9/11 Foreshadowed by X-Files' "Lone Gunmen"?

[FourthBase]

[crickets]

[theeKultleeder]

[FourthBase]

*chirp*

[theeKultleeder]

[Nordic]

And Family Guy's got a freakin' cock and balls on his chin.

Anyone notice that? Whassup with that?



If that isn't a scrotum on his chin, I don't know what is.

[orz]

[crickets]

Just so you know I did reply but the old CPU error happened and it didn't post. Can't be bothered to re-write it.

[MinM]

Friday, September 28, 2012
As a Last Resort

Just how far does Hollywood go in its predictive programming? The latest is ABC's "Last Resort." A scenario of false flags, rogue military where killing one's own is a means to an end, nuclear war and of course...the good guys.

Are we being played for the future of a military coup with competing factions? Is the show similar to the 'Lone Gunman' 9/11 episode but with a new spin and having Pakistan as the fall guy instead of Iran? The message will never be dead on target, only close.

Perhaps it is as simple as catering to the ever increasing number of 'conspiracy theorists.' Perhaps as we sit on our couches and watch the TV version of beginnings of a real new war we'll be saying "But where are the good guys, that show said there are some." Yeah, where indeed are the 'good guys.'

There's probably no need in watching future episodes of "Last Resort." This one may be telling us all we will ever need to know...or what the powers that be through their programmers want us to know.

http://kennysideshow.blogspot.com/2012/ ... esort.html

This classic Rovian technique has been used (and especially was effective in the discrediting of ongoing CT's especially in The "X Files" with respect to the secret government of fascists manipualting things and is currrent today with "Heroes") repeatedly to discredit any idea that our government and the BFEE especially is tied into the Nazi/Fascist Fourth Reich/New World Order.

In the episode the Twin Towers are the target. The purpose is to enable the secret fascists in government/military/intel to blame the act on "terrorists" and bring about a suspension of liberties etc. in a scenario which completely ridicules the "Lone Gunmen" as credible. It appeals to folks like me who believe in conspiracies of the BFEE/Nazis but is in such a ridiculous scenario that the very idea discredits the idea for the masses (not that it worked, really, given folks' opinions of 9-1 today on the facts).

Rove's most famous effort in this regard prior to 9-11 was, not uncoincidentally, a plot to inoculate the public against the idea that Bush was a cokehead who had been busted in Texas and had to do community service. That story was fed to the late James Hatfield (but with false facts) who already had a shakey reputation as an excon convicted of, I believe, conspiracy to commit murder. The false fatc made the whole story and Hatgfield totally discreditted (even though it was true. Hatfield was brought to the boonies by Rove and two others in the Bush white house and fed the facts and then fed false facts about the judge involved in the sentencing . St. Martin Press cancelled the book and 60 minutes ran a hit piece on Hatfield when they had planned to blow thew whole story open prior to the 2000 election (which might have buried Bush).

Hatfield was almost destoryed by this. The story was discreditted because the messenger was unreliable (not because the actual core facts were untrue).

Like Rumsfeld pulling various "missile" references to the Pentagon and Shanksville, and the media hyping up the "4000 Jews stayed home" theories, then Bush saying "let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories"

By pushing absurd and anti semetic theories, the elite were able to make even the up and arms left activists in America be convinced 9/11 was just some angry Muslims.

So yeah, I totally understand what you're saying about preemptive gestures.

[MinM]

@CovertHistory: Hijacking Airplanes With An Android Phone

https://twitter.com/CovertHistory/statu ... 7729884161

Inoculation


inoculate, inoculating, inoculated
1. To communicate a disease by inoculation.
2. To bud; to insert, or graft, as the bud of a tree or plant in another tree or plant.
3. To insert a foreign bud into; as, to inoculate a tree.
4. To communicate a disease to (a person) by inserting infectious matter in the skin or flesh; such as, to inoculate a person with the virus of smallpox, rabies, etc.
5. To introduce into the mind; used especially of harmful ideas or principles.
6. To imbue; such as, to inoculate someone with treason or infidelity.
7. Etymology: from Latin inoculatus, past participle of inoculare "to ingraft"; in-, "in, on" + oculare "to furnish with eyes", from oculus, "an eye"; also, "a bud".
inoculation
1. Taking a vaccine as a precaution against contracting a disease.
2. Introduction of material (usually a vaccine) into the tissues.
3. A mode of entry of bacteria into the body.
4. The act or an instance of inoculating, especially the introduction of an antigenic substance or vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.
5. Informal, a preemptive advertising tactic in which one party attempts to foresee and neutralize potentially damaging criticism from another party by being the first to confront troublesome issues.

