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Re: I already outed this KH twice in Feb. 2007

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:08 pm

FourthBase wrote:
Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:Beat me to it. The SIBEL EDMONDS documentary is called 'Kill the Messenger.'


Do you know how many times a day on how many separate items of Western culture that the phrase "kill the messenger" has been featured since way, way, way before Edmonds was even born? .....


Look, trash talker.

I already covered this 'Kill the Messenger' hijacking in February 2007.
I exposed two different hijackings of the Edmonds movie:
1>First when the Edmonds movie opened in France-Schou's book was published.
2>Second when the Edmonds movie showed in the US-'Messenger' movie opened.


So BOTH times there were keyword hijacking decoys.

And I've listed the several other movies that are decoys of Sibel's story, too.
Below are the two posts I already did from Feb. 2007 with much work.

ON EDIT: here's my downthread post brought up to explain all the stuff in my 2007 posts-

2005-2007 had 4 Sibel Edmonds keyword hijackings.
2 were specifically because of the documentary about her called 'Kill the Messenger.'
1 of those was Nick Schou's book about Gary Webb with the same title published at the same time her documentary aired in France.
So Schou's book will continue to be used to occlude the still-suppressed Sibel Edmonds documentary movie, now with a movie for wider application than a book.

2005 has two decoy movies of Sibel Edmonds.
1) 'The Translator' which is a plot-hijacking
2) 'Edmond' which is a name-hijacking

2006 has a book title-hijacking just before the Sibel Edmonds documentary movie opens in France.
>September 8 'Kill the Messenger' about Gary Webb by Nick Schou published by evil Nation Books.
>September 19 'Kill the Messenger' documentary movie about Sibel airs in France.

2007 has a movie title-hijacking when the Sibel Edmonds doc. movie is shown in Wash. DC.
>February 3 'Messenger' horror movie by evil Hollywood opens in cineplexes plus evil Yahoo front page features it with a bad review called Kill "The Messenger."
>February 3 'Kill the Messenger' Sibel Edmonds doc. movie has a private showing in Wash. DC for US officials and journos plus a panel discussion.
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...and pop culture is loaded with this pattern of decoys used to upstage hostile information.
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...hope that makes things clearer...
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My two posts from 2007-

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http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?t=10668
HMW Posted: 03 Feb 2007 14:32 Post subject: Keyword hijacking: The Messengers (Sibel Edmonds deflection)
Still don't believe in keyword hijacking in spook-infected mainstream media?

A documentary about Sibel Edmonds, the ex-FBI translator and whisteblower, is being shown in WashDC and it's called 'Kill the Messenger.' It's being screened TODAY with a panel of heavy journalists including James Bamford, Robert Parry, and Kristina Borjesson participating.

Oh, but Yahoo has another movie with the keyword "messenger" on its front page today. Coincidence? I think not.

The keyword-
Here's Sibel Edmonds' official website with news of her documentary showing today--
http://www.justacitizen.com/
KILL THE MESSENGER

A Documentary on State Secrets Privilege & U.S. Whistleblowers
February 3, 2007: Private Screening of ‘Kill the Messenger’ Sponsored by Busboys & Poets


http://nswbc.org/Press%20Advisories/KTM-Advisory.htm
The moderated panel discussion will cover the following topics: the current state of the U.S. Main media, unconstitutional government secrecy, and national security whistleblowers. The panel will include experts on media, secrecy and whistleblowers; below is a list of confirmed panel members:
Mathieu Verboud, Film Director, Kill the Messenger
James Bamford, Author, Investigative Journalist
Robert Parry, Investigative Journalist, Consortium News
Ben Wizner, Attorney, ACLU
Stephen Kohn, attorney, KK&C; Chairman of the Board, National Whistleblower Center
Kristina Borjesson


The hijacking-
Now here's a bad horror movie [b called ]'The Messengers.'[/b]getting featured on the front page of Yahoo on exactly the same day as that other movie screening by the ex-FBI whistleblower. Dang. Will wonders never cease?

