9/11 Foreshadowed by X-Files' "Lone Gunmen"?

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Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:01 pm

theeKultleeder wrote:.....
Besides, ['X-Files'] started off with more of a Weekly World News/National Enquirer feel than a John Judge feel. The first few seasons dealt more with monsters and bigfeets than it did with UFOs. And it never really strayed far beyond that.


The reasons for 'The X-Files' when it started up were:
>Oliver Stone's 'JKF' opened that public wound again.

>>Clinton in the White House meant the whole IranContra Mena-Nella airport cocaine thing could blow up.

>>>Terry Reed did make a movie and book as a Nella airport whistleblower.

on edit: Almost forgot the 1992 book by Pete Brewmont, 'The Mafia, CIA, and George Bush' which laid out the looting of the Savings and Loans by those perps plus connections to IranContra players.

Helluva time for whistleblowing, the early 1990s. Just ask Danny Casalaro.
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Postby professorpan » Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:03 am

The reasons for 'The X-Files' when it started up were:
>Oliver Stone's 'JKF' opened that public wound again.

>>Clinton in the White House meant the whole IranContra Mena-Nella airport cocaine thing could blow up.

>>>Terry Reed did make a movie and book as a Nella airport whistleblower.


Utter nonsense, with zero evidence.
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Clinton and IranContra cocaine

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:32 am

professorpan wrote:
The reasons for 'The X-Files' when it started up were:
>Oliver Stone's 'JKF' opened that public wound again.

>>Clinton in the White House meant the whole IranContra Mena-Nella airport cocaine thing could blow up.

>>>Terry Reed did make a movie and book as a Nella airport whistleblower.


Utter nonsense, with zero evidence.


Your opinion of my opinion.

In 1989 Webster Tarpley/Anton Chaitkin had dug up the Bush family skeletons which are also America's Nazi skeletons on 'The Unauthorized Biography of George Bush.'

Once the compromised Clinton was chosen to follow Bush into the White House to produce the perception of recovery from Reagan-Bush policies, it was important to not let CIA cocaine and death squads pop back out. Or Bush's October Surprise.

Americans were kept in a constant state of trivia-Gate to keep big stuff off the table.
Oliver Stone's movie, 'JFK,' and the release of JFK records were just the beginning of a parade of whistleblowers and books that made the growing internet dangerous and so it was filled with disinfo websites and, just as in the Senate hearing 1970s, the culture of woo-woo and eyerolling over 'conspiracy theories' was hyped.

The 1997 movie, 'Conspiracy Theory,' is a good example of the effort to firm up the stereotype of the suspicious paranoid kook who'll believe anything.

Just my opinion, of course. :P
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Re: Inoculation Theory

Postby 8bitagent » Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:04 am

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Seventhsonjr wrote:.....I believe that the lone gunman episode was DESIGNED in advance to discredit those who would later say that the top spooks in our government were behind 9-11.

Inoculation theory, to me, is the most plausible explanation of the scary accurateness of the episode which occurred in reality on 9-11.

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I guess I am trying to drum into this board the extent of the use of inoculation in black or psyops. I think this is a good example of it even though absolute proof may not be there, plenty of evidence IS there that this is the case. I think the argument for a planned psyop of inoculation was at work in this case is very strong.


100% right, seventhsonjr. Mnemonic inoculation is exactly what I've found to be all over mainstream media, especially TV and movies. Movies are almost nothing but because the USG has a growing pile of garbage to cover-up and so we are inoculated against seeing it.

Inoculation Theory is exactly what is behind the use of keyword hijacking and semantic dismemberment and decoy movies, to pre-bias cognition to benign fictional narratives at the expense of hostile non-fiction narratives. Few can tell the difference.

A black FBI agent named Don Wilson found a note in a car allegedly used by James Earl Ray which implicated the FBI in the murder of Martin Luther King. So Wilson pocketed it and stayed mum because he realized the FBI at the time was like the KKK. Soon he quit the FBI and only came forward with his evidence and testimony for a 1997 civic trial that resulted in a jury reaching the verdict that the US government killed Martin Luther King.

