Noreen

by **chiggerbit** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:41 pm

There seems to be someone on a message board who is spreading a lot of incorrect information and saying they are direct quotes from me. I have never talked to this person so I do need to post this information to more or less stop this activity...

Jesus, does she mean Masonic Plot?

by **Jeff** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:55 pm

I think that's the implication. I don't think there's anyone else here who's made the claims MP has about contact with Noreen.

FWIW, I learned about Noreen's comment from Eve via email. Eve also said it was MP she was talking about.

by **chiggerbit** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:09 am

Which brings up the question, HTF does Eve know the stuff she knows, ahead of time, especially here in Iowa (thinking of the Pointblank thing--it was her, right?). And who alerted Noreen this week? Eve?

by **chiggerbit** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:22 am

I could be wrong, but am I correct in remembering the MP has said that he is deaf? His recent posts don't exactly rule out that condition, but when he talks about the first Gulf War, etc, it almost seems as if he is implying that he is a veteran of that war. Just wondering. He always seemed like an ok kind of guy.

by **sunny** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:01 am

chiggerbit wrote:
Jesus, does she mean Masonic Plot?

I'll be horribly embarrassed for MP if this is the case, and I expect he will duck out of here and not come back. I can't imagine what would prompt a person to falsely claim a relationship with someone and make up a conversation with them-it is not kosher and shouldn't be tolerated when it comes to light, but geez I hope we can work out a way for MP to do penance and not have to lose him permanently. It's clear he's a person in dire need of a compassionate community.

by **Jeff** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:06 am

chiggerbit wrote:Which brings up the question, HTF does Eve know the stuff she knows, ahead of time, especially here in Iowa (thinking of the Pointblank thing--it was her, right?). And who alerted Noreen this week? Eve?

Exactly. I've even entertained the possibility that Eve IS Masonic Plot. And before this, too. I just don't believe anyone who claims some Gosch insider status.

by **sunny** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:24 am

Jeff wrote:Exactly. I've even entertained the possibility that Eve IS Masonic Plot. And before this, too. I just don't believe anyone who claims some Gosch insider status.

Wow, what made you think that before now? And why would MP, as Eve, out himself to Noreen? If this is what happened, he's worse off than I thought.

It never crossed my mind that MP might be lying-it's just too easy for Noreen to get word of such claims, as we have seen. Surely Noreen has been aware of RI before now, considering how often we have discussed the case.

by **Jeff** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:41 am

sunny wrote:Wow, what made you think that before now? And why would MP, as Eve, out himself to Noreen? If this is what happened, he's worse off than I thought.

Just something that I've kept in the back of my mind observing his posts. When he started posting he seemed to have a different voice and views, which were then fine-tuned to mirror and sometimes exaggerate what he thought were my own. He's always been very flattering to me, and I never trust that. Something about his sig line, too:

"The above post is intended for entertainment purposes only and in no way reflects the opinions of the flesh and blood person writing the text. All writings under the screen name "MASONIC PLOT" are merely a characterization of this created persona."

Anyway, I don't where to go from here with this. Haven't heard from him yet, or Noreen.

by **Jeff** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:44 pm

MP's posted:

Whoaaa now wait a minute here. I have NEVER in my entire time online said ANYTHING badly about Mrs. Gosch, nor will I EVER.

I used to be on a yahoo msg board a long while ago there was a person there was seemed to imply to me that they were Noreen so occasionaly I write them e mails and talk to them. That is the extent of it, if this person I have spoken to isnt Noreen then PLEASE understand, there is no ill intent on my part.

I welcome the real Noreen here among us, I am honored!

by **chiggerbit** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:14 pm

Hell, maybe he's Jeff Gannon. :lol:

MP's statement was a nice wiggle, but I doubt it was enough to get him out of that tight spot with most members. Did someone save the page just before the one with that statement of his? It kind of puts the lie to his wiggle.

I was just kidding when I said to grab that guy's ip on that one thread, it couldn't be our MP, but it was kind of weird how he started using the buzz words of the Freeper-types, like "lover of freedom" or whatever it was he said. It was a bit like seeing one of the alters of a DID person.

by **chiggerbit** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 11:10 pm

that one thread

wasn't the Gosch thread.

by **chiggerbit** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 11:13 pm

Editing link out, replacing with this from MP's ip:

[ Look up IP address ]

Users posting from this IP address
MASONIC PLOT [ 1637 Posts ]

starviego [ 21 Posts ]

Occult Means Hidden [ 1 Post ]

ShinShinKid [ 1 Post ]

by **Jeff** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:41 am

I'm getting an "Invalid_session" general error message when I click on that link.

I've written Noreen, asking for more info to help know how to proceed.

by **Jeff** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:53 pm

MASONIC PLOT requested that his account be closed.

by **sunny** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:28 pm

FWIW, this may not be significant or even true, but stoneonstone might be Masonic Plot.

Masonic Plot contacted me by e-mail sometime last year when Noreen's name came up here on the board, saying he knew her, she was a wonderful person, etc etc. He wrote and im'd me a couple of times after that, nothing important, just chit-chat. But the interesting thing is his e-mail adress is 'stonemasonry @ aol'.

Just thought you'd like to know.

Noreen

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