This Is How I Believe 9/11 Was Carried Out

[tKl]

The title "777" refers to an obscure detail that most would overlook. Same goes for virtually everything in that book!

Since OTO grades its age through the founding of the order, and Thelema grades itself from the reception of Liber AL, it is pointless to use Gregorian calender dates to speculate on occult-government shenanigans... It is an absolutely pointless exercise.

However, if you mark your gematria as a purely personal product, there is no fault.

8bit is a cabbalist! His/her teaching has nothing whatsoever to do with history, but it is a grand and remarkable personal account of history.

All cabbalahs are similar!

[timetunneler]

hi op ed! if no one else has any requests, i'd say maybe start with 9 and 11, if you would?

effulgent thanks in advance!

The numbers in my opinion need to be understood from an astrologicial standpoint. Not seperately as 9 and 11. 11 is the number of days of yearly seperation between a a lunar calendar and a solar calendar. The 9 is imainly mportant because 9 is the month of september. And september (9/11) is the start of the Egyptian/Coptic new year.

see
http://my.opera.com/Merepatra/blog/show.dml/18181

Whatever the true origins of 9/11, it is being framed as a war between arabs and jews/christians. Suns vs. Moons. My personal belief is that 9/11 was masterminded by a multinational secret society involved with occult ritual(like a freemasonic group of some sort). And I agree with 8bit that it is some type of magickal operation. Although Christians, Jews and Muslims are the main actors... it is my personal belief that the perpetrators multinational, elite, involved with things such as the G8, NATO(Brussels Belgium), the Pentagon, anglo /jewish and some arab elites. I say that because you have to look at where the power center is that facilitated 9/11 and made sure all the wheels were greased. Who brought all of the actors together and made sure they could appear to be fulfilling their role as "terrorists." Which countries watched and coddled them.

You also have to look at which groups, agencies have become insanely interested in monitoring people. The rightwing/Zionist/evangelical response of the U.S. government after 9/11 was not to go after Osama, it was to start spying on Americans... to find out who was asking questions and to dig up dirt on its own people.

Back to the numbers, there was a group called Black September which did the Munich bombing in the 70s. So the september connection at least goes back that far. And again like 9/11 and Hamburg we have a triangle of Arabs, Jews and Germany in the Munich case.

The numbers 11 and 22 are astrological. I explained 11 above. As for 22 again it relates to sun and moon. And it is also the approx marker point (cusp) in a month for when the sun crosses into a new sign... the 21st thru 22nd of a month. Washington D.C. for example is full of astrological symbolism like this... the Pentagon itself is 77 feet tall and a plane, flight 77 flew into it. So was that arranged by someone? And on 9/11 two planes fly into two buildings that mark the number 11 in the skyline. One of those planes was flight 11.

For awhile after 9/11 we had that weird string of 7/11, 7/22 etc terrorist attacks that lead me to believe that they were also being done by this group of occultists I believe is out there. Not simply angry arabs off the street. Although i guess it is possible that it is an occult arab group. But the 11/22/77 stuff is more Biblical symbolism as opposed to Arab from what I know.

I am a believer also in synchronicity and sometimes weird things come together out of some deeper ether. But in this case I think the deeper ether is some type of human conspiracy. If I was to profile these guys, the true masters of 9/11 at the top, they would be elites, rich, multi-national, mostly right-wing-pedo-fascists, connected to the militaries of their countries and tied into some secret society like skull and bones, kept secret by something they do in private and then blackmail each other with, and has some masonic, OTO, Jesuit, Kabballah, Sufi or whatever roots and has a knowledge of astrology and the occult.

[8bitagent]

The numbers in my opinion need to be understood from an astrologicial standpoint. Not seperately as 9 and 11. 11 is the number of days of yearly seperation between a a lunar calendar and a solar calendar. The 9 is imainly mportant because 9 is the month of september. And september (9/11) is the start of the Egyptian/Coptic new year.

Absolutely. It's also been hypothesized by some as far back as 1976 that Jesus was born on September 11th.
I remember reading that there was a kind of planetary alignment going on that was very special on 9/11/2001
I believe for the really large, culture changing events, that they are done in according to not just dates...but certain astrological significance.

