This Is How I Believe 9/11 Was Carried Out

[timetunneler]

The Sefiroth can also bee seen as the chakras not of the physical, but of the astral and higher bodies. When the astral chakras are awakened, the energy that is produced can be used for direct physical manifestation. Certain classes of magician will spend long hours working with seeds and flowers and utilising this energy flow to create and control the energy of germination and growth. There were people around Rudolph Steiner who were able to do this.
One of the most important structures about the Tree of Life is self-similarity "As Above, So Below". If you get the links correct, a change can be made to go from cell to individual body to country
However there is another aspect, "As Inside, So Outside" and 911 began as a child sacrificial ritual hours before the planes struck, as evidenced in the Princeton consciousness project.

WARNING, WARNING. We ain't in Kansas any more...

Mystical Flying Monkeys Ahead!

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

This is how I believe 9/11 was carried out-

[timetunneler]

What follows is speculation...

The forces that were unleashed on Sept 11th were the equivalent of the germination of a set of "seeds"I believe that the "egg tooth" of the mega-ritual was actually performed in a series of magical ritual sacrifices around the world but centered in New York and that some of these probably occured within the WTC complex itself. Just as a homing beacon can be used to guide a plane, I think there was a magical homing beacon, a opening channel for the dark energy released, something set up by a faction of the people involved right at the top.Some sort of truly dreadful elaborate Working that helped lead the 911 bull by the nose into the place of sacrifice

Say hi to the Eggs for me...
http://noosphere.princeton.edu/

You know....you're touching on a secret knowledge and idea so explosive(no pun intended) and seemingly incomprehensible, but it is something both I and even non religious researchers I know have pondered. The deeper you dig into 9/11, the more things lead to things that could only be described as Fortean. The more things lead to things that seem bigger than some cartoonish Loose Change meme of Dick Cheney with joysticks and bombs.

I asked a fellow Islamic terror and deep politic researcher, a no nonsense British writer whose done exhaustive research into all corners of Islamic jihad, 9/11 and the deep state. And I asked him what's up with John O'neil. He said he doesn't like to think about that aspect, because he believes O'neil was a "sacrificial lamb". When you hear William Rodriguez, the 20 year veteran janitor who saved many people's lives at the WTC that tragic day...the only thing he still gets visibly shaked and frightened about other than the collapse and crazyness of that day, is the mystery of the 34th floor. The 34th floor was a sealed room, yet Rodriguez visibly seems shaken, yet emphatic that something not right was going on above him being on the 33rd floor. He said it sounded like large dumpsters and heavy machinery being thrown around that room. So frightened was he, that he didnt dare unlock it to see if there were people needing to get out.
There's stories of the Mothman harbinger being seen inside the WTC and
Somerset Country(Shanksville area) weeks before 9/11, but I find William's testimony ironclad. Some have speculated that John Oneil is tied to the 34th floor mystery, but more on it can be found here:
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2007/09/365664.shtml

My personal view, and I know this would get me laughed off the stage by most people, is that a very dark spiritual force and agenda has been secretly puppeteering mankind for thousands of years. A current that has coursed through Egypt, Sumer, Aztecs, Romans, The British Empire, Babylonia, the 7th century wars of early Islam, to WW2 and what's going on today.
Alleged World Trade Center architect has made claim several times that he believes forces of darkness guide both the Islamic terrorists and the Western leaders...he said Qliphoth named Gamaliel - the obscene; Tzalalimoron - the Clanger; and Bahimoron - the Bestial were assigned to the 9/11 project.

I mean what do we have? We have two towers, rooted in the most ancient of arcane symbolism. 2,603's souls instantly ripped from their body in an instant in New York City, at these two esoteric structures. The ripple from such a working on both the physical and spiritual plane can only be imagined.