This black FBI agent with the note from the past is both invoked and discredited in the 1997 movie, 'Conspiracy Theory,' the 1997 television show, 'Spawn,' and the 2006 movie, 'Deja Vu.'

In 'Deja Vu' Denzel Washington evokes yet another black law official, Oklahoma police officer Terrance Yeakey. Yeakey was first on the scene of the Murrah building bombing who realized the OKC bombing was an inside job, investigated, and was tortured and murdered yet his death was declared a 'suicide.'

So both 'Conspiracy Theory' and 'Deja Vu' inoculate the audience against incriminating components of narratives including JFK-RFK-MLK-OKC-Katrina.

Inoculation Theory.
Mnemonic Inoculation.

They dont' want us to forget. They want us to not be able to see.


Dont forget how Manchurian Candidate with Denzel Washington(film about 40 something black Gulf War sniper vet who has mind control programming to become a killer) came out 2 years after John Allen Muhammad goes on a serial sniper spree(a 40 something Gulf war sniper vet, who showed all sort of signs of being mind controlled)

Im so glad you brought up Yeakey. Very few people know who he is.
The idiot mainstream who calls us "conspiracy theorists" will never realize how kind souls like Yeakey paid the ultimate price for trying to expose evil by our own government.

Didnt a black secret service guy come across the JFK plot in Chicago a couple weeks before Dallas?

Anyways, Im a pretty huge film buff going back awhile...

I was wondering if there was in your view possible movie hijackings of the following events:

Oklahoma City Bombing(I know Xfiles in 1998 started off with a terror blast homage to OKC)

Gladio/Strategy of Tension

Waco

WTC 1993

Franklin Coverup

October Surprise

Hinckley shooting Reagan

JFK or RFK

School of Americas/CIA latin american coups/genocide/death squads

Anthrax 2001

CIA drugs
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Postby theeKultleeder » Thu Dec 20, 2007 2:39 am

The Manchurian Candidate is a good movie.

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Postby theeKultleeder » Thu Dec 20, 2007 2:49 am

Tell me, Raymond. Do you remember
murdering Mavole and Lembeck?




I beg your pardon, sir?



Mavole and Lembeck.



The men who were lost on the patrol.



Can you recall what happened to them?



Yes, sir.



It was a very clear action
for a night action.




Captain Marco sent up some low flares,



so it was easy to see
what was happening.




Bobby Lembeck got separated to the left.



Mavole went after him.



By the time he reached him,
the enemy had a fix on the position.



They were killed instantly
by a high mortar shell.




I don't think they ever knew what hit 'em.



Do you realise, comrade,
the implications of the weapon
that has been placed at your disposal?




You may remove your head bandage,
Raymond.



A normally conditioned American
who has been trained to kill,




and then to have
no memory of having killed.



Without memory of his deed,
he cannot possibly feel guilt.




[Of course, Raymond's recall is a screen memory!]

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Postby 8bitagent » Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:49 am

Oh man, these have to be the two most dangerous 9/11 Truth images:
(just randomly found these)

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If people understood what these meant, the official 9/11 story would collapse like WTC7
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Postby professorpan » Thu Dec 20, 2007 3:53 pm

I was wondering if there was in your view possible movie hijackings of the following events:

Oklahoma City Bombing(I know Xfiles in 1998 started off with a terror blast homage to OKC)

Gladio/Strategy of Tension

Waco

Etc.


PLEASE do not invite threadjacking. If you want to ask Hugh his opinions of movies, do so in a separate thread. Thanks.
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Thread op.

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Thu Dec 20, 2007 4:25 pm

professorpan wrote:.....
PLEASE do not invite threadjacking. If you want to ask Hugh his opinions of movies, do so in a separate thread. Thanks.


