DC Madam possibly commits suicide in Tarpon Springs

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Postby professorpan » Fri May 02, 2008 3:52 pm

crikkett wrote:
professorpan wrote:Though it does seem fishy, it's certainly feasible that someone would commit suicide before going to jail. A friend of mine made that choice several years ago.


I'm sorry that happened.


Yeah, it was pretty terrible. He was a good-hearted person who happened to get busted for growing some pot plants after his lunatic girlfriend tried to shoot him. He had been to jail once, briefly, and swore he'd never go back again.

The girlfriend, who was truly vile, crept up on him tried to shoot him in the head. He grabbed the gun from her, but it discharged in his face. He managed to get to the hospital and get treated, but since it was a gunshot wound, the hospital alerted the cops, and the cops went to his house, broke in, and found the pot plants.

When he found out what had happened, he hanged himself while he was in lockup. I still wonder if they allowed him to do it -- I mean, don't they keep an eye out for that kind of thing?

Whatever the case, he was just another victim of the War on (some) Drugs. Just like this guy who died yesterday:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/l ... th02m.html
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Postby tKl » Fri May 02, 2008 5:33 pm

If Palfrey was going to commit suicide to avoid jail time, I would assume she would want to take as many as the bastards out with her as she could. Release a list, then do the deed.
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Postby bubblefunk » Fri May 02, 2008 6:03 pm

Parsing that "approximately two" is throwing me. What is the reason for such phrasing? Are they waiting to decide on an acceptable number of suicide notes or something?
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Postby seemslikeadream » Fri May 02, 2008 6:03 pm

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation ... 7053.story

Four days ago, the woman known as the "D.C. Madam" stood in the lobby of her condominium building near downtown Orlando, musing about the future.

Deborah Jeane Palfrey said she was preparing for federal prison. She hoped she'd get time off her sentence for good behavior. She thought she might buy a place in Germany one day.

On Thursday, Palfrey was found dead, hanging by a nylon rope from a metal beam in a backyard shed near her mother's home in Tarpon Springs, on the coast 100 miles west of Orlando. Police said it was an apparent suicide.

"It's hard to believe," said Joseph Strizack, a condominium-association manager at Park Lake Towers who got to know Palfrey during her decade as an owner there. "She did not seem the least bit distraught."



Palfrey's 76-year-old mother, Blanche Palfrey, found her daughter after waking from a short nap, Tarpon Springs police Capt. Jeffrey Young said. She was searching for her daughter when she noticed a three-wheeled bike had been moved outside of the shed where it was kept.

Just after 11 a.m., Blanche Palfrey went inside the shed, where she discovered the body. Deborah Palfrey, 52, left behind two separate notes and a notebook with other messages to family, Young said.

"Mom is very distraught," Young said. "Discovering your child in this state is not something you want to go to."

A 1979 graduate of Rollins College in Winter Park, Deborah Palfrey became notorious because of her upscale escort service, Pamela Martin and Associates, which federal prosecutors said made $2 million during its 13 years in business.

Her client list included Washington's political elite, including U.S. Sen. David Vitter, a Louisiana Republican and married father of four who apologized publicly last year for using Palfrey's services.

Senior State Department official Randall Tobias also was on the list and resigned from his post after the scandal broke. Palfrey also named Harlan Ullman, author of the "shock and awe" combat strategy, as a client.

On April 15, a federal jury convicted Palfrey of money laundering, using the mail for illegal purposes and racketeering in connection with her escort service. Palfrey had denied her business engaged in prostitution, saying that if any of the women engaged in sex acts for money, they did so without her knowledge.

The trial concluded without revealing many new details about the service or its clients. Vitter was among possible witnesses but did not take the stand.

A spokesman for the U.S. Attorney's Office in the District of Columbia said that under sentencing guidelines, Palfrey faced five to six years in prison. She was free until a sentencing hearing scheduled for July 24.

Palfrey's death was the second suicide associated with the case.

A woman who worked for the escort service, former University of Maryland professor Brandy Britton, killed herself in January 2007 before she was scheduled to go to trial on prostitution charges.

Palfrey said afterward that she was humiliated by her prostitution charges but added: "I guess I'm made of something that Brandy Britton wasn't made of."

There was no evidence Palfrey had been using drugs or alcohol, but a toxicology review will determine whether there were substances in her blood. Blanche Palfrey had not noticed that her daughter was despondent or seen any signs of suicidal behavior, Young said.

