Mainstream proves whose really behind child kidnapping rings

[11:11]

8bit, I really enjoy talking to you.

Do you have any ideas about what we should do? Lol, how desparate does that sound?!

[8bitagent]

8bit, I really enjoy talking to you.

Do you have any ideas about what we should do? Lol, how desparate does that sound?!

Well I mean I think all we can do is in our own lives, just try and be kind and helpful...help inspire people to reach for their dreams.

I'm in America, where so many people are ultra ethno centric and have no clue about the outside world...they are totally insulated by television, fast food, and their own crazy intentional drama. They no longer dare to dream. When we dare to dream, then we are giving up.

So yes, its devestating to hear about Ugandan children forced to rape and kill villages, or Bush planning to attack Iran soon. And all the evil going on.

But giving into paranoia and hate seems to be what some want, and as much as it sounds like being naive...sometimes being ignorant yet aware can be good for our sanity.

Thats why I advocate people do art, write, be creative and go on trips or long walks. I try and go to the beach, inspire people, and nurture my innocent/creative/explorative side.
Because I have the luxury of not being in a war torn or impoverished country.

So I dont really have an answer...and I can see why some turn to religion.
heh

[blanc]

yesferatu, read, if you have not already, the pehi article, via the dutroux thread on data dump. not sure where you are coming from or going to, but satanic and ritual elements are bound up with child abuse and trafficking. much can be lost or garbled in interpretation and theorising about their significance, but they exist.

11:11 and 8bit hope you dont mind me chipping in on the what we can do angle. being nice and ok is one thing, sure, but also being informed and spreading information is another. there is an active dimension to info it seems to me. corporations, (which are in law are answerable to only their shareholders I think, and these shareholders are now disenfranchised), play a significant role in cover up and laundering activities. looking carefully at who is controlling any given corporation may be useful in determining what small scale decisions an individual may make with his or her purchasing power. right now I am thinking of Fortis as an example. I supose I am positing an ethical trading stance, a bit like the green movement's stance toward ecology, but save the children rather than save the planet. likewise in voting _ rather than adopting the cop out that one's vote is useless because the system is corrupted, however true that may be, take a save the children stance. who backs the candidate, what is the candidate doing or promising to do for child protection. In the recent presidentials in france only Sego had any mention of this issue in the election brochures. this hardly reflects the concerns of most ordinary people, who put their children above all else. with enough spread of information, some outing of offenders and their companies, might we not make some ripples?

[Username]

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this is sick

and the fact that it is so prevalent leads me to believe that every goddamn representative in our government knows about it,

the leaders of nations worldwide know about it,

judges know,

every goddamn hollywood actor knows about it,

every goddamn 4 star general knows about it,

many cops know about it,

many child protective services know what's going on and

no one says a goddamn thing about it. NO ONE speaks up for the children.

what the hell.

what kind of scum are these elite who are so secretive about the disgusting criminal actions being committed by their class...

which leads me to ask, what would be wrong with "class warfare" anyway?

it's becoming more and more obvious the scum has risen to the top.

i recently finished reading beth goobie's book The Only-Good Heart,
which is a novel drawing from her own experiences and the experiences of others who have lived this nightmare.

back in march i posted a couple of her articles here at RI, in which she talks about what it was like for her growing up in a "intergenerational
CIA-connected cult that continues to operate in central Ontario."
http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/v ... sc&start=0

currently i am reading her autobiographical collection of poetry contained in the book Scars of Light.

these titles have been the most difficult and heart-rending books i have ever read.

in time, when i am able to collect my thoughts about what beth has written, i'd like to make a post perhaps under the book forum, to gain a better understanding of these atrocities in the hopes of healing the wounds and stopping the slaughter of innocence and trust.

peace,
terry

[blanc]

the existence of well covered up exteme abuse of children is only explicable by an understanding of its links with a fascist agenda. it isn't an accident or co-incidence that techniques for creating fragmented minds practised in mkultra have become the province of what at first glance seem to be primarily criminal (as opposed to governmental) organisations; we have to take this back to its roots. No democratically minded individual or institution could take a means justified by ends stance to the torture and abuse of children, yet we are supposed to accept that this is what happened in cia led experimentation? certain means do inevitably destroy the ends they are supposed to serve, IF those ends are a free, equal society with respect for the individual's human rights. You can't pursue the defense of freedom by annihilating it, by creating slaves, you cant defend freedom by destroying free thought processes.

however worried or spooked by threat of communism, it is simply incredible that any person or organisation would posit rape and torture of children as a means to secure a free society.
Yet that is supposed to be the explanation which lets the experimenters off the hook. That fears about what communists had achieved in brainwashing techniques led them to feel they must play catch up.

Accept that this experimentation was an early manifest of a different agenda, and those who indulged in it served that agenda, and it makes a kind of sense, and makes even more sense when the huge trillion dollar profits from crime are taken into account.

Dutroux case exposed, as never before, the criminal-governmental links. That is its extreme importance and relevance to current events.

[FourthBase]

Bump. This is an excellent thread. Plenty of substance to the "woo".

[slow_dazzle]

here

103 children - at 1 per "family" that's 103 families who must have been involved. At 2 per "family" that's 50 families.

Something stinks here. An operation like this one is a concerted affair and it involved a lot of planning, no doubt. And it required people who were willing to keep their mouths shut.

As I said, something stinks here.

[8bitagent]

Bump. This is an excellent thread. Plenty of substance to the "woo".

Thanks. Yeah you know, dont people ever wonder where the drugs come from/whats behind the drugs, who funds the terrorism, and where do all the missing kids go that we get advertisements for in the mail?

I have my views on what some of the even uglier(if its even possible)
reasons behind the child kidnapping is, and it goes beyond the mere "woo".

A pretty apro po subject since it's all hallow's eve now; as Hunter S Thompson wrote...sadly Autumn is the time when many children are kidnapped and killed in sacrifice

[blanc]

a bit more number crunching to illustrate the scale of the problem of organised abuse.
In the Wonderland case, one example, the police operation yielded 750,000 computerised pictures and more than 1,800 computerised videos depicting children suffering.

[8bitagent]

Oh man, you guys seen this explosive Rudy Giuliani child sex kidnapping coverup?

http://www.911blogger.com/node/8922

and also this
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=3753385&page=1

[8bitagent]

Thought I'd give this a bump, for anyone who wonders what the other big nwo agenda is besides 9/11-Islamic terror and war.

[blanc]

all linked at a quite basic level 8bit agent.
arms trafficking needs money to be moved and bankers can be helpful
no war, no suppression, without arms cirumventing embargoes.

[theeKultleeder]

Thought I'd give this a bump, for anyone who wonders what the other big nwo agenda is besides 9/11-Islamic terror and war.

Did you ever think for a moment that crazy religions give rise to crazy actions?

Like Islam?

[8bitagent]

Thought I'd give this a bump, for anyone who wonders what the other big nwo agenda is besides 9/11-Islamic terror and war.

Did you ever think for a moment that crazy religions give rise to crazy actions?

Like Islam?

Did you ever think that fundie Abrahamic faiths are a tool of the elite to control the population?

[theeKultleeder]

Thought I'd give this a bump, for anyone who wonders what the other big nwo agenda is besides 9/11-Islamic terror and war.

Did you ever think for a moment that crazy religions give rise to crazy actions?

Like Islam?

Did you ever think that fundie Abrahamic faiths are a tool of the elite to control the population?

Yeah, but you draw it down to one group of evil-doers...

I say, Arabs CAN do bad things without the commands of white people.