This Is How I Believe 9/11 Was Carried Out

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Postby OP ED » Fri May 02, 2008 1:57 am

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Looks like I killed it.
Oh well. I've come this far, may as well finish rambling the numbers a bit yet. hate to stop now.

lemme see, 77, 93, 175...11...9...

I'm also still curious as to whether anyone else has any sense of the rather more esoteric targets [the planned results of the operation in question] and how far off base they make mine seem...

I tend to look at it as an assualt on the currents themselves. on the celestial watchtowers.

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Postby OP ED » Fri May 02, 2008 3:09 am

I'm gonna dump some images here, that will be explained at a later point. just cause they happen to be sitting in front of my face right now.

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and another (known as "mark of the beast" maybe you've heard of it...?)

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(what does that last little picture remind you of? bottom right?)


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Postby Crow » Fri May 02, 2008 10:12 pm

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Postby 8bitagent » Sat May 03, 2008 8:24 am

OP ED wrote:What do I FEEL about the ritual itself, as we're discussing it, you mean?

Blasphemy on all levels. Human sacrafice. Likely related to the concepts surrounding the "currents" and the Enochian realm of things. Donald Tyson, a white lighter wanker, would've probably called it an Apocalypse working, in its relations to the "Watchtowers" and Sirius.


I couldn't agree more. I think if you had an AI super computer that had all the world's history of the exo and esoteric, it may reach the same conclusion. The use of Twin Pilars and the Pentagon is quite key, very few people I think have looked at the esoteric symbolism of both the targets.

The famous Chrysler logo is a Pentagon with the Sirius star.

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Matthew Barney, the avant garde filmmaker and artist in his Cremaster Cycle series, went further and incorporated this into the 33rd degree "Ordo Ab Chao" Masonic logo

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We find the same symbolic structure on Mars, in Cedonia
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Another take on the Pentagon is of course the Masonic order of the Eastern Star

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The symbolism of the Twin Towers is obvious. Some say the Tower card,
the Solomon Jachin and Boaz pilars, Atlus, duality, etc.

Let us examine the middle of the Towers...

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the last square is a birds eye view of the "sphere" in between the twin towers
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It was created in Bavaria, commissioned by David Rockefeller(the creator of the World Trade Center)


OP ED wrote:For the record, I tend to regard the Sirius connection as slightly overemphasized by the Grant [typhonian] thelemites, who I view as being, at best, misguided [LITERALLY].

on every level, primarily on the subconscious psychological level, I regard the ritual as an attempt to steal the current. To "abort" the birth of the [second phase] Thelemic Aeon. A Black Brotherhood operation to destabilize [Jeff almost always uses "platforming"] the collective unconscious. Probably of the whole world. Inducing stagnation. Hampering cosmic evolution. Tinfoil hats and party favors for everyone!


You know, that is the perfect word...the Black Brotherhood. So many times there's this foolhardy haphazard slip of "illuminati". These people
if we can call them that, seem to steal from such a divergent array of esoteric diciplines both East and West, that I cannot entertain the idea of them having an actual name. God, I'd hate to imagine what their "black lodge" is...Belgium countryside perhaps? I would say that Egyptian mystery is one of the larger strains running the "black brotherhood" and the 9/11 ritual. I believe it was meant to change both the conscious, subconscious, physical and spiritual world.


OP ED wrote:I also think they made a colossal mistake. But that is for later. Suffice for now to repeat an eariler assertion of mine: If these people actually TRULY understood the concepts of Illumination, if they understood the principles we're discussing, they would never have considered something like this. And not just because it is a horrible thing to do to SOMEONE ELSE.

I'd like to treat 77 seperately in a future post, as it was probably one of Crow's favorites. The entire Book of Lies is based around it, and properly understood, it gives an explanation for how he understood his system to work and its relation to the history of the world.


They obviously understood how mass trauma on such a theatrical level, playing on such strong shapes(towers, pentagon), with repetition and phallic symbolism mixed with just the sheer horror and screams of it all
could have such a massive effect. If the date was chosen due to both the numbers of 9 and 11, due to 2001 being the new millennium, and due to a certain celestial or planetary alignment(as well as possibly a tiein to the Egyptian Coptic Calendar) then this could point to the 9/11 ritual(or working) being in the works for quite a very long time.

