9/11 Foreshadowed by X-Files' "Lone Gunmen"?

[8bitagent]

The WASP elites have successfully used this card from the advent of the fictitious Protocols of Zion globally to divert our attention away from the actual perps.

Lefties fall for it all the time, unfortunately - even here.

It is often a subliminally injected theory or allusion like a magicians trick.

OH - it was the damn ZIONISTS who engineered this bullshyte (not).

Unfotunately too there are enough socalled Zionists who are simply fascists in collusion with the WASP elites for their own power trip[s and self gratification - whether power or self aggrandizement or money. But inmho, someone who is truly committed to the ideal of Zionism in a spiritual sense would not have anything to do with the power elites who claim to represent Zionism while playing footsie and collaborating with the Nazis who hate and kill Israelis and Jews and who are behind the ethnic cleansing in Israel/Palestine.

Sure there are fundamentalist zealots at play who may not even know they are tools of the WASP elites. But they are on both sides in these conflicts and are not in any leadership positions with very few exceptions.

The Protocosl may be one of the first globally "effective" inoculation. Lies about Zionism may be one of the most globally effective to distract away from what the true fascist are doing and who is in control of the NWO (ie the WASP BFEE).

Exactly. Exactly.

I have no problem saying that I believe both WW1 and WW2 was manipulated, and controlled by the same elite cabal...most likely to get a working UN, nuclear age, Israel, and "order out of chaos" as well as majorly shift the power structure of the world.

Be it the order of the black hand, Thule, IBM, Ford, Bayer, Rothschilds, London Financial, Union Banking Corp, Rockefeller Standard Oil, Brown Brothers Harriman, etc the "nwo" elite were profitting from both sides and creating the very Nazis that would leave Europe in ruins and despair.

The Protocols of Zion was BRILLIANT. Take a lot of what the elite plan was, but switcheroo esoteric worshipping WASP royal elites to "THE JOOS!" and voila...innoculation preemption as they say

Just like the whole "Jews did 9/11" meme that happened days after 9/11.

I mean, remember when the right wing was the racist ones against Israel? Now its the peaceniks lamblasting warmongering Israel and being called "anti Semetic". Its bizarre.

It doesnt matter if its African dictators, Afghani warlords, Chinese officials, Saudi elites, Latin American death squads, European corporations....its all part of this global structure oppressing humanity on a worldwide scale..."racism" and hate is merely the pretext to divide, like "Islamic terrorism". Its a tool of the globalists.

Remember, if you are against Israelis blowing up Palestinians and exacting dehumanization, well...by golly you're just a Nazi racist!

[8bitagent]

So take your pick of explanations. The obvious choice, supported by evidence, is that the iconic towers have been considered terrorist targets by many people pre-9/11, and, in fact, were bombed only 8 years before 9/11. It's to be expected that images and narratives about an attack on them would be found in art, especially anti-Capitalist or conspiracy-themed art.

I look at the "esoteric" symbolism of the towers as well as the pentagon.

Also, the 1993 WTC attack had so many CIA and FBI assets crawling all over that plot, it's amazing the public is still in the dark. WTC 1993 was about one thing only: creating the near decade long meme in preperation for the "big one".

But yes, I agree with you idea of people tapping into the conspiracy theory culture radar and it all points to the WTC.

[8bitagent]

Heh, well just what if...what if...for the sake of argument...

this wasnt a coincidence or accident?



To allow that thought into our heads, would to truly question the matrix of reality woven around us and give us quite a big "whoah" pause.

[theeKultleeder]

this wasnt a coincidence or accident?

It wasn't. Someone folded that bill that way on purpose.

[orz]

Well said.

8bitagent, if I drew a picture of 9/11 today, would it make sense for anyone to describe it as a "coincidence" or an "accident"? Would you think it proved I had foreknowledge of the attacks? Or would you simply say that I'd drawn a picture of an event which happened in the past?

[8bitagent]

Well said.

8bitagent, if I drew a picture of 9/11 today, would it make sense for anyone to describe it as a "coincidence" or an "accident"? Would you think it proved I had foreknowledge of the attacks? Or would you simply say that I'd drawn a picture of an event which happened in the past?

Hey Im not saying the 20 dollar bill foretold anything. Im just saying,
truth is stranger than fiction sometimes.

[Seventhsonjr]

That long link has rendered the entire page unreadable.... shame, because it's an interesting discussion.

http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Hollywood_911.htm

[Fat Lady Singing]

Hi all: Just to throw in my two cents, I really, really liked the show (guess I'm just a fanboy stuck in a 42-year-old woman's body). Yes, they were good guys, not portrayed as wacky weirdos but as geek chic in a sense. While they could be silly and nerdy and unassuming, as portrayed they were always heroes. Always. Unsung, sure, but heroes. When the characters were killed in the last X-Files episode I was so pissed.

