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Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Mon May 05, 2008 3:37 pm

No joke that NPR is really Nationalist Propaganda Radio run by CIA veterans.

(Thanks to http://nprcheck.blogspot.com/ for watching this dog daily.)

NPR's president since 1998, Kevin Klose, comes right out of State Department-CIA media sometimes known as Operation Mockingbird.

Voice of America, Radio Free Europe-Radio Liberty, Broadcast Board of Governors, Washington Post, Harvard, etc.
That's our boy.
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Here's his CIA propaganda biography taking over NPR just before the April '99 NATO bombing of Kosovo which is probably why he moved over to NPR-
http://www.npr.org/about/press/981111.klose.html
For immediate release
November 11, 1998

NPR Announces New President and CEO

Washington, DC – The Board of Directors of National Public Radio® (NPR®) announced today its selection of veteran journalist and international media executive Kevin Klose as the next President and Chief Executive Officer of NPR, effective in mid-December. Klose, 58, a former editor and correspondent at The Washington Post, is currently Director of the U.S. International Broadcasting Bureau (IBB), the U.S. global, non-military radio and television system.
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Klose has led the IBB since April 1997, responsible for the Voice of America, Worldnet Television and the Office of Cuba Broadcasting, and broadcast support for Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty and Radio Free Asia.
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"It is very difficult to leave the Bureau, the oversight board, and the staffs just at the moment broadcasting has achieved the status of a separate federal agency," Klose said. "But the work that must be done to implement independence is in good hands under the chairmanship of Marc B. Nathanson, and the Broadcasting Board of Governors."

Broadcasting Board chairman Nathanson said, "It is a distinguished opportunity for Kevin – hard for us to lose him, but so positive for NPR and its mission. He will do a tremendous job for NPR."

Before joining IBB, Klose was president of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, a private, non-profit multi-national radio news organization that broadcasts to Central Europe and the former Soviet Union.

A veteran reporter and editor at The Washington Post, Klose was Moscow Bureau Chief (1977-81), Midwest correspondent (1983-87) and Deputy National Editor (1987-91) during his 25-year career there.

He is the author of Russia and the Russians: Inside the Closed Society, an account of life in the Soviet Union that won the Overseas Press Club's Cornelius Ryan Award (1985).

A graduate of Harvard University
with an honors degree in English literature, Klose served two years in the U.S. Navy. He was born in Toronto and grew up in Red Hook, New York. His parents, Woody and Virginia Taylor Klose, were radio producers and writers during the Golden Age of Radio in the 1930s and 1940s.


Kevin Close is still there at NPR today using all those same ex-generals as Pentagon 'message magnifiers' like Robert Scales and CIA shills from the American Enterprise Institute that the rest of the CIA media is using to handle us during Vietnam II.

http://nprcheck.blogspot.com/2008/05/nprs-fair-and-balanced-explanation.html

Kevin Klose's current NPR biography now sells him in business language to friendly-up his work making the internet part of US psy-ops to 'deconflict' messaging as being frugally saving us money and improving efficiency-

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http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=2101415
Kevin Klose, NPR Biography
President

Kevin Klose is president of NPR, America's premier non-profit news and cultural radio programming service, renowned for journalistic excellence and standard-setting news and entertainment programming.

A former editor, and national and foreign correspondent with The Washington Post, Klose is an award-winning author and international broadcasting executive. Prior to joining NPR in December 1998, Klose served successively as director of U.S. international broadcasting, overseeing the United States Government's global radio and television news services (1997-98); and president of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty (RFE/RL), broadcasting to Central Europe and the former Soviet Union (1994-97). Klose first joined RFE/RL in 1992 as director of Radio Liberty, broadcasting to the former Soviet Union in its national languages.

As RFE/RL president, Klose radically downsized RFE/RL and moved it from Munich, Germany, to Prague, the Czech Republic. He also helped devise and implement a strategy to coordinate all U.S.-funded international broadcasting (Voice of America, Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, Radio Free Asia, Radio/TV Marti, Worldnet Television) to save money, refocus the mission, and modernize operations in the post-Cold War.

