Fuck Ron Paul

[ninakat]

...the US has enough oil and gas to be completely independent while we work out other means.

Who else besides Lindsey Williams, the ordained Baptist preacher, is making this claim -- anyone with credibility? And, can they really show concrete evidence? Do you have links to such evidence? I'm trying to keep an open mind, but honestly, after so many years of reading and researching on the peak oil theory, I have yet to see any arguments that prove it's all just a big conspiracy and scam -- just a lot of talk, and talk is cheap (Williams may be sincere -- I have no idea -- but, I need evidence).

There's a real consensus forming amongst serious researchers about peak oil -- and, for the life of me, I cannot fathom such a huge conspiracy amongst independent geologists and scientists and other researchers, governments, etc. to create a scam called peak oil, especially since the theory of peak oil isn't even being disseminated broadly to the public -- the vast majority of people simply have never heard of it. One would think that if it's a scam, the media would be talking about peak oil in a big way.

To be sure, the oil companies are taking advantage and are influencing governments, but that reality doesn't negate the reality of peak oil.

[11:11]

...the US has enough oil and gas to be completely independent while we work out other means.

Who else besides Lindsey Williams, the ordained Baptist preacher, is making this claim -- anyone with credibility? And, can they really show concrete evidence? Do you have links to such evidence? I'm trying to keep an open mind, but honestly, after so many years of reading and researching on the peak oil theory, I have yet to see any arguments that prove it's all just a big conspiracy and scam -- just a lot of talk, and talk is cheap (Williams may be sincere -- I have no idea -- but, I need evidence).

There's a real consensus forming amongst serious researchers about peak oil -- and, for the life of me, I cannot fathom such a huge conspiracy amongst independent geologists and scientists and other researchers, governments, etc. to create a scam called peak oil, especially since the theory of peak oil isn't even being disseminated broadly to the public -- the vast majority of people simply have never heard of it. One would think that if it's a scam, the media would be talking about peak oil in a big way.

To be sure, the oil companies are taking advantage and are influencing governments, but that reality doesn't negate the reality of peak oil.

Well, you have the guy from Atlantic Richfield who added to his book. That said, whether we have reached peak oil, or it's as Lindsay Williams says it is, I don't feel like being blackmailed into a position where the US must keep the structure of the war for oil economy to be a viable nation. The one thing in life that's certain is change, and we can embrace it and do something better, or we can keep on the road to hell.

[FourthBase]

I love Kucinich (and he and RP are friends) but Dennis is anti 2nd amendment. In the face of total enslavement, what the insane people in Washington are moving toward, the last line of defense is an armed citizenry. Google JPFO+Genocide. Of course, they could release some bio-weapon on us, in which case we're screwed.

If you think being armed with handguns and rifles at this stage of the game is going to protect us against total enslavement, you are deluded. So is that it? The 2nd amendment? That's the only reason you're not championing Dennis Kucinich instead?

[11:11]

I love Kucinich (and he and RP are friends) but Dennis is anti 2nd amendment. In the face of total enslavement, what the insane people in Washington are moving toward, the last line of defense is an armed citizenry. Google JPFO+Genocide. Of course, they could release some bio-weapon on us, in which case we're screwed.

If you think being armed with handguns and rifles at this stage of the game is going to protect us against total enslavement, you are deluded. So is that it? The 2nd amendment? That's the only reason you're not championing Dennis Kucinich instead?

Nope. Ron Paul is 100% in line with the Constitution, and that's why I support him. I want my Constitution back.

You don't know how anyone might protect themselves. By all means, if you don't believe in the right to self defense, then that is your choice. As JFK said, those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable. Hopefully we NEVER are faced with the latter. If we are, though, the right to bear arms may be more meaningful to you. Or not. Maybe you'll peacefully go to the nearest FEMA camp.

[monster]

Q for Paulists:

Why Ron Paul and NOT Kucinich?

According to Wikipedia, Kucinich wants to reinstate the Fairness Doctrine. Other than that, though, he looks pretty good.

For me, Ron Paul was the first candidate I heard about that said things that I would say myself.

I can't vote in the Democratic or Republican primaries anyway, so I guess it doesn't matter.

[5E6A]

While we need to find alternative energy, because of pollution, environmental damage, and the oil oligarchy, the US has enough oil and gas to be completely independent while we work out other means.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbakN7SLdbk

Yup peak oil is a scam. The north slope has a Saudi Arabia under it. Abiotic oil will save us.

Fine. Make statements and put them up on you-tube. But please, whatever you do, take no time to verify any of it. That will cement your faith. Should you ever try to verify these statements, do get back to us...

Just to start off, let us take the gentleman's very first proclamation:

"Here are the facts. There is as much crude oil on the north slope of Alaska as there is in Saudi Arabia. The governor of Alaska stated on the Bill Maher TV show real time on March the 18th in 2005, there is potentially enough crude oil on the north slope of alaska to supply the entire United States of America for 200 years."

Saudi Arabia has 260 billion barrels of proven crude reserves, and I will not go in to the evidence that says that could be overstated. The US consumes 7.1 billion barrels a year. One Saudi Arabia will only supply our consumption at a static rate of consumption for 36.6 years. Is 36.6, 200?

[5E6A]

I want my Constitution back.

It was never yours to begin with. Do you really think that those who created that document were talking about the commoner? They were most certainly not...

[slow_dazzle]

Michael Parenti did a superb analysis of how the Constitution was set up and, more importantly, why. The folksy mythology of a group of freedom loving patriots is about as far from the truth as it is possible to get. They were men of property and they framed the Constitution to protect property interests.

Anyone who believes in fairness needs to drop the idea of the Founding Fathers as freedom loving patriots. The rosy picture of the Founding Fathers as trusty patriots, stoutly protecting freedom for everyone, is not supported by documentary evidence. They were oligarchs.

[theeKultleeder]

It doesn't really matter. The constitution is the law of the land - what matters is how it's interpreted, and the "people" have secured some fundamental rights under it in previous decades.

The struggle continues.

[slow_dazzle]

I don't doubt that there are safeguards (or were...) in the US Constitution that should be held dear. If those safeguards mean freedom and equality for all that's something to defend to the last.

I was just pointing out that the FF were not democrats and they did not have equality on their minds when drafting the Constitution. AFAIK those amendments worth fighting for, if one is an ordinary citizen, had to be fought for bitterly. So maybe those bits that had to be fought for are the most important.

Said from the distant perspective of a non Americano...

[chiggerbit]

Sorry if this has been posted before:

http://tinyurl.com/2lqpng

[11:11]

Ornicus is one of the most genuinely racist, race baiting sites on the web. The mention of the Southern Poverty Law Center only cements that fact.

[chlamor]

Ornicus is one of the most genuinely racist, race baiting sites on the web. The mention of the Southern Poverty Law Center only cements that fact.

How so?

[Jeff]

Ornicus is one of the most genuinely racist, race baiting sites on the web. The mention of the Southern Poverty Law Center only cements that fact.

Surfed much?

And seriously:

[anonymoose]

Ornicus is one of the most genuinely racist, race baiting sites on the web. The mention of the Southern Poverty Law Center only cements that fact.

Pure nonsense. I don't agree with everything Neiwert says, but your description of his site is absurd.