What if...what if the 9/11 hijackers were truly al Qaeda young Muslims, being obviously puppeteered by the usual tableaux of CIA, Pakistani ISI, Saudis, corporate fronts, etc. BUT...what if they were also being brainwashed in high level occult mind sciences. Afterall, just look at the scans of Mohamed Atta's will...at the very end, he's scribbling the word "ROOM" with an oroburos like symbol. Or look at Ziad Jarrah and others, specifically seeking out occult based one touch kill military martial arts.

We hear of this Lone Gunmen Xfiles scenario of planes being brought into the towers by remote control. I always thought electronic beacon symbols placed in Marsh and Mclenlan and Fuji Bank computer rooms was more likely. But what *if* theres more to it, and the collapses?

I would not be surprised if world wide on the morning of 9/11, as Osama bin Laden lay in a Rawalpindi hospital *thinking* he was the mastermind,
the black brotherhood was meditating, conducting rituals and connecting together on a different realm. Visually being able to *see* the ritual without even a tv...focusing on guiding the planes in as Osama claims he and his cave buddies were doing.

I always wondered if perhaps, there is a more unsettling cause ultimately for the collapse of the Twin Towers. Sorcerer Magicianship at it's highest,
with the darkest of spiritual manifestation coursing through the now charged towers, bringing them down in succession.

Perhaps if we suspend disbelief for a moment, this here might be the literal hellish manifestations Theosophist Rudolf Steiner felt compelled to make statue busts of:



The 19 hijackers, mere homoculi. The Planes, mere phallic vessels.
The Twin Towers and Pentagon, the ultimate targets of an elaborate symbolic working. The numbers of 9/11, 11, 77, 93 etc all tied within.
The date itself, making a very significant planetary and celestial event that would have been known about for centuries.
The result? The complete transformation of humanity on the physical and spiritual plane.
The mystery? Flight 93.

I think you and OP ED may be onto something.

Uggghhh... I love your posts up until you go off speculating in the land of faeries... I guess that's what people do here. I do believe 9/11 was a sort of magician's operation... but I don't stray into the "wouldn't be cool if" territory. I could throw in some pirates and ninjas too to add some excitement but there is no evidence for it.

The only thing I know about the magical side of 9/11, is the dates and some of the symbols are one and the same with the esoteric astological cores of the three major religions... as to how those dates are being interpreted and used is anyone's guess. But obviously, the numbers are astrological... which is why in my mind I go back to looking at secret societies within groups of Masons, Christians, Muslims, Jews, OTO types... since THEY hold the key to the symbolism... who else would be using it or even uinderstand it?

I don't personally believe there is some universal black brotherhood going back to the times of Egypt... the reason the symbolism seems so damn unified over 1000s of years is not because of a single secret group, but because secret symbolism largely revolves around astronomical numbers which never really change. Many, many civilizations have picked up on the fact that another religion's priesthood had figured out the movements of planets and stars so they could predict those movements and scare the shit out of the people they ruled over. Eventually some caught on to the game(Moses, Templars, Masons?), stole the secrets, and then re-encoded the secrets again so they could keep control of their own populations by scaring the shit out of them. Hell, Columbus did this very exact thing when he came to the Americas... he had calculated the time of an eclipse and used it to the scare the pants off the natives.

That is all history is IMHO, an elite class discovering a set of secrets and then sealing it up again in symbols(ie. Catholic church) so only the elite have total power and freedom and can control everyone else. These secrets are always protected(ie. CIA) because revealing the secrets is basically the same as saying "hey look, I'm a liar and a control freak, your mind is free now. come topple me" hence... the secret symbolism is self-perpetuating

[timetunneler]

The Sefiroth can also bee seen as the chakras not of the physical, but of the astral and higher bodies. When the astral chakras are awakened, the energy that is produced can be used for direct physical manifestation. Certain classes of magician will spend long hours working with seeds and flowers and utilising this energy flow to create and control the energy of germination and growth. There were people around Rudolph Steiner who were able to do this.
One of the most important structures about the Tree of Life is self-similarity "As Above, So Below". If you get the links correct, a change can be made to go from cell to individual body to country
However there is another aspect, "As Inside, So Outside" and 911 began as a child sacrificial ritual hours before the planes struck, as evidenced in the Princeton consciousness project.