Featured: Feb. 3, 2007
Scary message from 'The Messengers'
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Click on the link and you get user reviews panning it
starting off with the post reading "Kill The Messengers." How predictable.

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1808762595/user
The Messengers (2007)

Kill "The Messengers"
by thickbread15 (movies profile) (Feb 2, 2007)
145 of 220 people found this review helpful
Was this movie being serious? I have seen some bad horror films in my time, but this one.... It has pretty much every single horror movie cliche. The creepy kids...
>Full Review


Another 2005 movie starring Nicole Kidman called 'The Interpreter' already plot-hijacked the Sibel Edmonds saga.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0373926/

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Plot Outline: Political intrigue and deception unfold inside the United Nations, where a US Secret Service agent (Penn) is assigned to investigate an interpreter (Kidman) who overhears an assassination plot.


And William Macy was put in a pointless 2005 movie revival of a viciously grim David Mamet play called 'Edmond.' Some folks will watch Macy in anything.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0443496/

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All those movies to keep people from thinking about this one-
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http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?t=10785
HWM Posted: 12 Feb 2007 07:34 Post subject: Oh, Edmonds, not Schou.
Sorry, rdr, there is some keyword hijacking to examine here. An entire title.
There are two 'Kill the Messengers.'

Because I thought this thread was going to be about Nick Schou's book about Gary Webb with the exact same title released by Nation Books a mere eleven days before the French TV premiere of the Sibel Edmonds documentary.

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Compare and contrast. S'il vous plait.
Because, really. What are the odds, exact same title, subject, and even audience and within two weeks?

>Schou's book was published 9/8/06. Old news.
*The Edmonds film was aired 9/19/06. Suppressed news.

>Schou's book is about an 11 year-old scenario involving the USG and drugs long ago handled with PR by the CIA.
*Sibel Edmonds story is current complete with gag orders.

The Nation magazine is of the gate-keeper ilk, no JFK conspiracy, no 9/11 inside job.
Nation Books does publish Scott Ritter's book on Iran. Interesting stuff.
So this publisher is worth examining to see if the level of the gate being kept has been raised to match internet standards.
http://www.nationbooks.org/

Nick Schou does some muckracking at OCWeekly.com.
For instance, he wrote about the Oklahoma City Bombing and Elohim City's possible German agent provocateur but he didn't write about General Partin's expose of bombs in the building. So good pursuit of an old cover-up but not comprehensive.
http://www.ocweekly.com/news/news/bumshell/26588/

Funny old world. Disney song: "It's a Small World After All...."


>1) Schou-
http://www.amazon.com/Kill-Messenger-Crack-Cocaine-Controversy-Journalist/dp/1560259302

Kill the Messenger: How the CIA's Crack-Cocaine Controversy Destroyed Journalist Gary Webb (Paperback)
by Nick Schou

Product Details

* Paperback: 278 pages
* Publisher: Nation Books; 1st edition (September 8, 2006)
* Language: English
* ISBN-10: 1560259302
* ISBN-13: 978-1560259305


*2) Edmonds-
http://justacitizen.org/KillTheMessenger.html


International Press Coverage

* Une femme à abattre (PDF) Le Monde.fr, 17 Septembre 2006
* Le fond du thriller effraie (PDF) LE CANARD enchaîné, 20 Septembre 2006
* Sibel Edmonds: une affaire D' État (PDF) LE FIGARO, 19 Septembre 2006
* Traduction interdite (PDF) Libération, 19 Septembre 2006
* Sibel Edmonds: une affaire D' État (PDF) Télé 7 jours, Du 16 au 22 Septembre 2006
* Brèves télévision: le zapping de la semaine PARIS (AP), September 17, 2006
* A Documentary on State Secrets Privilege & U.S. Whistleblowers NSWBC, September 18, 2006


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Postby FourthBase » Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:21 pm

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Whatever it is you're skipping, Hugh, take it.
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4 Sibel hijackings. 2 are of 'Kill the Messenger'

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:27 pm

FourthBase wrote:....
Whatever it is you're skipping, Hugh, take it.