How 15 Saudis, a Jordanian, Egyptian, Yemenese and Lebanese came to be the alleged homoculus in four doomed phallic vessels is part of the mystery. However, if the black brotherhood also operates in the Arab and Muslim world along with world intelligence agencies, corporations and criminal underworlds...such does not seem so hard to imagine.


OP ED wrote:11/22 could certainly have occult overtones, though, in my mind at least, they seem less obvious than the repeated weighted numbers in the 911 ritual. The KING was very much at the center of that operation, and the numbers seem to have had only peripheral value. Whereas in the current ongoing spell, the numbers are very obviously important.

How many times a week do you hear someone reference the ritual?
What terms are usually used as shorthand?


11/22 just seems like too coincidental a date, especially when you see WHERE the King was killed:
(in front of a razed masonic temple, the first in texas)

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Now I'm not saying Freemasonry is bad, I just see how such a Black Brotherhood could worm it's way into such diciplines.

Now directly under this black eternal flame pentagram is the 13th pilar in the Pont de l'Alma tunnel where Princess Diana's car crashed, on the 31st of August. 13/31

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Now that's just, kind of freaky.

OP ED wrote:I see the combined effort of the numbers as "wheels within wheels" so to speak. a hologram of sorts, repeating the same alchemical "wedding" formula over and over again, in various forms, with similar extrapolations.

It isn't over yet either.


Quantifying the ritual...wheels within wheels you say? Like...a mandala?

Osama bin Laden was said to call 9/11 the big wedding...al Qaeda's big wedding, or an alchemical wedding I ask.

When investigators found Mohamed Atta's luggage conveniently left at Boston Logan, at the end of his will he drew a Caduceus with a sword, that said "ROOM". I wonder, if the hijackers were on those planes, if Atta was even subconsciously aware of the bigger transcendent plane of becoming and transformation that would take place.

And no, you're right...it isn't over yet. The ritual is not complete, nor is what it has brought or become.
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Postby 8bitagent » Sat May 03, 2008 8:45 am

OP ED wrote:נא, נא, תקל, ופרסין,

Who they are, is the big question of course. I'm not certain it can easily be answered either, as it seems to me to be representative of a mishmash of belief systems and perversions thereof. Also, I find it unlikely that any of the usual suspects are that DEEP into the occult stuff. It just doesn't seem to fit their psychological profiles from where I sit.


I think even with a cursory look at this black brotherhood, they seem versed in Kundulini snake chakra, Hermetic and Jewish Cabbala,
Egyptian mystery, astrology as well as the mysteries of light/sound/vibrations/color. Their hand reaches through not just Freemasonry and all the splinter groups, but the mysteries of the African and Arab region occult mysteries and groups modern and ancient, as well as those in the Orient. What the lay would called "Jewish Magick" as well as "Egyptology" seems apparent. Goodness knows, what they are trying to accomplish when they sacrifice children, pull of things like 9/11, mass bombings in neo Babylon/Sumer, etc.

The global elite, the mega rich, all powerful usual suspects of deep state, finances, royalty, etc...the Rothschilds, Rockefeller, Poppy Bush type...these people are the favorite, and perhaps well deserved finger pointing of conspiracy research. The Rothschilds have been tied to various magickal orders in France and England. Poppy Bush has been rumored to have been part of various things. But youre right...this sort of stuff, seems much deeper than the usual suspects. Often the elite have mediums/channellers as advisors, but one can only imagine who may truly be part of this black brotherhood.

OP ED wrote:And yes derailing evolution is quite an impossibility. This is why I called it a mistake. Not just of tactics, but also of theory. Trying to accomplish the impossible with ritual is just silly, the reality of magick aside.