Whatever the true origins of 9/11, it is being framed as a war between arabs and jews/christians. Suns vs. Moons. My personal belief is that 9/11 was masterminded by a multinational secret society involved with occult ritual(like a freemasonic group of some sort). And I agree with 8bit that it is some type of magickal operation.

Quite clearly, one of the exoteric and immediate intentions of 9/11 was to forment a heightened state of conflict between the Islamic and Christian/Jewish world.

I've also long said that the average 9/11 theory of "Bush, Cheney, neocons, US did 9/11" is as short sighted as those that say 9/11 was merely the work of Osama in a cave. 9/11 to me seems clearly for the benefit of transnational interests...despite covering many countries,
ultimately comes from an occult and borderless corporate interest. On the surface, you can explain Pakistani ISI involvement because of long standing ties to extremists. You can explain Saudi involvement to corporate ties and Wahhabist sympathizers. But then we see the hand of Israel...who also worked with Pakistan, Turkey and the neocons to secretly sell nuclear secrets via AQ Khan to Islamic extremists and "rogue states"(done under then ISI head General Mahmoud Ahmed)

But behind the veil of British, American, Saudi, Qatari, UAE, etc involvement...coursing through the arteries of the global elite, is a very complex belief system that cannot be labeled as some cartoonish "Satanism" as some evangelicals might believe. It draws some esoteric and magickal practices and beliefs from all corners of the ancient world, drawing from Egypt of course...but pulsing through ancient Hindu, Tibet, Qabbalist and up through Hermetic and Solomonic magick.

The intention of 9/11 is quite clear, to reverberate through all levels of consciousness, and effecting both the physical and the spiritual. We cannot look at 9/11 as some one dimensional "Northwoods Part 2" framework.
The imagery, emotions, targets chosen, etc from that day of course being part of it...working on the sub and outer conscious levels.

Although Christians, Jews and Muslims are the main actors... it is my personal belief that the perpetrators multinational, elite, involved with things such as the G8, NATO(Brussels Belgium), the Pentagon, anglo /jewish and some arab elites. I say that because you have to look at where the power center is that facilitated 9/11 and made sure all the wheels were greased. Who brought all of the actors together and made sure they could appear to be fulfilling their role as "terrorists." Which countries watched and coddled them.

Its really hard to say. I really could not give any names if pressed. People like George HW Bush and David Rockefeller have long seemed to be top globalists...but as to where the real operation leads too...aw thats a good question. The trick was to have Islamic jihadists, whove been fully created and funded by the powers that be...actually believe they are the main actors...not realizing they are merely mice being lead through carefully chosen doors in a maze. And the maze used? The post BCCI nexus of
the CIA, Pakistani ISI, Saudi Arabia, Dubai banks, British MI6 and Israel.
Almost all the 9/11 money got channelled through banks in Dubai-UAE.

Back to the numbers, there was a group called Black September which did the Munich bombing in the 70s. So the september connection at least goes back that far. And again like 9/11 and Hamburg we have a triangle of Arabs, Jews and Germany in the Munich case.

Yep, and what are we told is at the heart of 9/11? A terror mastermind named Mohamed Atta from Cairo Egypt, brought to Hamburg Germany from a mysterious elderly couple...where in Hamburg the "plot" begins.
Tuesday, or Tyr, the Mars day...God of War. Were told 9/11 was referred to as "Holy Tuesday". Oh it was a holy tuesday, for someone

The numbers 11 and 22 are astrological. I explained 11 above. As for 22 again it relates to sun and moon. And it is also the approx marker point (cusp) in a month for when the sun crosses into a new sign... the 21st thru 22nd of a month. Washington D.C. for example is full of astrological symbolism like this... the Pentagon itself is 77 feet tall and a plane, flight 77 flew into it. So was that arranged by someone? And on 9/11 two planes fly into two buildings that mark the number 11 in the skyline. One of those planes was flight 11.

11/22 was of course, the JFK assassination. The killing of the king.
Washington DC was as most of us know, laid out in strict accordance(with great care) to sacred geometry and an esoteric knowledge of the stars(particularly to Sirius) The Pentagon itself feels like an homage to Sirius(the Chrysler car company logo for instance, is a Pentagon with Sirius star in the middle)
Heh...how ironic? A 77 foot pentagon begins construction on 9/11/1941...and gets hit by "Flight 77" 60 years to the day later? In the one little wedge that had just been reinforced to withstand a terror bombing? The irony is deafening. The 11 shaped towers being hit by Flight 11, again...ironic. Especially given the spherical Egyptian structure that stood in between the two.

