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judasdisney wrote:One additional question I have for anybody regarding this type of list is: Where are all the Australian corpses?
It seems that Joe Hillshoist has taken a break from this board, but for any Aussies out there, where's the AU beef? You don't seem to assassinate your leaders in cold blood -- Gough Whitlam had it easy.
sunny wrote:Nick Berg (military psy-op, 9/11 cover-up)
sunny wrote:Chandra Levy (9/11, Mossad? OKC?)
Im not sure I follow?
Only thing Ive seen connect 9/11 to OKC, as well as WTC 1993 is Melvin Lattimore/Mujahadid Menepta, the middle aged black CIA provocatuer used as the nexus points for all three attacks
sunny wrote:8bit:Im not sure I follow?
Only thing Ive seen connect 9/11 to OKC, as well as WTC 1993 is Melvin Lattimore/Mujahadid Menepta, the middle aged black CIA provocatuer used as the nexus points for all three attacks
Click the link. I'm not saying the source is reliable, just that he makes some interesting connections and not necessarily between OKC and 9/11, but between Chandra and both of those disasters.
However, the sex trade in children is not a recent happening in Vancouver. While doing some research for this presentation, I came across the affidavit of a Cree lawyer named Renate Andres-Auger who filed an affidavit in April 1994 naming prominent legal personalities and the BC Law Society for destroying her legal practice and libeling and slandering her (I have a copy of that affidavit listing prominent plaintiffs with me).
Renate Auger alleged this happened partly because of her knowledge of pedophile rings operating out of the Vancouver Club and out of resorts in Whistler. In a very bizarre scene as it was described in the papers I discovered, Ms. Auger and her lawyer, Jack Cram, were first not listened to in the court, and then were handcuffed and dragged out of
the courtroom to a jail cell. When Jack Cram eventually did speak, he put before the judge some of his allegations involving cover-ups by the head officers of the Law Society and the judiciary to aid and abet pedophiles and drug dealers. When he insisted on giving more details on radio, Jack Cram was met by 10 policemen upon his return from a radio station. He was then put into an ambulance and taken to the psychiatric ward of Vancouver General Hospital. He believes he was injected again and again with mind disorienting drugs.
The Cram/Andres-Auger story, to this day, remains a very strange and fearful tale of alleged corruption and pedophilia in high places. It is also a story which has never yet been completely told. Perhaps if it were, along with a few other strange stories, we as Canadians would have little reason to gasp at the exposure of pedophile rings in Belgium operating in high places two years ago. The matter of cover-ups possibly existing for those in high places in Canada is becoming more and more credible as more and more people speak out.
But the sex trade in children, especially young Native children, goes back much further than the time of Renate Andres-Auger. This became a very real fact to me, unthinkable as it was, last June 12 to 14 when I happened to attend a Tribunal arranged by a UN affiliate group here in Vancouver to hear testimonies of Native people who had attended the church-run residential schools. Although I have been associated with Amnesty International since its beginnings in 1961, I must admit that what I heard at that Tribunal was horribly disturbing and shattering. I am still haunted by the disturbing accounts given of little children, aged 5 and 6, being taken from their parents and grandparents by police who took them in gunboats to schools, some of them never to see their homes or their villages again.
Not only were tales recounted of unfathomable cruelty and torture to little children dragged away from their homes and put under the legal guardianship of church-run schools, but even worse were the accounts given of pedophile groups consisting of church men and women administering what were called "white vitamins" to little children of 9 and 10 who were taken one by one to the so-called infirmary at night. Few of them recalled what happened next except that when they came to, they often saw blood on a sheet and remembered experiencing great pain.
Harriet Nahanee, a Native elder, has given the police her story of hearing a young child called Maisie Williams crying on Christmas Eve for her mother after being with one of the alleged pedophiles at the Port Alberni School. And then Ms. Nahanee testified that this child was pushed down the basement steps to where Harriet Nahanee was herself hiding. This young girl is reported by Ms. Nahanee to have died, and this is confirmed in a copy of the school records I have seen. Ms. Nahanee herself alleges she was molested time and time again by the principal of the school, a Rev. Caldwell, who has since died. And the police therefore claim they can take no action on her story. Other women at the Tribunal testified to "being cleaned up" on a Saturday night and being taken often by Native people themselves to clients. One person mentioned the Vancouver Club.
At this same Tribunal, a Native man spoke abut being taken home by a teacher at Christmas and then being given alcohol before being sexually molested. The names of many Reverends, Sisters, Fathers, and Brothers were given as story after story of terrifying sexual exploitation and cruelty was told. To run away was to risk merciless beatings with electrical wires and horse harnesses - perhaps even death in the barns, one man said. All of this is on record. How prevalent such cases were, one can only guess.
Certainly everyone here tonight should think carefully upon the figures given in the Royal Commission Report on Aboriginals that 125,000 children went into those schools and 50,000 never came out. We can only guess what those children, both boys and girls, were subjected to. Undoubtedly, only part of the anguish was sexual exploitation, but it was a very horrible part that has remained an enduring nightmare for many of the victims. Certainly, as one listened amid the sobbing and the anguish at that Tribunal to stories being told of all kinds of sexual predators and perverts, one realized that these schools, often in remote places with inaccessible transportation, must have been havens for sexual perverts and pedophiles.
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erosoplier wrote:judasdisney wrote:One additional question I have for anybody regarding this type of list is: Where are all the Australian corpses?
It seems that Joe Hillshoist has taken a break from this board, but for any Aussies out there, where's the AU beef? You don't seem to assassinate your leaders in cold blood -- Gough Whitlam had it easy.
(Not really my area, but...)
Maybe it's the lack of fierce winters, and the resulting lack of serious brewding and sinister plotting time, but we in Australia generally choose to put up with bastards we don't like, and do our best to vote them out at the next election rather than kill them.
Or maybe it's the short (3 year) span between elections - we don't ever feel that it's too long to wait for an opportunity to remove a problem.
When Australians hear that the CIA may have been behind Whitlam's dismissal, most are inclined to swell with pride that little old Australia is important enough that the CIA would bother with us. I think Gough was a bit that way himself.
Much speculation about Harold Holt - a PM who disappeared while snorkeling in 1966 - but he seemed to be doing all that was asked of him, he was "all the way with LBJ," so I don't see any motive with that one (though I do remember hearing someone claim that Holt was looking into the government printing its own money at the time he disappeared - must look into that sometime soon).
Some would count Martin Bryant as our most prominent person who had something unexpected and nasty happen to him in recent years, but he was a patsy in that case, not a political player.
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