Earlier I said something to the effect that all of this is a waste of time, that it is useless to study in and of itself. I'd like to clarify that by explaining myself slightly better.
Gemetria, as a process used by the Cabalists and the forerunners and magical children is primarily psychological. By learning to equate everything in one's personal experience to universal archetypes of the Jungian sort, and then to break these down further into numbers is an exercise designed primarily to assist in the organization of thought. It isn't so much "what do the numbers MEAN" in that sense, but rather "what do you wish for them to mean". In this regard, we've begun a never-ending topical loop. Applications of these exercises are as numerous as occultists, but the primary purpose has always been merely the organization of ideas into categories, hopefully with the ultimate goal of learning to transcend these categories by unification into oneness. I hope that makes sense. Books have been written on the subject, so paragraphs are probably not sufficient to explain properly.


It makes perfect sense to me. While these are principle guidelines, it seems an open interpretative science. The focus of interpretation may account for the disperate elements of the 9/11 ritual, a patch quilt of seemingly conflicting diciplines. When the black brotherhood was in a deep unison meditative focus of the towers and pentagon(while Osama was in a Rawalpindi hospital no less), one has to wonder what the collective egregoric value assigned was. Oneness...From duality of towers, to oneness. The opening of who knows what sort of portal. These people certainly know the mystery of the 12 signs, the procession, etc.

OP ED wrote:I also viewed them as being very obviously co-opted by intelligence agencies/militaries/etc. The obvious part comes in when we realize that people like McMurty and Aquino are in violation of military LAWS by engaging in this sort of sexual activity ["conduct unbecoming of an Officer" etc]. That this is overlooked [yet public information] seems to indicate to me that these people are, rather than an embarrassment, actually considered important assets by PTB..


Michael Aquino posts on Wikipedia, and one leans toward wanting to give people the benefit of the doubt. The things Aquino is accused of are quite ghastly, but regardless there is a clear tie between the military industrial intelligence complex and the deepest of "woo"



OP ED wrote:I haven't even decided where to start my speculations as to "what went wrong" with this ritual, but I am certain something did. Flight 93 itself is probably a good place to begin, but in order to know what went wrong, one would need to know what was supposed to happen AND what actually did happen, both of which we're lacking. Speculation can attempt to fill these holes, but never truly satisfactorily.



Some think Flight 93's doom was intentional, Im not so sure.
Certainly, the numeric symbolism of "93" is hard to shake. The actual facts surrounding the flight are quite unusual.

Some say Flight 93 was spose to hit the then in session capital building, decapitating the government.

We know the symbolism of the tower and pentagon...but, what is within the capital building that holds a secret science? could this be a bluff? Is there a ritual that would involve the template of a twin pilar and pentagon...or is this something wholly original? I have no idea if a third target was truly meant. Nothing goes perfect, but the complete destruction of the towers and the strike on the pentagon went picture perfect.

As for what was the true meaning, the true hoped for outcome...I think were seeing the slow motion trainwreck unfolding, reverberating back into the ancient world/s.
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Postby 8bitagent » Wed May 07, 2008 5:04 am

Bump for OPED, his knowledge is invaluable I feel in this subject.

Also...

in This new Washington Post article further backs up my theory that Islamic terrorism and in particular al Qaeda is controlled by the global elite.
This article shows how all the USS Cole bombers were freed, and went on to be part of other plots, as well as it shows deep Yemeni complicity with al Qaeda. We also find that the Hamburg Cell from 9/11, Spanish Madrid Bombers, etc have all been freed....and how Clinton and Bush officials made sure the FBI couldnt stop or investigate this infrastructure
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Postby OP ED » Wed May 07, 2008 4:11 pm

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Greetings. I thought I'd killed this thread. Which isn't to say I had no plans to return, I just didn't know anyone was paying attention. :wink:

I spent all of Saturday in Bed.

A pause for breath before diving back in.

Crow wrote:OT I know, but OP ED, can that shirt be purchased somewhere? I need.


it was either http://www.cafepress.com/lambentstar/

or

http://www.cafepress.com/sekhetmaat/2165947

that is either SML or HML or someother OTO. Imagery owned by no man. beware the woman wearing:

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how's that for a mark taken to your grave?

honestly I prefer nuit.

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This symbol conceals the secrets of higher dimensional consciousness. It intersects with the topics discussed already as bringing the Enochian watchtowers [also Parson's Babalon Working(s)] into the same world as the cabalist tree of life and mer-ka-ba which I suppose will probably come up again later in this conversation. Being inherently thelemic it also contains sumero-egyptian sex magick as would be interpreted along late Rosicruscian alchemical lines. And it was made in America!

better than your freedom tower.