For awhile after 9/11 we had that weird string of 7/11, 7/22 etc terrorist attacks that lead me to believe that they were also being done by this group of occultists I believe is out there. Not simply angry arabs off the street. Although i guess it is possible that it is an occult arab group. But the 11/22/77 stuff is more Biblical symbolism as opposed to Arab from what I know.

9/11 (11 years to the day after bush sr's nwo speech)
3/11 (911 days after 9/11, the 2004 Madrid Spain attacks)
7/11 (2006, confirmed to be the work of pakistani ISI in mumbai india)
7/7 (MI6 masterminded 2005 london attacks)
10/7 (tourist hotels in the Sinai in Egypt in 2004)
4/11 (Algeirian capital attack in 2007)
12/11(Algerian capital attack in late 2007)
11/9 (2005 attack in jordan, mirrors the date "9/11")
7/23 (2005 bombings in Egypt)

Coincidences, Im sure. Plenty more too. It seems the majority of non warzone(ie: outside of afghanistan/iraq/israel or other ongoing war places), Westernized tourist capitals and cities hit by "al Qaeda" in Europe or the middle east fall on an 11 or 7 in the date post 9/11.
To me this shows the work of the occult elite, much like most of the assassinations fall on pattern dates: 11/22, 4/4, 6/6, 3/30
(Look at Princess Diana, smashes into the 13th pillar under a big black pentagram statue, on the 31st of august)

If I was to profile these guys, the true masters of 9/11 at the top, they would be elites, rich, multi-national, mostly right-wing-pedo-fascists, connected to the militaries of their countries and tied into some secret society like skull and bones, kept secret by something they do in private and then blackmail each other with, and has some masonic, OTO, Jesuit, Kabballah, Sufi or whatever roots and has a knowledge of astrology and the occult.

I think it's even more frightening than that...but I agree...the same elites who sacrifice kidnapped children in Belgium mansions are the same types who would be involved in something as grand scale as September 11th..9/11 was just a bigger esoteric sacrifice on a larger scale. To what end? I definately see an Egyptian belief imported into Western elite factor at work. How it goes from the hidden hand of the elite to Pakistani ISI/Saudi/CIA linked willing jihadist dupes, is quite a complex journey of BCCI slush funds and cross country coercion.

[geogeo]

The key is the number 11, which of course is the first of the 'master numbers' -- I still haven't been able to trace the history of that numerological concept sufficiently. The number of the new Aeon in Liber Legis was 11, 5+6, pentagram + hexagram, female plus male, etc. Its number is 'Abrahadabra', which may or may not refer to the UR-God of the Neo-Gnostic New Age, Abraxas/Abrasax; it may be a cute reference to Hill of Abraham...

The use of the number 11 has been quite noticeable since 1904 (w/ its declaration of 11 as the new Aeon), as has the number 9 in reference to secret cabals, gods, and so forth. The Armistice was timed to come into effect on 11/11 apparently to coincide with the beginning of German Carnival season--11:11 AM on 11/11. Where does this come from? Ultimately, the death day of Saint Martin of Tours -- the patron saint of Clovis, the Merovingian king who adopted Christianity, and one of the patron saints of France, now.

Also, there have been such things as Druidic Councils of 11. Furthermore, the phrase "Give us our 11days" is associated with the changeover in Britain from Julian to Gregorian calendar, finally achieved during September in the mid-1700s. The Thelemite Monks of Medmenham (Hellfire Society) were involved to some degree with this, which was probably the greatest calendar controversy in Western history.

Frighteningly enough, the time of 11:11 on December 21, 2012 is the Winter Solstice timed to coincide with that great transformative New Age moment; but Terence McKenna changed his predicted date to coincide with the Mayan date on purpose. I don;t know who's responsible for the 11:11, but I so know that there is a major movement associated with this set of numbers, some of whom rant about 2012, others about 11-11-2011. Of course, they tend to believe that it's all in the sacred geometry of the Cosmos and signals the changeover from dualism to unity. I favor the idea of a cabal of cabalists emerging ultimately from the Judeo-Egyptian milieu of Alexandria--or at least backdating themselves from around 1111 AD. Time will tell -- time, that is absolutely under the control of governments, and protected at the highest levels of secrecy, very much like the confines of space itself.