I believe the true elite behind all seats of power, not this cartoonish Dan Brown "Illuminati", but as OP ED referred to as the "Black Brotherhood" has a clear understanding of the Kundalini chakras and the collapsing of the chakras. The Sephiroth and the Qliphoth. The Egyptian mystery, of the true mystery of astrology/procession/planets, of both Jewish and Hermetic Q'abbalism, of Solomonic and Enochian magick and all structures between.
They know the power of sound, colors, strong shapes, sigil, etc.
There's is a dream machine weaved around us every day.

I believe the black brotherhood now and then likes to pluck children from the usual UN/Dyncorp/black market child kidnapping and forced labor rings for special occations. I believe these sacrifices happen in Europe at castles and private mansions, but also in the Middle East and Asia.
We see mass sacrifices like the Atomic bomb, which to me is a 100% occult working. I would not be surprised if such ghastly horrors were committed worldwide the morning of 9/11.

Also, man...is this fascinating or what?
http://noosphere.princeton.edu/terror.html

Global consciousness the day of September 11th.

If as you say, the elite were concentrating and performing rituals that morning...that is one mother of an egregore.
The collapse of the towers, the collapse of the chakra and portal like effect. Definitely an homage to something...dare I say, Egyptian?

Ok, I didn't read this post before I commented... I see a bit better where you're coming from.

[8bitagent]

Uggghhh... I love your posts up until you go off speculating in the land of faeries... I guess that's what people do here. I do believe 9/11 was a sort of magician's operation... but I don't stray into the "wouldn't be cool if" territory. I could throw in some pirates and ninjas too to add some excitement but there is no evidence for it.

I don't see anything cool, hip, vogue, edgy, or the sort. I see a global spanning and meticulous scheme that perhaps even dovetails with a group who have their "Revelation of the Method" thumbprint...clear knowledge of arcane and esoteric arts(that even the military industrial complex has spent a lot of time on) The use of high level mind control loop tapes for instance at mosques to recruit new kamikaze jihadists is something the CIA would come up with, but some things point to something bigger(again IMHO)

The only thing I know about the magical side of 9/11, is the dates and some of the symbols are one and the same with the esoteric astological cores of the three major religions... as to how those dates are being interpreted and used is anyone's guess. But obviously, the numbers are astrological... which is why in my mind I go back to looking at secret societies within groups of Masons, Christians, Muslims, Jews, OTO types... since THEY hold the key to the symbolism... who else would be using it or even uinderstand it?

You got it, they understand the true mysteries of the 12 stages of the procession, astrology, etc. They know how to manipulate consciousness on many levels. The elite appear to have a deep knowledge of many esoteric belief systems, and throw them all together. In my view the true elite are above any group of Christians, Jews, Muslims, Sufis, Masons, etc. (tho certainly the very core template and system of Freemasonry worldwide has been one of many conduits to consolidate power) I feel the world's main religions are being used to bring about a clash of civilizations in some way.

I don't personally believe there is some universal black brotherhood going back to the times of Egypt... the reason the symbolism seems so damn unified over 1000s of years is not because of a single secret group, but because secret symbolism largely revolves around astronomical numbers which never really change. Many, many civilizations have picked up on the fact that another religion's priesthood had figured out the movements of planets and stars so they could predict those movements and scare the shit out of the people they ruled over. Eventually some caught on to the game(Moses, Templars, Masons?), stole the secrets, and then re-encoded the secrets again so they could keep control of their own populations by scaring the shit out of them. Hell, Columbus did this very exact thing when he came to the Americas... he had calculated the time of an eclipse and used it to the scare the pants off the natives.