8bit:

I have some thoughts on the Sirius connections, as it related to John Dee's system. I will get back to you on this as soon as I am able.

btw, Black Brotherhood is the common name for the non-lodge. the dispersive diseased discipleship. it has many faces. it also has similar symptoms. it is related to the psychopathic nature of our politics as discussed in very many other threads on this board.

the task of any actual illuminati would be to put these disciples to the sword.

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Postby 8bitagent » Wed May 07, 2008 6:24 pm

OP ED wrote:This symbol conceals the secrets of higher dimensional consciousness. It intersects with the topics discussed already as bringing the Enochian watchtowers [also Parson's Babalon Working(s)] into the same world as the cabalist tree of life and mer-ka-ba which I suppose will probably come up again later in this conversation. Being inherently thelemic it also contains sumero-egyptian sex magick as would be interpreted along late Rosicruscian alchemical lines.


I do not know what mer-ka-ba is, but after watching some documentaries that hinted at 9/11 being a ritual to collapse not just the towers but spiritual concepts of a Qabalist/Egyptian/John Dee variety I began to suspect as much. (Secret Histories of America's Beginnings, or what I call the Elizabethian occult plan to create America)

I see a longer plan than mere psychopaths blaspheming esoteric belief systems. I see the very formation of America, the esoteric layout of DC, the choosing of Washington DC and NYC, and the creation of the Twin Towers and Pentagon as tied in together. The sex magick part is perhaps the most obvious to me, as well as concepts of male and female duality.

Heres the two biggest questions: How was this plan sold to Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda, whom I do fully believe was intregal(but not the brains) and if not whom...where did such a ghastly plan come from?

OP ED wrote:And it was made in America!
better than your freedom tower.


But even these bastardized/potporri blends of mystery beliefs came from Europe, as imported from the Middle East.
Isn't America really just a satellite, a puppet of European elites? I have a hard time believing 9/11 was "made in the USA". Also I find it very interesting that the top players and radical Islam ideology that permeates al Qaeda is from Egypt.


OP ED wrote:
I have some thoughts on the Sirius connections, as it related to John Dee's system. I will get back to you on this as soon as I am able.

btw, Black Brotherhood is the common name for the non-lodge. the dispersive diseased discipleship. it has many faces. it also has similar symptoms. it is related to the psychopathic nature of our politics as discussed in very many other threads on this board.

the task of any actual illuminati would be to put these disciples to the sword.


David Ovarson in his book on the creation of Washington DC says the Masonic architects wanted to pay homage to Sirius, and bring in the celestial and sacred geometry components to DC as seen in ancient Egypt.
Im very curious as to your ideas on the Sirius connection and John Dee's Enochian system.

Oh I hear you, the first time I heard of a Black Lodge(other than Twin Peaks, ha) was in regards to P2, or Propaganda Due. The Italian Masonic order that was the nerve center of CIA/NATO false flag terror bombings and assassinations, as well as Vatican Banking scandals under "Gladio".

I believe if we go back further, much further before the 17th century, we'll find such a black brotherhood working in say....the 11th century in the Middle East and Europe, and still even further back, way before even the story of Christ emerges.
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Postby Searcher08 » Wed May 07, 2008 6:56 pm

The Sefiroth can also bee seen as the chakras not of the physical, but of the astral and higher bodies. When the astral chakras are awakened, the energy that is produced can be used for direct physical manifestation. Certain classes of magician will spend long hours working with seeds and flowers and utilising this energy flow to create and control the energy of germination and growth. There were people around Rudolph Steiner who were able to do this.
One of the most important structures about the Tree of Life is self-similarity "As Above, So Below". If you get the links correct, a change can be made to go from cell to individual body to country
However there is another aspect, "As Inside, So Outside" and 911 began as a child sacrificial ritual hours before the planes struck, as evidenced in the Princeton consciousness project.
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Postby lunarose » Wed May 07, 2008 7:30 pm

hi searcher.