Control of time, and probably the timing of synchronicities, is one f the overlooked but greatest powers of the despotic form of rule, one that has plagued this world for millennia.

[geogeo]

The key is the number 11, which of course is the first of the 'master numbers' -- I still haven't been able to trace the history of that numerological concept sufficiently. The number of the new Aeon in Liber Legis was 11, 5+6, pentagram + hexagram, female plus male, etc. Its number is 'Abrahadabra', which may or may not refer to the UR-God of the Neo-Gnostic New Age, Abraxas/Abrasax; it may be a cute reference to Hill of Abraham...

The use of the number 11 has been quite noticeable since 1904 (w/ its declaration of 11 as the new Aeon), as has the number 9 in reference to secret cabals, gods, and so forth. The Armistice was timed to come into effect on 11/11 apparently to coincide with the beginning of German Carnival season--11:11 AM on 11/11. Where does this come from? Ultimately, the death day of Saint Martin of Tours -- the patron saint of Clovis, the Merovingian king who adopted Christianity, and one of the patron saints of France, now.

Also, there have been such things as Druidic Councils of 11. Furthermore, the phrase "Give us our 11days" is associated with the changeover in Britain from Julian to Gregorian calendar, finally achieved during September in the mid-1700s. The Thelemite Monks of Medmenham (Hellfire Society) were involved to some degree with this, which was probably the greatest calendar controversy in Western history.

Frighteningly enough, the time of 11:11 on December 21, 2012 is the Winter Solstice timed to coincide with that great transformative New Age moment; but Terence McKenna changed his predicted date to coincide with the Mayan date on purpose. I don;t know who's responsible for the 11:11, but I so know that there is a major movement associated with this set of numbers, some of whom rant about 2012, others about 11-11-2011. Of course, they tend to believe that it's all in the sacred geometry of the Cosmos and signals the changeover from dualism to unity. I favor the idea of a cabal of cabalists emerging ultimately from the Judeo-Egyptian milieu of Alexandria--or at least backdating themselves from around 1111 AD. Time will tell -- time, that is absolutely under the control of governments, and protected at the highest levels of secrecy, very much like the confines of space itself.

Control of time, and probably the timing of synchronicities, is one f the overlooked but greatest powers of the despotic form of rule, one that has plagued this world for millennia.

[geogeo]

The key is the number 11, which of course is the first of the 'master numbers' -- I still haven't been able to trace the history of that numerological concept sufficiently. The number of the new Aeon in Liber Legis was 11, 5+6, pentagram + hexagram, female plus male, etc. Its number is 'Abrahadabra', which may or may not refer to the UR-God of the Neo-Gnostic New Age, Abraxas/Abrasax; it may be a cute reference to Hill of Abraham...

The use of the number 11 has been quite noticeable since 1904 (w/ its declaration of 11 as the new Aeon), as has the number 9 in reference to secret cabals, gods, and so forth. The Armistice was timed to come into effect on 11/11 apparently to coincide with the beginning of German Carnival season--11:11 AM on 11/11. Where does this come from? Ultimately, the death day of Saint Martin of Tours -- the patron saint of Clovis, the Merovingian king who adopted Christianity, and one of the patron saints of France, now.

Also, there have been such things as Druidic Councils of 11. Furthermore, the phrase "Give us our 11days" is associated with the changeover in Britain from Julian to Gregorian calendar, finally achieved during September in the mid-1700s. The Thelemite Monks of Medmenham (Hellfire Society) were involved to some degree with this, which was probably the greatest calendar controversy in Western history.

Frighteningly enough, the time of 11:11 on December 21, 2012 is the Winter Solstice timed to coincide with that great transformative New Age moment; but Terence McKenna changed his predicted date to coincide with the Mayan date on purpose. I don;t know who's responsible for the 11:11, but I so know that there is a major movement associated with this set of numbers, some of whom rant about 2012, others about 11-11-2011. Of course, they tend to believe that it's all in the sacred geometry of the Cosmos and signals the changeover from dualism to unity. I favor the idea of a cabal of cabalists emerging ultimately from the Judeo-Egyptian milieu of Alexandria--or at least backdating themselves from around 1111 AD. Time will tell -- time, that is absolutely under the control of governments, and protected at the highest levels of secrecy, very much like the confines of space itself.