Prior to RFE/RL, Klose was an editor and reporter at The Washington Post for 25 years. His various positions at the newspaper included city editor (1974-76); Moscow bureau chief (1977-1981); Midwest correspondent (1983-1987); and deputy national editor (1987-1990).

Klose received a Bachelor of Arts degree, cum laude, at Harvard. A former Woodrow Wilson National Fellow, he serves on the board of Independent Sector in Washington, DC. He is the author of Russia and the Russians: Inside the Closed Society, winner of the Overseas Press Club's Cornelius Ryan Award; and co-author of four other books.
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I'm not sure, but...

Postby pepsified thinker » Mon May 05, 2008 4:21 pm

I thought, from an interview (probably with Diane Rheeme [sp?]) that he was related to Glenn Close (the actress). But the spelling is different.

I looked up both on Wikipedia, and his bio doesn't give parents/relatives. Hers does, but doesn't mention him--so I'm guessing not,
...but I coulda sworn.

I wouldn't have thought that it would matter--except once I DID look her up--whew!--she's old money/East Coast elite, big time! (Her dad was physician to Mobutu Sese Seko [of the country formerly known as 'Zaire']; she went through Choate, and she's related to everyone and anyone--kinda interesting just on that basis.

SO, it would totally make sense if they WERE/ARE related, and if he went into the State Dept./CIA. Seems like there's a certain 'crowd' that tends that way and HER background 'fits'--as far as my casual awareness of these things goes.

SO, sorry if I'm wrong--as seems to be the case--but there's still a 'hole' where his bio ought to be, and that COULD be filled with the connection that I vaguely remember.

ALSO--seems like his arrival is about when I started to notice NPR pieces that leaned pretty far to the right. At the time, I attributed it to Gingrich's having target the CPB's federal funding. I think one piece I remember was a fluff piece about Gringrich.

[On edit: it's 'Rehm', and here's a link for her 1999 interview with Klose--haven't explored it beyond finding it: http://wamu.org/programs/dr/99/01/07.php#13368 ]
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Re: Timing.

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Mon May 05, 2008 4:59 pm

pepsified thinker wrote:.....
ALSO--seems like his arrival is about when I started to notice NPR pieces that leaned pretty far to the right. At the time, I attributed it to Gingrich's having target the CPB's federal funding. I think one piece I remember was a fluff piece about Gringrich.
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Major changes in propaganda systems go hand in hand with historical military operations, the landmark events that allow fascism to spread.

Kevin Klose moved to NPR in November 1998, just before Clinton created a new consolidated propaganda organization by signing Presidential Decision Directive PDD 68 on April 30, 1999, in the heat of the US operations in the Balkans, the first war where the internet played a major instantaneous role in psy-ops.

Covert US government domestic propaganda is a constant since WWII but there are surges of propaganda to go with surges in the permanent resource war that has been ongoing since oil replaced coal as the currency of national power.

Just as during the 1960s when CIA counterinsurgency methods used against social movements overseas were applied to domestic dissent, a surge of USIA propaganda expertise previously focused on overseas audiences was now turned inward on domestic audiences with NPR retooled to be even more of a Voice of America for Americans than it had been previously.

I think this was a preparation for imminent invasion of the Middle East and surveillance of US citizens under the pretext of reacting to a terrorist event, a scenario discussed in a national security conference led by Philip Zelikow in 1998, the same year as the 'Foreign Affairs Reform and Restructuring Act.'

The Big War Machine was being assembled and oiled.

http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/pdd/pdd-68.htm
International Public Information (IPI)
Presidential Decision Directive PDD 68
30 April 1999
No text or factsheet for this PDD has been released.

On 30 April 1999 President Clinton issued a secret Presidential Decision Direction -- PDD 68 -- ordering the creation of an International Public Information (IPI) to address problems identified during military missions in Kosovo and Haiti, when no single US agency was empowered to coordinate US efforts to sell its policies and counteract bad press abroad. The IPI system is geared towards prevention and mitigation of crises and operate on a continuous basis. PDD-68 is evidently intended to replace the provisions of NSDD 77 "Management of Public Diplomacy Relative to National Security" issued by President Reagan on 14 February 1983.

