If David Icke's "reptilian humanoid" routine is a

[philipacentaur]

...metaphor, how is he not guilty of doing the same thing he claims to be against i.e. fooling people to further an agenda? If it isn't a metaphor, then he has no proof and doesn't show any evidence of attempting to gather any.

Discuss.

[slimmouse]

...metaphor, how is he not guilty of doing the same thing he claims to be against i.e. fooling people to further an agenda? If it isn't a metaphor, then he has no proof and doesn't show any evidence of attempting to gather any.

Discuss.

Who said Icke claimed he was speaking metaphorically ?

I use "metaphorically" often in inverted commas when speaking of the reptiles who rule us, cos that is the closest definition to cold blooded mother fucking greeding territorial sneaky murdering sons of bitches that reptiles actually are.

Except of course that these reptiles have what might be defined as " intelligence" ( consciousness ) - ie they are warm blooded, and as opposed to your commoner garden lizard, they KNOW that what they do is inflicting suffering on their fellows.

If you want to know where Icke is coming from, then you might go and spend a few weeks with Credo Mutwa, or look at the written legends of a thousand tomes, and then use a modicum of common sense, particularly when combined with looking at the actions of the Reptiles ( metaphorically speaking you understand ) who rule us today.

[philipacentaur]

Address the question. If it's not a metaphor, and I've reason to believe that Icke believes it's not, then where is the physical proof of these so-called reptilian humanoids? Oh, right -- I guess I should expect some pseudo-scientific, faux-spiritual crap as an answer. That's always the answer.

And I'm supposed to take legends at face value? That would indicate my capacity for common sense? Hahaha.

Human beings are not lizards or vice-versa. No wonder you find Darwin so bewildering.

[slimmouse]

Address the question. If it's not a metaphor, and I've reason to believe that Icke believes it's not, then where is the physical proof of these so-called reptilian humanoids? Oh, right -- I guess I should expect some pseudo-scientific, faux-spiritual crap as an answer. That's always the answer.

And I'm supposed to take legends at face value. That would indicate my capacity for common sense? Hahaha.

Philip my Dear,

This site is called rigourous intuition.

Rigorous referring to the left brain , and intuition referring to the right ( as i understand it)

So , combine the left brain, with the right, and tell me in all seriousness that you believe that this world isnt ruled by people with a reptilian mindset.

Once your satisfied that this is clearly the case ( the world is ruled by cold blooded mass murdering territorial deceptive greed fucks), then perhaps we can proceed.

There are many clues on this site as to why what Icke is saying may well be the case.

Incidentally, how many weeks have you spent with Credo Mutwa ? Or is he and his knowledge just some stupid old African talking crap for a few bucks ?

[orz]

Ike is just showbusiness. Don't get why people get so upset when one totally dismisses him?... "hey he's got some good points if you ignore the reptillian stuff"... "yes but it's a good metaphor"... "you gotta admit there could be something to it"...

Rubbish, he's cashing in on us, writing schlocky mainstream conspiracy books full of totally unproven rambling blather.

You can do without him entirely, and avoid the tainted 'reptillian' metaphor; use your own words and still make the same points and say the same things, only now you will be talking in a way that people won't be able to dismiss as "crazy David Ike stuff".

Why do so many deep politics people go out of their way to hand their critics such powerful and easy weapons to use against them?

[slimmouse]

Why do so many deep politics people go out of their way to hand their critics such powerful and easy weapons to use against them?

Probably cos this site is called Rigorous intuition. And probably cos Icke was wandering around the world addressing audiences of 3 or 4 people , before anyone had even got close to understanding how the world really works.

He musta been coining it in then huh ?

Meanwhile-

Talk to me about energy Orz. Im fascinated by your grasp of Physics.

How about Social Anthropology ? How many hours have you spent talking to people who know more than both myself and you have forgotten ?

Remember this site is called "rigorous intuition". Not "I can see it therefore its there". The BBC version of reality.

[philipacentaur]

Philip my Dear,

This site is called rigourous intuition.

Rigorous referring to the left brain , and intuition referring to the right ( as i understand it)

So , combine the left brain, with the right, and tell me in all seriousness that you believe that this world isnt ruled by people with a reptilian mindset.

Once your satisfied that this is the case, then perhaps we can proceed.

There are many clues on this site as to why what Icke is saying may well be the case.

Incidentally, how many weeks have you spent with Credo Mutwa ? Or is he and his knowledge just some stupid old African talking crap for a few bucks ?

What a surprise! Someone reminded me of the name of this web site!