Guess you're skipping doing the work.
Stick with sports. Your locker room abuse belongs there.

I'll try short attention span theater-

2005-2007 had 4 Sibel Edmonds keyword hijackings.
2 were specifically because of the documentary about her called 'Kill the Messenger.'
1 of those was Nick Schou's book about Gary Webb with the same title published at the same time her documentary aired in France.
So Schou's book will continue to be used to occlude the Sibel Edmonds documentary movie.

2005 has two decoy movies of Sibel Edmonds.
1) 'The Translator' which is a plot-hijacking
2) 'Edmond' which is a name-hijacking

2006 has a book title-hijacking just before the Sibel Edmonds documentary movie opens in France.
>September 8 'Kill the Messenger' about Gary Webb by Nick Schou published by evil Nation Books.
>September 19 'Kill the Messenger' documentary movie about Sibel airs in France.

2007 has a movie title-hijacking when the Sibel Edmonds doc. movie is shown in Wash. DC.
>February 3 'Messenger' horror movie by evil Hollywood opens in cineplexes plus evil Yahoo front page features it with a bad review called Kill "The Messenger."
>February 3 'Kill the Messenger' Sibel Edmonds doc. movie has a private showing in Wash. DC for US officials and journos plus a panel discussion.

.
...and pop culture is loaded with this pattern of decoys used to upstage hostile information.
.
...hope that makes things clearer...
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Postby FourthBase » Fri Apr 04, 2008 12:16 am

It's either one or the other:
Either you're genuinely insane...
Or you're one of those people we're not supposed to call each other.
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Postby 8bitagent » Fri Apr 04, 2008 12:25 am

I hope when my movie comes out in 2010, Hugh doesnt think it's USG Nazi psyop keyword hijacking:)

I have to admit, as much as I love the way Hugh's thinking and humor works(the Horton Hears a Woo bit had me in stitches), attributing every single movie and Fortean news story to keyword hijacking is a bit much.
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Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:18 am

FourthBase wrote:It's either one or the other:
Either you're genuinely insane...
Or you're one of those people we're not supposed to call each other.


Oh, brother. ..you do know who Sibel...nevermind.
Nothing to see here. Everything just as it seems.
Hollywood will show our kids the dangerous truths and the world will be a better place.

I'm sure there's a ballgame to watch, FB.
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Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:27 am

8bitagent wrote:...attributing every single movie and Fortean news story to keyword hijacking is a bit much.


Straw man.
Your continued repeating that the WTC was built by the bin Ladens and describing shootings on the planes..."is a bit much."

I'm showing you things that actually happened and correlating them to a perception management strategy called counterpropaganda meant to minize the effect of hostile information, in this case, the Sibel Edmonds story.

And I'm suggesting that there is a dark cloud to the silver lining of a Gary Webb movie from Universal. Probably several.

I don't post a fraction of the psy-ops campaigns I've found. That would be an endless fulltime job. But I do try to illustrate some of the principle tactics used.
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Postby ninakat » Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:38 am

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:I don't post a fraction of the psy-ops campaigns I've found. That would be an endless fulltime job. But I do try to illustrate some of the principle tactics used.


And I appreciate your postings, Hugh. Keep up the fine work. I think you're onto something more often than not.

And frankly, Fourthbase, you and Hugh obviously have a history, but you're going to have to do a lot better than ridiculing him and suggesting medication. From my perspective, at least Hugh has got the high ground.
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Postby compared2what? » Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:11 am

Jeff wrote:Yeah, I'm cautiously excited about this. Landesman looks like a reasonably decent choice for screenwriter.