"However there is another aspect, "As Inside, So Outside" and 911 began as a child sacrificial ritual hours before the planes struck, as evidenced in the Princeton consciousness project."

could you elaborate please? mrs. rose
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Postby Searcher08 » Wed May 07, 2008 7:46 pm

lunarose wrote:hi searcher.

"However there is another aspect, "As Inside, So Outside" and 911 began as a child sacrificial ritual hours before the planes struck, as evidenced in the Princeton consciousness project."

could you elaborate please? mrs. rose


Hi mrs rose,

What follows is speculation...

The forces that were unleashed on Sept 11th were the equivalent of the germination of a set of "seeds"I believe that the "egg tooth" of the mega-ritual was actually performed in a series of magical ritual sacrifices around the world but centered in New York and that some of these probably occured within the WTC complex itself. Just as a homing beacon can be used to guide a plane, I think there was a magical homing beacon, a opening channel for the dark energy released, something set up by a faction of the people involved right at the top.Some sort of truly dreadful elaborate Working that helped lead the 911 bull by the nose into the place of sacrifice

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Postby lunarose » Wed May 07, 2008 7:51 pm

thank you for the 'quick' response.

so basically you are working back from the events of that day.
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Postby Searcher08 » Wed May 07, 2008 8:02 pm

lunarose wrote:thank you for the 'quick' response.

so basically you are working back from the events of that day.


I have always had a gut feeling that 911 didnt "start" when the planes were hijacked - that there was something directly connected that started affecting human consciousness shortly before that, like removing a finger from an astral dyke, the energy manifested into the physical in the morning, but had started some hours before...

when I found out about the Egg and 911 I was amazed :shock:
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Postby 8bitagent » Wed May 07, 2008 8:57 pm

Searcher08 wrote:

What follows is speculation...

The forces that were unleashed on Sept 11th were the equivalent of the germination of a set of "seeds"I believe that the "egg tooth" of the mega-ritual was actually performed in a series of magical ritual sacrifices around the world but centered in New York and that some of these probably occured within the WTC complex itself. Just as a homing beacon can be used to guide a plane, I think there was a magical homing beacon, a opening channel for the dark energy released, something set up by a faction of the people involved right at the top.Some sort of truly dreadful elaborate Working that helped lead the 911 bull by the nose into the place of sacrifice

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You know....you're touching on a secret knowledge and idea so explosive(no pun intended) and seemingly incomprehensible, but it is something both I and even non religious researchers I know have pondered. The deeper you dig into 9/11, the more things lead to things that could only be described as Fortean. The more things lead to things that seem bigger than some cartoonish Loose Change meme of Dick Cheney with joysticks and bombs.

I asked a fellow Islamic terror and deep politic researcher, a no nonsense British writer whose done exhaustive research into all corners of Islamic jihad, 9/11 and the deep state. And I asked him what's up with John O'neil. He said he doesn't like to think about that aspect, because he believes O'neil was a "sacrificial lamb". When you hear William Rodriguez, the 20 year veteran janitor who saved many people's lives at the WTC that tragic day...the only thing he still gets visibly shaked and frightened about other than the collapse and crazyness of that day, is the mystery of the 34th floor. The 34th floor was a sealed room, yet Rodriguez visibly seems shaken, yet emphatic that something not right was going on above him being on the 33rd floor. He said it sounded like large dumpsters and heavy machinery being thrown around that room. So frightened was he, that he didnt dare unlock it to see if there were people needing to get out.
There's stories of the Mothman harbinger being seen inside the WTC and
Somerset Country(Shanksville area) weeks before 9/11, but I find William's testimony ironclad. Some have speculated that John Oneil is tied to the 34th floor mystery, but more on it can be found here:
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2007/09/365664.shtml

My personal view, and I know this would get me laughed off the stage by most people, is that a very dark spiritual force and agenda has been secretly puppeteering mankind for thousands of years. A current that has coursed through Egypt, Sumer, Aztecs, Romans, The British Empire, Babylonia, the 7th century wars of early Islam, to WW2 and what's going on today.
Alleged World Trade Center architect has made claim several times that he believes forces of darkness guide both the Islamic terrorists and the Western leaders...he said Qliphoth named Gamaliel - the obscene; Tzalalimoron - the Clanger; and Bahimoron - the Bestial were assigned to the 9/11 project.