Have you seen Mel Gibson's Apocalypto? To me, it's the perfect example of how the elite operate. In the film some Aztec elite types take over land, and oppress everyone. They believe they hold some sort of esoteric knowledge that makes them supreme, then they conduct mass sacrifices day in and day out on large pyramidal structures while having an intimate knowledge of eclipses to wow people. It's the same story today...but this template doesnt just evaporate and reappear. If you look at the world's pyramids, coincidentally or not they seem to be alligned to show that they are more than just ornate decorations.

That is all history is IMHO, an elite class discovering a set of secrets and then sealing it up again in symbols(ie. Catholic church) so only the elite have total power and freedom and can control everyone else. These secrets are always protected(ie. CIA) because revealing the secrets is basically the same as saying "hey look, I'm a liar and a control freak, your mind is free now. come topple me" hence... the secret symbolism is self-perpetuating

It's the powers people give to symbols. Esoteric and ancient based mystery symbolism is all around us, from the major religion's symbols to corporate logos we see everyday to our very money.
The real secret is not symbols, but the fact people tend to not break free of their mental imprisonment from dogmatic views, government imposition, societal group think, peer pressure, etc. ie: thinking for themselves. Empires always fall, we've seen this...but the same oppressive structures continue.

Right now, I can name, as can you, at least 30 countries on the globe where war, genocide, and outright oppression are going on. Probably way more than that.

On a side note, I always wondered what would happen if women were in charge.

[lunarose]

hi 8bit.

"You got it, they understand the true mysteries of the 12 stages of the procession.."

can you please explain? thanks, mrs. rose

[OP ED]

Procession of Equinoxes. Important to every ancient star cult. Knowing about it without being a cultist was a death sentence in Egypt. Today its basic tenents are available in every major newpaper. The new age movement gets its name from this process. Although the picky people may wish to point out that there are in fact 13 Zodiac signs in most ancient astronomy/astrology.




it happens because everything moves, and none of it in straight lines.

Merkaba?

Should definitely be covered as I'll likely come back to it when I attempt to turn all the images I've already posted into one big one. It is THE essential Jewish mystic practice of a (pre)Cabalist nature.

what it is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkaba

How it works:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ugql6D4pFKM&feature=related

What it actually sounds like:

Tool - "Mer Ka Ba" from Salival

It is an egyptian term borrowed by Mosaic Jewish mystics, used in the bible to describe the "wheels within wheels" that empower the Sphinxes/Seraphim and protect the throne of GOD. By 300 ev it had become a process for having these sort of apocalyptic "face to face" chats with the creator. It remains one of the most important methods of western occultism, introduced to Rosicruscians and Masons from their Jewish allied members [Freemasonry was once WASPs only] it figures prominently in Maimonides most famous book on Kabalah. In Egypt it is a series of words describing various densities of the human soul, most neccessary for completion of the Star Cult practices. Revered by the Golden Dawn, its mastery is almost assumed by Crowley [along with the equally old, and jewish "berashit" practices] to be a prerequisite for everything else.

The Merkaveh have been compared to traditional UFOs since LONG before we called them UFOs.

Related Wiki pages:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_eye
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qigong
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_drawing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediumistic_automatism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pineal_gland
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_channelled_texts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_writing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parapsychology

Pay special attention to the section on the "third eye" page related to Christian teachings. These are important to understanding certain aspects of esoteric freemasonry. One of the verses quoted is central to HRA docrtine.
Luke 11:33;
The Simile of Light
33 " No one who lights a lamps hides it away or places it [under a bushel basket], but on a lampstand so that those who enter might see the light. 34 The lamp of the body is your eye. when your eye is sound, then your whole body is filled with light, but when it is bad, then your body is in darkness. 35 Take care, then that the light in you not becomes darkness. 36 If your whole body is full of light, and no part of it is in darkness, then it will be as full of light as a lamp illuminating you with its brightness."

I'm sure this all seems unrelated. I will do my best to remedy this in subsequent posts.

Its my drive-by style of posting.

Love is Law,
SHCR 88

[lunarose]

hi mr. ed.

i know about the precession of the equinoxes. i've never heard it referred to as '12 stages of the procession' so that's why i asked 8bit what he was talking about.

thanks for answering a call in the wilderness.......