Anyway, I liked the series enough that I got the DVD set, and in the commentary for the episode under discussion here, they (director, writer, producer, I think) talk practically endlessly about technical issues, but only spend a few nervous moments talking about 9/11. They sound evasive to me, honestly. Their voices become strained. They're clearly uncomfortable. They seem completely aware that folks like us think they got some sort of inside info, so they're trying to answer the question that's obviously on people's minds, but they're dodging the question at the same time. If that makes sense. Like they know they have to say *something* but don't really want to say anything at all.

My feeling is that they *did* get inside info, but that they assumed it was just hypothetical. They probably had a consultant on the payroll (or not), someone who was a "former" operative of some sort. They'd regularly go to the guy to run ideas past him or to get inspiration. Perhaps this operative asked them, "Have you ever heard of false flag operations? Here's a couple of scenarios..." and mentioned some of the possibilities. Except in this case, they weren't possibilities so much as eventualities.

Putting myself in their shoes, if my theory is correct... I'd feel awful about it, too. I'd wonder if I couldn't have done something to stop 9/11. I'd keep going over the conversations in my head--should I have realized that this was something that was going to occur in real life? Did we fail to heed a genuine warning? Or because the operative gave us this info in advance, even though he presented it as a hypothetical, could that mean that we are in some small way dangerous to whoever orchestrated it? Could our careers, or worse, our lives, be in danger as a result?

I'd be pretty uncomfortable talking about it myself, if that were the case.

[theeKultleeder]

^^^^^But that day upsets every American. I still get tears when I have to watch some crazy "waffle footprint" video.

It is group trauma.

[FourthBase]

Hi all: Just to throw in my two cents, I really, really liked the show (guess I'm just a fanboy stuck in a 42-year-old woman's body). Yes, they were good guys, not portrayed as wacky weirdos but as geek chic in a sense. While they could be silly and nerdy and unassuming, as portrayed they were always heroes. Always. Unsung, sure, but heroes. When the characters were killed in the last X-Files episode I was so pissed.

Anyway, I liked the series enough that I got the DVD set, and in the commentary for the episode under discussion here, they (director, writer, producer, I think) talk practically endlessly about technical issues, but only spend a few nervous moments talking about 9/11. They sound evasive to me, honestly. Their voices become strained. They're clearly uncomfortable. They seem completely aware that folks like us think they got some sort of inside info, so they're trying to answer the question that's obviously on people's minds, but they're dodging the question at the same time. If that makes sense. Like they know they have to say *something* but don't really want to say anything at all.

My feeling is that they *did* get inside info, but that they assumed it was just hypothetical. They probably had a consultant on the payroll (or not), someone who was a "former" operative of some sort. They'd regularly go to the guy to run ideas past him or to get inspiration. Perhaps this operative asked them, "Have you ever heard of false flag operations? Here's a couple of scenarios..." and mentioned some of the possibilities. Except in this case, they weren't possibilities so much as eventualities.

Putting myself in their shoes, if my theory is correct... I'd feel awful about it, too. I'd wonder if I couldn't have done something to stop 9/11. I'd keep going over the conversations in my head--should I have realized that this was something that was going to occur in real life? Did we fail to heed a genuine warning? Or because the operative gave us this info in advance, even though he presented it as a hypothetical, could that mean that we are in some small way dangerous to whoever orchestrated it? Could our careers, or worse, our lives, be in danger as a result?

I'd be pretty uncomfortable talking about it myself, if that were the case.

That is very reasonable speculation, Fat Lady.

[8bitagent]

Hi all: Just to throw in my two cents, I really, really liked the show (guess I'm just a fanboy stuck in a 42-year-old woman's body). Yes, they were good guys, not portrayed as wacky weirdos but as geek chic in a sense. While they could be silly and nerdy and unassuming, as portrayed they were always heroes. Always. Unsung, sure, but heroes. When the characters were killed in the last X-Files episode I was so pissed.

Anyway, I liked the series enough that I got the DVD set, and in the commentary for the episode under discussion here, they (director, writer, producer, I think) talk practically endlessly about technical issues, but only spend a few nervous moments talking about 9/11. They sound evasive to me, honestly. Their voices become strained. They're clearly uncomfortable. They seem completely aware that folks like us think they got some sort of inside info, so they're trying to answer the question that's obviously on people's minds, but they're dodging the question at the same time. If that makes sense. Like they know they have to say *something* but don't really want to say anything at all.

My feeling is that they *did* get inside info, but that they assumed it was just hypothetical. They probably had a consultant on the payroll (or not), someone who was a "former" operative of some sort. They'd regularly go to the guy to run ideas past him or to get inspiration. Perhaps this operative asked them, "Have you ever heard of false flag operations? Here's a couple of scenarios..." and mentioned some of the possibilities. Except in this case, they weren't possibilities so much as eventualities.