Control of time, and probably the timing of synchronicities, is one f the overlooked but greatest powers of the despotic form of rule, one that has plagued this world for millennia.

[geogeo]

I didn't mean to post thrice. My compu kep telling me it had failed.

I'm the chair of the Institute for the Study and Implementation of Constructive Paranoia.

[IanEye]

Back to the numbers, there was a group called Black September which did the Munich bombing in the 70s. So the september connection at least goes back that far. And again like 9/11 and Hamburg we have a triangle of Arabs, Jews and Germany in the Munich case.
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I am a believer also in synchronicity and sometimes weird things come together out of some deeper ether.

here ya go.....

released in 1996, also an Olympic year.

http://www.muslimgauze.org/press/return(press).html

Boldly named after one of the most notorious Palestinian terrorist organizations, the group which carried out the Israeli Olympic athlete massacre in 1972, September matches its dark black artwork and design with equally doom-laden music (mastered as one track, despite the five separate song titles listed on the back). The title track relies on a slightly more gentle ominousness, with soft string plucking reverberating around the beat, but things start to pick up accordingly with the more aggressive, sharp-edged electronics shading into a tense blend of percussion and energy on "Libya"; after shading away into a more minimal midsection, the track returns at a nervous, quick pace, with drums and drum pads firing off echoes into the mix as drones snake in and out of the song. One particularly gripping section has shards of noise firing off in all directions before settling back into the frazzled energy of the central beat, feeling like a soundtrack to a particularly good chase scene in a movie. "Thugghee" and its accompanying remix keep the unsettled edge up, with sudden drum and electronic pulse intrusions erupting over the main flow of the songs. It's interesting to hear how Bryn Jones' love of dub applies itself in even more creative and different ways than from his productions of some years before, exchanging the slow pace for a fast one and applying Krautrock drone principles. A nicely stretched out, creepy remix of Gun Aramaic's "Opiate and Mullah" wraps up this fine effort.

aka, the sound of a plan being put into action...

[OP ED]

shit. this topic had dropped so far out of range that i had almost forgotten it. blame this on the Thelemic celebrations which I've only recently discontinued participation in. The usual, y'know, drinking goat's blood, talking to a severed cat's head, dancing around a fire [everyone except me], strange drugs in even stranger cupcakes, sex with mystery women, etc etc.

so i should probably get started before sunday, an even more important holiday, celebrating the transformation of nebuchadeznar.

timetunneler is thinking along the right lines insofar as 9 11 go. Though I'd admit that to me, the central "genius" [if you'll spare me to call it that] in these numbers is in the obvious. The best magic tricks are the ones you're seeing with your own eyes. The pre-existing 911 = EMERGENCY meme is now forever burned into the mindseyes of literally hundreds of millions of people, not just Americans even, though they were the "target audience".

The sun/moon post-alchemical analysis of 11 is the most popular current in Western Hermeticism, Thelema included. As I mentioned above, the 11 = 11 system of graded initiation allows its members to use an alternate gemetriac correspondence column to break its numbers down more efficiently.

In Crowley's Tarot, the 11th Trump is LUST. This is of course, the BEAST and SCARLET WOMAN "conjoined" [for one way of putting it), literally a reference to the "sacraficial child" of the Book of the Law. It is a Hieroglyph, in this sense, of ritual itself. [ritual being an egyptian word with post Sumerian roots relating to the phoenix, and (in Sumer) the Lunar "blood" ceremonies of Astarte [and/or her equivalents]. In egypt this was for BAST, the goddess of sex magick specifically, herself a restructured pseudo-anubis, connected with the SOTHIS star [Sirius] since before the Rise of the Isis Mysteries. {this has been speculated to be the origin of the etymological root for "bastard" by the way}

note: none of this is useful to know. matering will only drive you close to instability. this is its purpose of course, but that is probably a topic for another post, if not another thread.

I hope any of this makes sense. The main numbers especially feature layer upon layer of symbol sttuctures in various mythologies of the near east and asia. This before it ever encounters white people.

