New photo up on The Johnny Gosch Foundation site

[shefner]

I don't know guys....I think DeCamp did implicate the Catholic Church, particularly Boys Town, in "The Conspiracy of Silence" video.
After all we've seen involving the Catholic Church and child sexual abuse, we can safely assume there is a hierarchy of protection in place.

[Searcher08]

There was quite a big section in CoS about Boy's Town - definitely would *not* say DeCamp viewed the Catholic Church involvement as peripheral.

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Wonder whether the main role of the Church may actually have been procurement and distribution rather than just being the source of "islands" of abuse. Given as the ABC report said, the Church has a huge need for young men to go into the priesthood and that pedophiles often seem to have a great facility at relating to young people, then hey, if the pedophile priests just happen to "sample" the boys en-route to delivering them to the seminary, what's the big deal, thinks the Church? - just keep 'em coming our way....

[OP ED]

There was quite a big section in CoS about Boy's Town - definitely would *not* say DeCamp viewed the Catholic Church involvement as peripheral.

<speculation>
Wonder whether the main role of the Church may actually have been procurement and distribution rather than just being the source of "islands" of abuse. Given as the ABC report said, the Church has a huge need for young men to go into the priesthood and that pedophiles often seem to have a great facility at relating to young people, then hey, if the pedophile priests just happen to "sample" the boys en-route to delivering them to the seminary, what's the big deal, thinks the Church? - just keep 'em coming our way....

I think your speculation may be correct in some sense. Although I'm loathe to use the word "church" to describe the interests of what I feel is likely a very small minority, even given the possible extensive coverup networking. To me its like saying "america did 911" or something of the sort. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to gatekeep, just saying.

[chiggerbit]

and that pedophiles often seem to have a great facility at relating to young people

It makes me wonder, Searcher, if it isn't more than that. Could it be that the act of sexually abusing boys is what brings those boys into the priesthood? By "imprinting" pedophilia on some of them, would some victims come to look on the priesthood as a huge self-perpetuating "stable" for sexual gratification?

[Et in Arcadia ego]

and that pedophiles often seem to have a great facility at relating to young people

It makes me wonder, Searcher, if it isn't more than that. Could it be that the act of sexually abusing boys is what brings those boys into the priesthood? By "imprinting" pedophilia on some of them, would some victims come to look on the priesthood as a huge self-perpetuating "stable" for sexual gratification?

here, here!

Other cycles of abuse are perpetuated through a family's generations, why shouldn't a cycle of abuse as a form of initiation exist in the Church?

[brainpanhandler]

and that pedophiles often seem to have a great facility at relating to young people

It makes me wonder, Searcher, if it isn't more than that. Could it be that the act of sexually abusing boys is what brings those boys into the priesthood? By "imprinting" pedophilia on some of them, would some victims come to look on the priesthood as a huge self-perpetuating "stable" for sexual gratification?

I think that seems very likely, although I would add that sexual imprinting involves all the periphenalia of the experience. I might even go a bit further and conjecture if there is something about the Catholicism in general that makes it a fertile breeding ground for pedophiles, I mean other than the fact that there is a ready made population of boys and girls left within the church's care (this is no doubt not so true anymore I would think). The something in general I am referring to is the schism that catholicism drives between the body and the mind. Perverts, pedophiles, those with fetishes... these aberrations are produced within a sexually repressive culture.

[brainpanhandler]

here, here!

It's hear, hear.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hear_hear

[shefner]

here, here!

It's hear, hear.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hear_hear

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Oops brainpanhandler, but I'm not getting a good link with this....

[shefner]

OK got it now.....thanks for the edit!

[chiggerbit]

I just watched the Conspiracy of Silence video again, and I have to say the "the Church" and Boys Town barely registered.

[shefner]

If you google Monsignor Robert Hupp and John DeCamp, you will get some sites that show DeCamp's push to expose the Catholic Church, namely the Boys Town organization, in its role of sexual abuse. Mons. Hupp asked DeCamp to help him to tell the full story, as he knew it, of what he had discovered at Boys Town.

In the early days of these priests/sexual abuse cases, the public was disbelieving. Many of these cases were thrown out of court....
It took a great deal of courage for Hupp to come forward (even if he was a very old man by then) and also for DeCamp to make these revelations concerning Boys Town....

[chiggerbit]

Ok, shefner, I took your advice to the letter, " Monsignor Robert Hupp and John DeCamp" and and got this:

http://www.spirituallysmart.com/decamp.html

[rbeck]

chiggerbit wrote:
One problem I've had for a long time with DeCamp's version of the Franklin scandal has been what seemed to me like a deliberate re-direction of attention away from the Church's role in that scandal.

Jeff the admin wrote:
I think that's a great observation. He seems inclined to treat the Boy's Town/priestly aspects of the case more as a matter of "a few bad apples," rather than as a systematic/institutional issue.

Senator Decamp knows fully well the systematic abuse in the Roman Catholic Church and does NOT take it lightly or try to help the perpetrators. John has traveled to the Vatican and met with Cardinal Ratzinger(Pope Benedict) to discuss this issue and get them to do something. the Cardinal encouraged John to keep up his work in exposing pedophilia in the RC church in America.
ps. not many people know this but John was also a victim of sexual abuse growing up in orphanages in Minnesota as a child. hes not trying to do what you claim in covering it up He should be commended for his work.

[shefner]

Keep looking because there are many sites other than this one and you know it.....I've googled it myself and know what I've found.

John DeCamp has been exposing the sex abuse/Boys Town connection for quite a long time.

[chiggerbit]

ps. not many people know this but John was also a victim of sexual abuse growing up in orphanages in Minnesota as a child

I thought he said he had been at Boys Town. Care to elaborate on that Minnesota claim? Not that I will disbelieve it.