http://www.wordinfo.info/words/index/in ... 2&letter=O



This classic Rovian technique has been used (and especially was effective in the discrediting of ongoing CT's especially in The "X Files" with respect to the secret government of fascists manipualting things and is currrent today with "Heroes") repeatedly to discredit any idea that our government and the BFEE especially is tied into the Nazi/Fascist Fourth Reich/New World Order.

In the episode the Twin Towers are the target. The purpose is to enable the secret fascists in government/military/intel to blame the act on "terrorists" and bring about a suspension of liberties etc. in a scenario which completely ridicules the "Lone Gunmen" as credible. It appeals to folks like me who believe in conspiracies of the BFEE/Nazis but is in such a ridiculous scenario that the very idea discredits the idea for the masses (not that it worked, really, given folks' opinions of 9-1 today on the facts).

Rove's most famous effort in this regard prior to 9-11 was, not uncoincidentally, a plot to inoculate the public against the idea that Bush was a cokehead who had been busted in Texas and had to do community service. That story was fed to the late James Hatfield (but with false facts) who already had a shakey reputation as an excon convicted of, I believe, conspiracy to commit murder. The false fatc made the whole story and Hatgfield totally discreditted (even though it was true. Hatfield was brought to the boonies by Rove and two others in the Bush white house and fed the facts and then fed false facts about the judge involved in the sentencing . St. Martin Press cancelled the book and 60 minutes ran a hit piece on Hatfield when they had planned to blow thew whole story open prior to the 2000 election (which might have buried Bush).

Hatfield was almost destoryed by this. The story was discreditted because the messenger was unreliable (not because the actual core facts were untrue).


The tactic may also have been used using Hatfield as a sucker for a leaked story (and he said as much) Hatfield wrote in July 2001 about Osama planning a "james Bond-like aerial attack" on American targets (including Bush) with remote controlled planes laden with explosives which Hatfield suggested was a fake CIA leak designed to boost Bush's sagging poll numbers in the summer of 2001.

Two weeks later cops showed up at Hatfield's home. Seized his computer and seized him as well as taking him away and confiscating other documents from his home. The next day he was found dead in a hotel room after writing 5 suicide notes (including one the the cop who let him "go" so he could kill himself with drugs and booze). I thinkhe was given a "Rommels choice" and he did it to save his wife and infant daughter from execution (kill yourself or we slaughter your entire family).

A quick google using "James Hatfield", Bush and Osama will bring you to the online jlournal article about the attacks which Hatfield learned about from intel sources in Europe and wrote about on July 3 2001. Dead two weeks later. Suicided.

Dan Rather (who himself was a useful tool when he was the only reporter who got to see and report on the original Zapruder film with the frames reversed to show JFK's head blowing backwards after the first shot (frames reversed) became another famous victim of inoculatioin when his report on Bush and the National Guard awol story was "verified" with doctored documents which discreditted Rather and the whole story (bad typewriter!!! - unlike Nixon and the typewriter he had in the alger hiss case proving that Hiss was a spy (not), the BFEE is not to original but they are effective). Rather may have fallen on his sword (he is filthy rich already) to help his mentors from the JFK days and pump up his "liberal" creds LOL)


The NSA fed stories to the X Files and also to the Lone Gunman. This story is allegedly original and relatively a no brainer given all the circumstances. The series was cancelled after one season. Nobody watched it - it sucked pretty bad - and the three wise men were snuffed in a valiant effort to stop a mass bioattack which might have killed off millions (another inoculation - this time a fairly lone nut - what they now call "a lone wolf" terrorist - a scientist I believe).