Still, Deborah Palfrey confided that she hated the idea of living behind bars, said Dan E. Moldea, a Washington writer who befriended Palfrey while considering writing a book about her. He recalled a conversation over dinner last year when the subject of prison came up.

"She said, 'I am not going back to prison. I will commit suicide first,' " Moldea recalled.

During her trial, the D.C. Madam was cautiously optimistic, even when the case went before the jury, he said. After the verdicts, Moldea sent her an e-mail but didn't hear back. A week later, he said he sent another note titled "A Concerned Friend" asking whether she was OK.

Again, he didn't hear back.

On Monday, Palfrey arrived at her two-bedroom, two-bath corner condominium at Park Lake Towers, where she often stayed on trips to visit her mother, Strizack said. She had owned the Orlando home since 1996, but it was up for sale.

Palfrey was a pleasant, meticulous person, Strizack recalled. She treasured her privacy so much that she once sued the condominium association because it kept a key to her unit.

She did not draw attention to herself, but when she talked to you, she was clearly well-organized and in control, he said.

On Monday, Palfrey seemed no different. She carried clothing, briefcases and suitcases down the stairs from her second-floor apartment to a rented car in the parking lot, stopping to chat as usual.

She told Strizack she was taking her property to her mother's home in preparation for prison. Contrary to the U.S. Attorney's Office estimate, she told the condo manager she thought she might spend six or seven years behind bars.

On one trip down the stairs, she lugged a 2-foot-wide box she suggested carried materials related to her infamous court case.

"This is my evidence," she told Strizack before carrying it out the door.
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2 things I wonder about

Postby pepsified thinker » Fri May 02, 2008 8:06 pm

1) the 'hanged herself from a shed's metal beam' seems worth considering.

I tried the google map satellite view of an address for her mom--but the map points to the complex, not to individual lots, and it doesn't give 'street view' inside the complex, so I couldn't say what sort of shed was involved.

BUT--it's mobile home park so--big assumption here, but--I'm guessing the shed is not a delux, 'grand' structure--maybe an HQ/Lowes kit? There are surely many versions of such, and I'm only familiar with a few, but they were not big on headroom, and I'm not sure I'd trust any of them to hold my weight--specially for the sharp drop necessary for the quicker death a person would presumably have in mind; you'd need a strong enough beam, AND enough height that you could drop (to get a sharp snap to break your neck, rather than slowly strangle--sorry if that's too graphic for anyone, and let me know if I've got this wrong somehow).

AND though I've posted on this before without much response, I gotta say (again), it always struck me as an 'interesting' that she'd have a court appointed attorney (Preston Burton--see here: http://www.orrick.com/lawyers/Bio.asp?ID=167413) who just happened to have also represented top-level spies (Aldrich Ames, and Robert Hanssen), and (during the Clinton Impeachment) Monica Lewinski, and so on. If the guy's just 'willing to help' and is good, then fine, but it seemed he'd be the 'go to' guy for keeping a lid on sensitive info from his clients--so if the court appointed him what does that mean?

Anyone know how such appointments are made? Does the judge have discretion? Does a court appointed attorney have the right to decline--and do they ever?
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Postby sunny » Fri May 02, 2008 8:30 pm

Anyone know how such appointments are made? Does the judge have discretion? Does a court appointed attorney have the right to decline--and do they ever?


Most court appointed attorneys come from the public defenders office, which not all cities have, but I'm assuming DC does. If the city doesn't have one, they usually come from a private legal aid firm.

My friend is a private attorney who does a lot of court appointed work for the probate court, representing individuals who are facing involuntary commitment. I'm not sure how she got on the list to do that, I'm assuming since she knows the judge he throws her some work. Preston Burton seems too high a muckety muck to be on any such list.
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Postby Stephen Morgan » Sat May 03, 2008 4:48 am

Endomorph wrote:Assuming that's accurate, that makes the "staged suicide" thing a lot less plausible. You'd have to either make sure that policemen willing to plant evidence were the first on the scene, or else have people sneak in and put in suicide notes for the police to find, somehow. In both cases they'd have to be forged in her handwriting.


Anyone killing her would need to be in the place anyway. Wouldn't take a moment to just dump "approximately two" suicide note/notes.
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Postby Uncle $cam » Sat May 03, 2008 6:50 am

Where is that 2-foot-wide box? Deborah Palfrey was murdered. And there will be no meaningful INVESTIGATION.