I mean what do we have? We have two towers, rooted in the most ancient of arcane symbolism. 2,603's souls instantly ripped from their body in an instant in New York City, at these two esoteric structures. The ripple from such a working on both the physical and spiritual plane can only be imagined.

What if...what if the 9/11 hijackers were truly al Qaeda young Muslims, being obviously puppeteered by the usual tableaux of CIA, Pakistani ISI, Saudis, corporate fronts, etc. BUT...what if they were also being brainwashed in high level occult mind sciences. Afterall, just look at the scans of Mohamed Atta's will...at the very end, he's scribbling the word "ROOM" with an oroburos like symbol. Or look at Ziad Jarrah and others, specifically seeking out occult based one touch kill military martial arts.

We hear of this Lone Gunmen Xfiles scenario of planes being brought into the towers by remote control. I always thought electronic beacon symbols placed in Marsh and Mclenlan and Fuji Bank computer rooms was more likely. But what *if* theres more to it, and the collapses?

I would not be surprised if world wide on the morning of 9/11, as Osama bin Laden lay in a Rawalpindi hospital *thinking* he was the mastermind,
the black brotherhood was meditating, conducting rituals and connecting together on a different realm. Visually being able to *see* the ritual without even a tv...focusing on guiding the planes in as Osama claims he and his cave buddies were doing.

I always wondered if perhaps, there is a more unsettling cause ultimately for the collapse of the Twin Towers. Sorcerer Magicianship at it's highest,
with the darkest of spiritual manifestation coursing through the now charged towers, bringing them down in succession.

Perhaps if we suspend disbelief for a moment, this here might be the literal hellish manifestations Theosophist Rudolf Steiner felt compelled to make statue busts of:

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The 19 hijackers, mere homoculi. The Planes, mere phallic vessels.
The Twin Towers and Pentagon, the ultimate targets of an elaborate symbolic working. The numbers of 9/11, 11, 77, 93 etc all tied within.
The date itself, making a very significant planetary and celestial event that would have been known about for centuries.
The result? The complete transformation of humanity on the physical and spiritual plane.
The mystery? Flight 93.

I think you and OP ED may be onto something.
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Searcher08 wrote:The Sefiroth can also bee seen as the chakras not of the physical, but of the astral and higher bodies. When the astral chakras are awakened, the energy that is produced can be used for direct physical manifestation. Certain classes of magician will spend long hours working with seeds and flowers and utilising this energy flow to create and control the energy of germination and growth. There were people around Rudolph Steiner who were able to do this.
One of the most important structures about the Tree of Life is self-similarity "As Above, So Below". If you get the links correct, a change can be made to go from cell to individual body to country
However there is another aspect, "As Inside, So Outside" and 911 began as a child sacrificial ritual hours before the planes struck, as evidenced in the Princeton consciousness project.


I believe the true elite behind all seats of power, not this cartoonish Dan Brown "Illuminati", but as OP ED referred to as the "Black Brotherhood" has a clear understanding of the Kundalini chakras and the collapsing of the chakras. The Sephiroth and the Qliphoth. The Egyptian mystery, of the true mystery of astrology/procession/planets, of both Jewish and Hermetic Q'abbalism, of Solomonic and Enochian magick and all structures between.
They know the power of sound, colors, strong shapes, sigil, etc.
There's is a dream machine weaved around us every day.

I believe the black brotherhood now and then likes to pluck children from the usual UN/Dyncorp/black market child kidnapping and forced labor rings for special occations. I believe these sacrifices happen in Europe at castles and private mansions, but also in the Middle East and Asia.
We see mass sacrifices like the Atomic bomb, which to me is a 100% occult working. I would not be surprised if such ghastly horrors were committed worldwide the morning of 9/11.

Also, man...is this fascinating or what?
http://noosphere.princeton.edu/terror.html

Global consciousness the day of September 11th.

If as you say, the elite were concentrating and performing rituals that morning...that is one mother of an egregore.
The collapse of the towers, the collapse of the chakra and portal like effect. Definitely an homage to something...dare I say, Egyptian?
"Do you know who I am? I am the arm, and I sound like this..."-man from another place, twin peaks fire walk with me
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