New photo up on The Johnny Gosch Foundation site

[rbeck]

Ok, shefner, I took your advice to the letter, " Monsignor Robert Hupp and John DeCamp" and and got this:

http://www.spirituallysmart.com/decamp.html

This website owner of "spirituallysmart" (which he isnt )should be ignored . He is the most paranoid moron i have every seen He is venomously anti catholic and anti christian and holds on to the silly myth that the Jesuit order and the Vatican controls the world and are devil worshipers and is out to get everyone. I have been reading and monitoring his giberish for awhile now and his bias is increadible please no one should take him seriously. I am not surprised now that he thinks John Decamp and Ted Gunderson are incahoots with the Vatican what a laugh. He no doubt is a follower of the blasphemous fictional fairy tale movie "the davinci code " .what a fool one should feel sorry for him.

[chiggerbit]

But the "orphange in Minnesota?" You might be surprised--I may actually believe you.

[rbeck]

ps. not many people know this but John was also a victim of sexual abuse growing up in orphanages in Minnesota as a child

I thought he said he had been at Boys Town. Care to elaborate on that Minnesota claim? Not that I will disbelieve it.

Its not just a claim my friend John himself said it in an interview years ago. Noreen Gosch even mentioned John was sexually abused as a child during her interview with Alex Meklinger in March 2005. John stated that as a child till his teenage years before going to Vietnam he jumped from orphanage to orphanage one of the places he was at breifly was Boys town He mentioned he was abused while in Minnesota

[chiggerbit]

Location in Minnesota?

[shefner]

Sorry that I don't know more about the early history of John DeCamp, although I've read his book. I can say this: rbeck knows his stuff and he will either verify what he has stated or will admit his error. He is completely trustworthy and extremely knowledgable....

chiggerbit, were you ever a member of the now defunct "franklinfiles.org?"

[chiggerbit]

No, not sure what they are. But I am somewhat familiar with Minnesota.

[chiggerbit]

And Iowa.

[shefner]

"franklinfiles.org" was the number one blog site to discuss the Franklin Scandal as well as Johnny Gosch and others (Paul Bonacci, Jimmy Gibson, etc). The site was heavily trafficked and membership was growing quickly each day. It was the site where I met rbeck. Shortly after he revealed the new workplace of Larry King, the site was hacked and has not returned. This was August 2007. I had severe withdrawals and have hunted a place to discuss these matters ever since. Alas, here I am!

A few months before the hacking, our space had an unusual visitor who told us he was Jimmy Gibson. He did have some insider information but most of us sincerely doubted he was who he said. He was "in the know" about all things technological....perhaps he hacked our site?[/u]

[shefner]

I also wanted to add that several members of franklinfiles.org felt we were being "lurked" by some of those involved in the scandal. More than one felt certain that a poster there was actually Robert Wadman. It was amazing then that Noreen removed Ted Gunderson's Report from her site at the same time that franklinfiles.org went down. She claimed that out of nowhere she had gotten a call from a person claiming to be Wadman, demanding that she remove the report or get sued. She must have taken his threat seriously because she removed it.

I always thought the timing of that call was odd....

[chiggerbit]

It was amazing then that Noreen removed Ted Gunderson's Report from her site.....

No kidding? She just shot up in my estimation.

[shefner]

It was amazing then that Noreen removed Ted Gunderson's Report from her site.....

No kidding? She just shot up in my estimation.

Yep, go to JohnnyGosch.com and look under the Ted Gunderson Report column. You'll get her explanation there.

I'm not sure that TG has not become more extremist in these last few years... I thought this early report made total sense. But in more recent years, some of his comments and ideas are "off the charts." His connection to Cathy O'Brien, etc., is so strange....I guess I mean that she seems strange. And that crazy Mark Phillips too. Sorry but they set off my hinky meter!

I wanted to ask rbeck what he thinks about "Trance-formation of America." The you-tube videos are a bit creepy, IMO. Could all of that be real?

[chiggerbit]

Sorry, but Gunderson is such a caricature that I can't believe anyone takes him seriously.

[chiggerbit]

Gunderson is part of the reason I have for not taking DeCamp seriously.

[timetunneler]

Keep looking because there are many sites other than this one and you know it.....I've googled it myself and know what I've found.

John DeCamp has been exposing the sex abuse/Boys Town connection for quite a long time.

So who has some theories on whether or not these kidnapping rings are being used to blackmail politicians into playing along with the Nazi takeover of the U.S.? Prostitution rings, blackmail, Craig Spence, the 1989 Washington Times article of call boys going into the white house. Call-Manboy Jeff Gannon, Gannon in the white house, Gannon's ties to Gosch... I've always thought that these things were probably in part set up and protected in order to entrap people into playing along with the Big Dogs at the top.

[timetunneler]

Gunderson is part of the reason I have for not taking DeCamp seriously.

That and the links to Rense. How do you not expect people to take your site for Infotainment when it links to Rense.