9-11 was an inside job with a handful of ops who could handle the remote flying into all the targets. It may be that EMP (like with wellstone) was used to take down the flight in Pennsy because the passengers DID revolt and if they had gotten into the cockpit the fact that it was a remote flight (and not the hapless patsy Saudi strip club goers flying the plane) would have been clear (as it becomes clear in the lone gunman episode).

All the dumbass saudis thought they had to do was get into the cockpit and fly to wherever they were told to once they killed to pilots and loked the cockpit. They probably had no fucking idea what was happening when the planes began to fly themselves. That is why all they needed was boxcutters. That way the blame would fall on them and no one (except those with Cheney's clearance) even had to know who was flying the planes.


Inoculation.

Keep your eye out for it. It is one of the most brilliant black psyops ever invented.

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[hanshan]

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tx MinM for diggin' that out -

Seventhsonjr presented a consistently interesting perspective


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[KeenInsight]

That Lone Gunmen episode has perplexed me for many years. It has too many coincidences.

[FourthBase]

That Lone Gunmen episode has perplexed me for many years. It has too many coincidences.

Yep.

But...

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Is it possible that these conspiracy-ARG-makers are consciously or unknowingly tuned into or fed real material about real conspiracies, which they then bastardize and commoditize, distracting from the real ones, dipping the real ones in a safe, discrediting candy-coated fiction? Not that we'd need to meta-examine the ARGs for clues about real ones which we already know all too well, but perhaps we shouldn't refuse that option outright. And needless to say, to the non-RI world, these ARGs are not only useless but counterproductive to real comprehension and investigation. Then again, let's not be so automatic in condemning the makers' motivations. Hugh here would detect keywords being hijacked, and he failed to imagine that some of the keyword-makers might have actually been trying to promote the entities he assumed were being obscured. Vigilant Citizen detects Monarch programming symbology in music videos, and fails to imagine that some of the artists and directors might be crying out for help from us and trying to expose the perpetrators, instead of merely promoting an evil agenda. It's quite possible that some or many instances of what we perceive as nefarious co-optation are actually just bad attempts to communicate truths for our benefit. What'd be worse is if the attempts aren't even all that bad, are possibly even an ingenious strategy to circumvent taboos against truth-telling, and if they are simply falling on deaf, righteous ears habituated to ignore them as traps, always and only ever traps. How tragic, absurd, and grimly laughable would that be?

For example, what if I was a fool for suspecting the Lone Gunmen creators for being "in on it" in an accomplice way, because what if they were "in on it" in a "Warning, warning, danger America! Be on guard for this scenario, please, for the love of god!" kind of way? Naturally, it could all just be empty, meaningless, coincidental entertainment commerce, just conceptually dredging past-present-future traumatic possibilities for profit, cash money, nothing more. But, should we be 100% certain of that cynical interpretation, or 100% certain of the deeply-paranoid always-negative interpretation? I say: HELL NO. That certainty could be disastrous, like most certainty. Let's be more 99%-y about this stuff. Not that individuals shouldn't feel free to be and express themselves with 100% certitude, because that is probably integral to the dialectic process, to have individually-certain participants. But, well, I guess it's for the rest of us to decide to be however certain we each feel is appropriate. But it behooves us to have at least one meta-meta-meta-skeptic. Maybe I'm it, lol.

You all realize, right, that -- along with the good folks at the JFK Education Forum, the nobler factions of Anonymous, and several other of the best congregations of unspeakable-truth-seekers (won't bother to list examples, but feel free to list your own ideas) -- we are the real-life Lone Gunmen, a kind of hive-version, but still...Lone...you realize that, right?

[JackRiddler]

[ rundown of vivid dream / synchronicities ]

Regarding 9/11 synchronicities such as The Lone Gunmen's March, 2001 pilot episode (hijacked, remote-controlled airliners target the World Trade Center to trigger a war for profit), and the Coup's June 2001 cover art, (the towers explode near the floors of impact), I contended the artists were not somehow tipped off to the plot, but rather they tapped into the dark frequencies which soon after began troubling the dreams of so many. I'm beginning to wonder whether it will be by recovering our ability to astonish ourselves that we will save ourselves....[/i]

We'll leave The Coup out of it.