I'll see if I can dig up some links, as I'd hate to try to source this from my collection of books.

speaking of coincidence/synchronicities...
I found this thread again late last night/early morning today. Meanwhile I had been reading a commentary on Romans 9:11 by Karl Barth and his views regarding posteuropean Christian relations with the near eastern peoples, specifically Jews. if TT is looking for biblical correspondences. {i'm a recovering baptist, meself}

9 is easier. antefeminine 9 [3 times 3], masculinish, on account of its plurality and association with THE HERMIT in taro. and androgynous in the same sense as eleven [3 squared, a five]. I see this numbers importance, at least as pertains to the topic as to be of less interest insofar as the elements of "the ritual" we're discussing are concerned.

Taken together 911 is a heiroglyph of the "great work" itself. This makes the activity the heighth of blasphemy to any REAL freemasons, illuminist or otherwise. See tarot trump 20 [The Aeon] crowley. Also note the self referencing nature, as we've returned to the "sacraficial child" of before. In the actual trump, the child has grown to be crowned King of the Universe, ruling in silence. In that sense this tragedy we discuss so clinically could be consider an abortion attempt.

11 is highly complicated, but I can get to some of that when we discuss 77, probably the most complex of them, and probably the most difficult part of the black magic psy ops to pull off.

Especially considering the "target".

Hitting New York is one thing.

THAT was another entirely. probably with an entirely different audience in mind as well.

11 is suggestive also of the "bowel syndrome" *cough* "secrets" of the OTO. And while I could get sued for publishing them, I'm not certain it should be neccessary as they're mostly well known, even before Crowley's time [though he lived in puritan times] and can be easily demonstrated.




I'm sure with a little time in the gutter, anyone can piece their sex magick techniques together without anyone getting a "cease and desist" order.

the rituals themselves are irrelevant. if the perpetrators themselves properly understood them [the nature of the alchemical symbols embedded in the numbers], they certainly wouldn't have participated in something so degenerative and obscene.

The relate in symbolism only backwards again to Horus and his weekend proclivities.

Imagine controlled demolition of the Capstone of the Pyramid. another "killing of the king" so to speak.

the sun/moon symbolism seems to have quietly revealed itself in the original plans for the "flight 93 memorial" and its Crescent.

93 is easy. I'll do it next.

[lunarose]

hullo op ed.

'11 is suggestive also of the "bowel syndrome" *cough* "secrets" of the OTO. And while I could get sued for publishing them, I'm not certain it should be neccessary as they're mostly well known, even before Crowley's time [though he lived in puritan times] and can be easily demonstrated.'

NOW i get it! (duh) as far as the attacks on the twin towers, people kept saying "the phallic planes plunging in to the feminine towers" or the like, and i was always "i don't' know, it looks like a a bunch of dicks to me...." (scratching head - even though i myself had heard of those 'secrets' many times)

[lunarose]

hullo again.

'note: none of this is useful to know. matering will only drive you close to instability. this is its purpose of course, but that is probably a topic for another post, if not another thread.' (my italics)

hhmmm......looks to me like it could be extremely important, possibly the point. create instability, then be there with the solution to create stability (which is the oppression you couldn't have got people to agree to other wise.)

this is the first take on 9/11 as a ritual that has given me real insight as to the the ritual aspect and how it might have been embedded to support the material gains wished for. thank you.

(edited for sloppy fingers)

[timetunneler]

When it comes to the "magickal" theory of 9/11, I tend to believe that the 9/11 perps are members of different secrets societies and keep their secrets the way members of skull and bones kept their secrets... by doing something objectionable that keeps them blackmailed. I also believe that 9/11 was intended to be a magical trick, a sleight of hand type operation where planes hit buildings supposedly by 19 hijackers and then the planes comes cleanly down... meanwhile things like possible remote control of airplanes and controlled demolition are covered up and kept out of main stream discussion while bullshit theories like holograms are used as straw men.

But the overall crazy ass beliefs of black magicians of the Crowley, OTO orientation, if that is what is behind 9/11... i don't care about their magickal theories because they are nonsense. Delusional. I don't believe those types even have their shit together enough to pull off 9/11.

Magickal theories coming from the likes of Crowley, OTO, Parsons, Hubbard and all the rest are ridiculous corruptions of earlier secrets that people were attempting to pass down. Astronomical secrets all boil down to sex gags with the modern black magicians. But the real purpose of these secrets is to realign the microcosm with the macrocosm so that the two can be in harmony again.