DC Madam hauls big box of evidence to Mom's before suicide
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation ... 7053.story
Four days ago, the woman known as the "D.C. Madam" stood in the lobby of her condominium building near downtown Orlando, musing about the future. Deborah Jeane Palfrey said she was preparing for federal prison. She hoped she'd get time off her sentence for good behavior. She thought she might buy a place in Germany one day.

...

"It's hard to believe," said Joseph Strizack, a condominium-association manager at Park Lake Towers who got to know Palfrey during her decade as an owner there. "She did not seem the least bit distraught."

...

A spokesman for the U.S. Attorney's Office in the District of Columbia said that under sentencing guidelines, Palfrey faced five to six years in prison. She was free until a sentencing hearing scheduled for July 24.


...

A woman who worked for the escort service, former University of Maryland professor Brandy Britton, killed herself in January 2007 before she was scheduled to go to trial on prostitution charges. Palfrey said afterward that she was humiliated by her prostitution charges but added: "I guess I'm made of something that Brandy Britton wasn't made of."

...

Blanche Palfrey had not noticed that her daughter was despondent or seen any signs of suicidal behavior, Young said.

...

On Monday, Palfrey seemed no different. She carried clothing, briefcases and suitcases down the stairs from her second-floor apartment to a rented car in the parking lot, stopping to chat as usual. She told Strizack she was taking her property to her mother's home in preparation for prison. Contrary to the U.S. Attorney's Office estimate, she told the condo manager she thought she might spend six or seven years behind bars. On one trip down the stairs, she lugged a 2-foot-wide box she suggested carried materials related to her infamous court case. "This is my evidence," she told Strizack before carrying it out the door.
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Postby Asta » Sat May 03, 2008 9:28 am

"Mobile home park" is misleading.

I saw a photo of the home on CNN.com (I think it was CNN) and for those who haven't visited Florida then you don't know how nice these "mobile home parks" can be.

Anyway, the Palfrey home was quite charming, nothing about it said "trailer trash". The patio was an expensive laid brickwork, and the foundation was stone like you see in older homes up north, river rock. Lovely flower boxes, lots of color.

The "shed" was adjacent to the house and was definitely not something you'd find at Home Depot or Lowe's. It looked custom built, as it matched the home.

And it certainly wasn't tall enough to hang one's self in, unless you're a dwarf.

Interesting how the media tries to demean people with terms like "mobile home". How the house was built has nothing to do with the events. Seriously.
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Postby NeonLX » Sat May 03, 2008 9:31 am

Asta wrote:
Interesting how the media tries to demean people with terms like "mobile home". How the house was built has nothing to do with the events. Seriously.


Heh. And they're getting more and more bold about it too. It's that "liberal elite", y'know... :)
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Postby pepsified thinker » Sat May 03, 2008 10:04 am

actually, my bad for assuming mobil home = not so fancy/nice. There's a lot to be said for not having commercial TV (via old fashioned broadcast or cable) in the home, but there are some downsides to it as well.

and good point re: two foot box.

I think when she posted the phone numbers on-line (and the site was so busy it jammed), or maybe when she gave them to ABC, there was some mention of how many boxes were involved. Anyone remember (better) where to look for that?
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Postby Endomorph » Sat May 03, 2008 2:48 pm

Stephen Morgan wrote:
Endomorph wrote:Assuming that's accurate, that makes the "staged suicide" thing a lot less plausible. You'd have to either make sure that policemen willing to plant evidence were the first on the scene, or else have people sneak in and put in suicide notes for the police to find, somehow. In both cases they'd have to be forged in her handwriting.


Anyone killing her would need to be in the place anyway. Wouldn't take a moment to just dump "approximately two" suicide note/notes.


I had been assuming that if there were murderers, they would not have had to sneak into the house where the mom was sleeping; they could have snatched her after she left the house.
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Postby professorpan » Sat May 03, 2008 9:59 pm

http://www.wesh.com/news/16142638/detail.html

Building Manager: DC Madam's Death Not Suicide

ORLANDO, Fla. -- The building manager of a Central Florida condo said he spent time talking to Deborah Jean Palfrey on Monday as she packed to go to her mother's house and she did not seem suicidal.
Deborah Jean Palfrey has many ties to Central Florida. For the past 12 years she's owned a condo at Park Lake Towers in Orlando.

The building manager, who did not want to show his face, talked with Palfrey Monday before she left for her mother's in Tarpon Springs. He strongly believes Palfrey's death was not a suicide.

"Jean Palfrey was a class act. She wore very good clothes. She was well educated. Her way out of this world certainly would not have been in an aluminum shed attached to a mobile home in Tarpon Springs, Florida," he said.