PDD 68 ordered top officials from the Defense, State, Justice, Commerce and Treasury departments and the Central Intelligence Agency and FBI to establish an IPI Core Group. The IPI Core Group is chaired by the Under Secretary for Public Diplomacy and Public Affairs at the State Department. The IPI Core Group is ordered by the Presidential Directive to "assist [U.S. government] efforts in defeating adversaries." "The intelligence community will play a crucial role . . . for identifying hostile foreign propaganda and deception that targets the U.S.," the Group's charter says. The IPI Core Group will arrange "training exercises at the National Defense University, National Foreign Affairs Training Center, the Service War Colleges" and other institutions.

The International Public Information [IPI] System is designed to "influence foreign audiences" in support of US foreign policy and to counteract propaganda by enemies of the United States. The intent is "to enhance U.S. security, bolster America's economic prosperity and to promote democracy abroad," according to the IPI Core Group Charter. The Group's charter statess that IPI control over "international military information" is intended to "influence the emotions, motives, objective reasoning and ultimately the behavior of foreign governments, organizations, groups and individuals." The IPIG will encourage the United Nations and other international organizations to make "effective use of IPI . . . in support of multilateral peacekeeping." According to the IPIG Chater, IPI activities "are overt and address foreign audiences only" while domestic information should be "deconflicted" and "synchronized" to avoid contradictory messages.

Previously, the US Information Agency and the State Department were the primary agencies with responsibility for international public diplomacy. But with the information revolution, all agencies now have the ability to communicate internationally and interact with foreign populations. IPI is a mechanism that has been established to make sure that these various actors are working in a coordinated manner. According to the IPIG Charter, "The objective of IPI is to synchronize the informational objectives, themes and messages that will be projected overseas . . . to prevent and mitigate crises and to influence foreign audiences in ways favorable to the achievement of U.S. foreign policy objectives." The charter insists that information distributed through IPI should be designed not "to mislead foreign audiences" and that information programs "must be truthful."

The new information policy will not be used to influence the American public, which is prohibited by U.S. law. However, since foreign media reports are frequently reflected in American news media, it will be impossible to entirely preclude a backwash of the IPI-generated information into America. The IPIG Charter recognizes this, calling for the US Government domestic public affairs activities to be coordinated with foreign IPI efforts. According to the IPIG Charter, information aimed at domestic audiences should "be coordinated, integrated, deconflicted and synchronized with the [IPI Core Group] to achieve a synergistic effect for [government] strategic information activities."


So I'd date the beginning of what we're in now-
post-Vietnam
post-Constitution
total psyops-fueled
overt police-state
militarism
...to early 1999 when the US Information Agency was folded into the State Department to improve the psy-ops deployed for the US-NATO bombing of Kosovo.

This bombing was a US-Russia proxy war over drug and oil pipelines that connect the Middle East with Europe.

I think that expectation of a dramatic act of millenial terrorism for 2000 was prepared for by this Clinton admin. muscle flexing and psy-ops, just as the December 1989 invasion of Panama was a warm-up of military and psy-ops systems for Gulf War I.
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Postby chlamor » Mon May 05, 2008 9:40 pm

Thanks Hugh.

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Media Mind Control over War, Economics, other issues

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Campaign Against NPR Conservative Agenda

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Mon May 05, 2008 10:33 pm

Excellent NPR watch website-
http://nprcheck.blogspot.com/
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Good collection of indictments against NPR's pro-war agenda after it distorted coverage of an October 26, 2002 anti-war protest. Lots of links in original-
http://www.socialconscience.com/firenancy/
Campaign to make NPR accountable
for representing Lockheed-Martin over the people


Alex Constantine on NPR's spook-connected right wing religion reporter
who is married to the owner of the Atlantic Media Company,
Barbara Bradley Hagerty-
http://alexconstantine.blogspot.com/2007/01/atlantic-monthly-cia-mockingbird.html
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Postby American Dream » Mon May 05, 2008 10:37 pm

NPR is funded by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, itself funded by the U.S. Congress. The CPB was headed by Bob Coonrod, a long-time boss at the US Information Agency, wreaked much havoc a decade or so ago by funding the attempted "takeover" of the Pacifica Radio by corporate-allied mainstreamers. The long-radical "network" was suddenly giving employment to lots of "Radio Free" Europe, Asia, Marti employees, including Amy Goodman's boss at the time. In New York City, the WBAI "Christmas Coup" was a hostile takeover which immediately preceded the 9/11 happenings.

