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Postby isachar » Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:18 pm

Add to list: Ray Lemme, Florida State investigator who was murder/suicided in Georgia hotel room while actively investigating fraudulent Florida 2000 vote and related contract, political/business corruption.
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Postby NeonLX » Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:24 pm

John O'Neill? (FBI Deputy Director and head of security at the WTC on 9/11)

On edit: Oops, I see he's mentioned in an earlier post.
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Postby Seventhsonjr » Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:14 pm

Moon Face Bear - who died under very mysterious circumstances while fighting as a true warrior for Native Soveriegnty


Attorney Paul Sanford who was murdered after asking at a White House press conferecne whether Karl Rove's leaking of Valery Plames status as a covert CIA operative was TREASON. He also fought to challenge the use of the expression "under God" in the pledge of allegiance in schools as a violation of church and state. Died after falling from a 10th or eleventh floor into a hotel atrium under extremely suspicioous circumstamces onChristmas Eve a year ago. He was also a good friend of mine at one point in my life and his wife and kids and friends all believe this was not suicide.
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Postby erosoplier » Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:09 pm

judasdisney wrote:One additional question I have for anybody regarding this type of list is: Where are all the Australian corpses?

It seems that Joe Hillshoist has taken a break from this board, but for any Aussies out there, where's the AU beef? You don't seem to assassinate your leaders in cold blood -- Gough Whitlam had it easy.


(Not really my area, but...)

Maybe it's the lack of fierce winters, and the resulting lack of serious brewding and sinister plotting time, but we in Australia generally choose to put up with bastards we don't like, and do our best to vote them out at the next election rather than kill them.

Or maybe it's the short (3 year) span between elections - we don't ever feel that it's too long to wait for an opportunity to remove a problem.

When Australians hear that the CIA may have been behind Whitlam's dismissal, most are inclined to swell with pride that little old Australia is important enough that the CIA would bother with us. I think Gough was a bit that way himself.

Much speculation about Harold Holt - a PM who disappeared while snorkeling in 1966 - but he seemed to be doing all that was asked of him, he was "all the way with LBJ," so I don't see any motive with that one (though I do remember hearing someone claim that Holt was looking into the government printing its own money at the time he disappeared - must look into that sometime soon).

Some would count Martin Bryant as our most prominent person who had something unexpected and nasty happen to him in recent years, but he was a patsy in that case, not a political player.
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Postby 8bitagent » Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:01 pm

sunny wrote:Nick Berg (military psy-op, 9/11 cover-up)


From my research, it looks pretty evident that intelligence used Nick Berg in Norman Oklahoma, placing him in the 9/11 hijacker cell's pool of friends for whatever reason..and may have even purchased some of the Flight 93 tickets. Can there be any other reason that Nick Berg was seen hanging out with Zacharius Moussaoui, Melvin Lattimore, Hussein al Attas and others?
Can there be any other reason Nick Bergs emails and passwords were found on al Qaeda laptops?

Berg then ends up in Iraq with an Iraqi tied to the WMD lie campaign, setting up Prometheus Tower industries...Berg's business partner last interviewed by Jeff Gannon(you just knew Gannon would tie into 9/11 and WMD lies in retrospect) and Berg was last interviewed by Michael Moore.

Berg gets mysteriously detained by the US, and a couple days later his head is found in an alley.

sunny wrote:Chandra Levy (9/11, Mossad? OKC?)


Im not sure I follow?

Only thing Ive seen connect 9/11 to OKC, as well as WTC 1993 is Melvin Lattimore/Mujahadid Menepta, the middle aged black CIA provocatuer used as the nexus points for all three attacks
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Postby sunny » Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:17 pm

8bit:

Im not sure I follow?

Only thing Ive seen connect 9/11 to OKC, as well as WTC 1993 is Melvin Lattimore/Mujahadid Menepta, the middle aged black CIA provocatuer used as the nexus points for all three attacks


Click the link. I'm not saying the source is reliable, just that he makes some interesting connections and not necessarily between OKC and 9/11, but between Chandra and both of those disasters.
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Edward von Kloberg III

Postby dqueue » Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:28 pm

Edward von Kloberg III - (lobbyist to several dictatorial regimes)
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Postby 8bitagent » Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:51 pm

sunny wrote:8bit:

Im not sure I follow?

Only thing Ive seen connect 9/11 to OKC, as well as WTC 1993 is Melvin Lattimore/Mujahadid Menepta, the middle aged black CIA provocatuer used as the nexus points for all three attacks


Click the link. I'm not saying the source is reliable, just that he makes some interesting connections and not necessarily between OKC and 9/11, but between Chandra and both of those disasters.