You also use the R-complex in your brain (I can only assume) without even knowing about it. Who named this portion of the brain? Scientists? Bosh! What the fuck would they know? They probably believe the human species evolved without the assistance of advanced, complex extraterrestrial beings. If it weren't for the R-complex, you wouldn't be here right now. Why do you think it's the most developed part of the human brain? Are you saying that the shadowy elite class does not use the rest of their brains? That's ridiculous -- they would not be able to function.

So, what is it? Metaphor or reality?

Clues? Yeah, there are clues all right. Like code words, kind of like the kind of clues or hints you'll find being dropped when newly in the presence of a racist trying to see where you stand on racial issues -- usually in the form of a couple racially offensive words quickly followed by a disingenuous apology. You know -- a couple n-words here or there to loosen things up.

There are a lot of people talking crap for a few bucks, and I don't give a shit where they're from. It would seem that sometimes, the fool becomes the fooled -- Icke and Mutwa, case-in-point.

[slimmouse]

Philip my Dear,

This site is called rigourous intuition.

Rigorous referring to the left brain , and intuition referring to the right ( as i understand it)

So , combine the left brain, with the right, and tell me in all seriousness that you believe that this world isnt ruled by people with a reptilian mindset.

Once your satisfied that this is the case, then perhaps we can proceed.

There are many clues on this site as to why what Icke is saying may well be the case.

Incidentally, how many weeks have you spent with Credo Mutwa ? Or is he and his knowledge just some stupid old African talking crap for a few bucks ?

What a surprise! Someone reminded me of the name of this web site!

You also use the R-complex in your brain (I can only assume) without even knowing about it. Who named this portion of the brain? Scientists? Bosh! What the fuck would they know? They probably believe the human species evolved without the assistance of advanced, complex extraterrestrial beings. If it weren't for the R-complex, you wouldn't be here right now. Why do you think it's the most developed part of the human brain? Are you saying that the shadowy elite class does not use the rest of their brains? That's ridiculous -- they would not be able to function.

So, what is it? Metaphor or reality?

Clues? Yeah, there are clues all right. Like code words, kind of like the kind of clues or hints you'll find being dropped when newly in the presence of a racist trying to see where you stand on racial issues -- usually in the form of a couple racially offensive words quickly followed by a disingenuous apology. You know -- a couple n-words here or there to loosen things up.

There are a lot of people talking crap for a few bucks, and I don't give a shit where they're from. It would seem that sometimes, the fool becomes the fooled -- Icke and Mutwa, case-in-point.

Well thanks for speaking so candidly about how the world is ruled by murderous cold blooded deceptive lying fucks.

What ? You didnt ?

Imagine my shock.

Philip my dear, I asked you a question , just like you did in your opening post. At least extend me a similar courtesy

[philipacentaur]

Oh, this old gambit again...

What was your answer to my question again? I'll simplify it for you.

Icke's reptilians: metaphor or literal reality?

[slimmouse]

Oh, this old gambit again...

What was your answer to my question again? I'll simplify it for you.

Icke's reptilians: metaphor or literal reality?

I cant speak for Icke,

But if you want my honest to the universe opinion.

The latter for sure.

So, now weve got that cleared up, Ive got a question for you

The world is run by a bunch of cold blooded, territorial, deceptive "reptilian" type excuses for humanity ?

[philipacentaur]

Civilization is run by humans, and quite a few of them are more than a little self-serving, cruel and greedy.

[orz]

He musta been coining it in then huh ?

Is this before or after or during his being a professional footballer, published writer and journalist and TV personality?

Origins aside, he is NOW writing trash conspiracy books for mainstream consumption and no doubt doing very nicely off it. We don't need his books or him to explore the same areas, they are much better covered by other more honest/sane writers, or by doing our own research.

Rest of your post seems totally irrelevant to my points above. You're "fascinated by your grasp of Physics." ? Uh... well I'm flattered... I guess?! What is that even supposed to mean?

How many hours have you spent talking to people who know more than both myself and you have forgotten ?

I can't remember.

[orz]

The world is run by a bunch of cold blooded, territorial, deceptive "reptilian" type excuses for humanity ?

But that's not a question.

The latter for sure.

Interesting. What evidence convinced you to take this rather huge leap of logic? Was it the oh-so-convincing scattershot ramblings of a certain tracksuit-wearing pop conspiracy author? Or maybe you watched V on television at a young age and believed it to be a documentary?

[philipacentaur]

Oh, and thanks for the answer to my question, finally. You are delusional.

[slimmouse]

Welcome people to the "trash David Icke thread"


Orz, and Philip,

You guys are a hoot. Seriously.

But, like they say, no publicity is bad publicity.

I learned of an old saying just recently. Namely , that you shouldnt force your knowledge on others.

I must thank you both, for contextualising that statement.

Moving on..................