This spooky milieu helped Pacifica to "increase listenership" just as they helped NPR ("National Petroleum Radio")...
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Wow. My quote! Great page.

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Mon May 05, 2008 11:31 pm

chlamor wrote:Thanks Hugh.
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Check out this link:
http://www.takeoverworld.info/media.html
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Funny. I am quoted there on that webpage.

Months ago I spent a few days posting at the discussion boards over at Fintan Dunne's 'BreakForNews' site and commenting on TV as MKULTRA conditioning.
(Lots of hostile elbows and too many global warming deniers inspired my departure.)

But somebody politely responded they wanted to use a line I'd posted and I said sure.
Here it is-
What shall we watch tonight?
Propaganda, social engineering, role modeling, conditioning, adrenalin markers, or desensitization?


Sound familiar? I hope the rest of the site is as good as that. :P
on edit: Great page on CIA media, lots collected in one place. Thanks, chlamor.
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NPR Scott Simon supported invading Iraq on air.

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Mon May 05, 2008 11:56 pm

NPR 'Weekend Edition' host, Scott Simon, supported invading Iraq and fended off Robert Jensen's comments in an interview.

Ironically, Robert Jensen and Norman Solomon, another recent critic of NPR, quit Project Censored over 9/11 Truth. And 9/11 is what got the invasion going in the first place.
Too many people won't cross that line into Hard Truth.

http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles3/Jensen_NPR.htm

On NPR, Please Follow the Script
by Robert Jensen
Dissident Voice

March 24, 2003

Last week I found out that National Public Radio wants the opinions of antiwar activists -- as long as we follow the right script.

After a day of antiwar protests on the University of Texas campus and in Austin, I found myself booked as a late-night guest on NPR’s all-day coverage of the war to be interviewed by Scott Simon, the popular host of Weekend Edition on Saturdays.

I knew something about Simon’s politics from an essay he published in the Wall Street Journal a month after 9/11. In that piece he explained that he had become a Quaker and pacifist during the antiwar movement of the 1960s but now supported Bush’s “war on terrorism.” His prose at the time was undistinguishable from the president’s rhetoric:

“But those of us who have been pacifists must admit that it has been our blessing to live in a nation in which other citizens have been willing to risk their lives to defend our dissent. The war against terrorism does not shove American power into places where it has no place. It calls on America’s military strength in a global crisis in which peaceful solutions are not apparent.”


So, when I found out Simon would be interviewing me, I had an idea of what to expect: The liberal defense of the American empire that one hears from people who have accepted the idea that we now intervene only for “humanitarian” or defensive reasons, and besides everything is different since 9/11. These people would never be so crude as to try to silence antiwar activists or question their patriotism; instead, they prefer to indulge our naiveté with that “someday you will understand” look. Even though I was not in the studio with him, I could feel that look on Simon’s face through the phone line.

After the first question, it was clear Simon expected me to follow a script that would go something like this: Yes, I’m against this war, but I know that Saddam Hussein is such a monster that nothing short of war can deal with him. Yes, I’m against this war, but now that the president has made this decision we should unify as a nation. Yes, I’m against this war, but -- in the end -- I realize that I should acknowledge that I am a naïve and foolish person who can’t deal the harsh realities of a harsh world.

Well, I didn’t follow the script, and it wasn’t long before it was clear in Simon’s voice that he wasn’t pleased.

Instead of accepting the assumptions built into his pro-war framework, I challenged them. I agreed that Hussein was a totalitarian thug, but argued that had little to do with why the Bush administration had pressed for a war. I talked of U.S. plans for empire and the longstanding U.S. project of controlling the Middle East as a source of strategic power in the world. I referred to the Bush administration’s own National Security Strategy document (http://www.whitehouse.gov/nsc/nss.html), which lays out a plan for U.S. dominance, and the U.S. military Space Command’s plans for controlling space (http://www.gsinstitute.org/resources/ex ... n_2020.pdf).