Just read it. I like how it does go into Melvin Lattimore(the biggest smoking gun of WTC93-OKC-911 connections) but yeah...I do remember Levy's disappearence WAS the biggest news story of 2001 right until those planes hit the towers. Very interesting article, I didnt know about another Clinton intern being killed

It is an interesting proposition from what I am reading from the article.

I believe Daniel Pearl was killed for discovering that ISI controls al Qaeda..I believe Nick Berg was used in the 9/11 hijacker cells...
so I wouldnt be shocked in the Levy case somehow connects to this.

Just as I feel Jon Benet and Laci Petersen connects to some of the very sinister dark stuff Jeff has written many blogs about.

Anyways, heres an even better Levy/conspiracy/911 article, thats starts off by getting into Ali Mohamed, the mastermind of 1998 embassy attacks and WTC 1993 now "under witness protection"
http://memes.org/delay-tim-mc-veighs-ex ... confession
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Postby Susserer » Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:52 pm

Jack Cram (lawyer of Renate Andres-Auger, who was forced into psychiatric care after going public with information about high ranking pedo's in BC)
Renate Andres-Auger (Native rights, forced into hiding after uncovering pedo ring connected with Vancouver Club)

However, the sex trade in children is not a recent happening in Vancouver. While doing some research for this presentation, I came across the affidavit of a Cree lawyer named Renate Andres-Auger who filed an affidavit in April 1994 naming prominent legal personalities and the BC Law Society for destroying her legal practice and libeling and slandering her (I have a copy of that affidavit listing prominent plaintiffs with me).

Renate Auger alleged this happened partly because of her knowledge of pedophile rings operating out of the Vancouver Club and out of resorts in Whistler. In a very bizarre scene as it was described in the papers I discovered, Ms. Auger and her lawyer, Jack Cram, were first not listened to in the court, and then were handcuffed and dragged out of

the courtroom to a jail cell. When Jack Cram eventually did speak, he put before the judge some of his allegations involving cover-ups by the head officers of the Law Society and the judiciary to aid and abet pedophiles and drug dealers. When he insisted on giving more details on radio, Jack Cram was met by 10 policemen upon his return from a radio station. He was then put into an ambulance and taken to the psychiatric ward of Vancouver General Hospital. He believes he was injected again and again with mind disorienting drugs.

The Cram/Andres-Auger story, to this day, remains a very strange and fearful tale of alleged corruption and pedophilia in high places. It is also a story which has never yet been completely told. Perhaps if it were, along with a few other strange stories, we as Canadians would have little reason to gasp at the exposure of pedophile rings in Belgium operating in high places two years ago. The matter of cover-ups possibly existing for those in high places in Canada is becoming more and more credible as more and more people speak out.

But the sex trade in children, especially young Native children, goes back much further than the time of Renate Andres-Auger. This became a very real fact to me, unthinkable as it was, last June 12 to 14 when I happened to attend a Tribunal arranged by a UN affiliate group here in Vancouver to hear testimonies of Native people who had attended the church-run residential schools. Although I have been associated with Amnesty International since its beginnings in 1961, I must admit that what I heard at that Tribunal was horribly disturbing and shattering. I am still haunted by the disturbing accounts given of little children, aged 5 and 6, being taken from their parents and grandparents by police who took them in gunboats to schools, some of them never to see their homes or their villages again.

Not only were tales recounted of unfathomable cruelty and torture to little children dragged away from their homes and put under the legal guardianship of church-run schools, but even worse were the accounts given of pedophile groups consisting of church men and women administering what were called "white vitamins" to little children of 9 and 10 who were taken one by one to the so-called infirmary at night. Few of them recalled what happened next except that when they came to, they often saw blood on a sheet and remembered experiencing great pain.

Harriet Nahanee, a Native elder, has given the police her story of hearing a young child called Maisie Williams crying on Christmas Eve for her mother after being with one of the alleged pedophiles at the Port Alberni School. And then Ms. Nahanee testified that this child was pushed down the basement steps to where Harriet Nahanee was herself hiding. This young girl is reported by Ms. Nahanee to have died, and this is confirmed in a copy of the school records I have seen. Ms. Nahanee herself alleges she was molested time and time again by the principal of the school, a Rev. Caldwell, who has since died. And the police therefore claim they can take no action on her story. Other women at the Tribunal testified to "being cleaned up" on a Saturday night and being taken often by Native people themselves to clients. One person mentioned the Vancouver Club.