The secrets are coming down through history roughly something like this:
Sumeria->Egypt->Babylon/Israel->Greek/Roman Mysteries->Gnosticism->Catholic Church Masonry and Architecture->Alchemy->Free Masons->1800s Magick Practice

Now that is not a hard line of passage of these secrets. More chronological. But what is going on in all time periods is basically the same... An authoritarian group or empire encodes a secret into their establishment in order to centralized knowledge, control, and power in the elite and to remove it from the masses. And then over time the secret gets leaked out so that an underdog decodes it steals it, and then re-ecodes the secret for their own people.. and often time it is re-encoded in plain view(Bible astrology, church masonry, alchemical symbolism)... it is just a matter of having open eyes to see an hear what is being revealed. Why is the secret always re-encoded? My theory is that it is to keep the undisciplined on a quest to find discipline on their own. In the Tarot(developed during the time of the Catholic church) it is represented as the Sphinx ruling over those "without rule."

Anyone who attempts to look into this stuff is going to run smack into the core of what this is all about. SYNCHRONICITY. The alignment of the microcosm with the macrocosm. For those of you completely unfamiliar with this concept. You should go buy and read a book on synchronicity and read it. The Holographic Universe is a good place to start. Don't believe everything you read in it though.

One problem I have when I look at events in the world is trying to figure out what is synchronicity(coincidence we are not consciously in control of) and what is conspiracy(coincidence that was planned by people). The numbers 22 and 11 and 93 have all played some strange parts in my life personally.... I didn't have control over the dates that came into my life, the synchronistic birthdates of people I was close to, etc. but there they were. High Weirdness I can't explain. So when I look at events in the world and see that JFK died on 11/22 I have to wonder... but then I look back at dates in my life, coincidences and have to wonder. And I realize that some of the things that we are doing in our lives and stumbling into unconsciously are part of something grinding away up in higher levels of the universe... i still think these dates are being consciously manipulated... but I keep an open mind based on my own experience with synchronicity.

But the key I realized thats triggers synchronicity is this: a rapid shift of consciousness. Things that cause a rapid shift in conscious cause synchronicities to start appearing before and after the event.

Having said this, I would expect that like in my life, Christians going through a rapid change of consciousness out of Christianity will start to experience coincidences re: the numbers 11,22, 33, 37, 66, 77, 666 because they are all astronomical numbers imbedded in the Bible. And when that starts to register in your consciousness, don't be surprised if you start to see synchronicity around you as the "Universe" attempts to alter your consciousness by pointing out why these numbers were hidden from you in the first place.

TO CONTROL YOU

Now me personally, I have learned not to be too bitter about my past Bible experience. I have a complex view of the Bible.. a bitter sweet view of it. Truth and lie in one book. But like any new born baby I was in need of a little bit of restraint. That after all is why we have a parent, to protect us and teach us how to safely enter the world.

Ok, enough rambling.

Peace.

[8bitagent]

Taken together 911 is a heiroglyph of the "great work" itself. This makes the activity the heighth of blasphemy to any REAL freemasons, illuminist or otherwise. See tarot trump 20 [The Aeon] crowley. Also note the self referencing nature, as we've returned to the "sacraficial child" of before. In the actual trump, the child has grown to be crowned King of the Universe, ruling in silence. In that sense this tragedy we discuss so clinically could be consider an abortion attempt.

11 is highly complicated, but I can get to some of that when we discuss 77, probably the most complex of them, and probably the most difficult part of the black magic psy ops to pull off.

Especially considering the "target".

Hitting New York is one thing.

THAT was another entirely. probably with an entirely different audience in mind as well.

11 is suggestive also of the "bowel syndrome" *cough* "secrets" of the OTO. And while I could get sued for publishing them, I'm not certain it should be neccessary as they're mostly well known, even before Crowley's time [though he lived in puritan times] and can be easily demonstrated.

I'm sure with a little time in the gutter, anyone can piece their sex magick techniques together without anyone getting a "cease and desist" order.

the rituals themselves are irrelevant. if the perpetrators themselves properly understood them [the nature of the alchemical symbols embedded in the numbers], they certainly wouldn't have participated in something so degenerative and obscene.