[OP ED]

hi mr. ed.

i know about the precession of the equinoxes. i've never heard it referred to as '12 stages of the procession' so that's why i asked 8bit what he was talking about.

thanks for answering a call in the wilderness.......

it was inevitable that someone call me mr. ed, i suppose.

an aside> http://iao131.cjb.net/ essays on IAO formulae. Probably more of interest to someone like tKl, but you never know.

The numerology connects the procession star cults with many of their children. Everyone knows Jesus had 12 disciples, but most of his followers do not know why the numbers 12, 24, and 144 reccur so prominently in JudeoChristian apocalyptic literature. in the Tarot, card 12 is the hanged man [Osiris or Christ or some other dionysian sort] a spiritual 3 bound to matter, always a 4. 93 is also to be understood in this line, as it also is a twelve, rather than an eleven.


the process of the combination of these two systems [and their subsystems such as Dee's or the Archon worshipping/fearing Gnostics] is concealed, ahem, ON the pair of underpants previously mentioned in this thread, and pictured several pages ago.

in most gnostic subsystems Abraxas [another god of pillars] or Abrasax [number 365] is the maintainer of the aeonic subangels, the archons or whatever. His name gives us abracadabra, and its equivalents.

the babalon/nuit 156 formula is designed to integrate the solar and lunar processions systems into a biological framework. 12 x 13
this is also used to integrate the projected four-worlds 3D tree of life onto/into a larger nested system. it makes it graphed four dimensional spaces. almost like Escher art.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrasax
http://www.occultopedia.com/a/abraxas.htm
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view. ... 3&letter=A

it is occassionally referred to as "stages" or "steps" when it is aligned with particular initiatory processes. as in the correpsondences with the paths on the tree of life, or the masonic/RC associations between the spinal column and various processional stages. It is also evident in the Church of Satan's "thirteen steps" [lunar progressions] for the conduct of ANY magickal ritual. See the Satanic Bible. This is not to be confused with other thirteen step programs.

To many lunar-based "primitive" peoples the number 13 also figures heavily because of its assocations with the moon. My Cherokee brothers hold special reverence for the sacred turtle. It is believed that the moon shapes all water-carbon based beings, and that the telltale signs of this influence is to be found in the numbers. For instance the thirteen rings of the sacred turtle [and all turtles] are regarded as being the animal equivalent of tree-rings. The moon makes turtles more turtley, by gravity, if not by magick, it is said.

That there are more obvious connections between biological clocking and larger spheres is readily apparent.





Many modern magicians emphasize the gravitational effects on small bodies [humans] from large bodies [the moon, the sun, etc] as being more important to understanding the timings of ritual based on astrology than on anything related to the stars or the signs themselves.

It is interesting, for example, that despite the divergent cosmologies and cosmogonies, ancients since prehistory, both east and west, make similar observations about the Martian and Venusian influences.
Its all about timing.




supposedly our understanding of reality is backward. The geometric principles explain everything, and all biology is merely the inevitable expression of interlocking electromagnetic fields being pushed out of place by gravitational forces. we are a localized field, riding the rails, like lightning down hyperdimensional mud mountains. We are electricity and jello.







MerKaBa is a meditative practice similar to kundalini. Like the early gnostic Consolorum (Consolamentum) or "laying on of hands" it is tantric, but not neccessarily sexual in nature. It corresponds to eastern practices related to the chakras. After a cabalist, jewish or otherwise, has completed this process [know to occultists as crossing the abyss], the structure of the "tree" changes into a system that corresponds EXACTLY with eastern methods of kundalini, as the ten sefirah become 7 instead. [the bottom two are fused, likewise the top 3] This is related to what Thelemites know as "the fifty gates of Binah" which are the selfsame fifty gates used in Sumeria in their equivalent initiatic practice.