At this same Tribunal, a Native man spoke abut being taken home by a teacher at Christmas and then being given alcohol before being sexually molested. The names of many Reverends, Sisters, Fathers, and Brothers were given as story after story of terrifying sexual exploitation and cruelty was told. To run away was to risk merciless beatings with electrical wires and horse harnesses - perhaps even death in the barns, one man said. All of this is on record. How prevalent such cases were, one can only guess.

Certainly everyone here tonight should think carefully upon the figures given in the Royal Commission Report on Aboriginals that 125,000 children went into those schools and 50,000 never came out. We can only guess what those children, both boys and girls, were subjected to. Undoubtedly, only part of the anguish was sexual exploitation, but it was a very horrible part that has remained an enduring nightmare for many of the victims. Certainly, as one listened amid the sobbing and the anguish at that Tribunal to stories being told of all kinds of sexual predators and perverts, one realized that these schools, often in remote places with inaccessible transportation, must have been havens for sexual perverts and pedophiles.

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Do we have Charles D. Riechers yet?

Postby pepsified thinker » Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:57 pm

I'm searching for an old post I did a while back (about a Fox -associated movie called "Beyond the Gates of Splendor") and in the course of that I saw this old post:

http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/v ... highlight=

so here's the name, etc.

Charles D. Riechers(Air Force/CIA/SRI)
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Postby Ziggin' and a Zaggin' » Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:09 pm

Philip J. Corso (May 22, 1915 - July 16, 1998) - author of The Day After Roswell.

(Excerpts from wikipedia):

He served in the United States Army from February 23, 1942 to March 1, 1963, and earned the rank of Lieutenant Colonel.

...

Late in his life in the book The Day After Roswell, Corso claimed that he was involved in the research of extraterrestrial technology recovered from the 1947 Roswell UFO crash.


Some time ago, I had read that some people considered his death suspicious but I couldn't find information to support this allegation. Dying of a heart attack at age 83 is not uncommon.
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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:03 am

erosoplier wrote:
judasdisney wrote:One additional question I have for anybody regarding this type of list is: Where are all the Australian corpses?

It seems that Joe Hillshoist has taken a break from this board, but for any Aussies out there, where's the AU beef? You don't seem to assassinate your leaders in cold blood -- Gough Whitlam had it easy.


(Not really my area, but...)

Maybe it's the lack of fierce winters, and the resulting lack of serious brewding and sinister plotting time, but we in Australia generally choose to put up with bastards we don't like, and do our best to vote them out at the next election rather than kill them.

Or maybe it's the short (3 year) span between elections - we don't ever feel that it's too long to wait for an opportunity to remove a problem.

When Australians hear that the CIA may have been behind Whitlam's dismissal, most are inclined to swell with pride that little old Australia is important enough that the CIA would bother with us. I think Gough was a bit that way himself.

Much speculation about Harold Holt - a PM who disappeared while snorkeling in 1966 - but he seemed to be doing all that was asked of him, he was "all the way with LBJ," so I don't see any motive with that one (though I do remember hearing someone claim that Holt was looking into the government printing its own money at the time he disappeared - must look into that sometime soon).

Some would count Martin Bryant as our most prominent person who had something unexpected and nasty happen to him in recent years, but he was a patsy in that case, not a political player.


I went to melbourne for a holiday and didn't have an internet connection.

Pardon the lack of formatting, if I can find good info I will fix it up. This is off the top of my head.

Alphonse Gangitano (sp?) Probably shot by Jason Moran, however he may have been shot by Victoria Police, or on their behalf after naming names re police corruption on current affairs show 4 corners.

John Friedrich. Suicided in the 80s during some scandal or other, probably not sus but their were suggestions of involvement with various alphabet agencies.

Frank Nugan. Do I really need to explain that one? Nugan Hand bank, CIA drug money laundering, etc etc.

There are others, like the family murders in SA, Ivan milat, but i guess Australia is pretty small, and they are not so much shutting people up as possible doorways into elite peadophilia and all that ugliness.
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Postby §ê¢rꆧ » Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:38 am

What a great idea-!

How about ...

Vince Foster (Whitewater)

Not a topic I know a whole lot about, but there is some controversy about his death.

((Edited to add))

Also Barry Seal (Drug Trafficker / Mena Arkansas / CIA)

"Officially" murdered by the Medellín Cartel, Hopsicker in "Barry and the Boys" suggests Seal was likely murdered by CIA.
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Postby parel » Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:10 am

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