Based on the best information currently available to me about how the world works, and without knowing any more about this movie than that it is a Universal Studios production about Gary Webb, scripted by a former contract writer for the Times Magazine, I would put the statistical odds that there is any reason to believe that it will have a net positive outcome for average citizens at so close to zero it's barely worth making the distinction.

It might be a good movie. That's as far as I'm willing to go.
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Postby FourthBase » Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:00 am

Oh, brother. ..you do know who Sibel...nevermind.
Nothing to see here. Everything just as it seems.
Hollywood will show our kids the dangerous truths and the world will be a better place.


Dude....

2006 has a book title-hijacking just before the Sibel Edmonds documentary movie opens in France.
>September 8 'Kill the Messenger' about Gary Webb by Nick Schou published by evil Nation Books.
>September 19 'Kill the Messenger' documentary movie about Sibel airs in France.


What possible real-world consequence would there be if that book about Gary Webb is published 11 days before the Sibel movie is first shown in France? How many people do you suppose would be subliminally affected? The absolute maximum would be 100% of the number of people who had heard/read about the Webb book. And how exactly would the Gary Webb book be negatively predisposing them toward or distracting them from the Sibel movie? Explain that process, and use specifics for this particular example, don't generalize. What goes through the affected's head when the Sibel movie is pre-empted and "upstaged" by a Gary Webb book. Exactly how would that person be less likely to take the Sibel movie seriously after having been "diverted" by the Webb book. Explain away.
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lol

Postby chillin » Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:24 am

It's like you're poking him with a stick. It's obvious that the Webb and Edmonds movies are just trying to hijack this popular(?) Black Metal site

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Probably the radical Christian sect that really controls Hollywood is responsible.
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Postby IanEye » Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:24 am

ninakat wrote:
Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:I don't post a fraction of the psy-ops campaigns I've found. That would be an endless fulltime job. But I do try to illustrate some of the principle tactics used.


And I appreciate your postings, Hugh. Keep up the fine work. I think you're onto something more often than not.

And frankly, Fourthbase, you and Hugh obviously have a history, but you're going to have to do a lot better than ridiculing him and suggesting medication. From my perspective, at least Hugh has got the high ground.



As far as meds go, I think it would be fun to drop Acid with Hugh and go see this double feature:

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it would be more fun than having Hugh tell me that when i saw "Roots" and "I Will Fight No More Forever" in the '70s they were mere decoy/distractions to take my mind off the Holocaust....
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Postby FourthBase » Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:44 am

Also, Hugh, explain how the Webb book/Sibel movie confluence of titles wouldn't instead multiply the word-of-mouth publicity for each. "Hey, Kill the Messenger is coming out this week." "The book about Gary Webb?" "Huh? No, the movie about Sibel Edmonds." "Oh, I hadn't heard about that, I'll have to check it out." Explain how that scenario doesn't also occur. Explain how the kind of person who would care enough about the Webb book to happen upon a review/mention of it and mentally retain its title wouldn't be the same type of person who would almost certainly be sympathetic to Sibel's story.
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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:10 pm

FourthBase wrote:Also, Hugh, explain how the Webb book/Sibel movie confluence of titles wouldn't instead multiply the word-of-mouth publicity for each. "Hey, Kill the Messenger is coming out this week." "The book about Gary Webb?" "Huh? No, the movie about Sibel Edmonds." "Oh, I hadn't heard about that, I'll have to check it out." Explain how that scenario doesn't also occur. Explain how the kind of person who would care enough about the Webb book to happen upon a review/mention of it and mentally retain its title wouldn't be the same type of person who would almost certainly be sympathetic to Sibel's story.


Yeah explan that.


So Schou's book will continue to be used to occlude the still-suppressed Sibel Edmonds documentary movie, now with a movie for wider application than a book.


Kill the Messenger (Sbel Edmunds one) was on prme tme free to ar televson n Australa last year. It wasn't surpressed, and anyone that comes across one might be more inclined to notice the other because of the same name.
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Postby orz » Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:39 pm

Correlation

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causation

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