The end result of these practices is supposed to be the retuning of the brain's processing circuits to perceive reality more clearly. To recognize, more directly, the literal interconnectedness of all things. The related contact experiences are often a signal that the seeker approaches this reality. It may be that they are, in themselves, mere side effects of the actual reality underlying our hallucination attempting to manifest.

The subject of the purpose of such a ritual still requires deliberation. Let me first go back and read everything so far, to make sure nothing obvious is being overlooked before we jump headlong into tentative conclusions.

I'd still like to deal with the ideas of the towers a bit more, and what they represent to various initiates, also how they are used traditionally, by these initiates. This is probably important before we can grasp and esoteric insight from their destruction beyond the obvious apocalyptic imagery and mindcontrol value.

LIL, 93/93
SHCR 18 5/8/08 ev 8:28 pm

Ps edit 12:53 am 5/9/08 ev ::
more related (wiki) pages. things that will come up again:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakob_B%C3%B6hme
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anamnesis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_memory
http://deoxy.org/pkd_tcs.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meiosis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_king
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genomic_imprinting
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modalism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manicheanism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophia_%28wisdom%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pistis_Sophia

:. :.

[8bitagent]

I LOVE David Icke's take on 9/11, and whose in control. He laughs at the idea that Bush or Cheney did 9/11. He says "If you can see them, and name them, they are not the real controllers. The people really in control do not put themselves in public display. They are what I call the shadow people, who work in the background"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqFWhOLL ... re=related

I'd still like to deal with the ideas of the towers a bit more, and what they represent to various initiates, also how they are used traditionally, by these initiates. This is probably important before we can grasp and esoteric insight from their destruction beyond the obvious apocalyptic imagery and mindcontrol value.

Oh absolutely, I think understanding the esoteric significance of the twin towers and the pentagon itself is key, as well as what was hoped to be achieved

Im curious what your take on Searcher's hypothesis of the 9/11 ritual
is, as briefly mentioned in these three short posts
http://rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewt ... 012#184012 http://rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewt ... 021#184021 http://rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewt ... 027#184027

Also, thanks so much for your input. I know the Egyptian mystery schools were very much focused on the body and mind, I don't know if I could compare it to the kundalini though.

I also found this, from what you said interesting

Many modern magicians emphasize the gravitational effects on small bodies [humans] from large bodies [the moon, the sun, etc] as being more important to understanding the timings of ritual based on astrology than on anything related to the stars or the signs themselves.

It is interesting, for example, that despite the divergent cosmologies and cosmogonies, ancients since prehistory, both east and west, make similar observations about the Martian and Venusian influences.
Its all about timing.

Also, it is interesting how many places in nature the pentagram can be found

Finally, I know many wouldn't dare look at this clip because David Icke's in it, but I think these two brief clips have an interesting take
on the use of the towers, souls, etc in the 9/11 ritual:

pt 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN81b1xr ... re=related
pt 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbNuaUDWx2o

and "9/11 star gate"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUvSqY3po24
(gets into tree of life, isis/horus, solomon's temple, etc)

[Perelandra]

"9/11 star gate"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUvSqY3po24
(gets into tree of life, isis/horus, solomon's temple, etc)

I like what you say and thanks for the vid. I haven't seen that in awhile, but it's great, one of his better efforts. At first, you kinda scratch your head and go, "what?", by the end it becomes clear. Disagree or not, it's brilliant.

[8bitagent]

"9/11 star gate"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUvSqY3po24
(gets into tree of life, isis/horus, solomon's temple, etc)

I like what you say and thanks for the vid. I haven't seen that in awhile, but it's great, one of his better efforts. At first, you kinda scratch your head and go, "what?", by the end it becomes clear. Disagree or not, it's brilliant.

I think he gets his facts wrong sometimes(He confuses AIWAZ for Lam in recounting Crowley's work), but overall it's quite an interesting premise he sets up in his synchronicity videos. Sometimes it seems like a stretch, other times it indeeds seem like one big cosmic giggle. It was actually this clip where I first heard of the idea that the structures struck on 9/11 being esoteric symbols.