Putting myself in their shoes, if my theory is correct... I'd feel awful about it, too. I'd wonder if I couldn't have done something to stop 9/11. I'd keep going over the conversations in my head--should I have realized that this was something that was going to occur in real life? Did we fail to heed a genuine warning? Or because the operative gave us this info in advance, even though he presented it as a hypothetical, could that mean that we are in some small way dangerous to whoever orchestrated it? Could our careers, or worse, our lives, be in danger as a result?

I'd be pretty uncomfortable talking about it myself, if that were the case.

I've seen the episode a few times...the gist of it is:

A government agent realizes that the government is about to conduct major war game exercises of hijacked planes used as weapons

Under that "cover of war games" he realizes that rogue elements of the government will electronicly hijack a 747 and crash it into the world trade center

This will be done his contact says, to bring a thunderous new American hegemony-corporate-oil styled goosestep march across the middle east...
because any "tinpot dictator" will be itching to take responsibility.

Now...


Is it possible, that people after 9/11 remembered this episode, and
then tried to find any way they could fit what happened on 9/11 to that plot?

USAToday reported the US government had war games of hijacked planes flying into the WTC and Pentagon, and of course the morning of 9/11 the FAA and NORAD were confused because of preplanned wargames and false injects.

Or...

Is it possible the 19 hijackers were mind controlled?

Who really knows what the real story is, other than one fact:
9/11 HAD to go forth, it had to have redundant failsafes to ensure
WTC and Pentagon was hit, and the WTC collapsed. That had to be ensured beyond a shadow of a doubt.

I dont know if I buy that Xfiles creators had "advanced info", the tapping into the psychic grid of ideas seems more plausible.

[theeKultleeder]

Is it possible that crashing a hi-jacked plane anywhere in New York is something that any hack writer could have conceived?

[FourthBase]

I dont know if I buy that Xfiles creators had "advanced info", the tapping into the psychic grid of ideas seems more plausible.

That's where I draw the line with people on this forum. I'm sorry, say that again: Tapping into a psychic grid of ideas seems more plausible than actual advanced knowledge somehow leaking to writers of the world's #1 conspiracy-themed TV show who have a history of collaborating on story ideas with agents from the FBI and NASA?

[8bitagent]

I dont know if I buy that Xfiles creators had "advanced info", the tapping into the psychic grid of ideas seems more plausible.

That's where I draw the line with people on this forum. I'm sorry, say that again: Tapping into a psychic grid of ideas seems more plausible than actual advanced knowledge somehow leaking to writers of the world's #1 conspiracy-themed TV show who have a history of collaborating on story ideas with agents from the FBI and NASA?

Oh yes. I mean again, why did so many people have warning dreams about 9/11 weeks and days before?

Is it really so odd people unconsciously tap into a fabric of universal thought...ideas already in progress?

Were too assume that the Pentagon was planning 9/11, then in 1999 fed this writer the Lonegunmen Pilot plot, who then filmed it in early 2000...shelved it, only to show it on Fox 6 months before 9/11
merely to "hijack" any future conspiracy theories as mere coincidence?

Its possible, very possible.

But Im open to many possibilities with that one, as much as one of the stars has said on the Alex Jones show that Xfiles writers were approached by government agents.

I saw an interview with the guy behind that pilot and he said the conspiracy theories are hogwash. All so weird.

[FourthBase]

Oh yes. I mean again, why did so many people have warning dreams about 9/11 weeks and days before?

Is it really so odd people unconsciously tap into a fabric of universal thought...ideas already in progress?

It's not so odd, and I believe that phenomenon exists, but to claim that tapping into the fabric of universal thought is more plausible than a leaked insider tip? No, I'm sorry, that's not acceptable. We should be cognizant of the normal scale of plausibility, and inside info making its way to the writers' ears is far, far, far, far, FAR more plausible than anything to do with a morphogenic field, synchronicity, or ESP.

Were too assume that the Pentagon was planning 9/11, then in 1999 fed this writer the Lonegunmen Pilot plot, who then filmed it in early 2000...shelved it, only to show it on Fox 6 months before 9/11
merely to "hijack" any future conspiracy theories as mere coincidence?

Not assume, no.

Its possible, very possible.

Possible, yes. And far more plausible than a paranormal alternative.

But Im open to many possibilities with that one, as much as one of the stars has said on the Alex Jones show that Xfiles writers were approached by government agents.

Even without that testimony...Does anyone really think the shows' producers, creators, and writers didn't have working relationships with the agencies portrayed in their show? Those agencies would have insinuated themselves eventually, regardless of whether they had a hand in the show's roots.

I saw an interview with the guy behind that pilot and he said the conspiracy theories are hogwash. All so weird.

I have a hard time believing that anyone connected to the pilot episode would genuinely consider 9/11 conspiracy theories hogwash. That is weird, indeed.