Palfrey was convicted of running a high-profile escort service for Washington's elite and faced a sentencing this summer that would likely lead to many years in prison. But she was found hanged Thursday at her mother's home and investigators said they have no doubt it was a suicide.
"A couple handwritten notes. At least one note was found inside residence indicating her intent to take her life," Capt. Jeffrey Young of the Tarpon Springs Police Department said of Palfrey's death.

Palfrey’s building manager said she often told him she believed she was being followed and he thinks there may have been some former clients of her escort service who wanted her dead.

"She insinuated that there is a contract out for her and I fully believe they succeeded," her building manager said.

Palfrey's Lexus is still parked in the Park Lake garage and the staff said on Monday, she asked about making sure her condo fees would continue to be paid during what Palfrey anticipated would be six years in prison.
They said she left that day with some suitcases and a box.

"She had one white paper file box that she told me had some important paper with her and then she just kind of raised her eyebrows like you're supposed to think oh yeah, that's all the information that she had on her business in Washington," her building manager said.

Palfrey never denied running an escort service for 13 years, but she did deny any knowledge that any illegal sexual activity was occurring.
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Postby 8bitagent » Sun May 04, 2008 8:09 pm

And, this story just got a whole hell of a lot more intriguing and interesting...

check out Geraldo and Alex Jones on Fox news...crazy new info, and *gasp* Geraldo is leaning toward conspiracy

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Palfrey Suicide Notes

Postby pepsified thinker » Mon May 05, 2008 3:51 pm

Gotta say, kinda convincing. But I still see too much 'convenience' in her death, for the PTBs, and too many questions. One of which is, of course, no statement about having earlier declared that she would never do such a thing--and given her view of how she was treated, why not 'out' them in the notes? Why not dump the docs on-line as a final fling at her persecutors? Seems consistent with her statements leading up to trial, etc.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/05/AR2008050501055_pf.html

[url]Palfrey Suicide Notes Are Released[/url]
By Petula Dvorak
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, May 5, 2008; 12:46 PM

Deborah Jeane Palfrey, the Washington escort service operator who hanged herself last week, left behind a pair of suicide notes, including one that described her recent racketeering trial as a "modern day lynching."

Palfrey, 52, who faced a likely prison term for running a call-girl ring, wrote that suicide was the only "exit strategy" she had left, according to the notes left at her mother's residence in Tarpon Springs, Fla., where her body was found Thursday. She had been free pending sentencing July 24.

Officials released the suicide notes today. Written in looping, large capital letters on yellow legal paper, they were found on a nightstand in the Sun Valley Estates Mobile Home Park. Palfrey's mother found her body in a storage shed behind the home.

The Pinellas County medical examiner's Office ruled the death a suicide. Authorities expect a final report once toxicology tests are finished.

Detectives from the Tarpon Springs Police Department followed several investigative avenues, but found "no new evidence would indicate anything other than suicide by hanging," according to Capt. Jeffrey P. Young.

The note to Palfrey's mother, 76-year-old Blanche Palfrey asked for forgiveness:

"Mom, I want you to know how very much I love and appreciate you. I sincerely apologize for any pain which I have caused you in this lifetime. Additionally, I can't sufficiently express to you how badly I feel for this burden I am leaving you with here," Palfrey wrote.

"However, I cannot live the next 6-8 years behind bars for what both you and I have come to regard as this 'modern day lynching', only to come out of prison in my late 50s a broken, penniless and very much alone woman."

Palfrey was staying in a spare room with her mother in Florida. A federal jury convicted her last month of running a prostitution ring in the District masquerading as "a high-end erotic fantasy service." Palfrey argued that for 13 years, she had no idea that the call girls working for her were getting paid $250 an hour for sex.

Palfrey, who did not testify during her trial, had said she insisted her employees -- socially polished, college-educated women -- took part in legal "quasi-sexual" fantasies, not real sex.

Palfrey's notes said she couldn't bear another stint in prison. She had served an 18-month term in California in the early 1990s for running a prostitution service.

In a note to her sister, Bobbie, she told her she loved her and asked her to be there for their mother:

"You need to be strong for Mom. Help her in any way possible. Also you must comprehend there was no way out I.E. 'exit strategy' for me other than the one I have chosen here," she wrote. "As you read this letter (probably repeatedly in time), know I am in peace, with complete certainty, I believe Dad is standing watch, prepared to guide me into the light."
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