[OP ED]

I LOVE David Icke's take on 9/11, and whose in control. He laughs at the idea that Bush or Cheney did 9/11. He says "If you can see them, and name them, they are not the real controllers. The people really in control do not put themselves in public display. They are what I call the shadow people, who work in the background"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqFWhOLL ... re=related

I'd still like to deal with the ideas of the towers a bit more, and what they represent to various initiates, also how they are used traditionally, by these initiates. This is probably important before we can grasp and esoteric insight from their destruction beyond the obvious apocalyptic imagery and mindcontrol value.

Oh absolutely, I think understanding the esoteric significance of the twin towers and the pentagon itself is key, as well as what was hoped to be achieved

Im curious what your take on Searcher's hypothesis of the 9/11 ritual
is, as briefly mentioned in these three short posts
http://rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewt ... 012#184012 http://rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewt ... 021#184021 http://rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewt ... 027#184027

Also, thanks so much for your input. I know the Egyptian mystery schools were very much focused on the body and mind, I don't know if I could compare it to the kundalini though.

I also found this, from what you said interesting

Many modern magicians emphasize the gravitational effects on small bodies [humans] from large bodies [the moon, the sun, etc] as being more important to understanding the timings of ritual based on astrology than on anything related to the stars or the signs themselves.

It is interesting, for example, that despite the divergent cosmologies and cosmogonies, ancients since prehistory, both east and west, make similar observations about the Martian and Venusian influences.
Its all about timing.

Also, it is interesting how many places in nature the pentagram can be found

Finally, I know many wouldn't dare look at this clip because David Icke's in it, but I think these two brief clips have an interesting take
on the use of the towers, souls, etc in the 9/11 ritual:

pt 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN81b1xr ... re=related
pt 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbNuaUDWx2o

and "9/11 star gate"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUvSqY3po24
(gets into tree of life, isis/horus, solomon's temple, etc)

I see now, I've been far too gentle with you.

Note how I've preempted this development with links to wiki on automatic writing etc. This because of the neural connections in my brain related to the methods of the STARGATE [etc] Remote Viewing experiments/operations and their similarities to Crowley's A:.A:. usage of the sumero-egyptian currents under discussion.

one thing at a time:

I always Hate using Icke, but he's actually [mostly] correct sometimes. He [they] should've found better source material on Ahriman. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahriman
Steiner says Ahriman is Lucifer. I've always tended to regard Lucifer as equating better with Ahura Mazda. This however, doesn't help Ahriman at all. He just a demiurge. Rex Mundi. But I've always kind of found Steiner's ideas to be a little mixed up, if still fascinating.

the revelation of method is pretty much straightforward. demons feed on attention and life. rabbit holes go pretty deep round these parts.
probably before, during, and after. you have to feed the monster.

drench it in blood. soak it in attention.

so, are you asking me to comment on the bits about the 34th floors...human sacrafice...horrific noises...wooo....?

Are you sure? It all starts to sound lovecraftian after a while.
http://www.greylodge.org/occultreview/g ... mythos.pdf

Also likely relevant to what you're seeking would be:
http://www.aren.org/prison/documents/egyptian/3/3.pdf
but, really, only in that it exists.

it regards the tuat, or stargate. The accessing and manipulations of this Duat is the topic of the holy "stele of Revealing" from the Book of the Law [and ancient egypt, of course] (pictured below), the entire A:.A:. system is designed to utilize the science preserved on the stele. It is related directly to Egyptian afterlife [therefore spirit body mechanics] beliefs. This is where MerKaBa was going.




The term Duat is interesting. It is likely derivative, as with so many others, from Sumerian concepts of openings, DURU or DORO(depending on how the vowels work), we english speakers share common roots here with some of our own variations. DOOR, for example.