With each point I made, Simon returned to some version of, “Yes, but certainly you must acknowledge …”


But I never did acknowledge what he wanted me to -- not out of obstinacy but because I thought he was wrong. When it came time to take callers, Simon didn’t invite me to stay on the line, even though it was clear that he and I could have engaged in a lively exchange with listeners. After going off the air, I listened to the callers and was amused by the way Simon tried to spin my comments and put back in place the proper pro-war framework.

Since 9/11, I have been interviewed about antiwar politics hundreds of times on radio and television, including on a number of right-wing shows. I have been invited back on several of those conservative shows, where the hosts generally don’t mind a guest who strongly disagrees (although they keep tight control over their shows and generally like to get the last word).

But I don’t expect ever to be invited back on a show hosted by Scott Simon. He might argue that is because my ideas are so crazy that they don’t deserve a hearing. But what Simon either doesn’t know -- or doesn’t want to know -- is that the analysis I offered that night is hardly unique to me.

Simon should acknowledge that millions of people around the country and the world share a radical analysis of this war for oil and empire. And they are growing increasingly weary of the condescension of liberals.

Robert Jensen, an associate professor of journalism at the University of Texas at Austin, is the author of Writing Dissent: Taking Radical Ideas from the Margins to the Mainstream and a member of the Nowar Collective. Email: rjensen@uts.cc.utexas.edu. Other articles are available at his website: http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~rjensen/home.htm.
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Postby cptmarginal » Tue May 06, 2008 1:26 am

Major changes in propaganda systems go hand in hand with historical military operations, the landmark events that allow fascism to spread.


Very true.

Thanks for the info in this thread, there are multiple people in my family that listen to NPR and never seem to understand why it is completely appalling to me. I plan on directing them to NPRcheck and some other sites.
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Another aspect/marker of NPRs being coopted

Postby pepsified thinker » Tue May 06, 2008 7:04 am

(back when I still watched TV)

I remember noting at a certain point that NPR reporters started showing up on ABC News. For example, Cokie Roberts became a regular on David Brinkley's Sunday morning discussion (at that time, with George Will and Sam Donaldson). Scott Simon tried to do the daily morning TV show (not sure if that was with ABC or not) but it didn't work for some reason--either his style/views on issues, or editorial controls, or he just didn't come across well visually. And I'm not sure, but I think Nina Totenberg (sp?) is also a cross-over from radio to TV, though all these reporters have continued on NPR, in addition to their TV work.

They're all, also, good at what they do--so they may have legitimately been hired/promoted to a high level of success on that basis.

But it shows a connection and looks like a way of coopting them--or flat out buying them. It would certainly provide a basis / rationale for reigning them in: 'you can't do what you did on NPR now, because you reach a wider audience and a much different demographic--they're not ready or interested in this kind of story or that kind of information'. And if you give one versioin on one venue, and another version on another venue, that looks bad, SO: NPR becomes more and more like ABC.

I think this--though somewhat of a detail--is important because it shows HOW media can be coopted without in-the-loop involvement by a large number of personnel. Add to it that Klose, or someone in a similar position, could place a few editors and you've got the basis for a certain 'tone' of coverage. It doesn't have to be as blatant as Murdoch and FOX's daily memos of what to say about certain stories.

Probably not 'news' to y'all, but the 'how' of such things, without a likely-to-leak, exposable large group of 'conspirators'. Anything involving a large group of conspirators is likely to show, simply because their communications with each other, and interactions would provide monitorable activities that would be evidence, right? Isn't that what happened with PNAC and so on?

So coopting. Using promotions and 'success' to lure people away from where they're dangerous/irritating to the PTB. That's what makes sense.
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'I'm ready for my Klose-up'

Postby pepsified thinker » Tue May 06, 2008 7:17 am

Interesting story here about a possible/likely CIA-connected 'agent' shot down in Houston. I happened to see it just after pondering over whether I'd remembered a connection between Klose and the actress Glenn Closs. I'm probably wrong about Klose = Close because that would be too easy to 'out' and why bother to hide such a connection, but the bit below, coming right after my earlier post, well... it was just kinda weird.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/5744733.html

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Postby professorpan » Tue May 06, 2008 1:47 pm

Alex Constantine on NPR's spook-connected right wing religion reporter
who is married to the owner of the Atlantic Media Company,
Barbara Bradley Hagerty-
http://alexconstantine.blogspot.com/200 ... gbird.html


More slander and guilt-by-association.

