1983 Playboy interview with L Ron Hubbard Jr begs the question: is there an even darker side to Scientology thats beneath the surface?
http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews ... w-1983.htm
The well known accounts of L Ron Hubbard and the history of Scientology seems weird enough:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L_Ron_Hubb ... activities
After the war, Hubbard met Jack Parsons, an aeronautics professor at Caltech and an associate of the British occultist Aleister Crowley.[51] Hubbard and Parsons were allegedly engaged in the practice of ritual magick in 1946, including an extended set of sex magic rituals called the Babalon Working, intended to summon a goddess or "moonchild." The Church says Hubbard was working as an ONI agent on a mission to end Parsons' supposed magical activities and to "rescue" a girl Parsons was "using" for supposedly magical purposes. In a 1952 lecture series, Hubbard recommended a book of Crowley's and referred to him as "Mad Old Boy"[52][53] and as "my very good friend".[54] Hubbard later married the girl he said that he rescued from Parsons, Sara Northrup.[55] Hubbard also described Parsons as his friend in his Scientology lectures rather than a person he was investigating. Crowley recorded in his notes that he considered Hubbard a "lout" who made off with Parsons' money and girlfriend in an "ordinary confidence trick."[14][12]
Sara Northrup became Hubbard's second wife in August 1946.[56] It was an act of bigamy, as Hubbard had abandoned, but not divorced, his first wife and children as soon as he left the Navy (he divorced his first wife more than a year after he had remarried).[12] Both women allege Hubbard physically abused them. He is also alleged to have once kidnapped Sara's infant, Alexis, taking her to Cuba. Later, he disowned Alexis, claiming he was not her father and that she was actually Jack Parsons' child.[57] Sara filed for divorce in late 1950, citing that Hubbard was, unknown to her, still legally bound to his first wife at the time of their marriage. Her divorce papers also accused Hubbard of kidnapping their baby daughter Alexis, and of conducting "systematic torture, beatings, strangulations and scientific torture experiments."[58][59]
But back to that Penthouse interview...
L Ron Jr says that L Ron Hubbard became obsessed with performing abortions on women as part of some sort of occult science. He said L Ron's dream was to create a human surrogate or "moon child" for a dark spiritual union from the days he worked with Aerojet's Jack Parsons.
He said his fathers obsession of abortion-forced psychotropic drugs, etc
culminated in what he called "soul hacking", breaking someone's soul and consciousness down through acute trauma and drugs to open for possession and mind control
He claims that the core of scientology is pretty much the blackest form of power grabbing mystery religion, just meticulously spread out for a long time.
He goes on to say that often times, in Scientology training women would be locked up for weeks at a time.
He says Scientology has gone to extreme lengths to silence detractors, cooerce and or compromise politicians, etc
He claimed his father L Ron Hubbard Sr and Erroll Flynn enjoyed having sex with young boys and children in Europe
This is what L Ron Jr says of Errol Flynn and the Labor Party of England
He was a double agent for the KGB and for the British intelligence agency. He was also a raging homosexual. He wanted my father to use his black-magic, soul-cracking, brainwashing techniques on young boys. He wanted these boys as his own sexual slaves. He wanted to use my father's techniques to crack people's heads open because he was very influential in and around the British government --plus he was selling information to the Russians. And so was my father.
He claims Scientology infiltrated the highest levels of the British government and intelligence
He claims L Ron wanted to take over the world using scientology and his political connections. He was obsessed, he claims, with destroying peoples lives...not merely having them killed off.
He says Scientology leadership motto is "do what thou wilt" and has had people killed. He says L Ron Sr would severely and savagely beat women and compared L ron and Scientology to Hitler and the SS
He ends the interview with this little nugget behind L Ron and Scientology
The explanation is sort of long and complicated. The basic rationale is that there are some powers in this universe that are pretty strong. As an example, Hitler was involved in the same black magic and the same occult practices that my father was. The identical ones. Which, as I have said, stem clear back to before Egyptian times. It's a very secret thing. Very powerful and very workable and very dangerous. Brainwashing is nothing compared to it. The proper term would be "soul cracking." It's like cracking open the soul, which then opens various doors to the power that exists, the satanic and demonic powers. Simply put, it's like a tunnel or an avenue or a doorway. Pulling that power into yourself through another person --and using women, especially -- is incredibly insidious. It makes Dr. Fu Manchu look like a kindergarten student. It is the ultimate vampirism, the ultimate mind-fuck, instead of going for blood, you're going for their soul. And you take drugs in order to reach that state where you can, quite literally, like a psychic hammer, break their soul, and pull the power through. He designed his Scientology Operating Thetan techniques to do the same thing. But, of course, it takes a couple of hundred hours of auditing and mega-thousands of dollars for the privilege of having your head turned into a glass Humpty Dumpty --shattered into a million pieces. It may sound like incredible gibberish, but it made my father a fortune.
Now to be perfectly fair...
L Ron Hubbard Jr before his death in 1991 recanted a lot of what he said in the 1983 penthouse article
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_DeW ... Hubbard_Sr.
The interview was peppered with a lot of accusations of L Ron claiming to be "Satan" and heavy involvement in "KGB Activities" in the 50's
That almost sounds a bit too John Birch and cliche to sound believeable
So what say you, is there truth to any of this?
Is "Egyptian based black magick" and mindcontroll the basis for scientology?
That theres more than mere simple brainwashing techniques, and Scientology has even infiltrated governments and intelligence agencies?
RI-minds want to know:)