Where the stargate researcher types in the youtube movies start to go wrong(IMO), is when they equate the positive, mainstream applications of the symbols with their destruction. This wasn't the birth of an aeon. It wasn't a birth of anything. it was an abortion attempt. Time will tell how effective it was.

ahriman indeed. this is the desecration of the temple of the most high. repeated thousandfold. abomination.

8bit, what makes you think M Atta wasn't "initiated"? Platformed at the least, like Sirhan Sirhan. The Black Brotherhood maintains its oldest fortesses in their neighborhoods. Hell, the Bin Ladens own like 2% of America's Economy, you think they didn't take the A A rite in Cairo like Napoleon did?

more important actors always receive more character motivation.
look at all the trouble even a piddly organization like skull and bones goes to in order to keep a lid on its indiscretions. the layers of blackmail and manipulation, platforms aside. If OBL is alive, and not a CGI ghost, hes been a robot for years.

the BB has many faces, like its master, Chronozon [Moloch, Abbaddon, Ahriman, lords of Stagnation, less Sauron, more Melkor (Melchoir is one too)] and possess no unified doctrine or code of allegiance, bound merely by their shared psychosis. it feeds as easily in corporations and governments as in temples or cathedrals. its ally has always been the cult of intelligence, as its masters thrive on paranoia. were it a single unified cabal or lodge it would be simple matter to remove. it is a disease, a hydra.

I am dismayed that I was preempted, though indirectly from your links, to making the "My Pet Goat" connections common knowledge. I have yet to deal directly with 77 {LAYLAH} and its relations to OZ [also the OZ books, and movies relations to Rosicruscianism, which are obvious], Aiwaz(93), and all of the solar/lunar alchemical stuff already discussed. Basically, My Pet Goat, is ROTM. either that, or the universes' sense of humor, ala the Licoln/Kennedy stuff. Hell, why not? Further, if one is immersed in occulture, one seems more likely to notice the invisible war. Take for example, the previously mentioned band TOOL [their song MerKaBa] who are themselves, agressively occultic. The band utilizes traditional Cabalistic and Hermetic imagery, sliced sciencewise ala Alex Grey, in its artwork and videos. All of these are occult. That is, inherently intended to have "magical" side effects. Psyops. Their singer's sideproject, A Perfect Circle, released a song entitled Pet [actually a remix] that did fairly well on MTV2 actually. In some occult circles surrounding the band, this was believed to be a reference, to W's ROTM. a response of some sort. its probably best just to see the video.

description ala wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counting_B ... _War_Drums
the object in question.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sspY1GFh6E

infowars indeed.

going to go eat cookies until i pass out now.

Love is the Law,
SHCR 818

[IanEye]

personally, I had an interesting evening last night reading this thread while listening to selected works by John Zorn.







http://fusionanomaly.net/johnzorn.html
http://ocpimple.blogspot.com/2007/10/john-zorn.html

also the track "HotHeelsUnited" on the Mutant Throbbing Gristle remix CD

UNITED:
You and I
You and I
Living together
Loving forever
At our distance
Another for instance
United United
You become me
And I become you
She is she
And she is you too
United United
A corresponding game to play
A special way for us to stay
United United
Its a lie
Its the same
It's a sigh
It's a game
Its the why
Its the where and the when we're United
United
You and I You and I
United United
Four faces blending blending blending
Neverending
Our places sending
Shades of evening
You and I You and I United United
Oceans between us
Sky between us
Land between us
Fire between us
We're United United

Can't stop it

United United
You are my Knight
You are my night-night my evening
Its very plain to say
Its a strange system
You miss them
You want to be them
You have to see them
You have to be them
United United
You and me la la la la
You and I
Make ourselves forever together forever and ever
United United
Love is the law
Love is the law
Love is the law
Love is the law
United United United You and I You and I United
TIme will see us
Time will free us
Time will be us
We are everywhere
There is no why
There is no sky anymore
There is just us United
United

thanks.

[lunarose]

hello op.

"it was inevitable that someone call me mr. ed, i suppose."

honestly, i waited as long as i could.

and you're being very sweet about it.