I've met and spoken to Barbara at length, and she's far from a right-wing Christian. In fact, she's a very open-minded person, at least from what I could discern from my conversations with her. She's writing a book about a variety of profound mystic/spiritual experiences from people of varying religious backgrounds. That's not something a fundamentalist, conservative Christian would write about.

And so what if she is a Christian, and belonged or belongs to a Christian journalism organization? Without further exploration, we don't know if she's still a member, if she converted to another religion, or any other variable that might contradict the implications in Atrios' commentary.

That's my problem with this kind of smear -- using someone's CV against her, as if merely associating with a particular conservative group or individual makes her into a CIA shill. It's the laziest form of slander. A quick web search will point to many articles and interviews she has done which investigate pedophile priests, the Intelligent Design movement (of which she's critical), and other issues that aren't by-the-numbers right wing propaganda.

The woman I met was friendly, open-minded, tolerant, and interested in science and spirituality. Maybe she had a different kind of conversion since becoming born-again. Who knows. Alex Constantine certainly doesn't, and neither do you, Hugh.

But let's assume she is a hardcore Christian fundamentalist, and that her reporting skews in that direction (though I think, in light of the availability of all her stories online, that is hard to defend). That, in no way, supports the accusation that she's "spook-connected."

Again and again you paint people as "spook-connected" without doing a lick of objective investigation. It's petty, lazy, and callow. And sorry, but screaming "Mockingbird!" at the top of your lungs doesn't make your arguments logical or convincing.

But hey, since I MET the spook-connected Ms. Bradley Hagerty, I guess that makes me suspect, too. I am now "spook-connected," in your silly web of associations. When do I get my fat CIA check?
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...keyword hijacked myself?

Postby pepsified thinker » Tue May 06, 2008 3:42 pm

Surprised I didn't think of this 'til now--guess getting my mental wires crossed re Klose = Close is kind of a self-inflicted keyword hijacking.

(sorry, prof. p, but you know that had to come up somewhere on a thread like this)

---forget the connection suggested between Klose and Close; I dug for background on Klose and don't see such a connection now.

Don't know what I was thinking. (':oops:')

here's what finally convinced me:

A graduate of Harvard University with an honors degree in English
literature, Klose served two years in the U.S. Navy. He was born
in Toronto and grew up in Red Hook, New York. His parents, Woody
and Virginia Taylor Klose, were radio producers and writers
during the Golden Age of Radio in the 1930s and 1940s.


from: http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:w5lLNMrrz2oJ:listserv.buffalo.edu/cgi-bin/wa%3FA2%3Dind9811%26L%3Dwbfo-l%26P%3D3048+Kevin+Klose+Toronto&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=6&gl=us

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Postby wintler2 » Wed May 07, 2008 9:21 am

Great info, one for the log, timely for me cos heard this a.m on Radio Australia a relayed recent NPR Democracy Now show purporting to report on Bolivia's unruly province Santa Cruz, & its vote for 'autonomy'/against land redistribution and higher oil & gas royalties. The female interviewer directly asked about US involvement, then assented to the 'reporters' heartfelt view that it extended to nothing more than tacit support. I googled Bolivia & National Endowment for Democracy on a hunch and viola..
http://www.progressive.org/mag_dangl0208 "4.5mil in 2006.."
http://boliviarising.blogspot.com/2008/ ... ve-up.html
I'm glad NPR is getting the reputation it deserves in the US, but i don't think the CIA management will be any news to the Iranians, Venezualans, or Evo Morales. I only wish the Australian Broadcasting Commission & SBS were being similarly recognised here as purveyors of depressingly often identical myths and deceits.
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Re: ...keyword hijacked myself?

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Wed May 07, 2008 1:47 pm

pepsified, would you please wrap your too-long url around so that the page doesn't spread out and become unreadable? Thanks.

Like so-

pepsified thinker wrote:.....
from: [url]http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:w5lLNMrrz2oJ:listserv.buffalo.edu/cgi-bin/wa%3FA2%3Dind
9811%26L%3Dwbfo-l%26P%3D3048+Kevin+Klose+Toronto&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=6&gl=us[/url]

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