the ace of spades that assassins left on dead bodies in Nam.


Do you have a source for that? That would be an interesting synchronicity, but I can't find it cited anywhere else.

FWIW, here is a photo of the cab after struck by the light pole. And this is a good article on the light poles.
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is this it?

Postby slow_dazzle » Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:16 am

On behalf of the future, I ask you of the past to leave us alone. You are not welcome among us. You have no sovereignty where we gather.

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Re: is this it?

Postby slimmouse » Sat Sep 22, 2007 8:27 am

slow_dazzle wrote:source

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As if THAT isnt fucking wierd enough, theres this from Lloyds "eyewitness account";

Simultaneously, the plane struck a light pole and the pole came crashing down onto the front of Lloyd’s taxi cab, destroying the windshield in front of his eyes. Glass was everywhere as he tried to stop the car. Another car stopped and the driver helped move the heavy pole off Lloyd’s car. As they were moving the pole, they heard a big boom and turned to see an explosion. The light pole fell on Lloyd and he struggled to get up from underneath, wondering what had happened.

To which someone adds what should be the obvious ;

Gee, I guess lloyd is a fast mover. After all he was able to recover from the shock of having his windshield shatter in his face, slam on his breaks (He was driving on the highway I assume), get out of his car and begin to move the pole off of his car all before he heard the jet hit the building

Bizzarre indeed :shock:
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Postby FourthBase » Sat Sep 22, 2007 8:48 am

That is some weird-ass shit! :shock:

LMFAO at Lloyd and his friend's superhuman speed!
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Postby Jeff » Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:13 am

Thanks for the link and the photo.

If anything, I take this as an ironic token from the control system that governs human consciousness. Synchronicities are often like that, and beyond our means to arrange. A nice foreshadowing of some wrong turns for "9/11 Truth."

And I don't understand what this is supposed to mean to the trooferati, as s_d called them in another thread. On the one hand, the cabbie must be in deep, because he is part of the set-dressing to a "staged" event. On the other, he's a cited witness for missile theorists because he's quoted as finding it strange he couldn't see plane debris.
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Postby sandymac » Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:19 pm

Englishman Calum Douglas analyzes the flight 77 data recorder info. Plane path entirely missed the poles?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2833924626286859522&q=calum+douglas&total=22&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
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Re: is this it?

Postby OnoI812 » Sat Sep 22, 2007 2:45 pm

slow_dazzle wrote:Gee, I guess lloyd is a fast mover. After all he was able to recover from the shock of having his windshield shatter in his face, slam on his breaks (He was driving on the highway I assume), get out of his car and begin to move the pole off of his car all before he heard the jet hit the building


Here's a fresh video of our "Supercabbie" http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 0986329305

I also found this about another witness:

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e207/ ... /aziz2.jpg

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 4757&hl=nl
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Postby Jeff » Sat Sep 22, 2007 3:01 pm

I watched that video, and it's a good example of what drives me mad about 9/11 snake oil.

"Physical evidence" is what New Truth's supposedly all about, but here's physical evidence - clipped light poles - being glibly dismissed because it doesn't fit their faith-based hypothesizing. And here's this poor everyday Joe cabbie, telling his story, and these smart-assed filmmakers call him "9/11's first known accomplice." Not to his face, of course; just on their rolling credits.

Fuck, I just hate it.
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Postby mentalgongfu2 » Sat Sep 22, 2007 3:54 pm

If videos like the one I just watched about Lloyd are the best the truthers can come up with, then I'm with Jeff.

Seems to be the evidence that LLoyd is an "accomplice" is based on nothing but assumptions and speculation.

When the producers conclude that witness accounts are irreconcilable = evidence 911 was an inside job, they are really showing their lack of critical thinking skills.

Witness accounts are irreconcilable, therefore proving Coke is better than Pepsi . . .
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Postby slimmouse » Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:50 pm

Jeff wrote:
"Physical evidence" is what New Truth's supposedly all about, but here's physical evidence


"New 9/11 truth ?" Whats all that about. AFAIC, the only reason I ever got interested in the lie that is "the official 9/11 conspiracy theory " ( note the difference in emphasis) in the first place was cos of the physical evidence, whatever we think of it. That is a fallacious statement AFAIC.

Jeff wrote:- clipped light poles - being glibly dismissed because it doesn't fit their faith-based hypothesizing.


And how about "Eye witness testimony" based upon the like of this cabbie as a rebuttal to that "faith-based hypothesising vis a vi "New 9/11 truth" ?

Jeff wrote:And here's this poor everyday Joe cabbie, telling his story, and these smart-assed filmmakers call him "9/11's first known accomplice." Not to his face, of course; just on their rolling credits.


OK, perhaps we might agree there, although I havent seen the video, but for Petes sake, to suggest that there is "enough reliable eye witness testimony", to suggest that a plane hit the Pentagon, based upon what is really weird, and to be frank, plainly fallacious kinda accounts such as this, and to also speak of the physical evidence as "New 9/11 truth" , when it got people like myself interested, prior to really digging into the stuff that you go on about, is AFAIC quite simply disingenous.

I would readily agree, that largely speaking, the physical evidence is essentially a right brain thing. Its about genuinely making your own mind up based upon intuitive thinking, whereas, the boring factual rigorous stuff which most people simply cant be bothered with, (like that or not) is left brain.

But since this forum is called rigorous intuition, I like both approaches.

And I cant for the life of me think why anyone interested in exposing "the official 9/11 conspiracy theory" ( note the emphasis) for the crock of crap that both left brained and right brained "troofers" are 100% percent certain that it is, should get overinterested in a divide and conquer/ holier than thou approach between the two cranial hemispheres.
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