Do you really believe this is what's going on in Lone Gunmen? It aired in March and was therefore probably being filmed in late 2000, It's the pilot episode, the script might have been around for years. The details are clinical, precise. It's not a feeling of dread about things in the air in Manhattan, it's a step-by-step plot about how mil-intel insiders devise a plan to hijack a passenger airliner and fly it into the Doubleyou Fucking Tee Cee (the reveal line: "Corner of Church and Liberty"), which is actually filmed for the climactic scene, with the motive being that foreign enemies would be blamed and the US would go to war forever and the perpetrators' set would have guaranteed paydays for at least as long, amen.

Here was my premonition, and it wasn't a premonition but a conclusion from knowing a moderate amount of stuff. Wait, full disclosure, first let's do my longstanding prejudices: In the late 1980s I conceived the idea that the United States imperial project, in the absence of a credible superpower to fight, would inevitably one day require the outright manufacture of new, omnipresent enemies; and that this would involve orchestrating terror on domestic soil. Or maybe I got the idea from Brazil? (The movie.) Nevertheless, this seemed like a far-off thing to me until the actual premonition, early 2001: After the Iran-Contra crew was installed into the White House by an election fix that additionally required a judicial coup d'etat to enforce, I said, Next up, Reichstag Fire. And I was sure of it, and I made jokes about it for days, except I knew it wasn't a joke. At the same time, it was a period in which I didn't particularly care to know more. If I had thought about specifics for 10 minutes more, I would have of course guessed the obvious main target in the first minute and perhaps brainstormed the scenario (as one of many possibilities) in the remaining nine. It's certainly what I was thinking the first minute I saw the Towers burning on the TV, and what I told to the first person I spoke to about it. (The subsequent collapse of the Towers was rather traumatic, as with most people, and I suppressed the idea for about six days, during which I mainly cried and wanted to Kill Taliban, which seems like a perfectly reasonable thing to want.)

By the way, what do you think explains Delmart Vreeland? Probably doesn't matter, just mentioning one that you took seriously once. But what about the Jordanian warning that an attack was coming and it would be codenamed the Big Wedding? Vivid dreaming? The fork-over of the names of the four ringleaders by the Israelis in August? The Russian "25 pilots" warning? Do you think the wargames and operations planning for day-of-9/11 was synchronicity?

Norman Mailer himself, no kidding, in 2002 responded to my question of whether 9/11 was orchestrated (after he himself had laid out how amazing the timing was) by saying, "That was the Devil's day." The fiery mix had been prepared, he told me, and the devil stepped in to set it off.

Bullshit. The dream-guesses probably are real cases of something reverberating in ways present physics does not or refuses to understand; but the detailed foreshadowing going around was based on foreknowledge.

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[DrVolin]

Do you think Chavez knew about Mailer's statement from 2002?

[JackRiddler]

Do you think Chavez knew about Mailer's statement from 2002?

Nope. Also, Mailer meant literally that the Devil, an actual sentient super-being, biblical embodiment of evil, antagonist to God, etc. took the opportunity of the moment to steer Bin Ladin's hijackers as per official story into setting off the explosive mix on 9/11, the "devil's day," as he put it. To wreak general havoc and chaos. As I forgot a book of his for him to sign, I had him write it in my notebook and sign that.

[MinM]

......the "script" - re 2nd Generation Chechen clean-skins is quite reminisicent of the climactic plot-strand in this thing :

Such realistic parallels result from executive producer Tracey Alexander's entrée into government circles, courtesy of retired Navy captain Larry Seaquist, a Grid technical adviser. "He had access to everybody," she says. "He took me into the National Security Council. I met a bunch of counterterrorists," along with State Department, CIA and Pentagon veterans.

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"We war-gamed it," Alexander says. "We tried to put ourselves into the heads of where al Qaeda could be in a couple of years, how a new cell could spin up out of nothing, what that new cell would consist of."

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2004-07-13-grid_x.htm

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Just recently watched this because of this post. The show actually was a predictor/inoculation for the Boston Bombings and the 7/7 London Bombings.