Um, the thread title is about the use of video entertainment to influence perception of major political events.

9/11 Foreshadowed by X-Files' "Lone Gunmen"?

Also relevant is discussion of INOCULATION THEORY.

If you can't tell what threadjacking is, you shouldn't be a 'moderator.'

Your efforts to make me the topic whenever possible and throw a wet blanket over my every single mention of associational psychology in media, the very basis of covert human manipulation, are remarkable. And you claim to write fiction and should recognize the dynamics of narrative.


Speaking of the OP (try it, Pan)-
In 1992 Pete Brewton published 'The Mafia, CIA, and George Bush.'
Another excellent reason, along with the ones I already mentioned, to reinforce the stereotype of the entertainingly paranoid conspiracy theorist on 'The X-Files.'

Hey, that's what you do to me all the time, Pan!
So there is original post reference in your posts here after all. My mistake. :P
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Postby professorpan » Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:20 pm

Um, the thread title is about the use of video entertainment to influence perception of major political events.


No, it's not. It's about whether or not the X-Files foreshadowed 9/11, and why or how it did (or didn't).

8bit's request for you to expound on your "hijacking" theory about other films is simply an invitation to derailment.

If you can't tell what threadjacking is, you shouldn't be a 'moderator.'


Go take it up with Jeff. Or get your own discussion board.

I asked politely -- please stay on topic or start another thread.
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Foreshadowing and Inoculation

Postby Seventhsonjr » Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:50 pm

professorpan wrote:
Um, the thread title is about the use of video entertainment to influence perception of major political events.


No, it's not. It's about whether or not the X-Files foreshadowed 9/11, and why or how it did (or didn't).

8bit's request for you to expound on your "hijacking" theory about other films is simply an invitation to derailment.

If you can't tell what threadjacking is, you shouldn't be a 'moderator.'


Go take it up with Jeff. Or get your own discussion board.

I asked politely -- please stay on topic or start another thread.



I am going to request that the subject be allowed here on this thread. It is an interesting thread and not much more can be said necessarily about the lone gunmen episode being foreshadowing.

Personally I think the subject is legit and for HMWins to respond is ON TOPIC: that is the subject of foreshadowing and the one I raised about inoculation. They really go hand in hand.

Personnally I would love to see more info on this subjectm HMW or anyone.I think it adds to the discussion and is not really a thread hijack at all.

Maybe the person who posted the OP should complain if they want to - but really I see no need for clamping down on HMW or on the poster who wanted his opinion. I think it is a cool discussion and one which needs not to be squelched.

Just my two cents. But I feel like if I started my own thread on Inoculation theory it would just kinda turn to dust here so I say let the discussions continue.

This thread has had a good life and I say let it continue. Plus it educates those who might be surfing (serfing?) through these nether regions.
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Postby IanEye » Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:52 pm

I find this thread interesting, but for those who think Chris Carter was getting "help" writing his shows, one could find far richer material in "Millenium".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_%28TV_series%29

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In terms of what is the most "RI" of Carter's stuff, I would have to say the X-Files episode, "Home".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_%28The_X-Files%29

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Postby theeKultleeder » Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:54 pm

Good episode!

Very creepy.
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Postby professorpan » Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:04 pm

I am going to request that the subject be allowed here on this thread. It is an interesting thread and not much more can be said necessarily about the lone gunmen episode being foreshadowing.


I'm not trying to censor Hugh, or anyone else -- but if this is to turn into a "here is my list of psyop movie hijackings" then it makes sense to start another thread.

For instance, a thread titled "Inoculation/HMW's Theory of Movie Hijackings" would surely answer both 8bit's questions and your own, and would allow this thread to live or die on-topic.

I'm just trying to steer, not shut down. And to avoid every thread about a movie or tv show getting dragged into psyop/"keyword hijacking" land.
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Postby Jeff » Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:10 pm

Pan's right. The suggestion is fine for another thread, but I hope this thread can return to its own subject.
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