The relate in symbolism only backwards again to Horus and his weekend proclivities.

Imagine controlled demolition of the Capstone of the Pyramid. another "killing of the king" so to speak.

EXCELLENT summary. Again, I find it extremely important for to denote a difference betwen a hypothesis of "elites" misusing/bastardizing/mixing
Egyptian, OTO, Crowleyian, Hermetic, Qabbalist, Astrology, etc ritual and beliefs into massive trauma inducing events(like say 9/11) *and*
saying oh this or that occult based group is bad.

I fully believe there was an occult backbone to the location/date/manner
of the 9/11, Princess Diana and JFK assassination events. It appears these events are done in or right next to very symbolic structures or places that dovetail with specific numeric dates and procedure.
9/11 is quite a blasphemy indeed, yet I do find it a brilliant work...the idea of the "heiroglyph" is intriguing too.

I have to ask, do you find significance to 175? The Book of the Law attributes this number to the power of Venus, but is there a deeper meaning? I just find the use of the 11, 77, 93 numbers to be more calling card than coincidental.

The collapse of the towers, the phallic shape of the planes and the numbering, the esoteric and numeric value to the towers/Pentagon, etc.
It definately feels all part of a more esoteric agenda than mere angry Muslim fanatics or Cheney in a bunker.

[8bitagent]

hullo again.

'note: none of this is useful to know. matering will only drive you close to instability. this is its purpose of course, but that is probably a topic for another post, if not another thread.' (my italics)

hhmmm......looks to me like it could be extremely important, possibly the point. create instability, then be there with the solution to create stability (which is the oppression you couldn't have got people to agree to other wise.)

this is the first take on 9/11 as a ritual that has given me real insight as to the the ritual aspect and how it might have been embedded to support the material gains wished for. thank you.

(edited for sloppy fingers)

I dont want to put words in his mouth, but I think he may mean it's like "staring into the abyss"...a riddle better left unsolved?

Personally, I've seen so much insidious darkness sprout from the 9/11 attacks...be it worldwide oppression by Wahhabist governments in bed with the Western powers(US, UK, etc) as well as just endless death and confusion...I would not be surprised if there was a truly Fortean element to the 9/11 attacks.

You always hear about Bush, or these Islamic militants saying "God" is whispering in their ear. If there truly are almond shaped eye'd entities, hellspawn creatures made of tongues, UFOs, etc... if these are the sort of "Egyptian" Gods the elite are praying to, conducting mass death to(9/11?)
then I would not be surprised if there is the hand of non human intelligence behind the global elite power structure.

(alleged World Trade Center South Tower engineer and avant garde painter Paul Laffoley has stated he believes the ultimate masterminds of 9/11 is "Gamaliel - the obscene; Tzalalimoron - the Clanger; and Bahimoron - the Bestial")
http://www.paranoiamagazine.com/gaudihotel.html

Its scary to think, but what if the very creation of the Twin Towers and the Pentagon were meant to be used in this ghastly event we call "September 11th?"

I think of it as more of a mandala of a very complex system...at a very basic level, its the same story of an elite who believe their possession of esoteric knowledge allows them to control the population and conduct mass human sacrifice(see the movie "Apocalypto")

9/11 has done very well to forment the Abrahamic faiths into a clash of civilizations

The following images are laughed at...but hey, I believe in crazier things:

[lunarose]

hi 8bit.

'If there truly are almond shaped eye'd entities, hellspawn creatures made of tongues, UFOs, etc... if these are the sort of "Egyptian" Gods the elite are praying to, conducting mass death to(9/11?)
then I would not be surprised if there is the hand of non human intelligence behind the global elite power structure.

(alleged World Trade Center South Tower engineer and avant garde painter Paul Laffoley has stated he believes the ultimate masterminds of 9/11 is "Gamaliel - the obscene; Tzalalimoron - the Clanger; and Bahimoron - the Bestial") '

those are all the elements that are formed of, linked to, instability. if 9/11 was a ritual invoking the entities mentioned by op ed above, then their 'relations' would be evoked or manifested. that's what i was trying to get at. there are certain elements of the qabbalah, as i understand it, that result from the time of imbalance between 'good' and 'evil' in the process of emanation. the time of instability. this concept may be linked to the energy system that was attempted in this ritual.