Adam Parfrey - Good Guy or Fascist?

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Adam Parfrey - Good Guy or Fascist?

Postby Truth4Youth » Sun Jun 01, 2008 6:15 pm

http://spitfirelist.com/f437.html

Not that I agree with what Dave Emory says (he comes off as an arrogant asshole for me at times altough I like some of his research), but I've been wondering about Adam associates too lately. Also Parfrey has commented on the Bell Curve theory:

http://feralhouse.com/press/press_clipp ... arfrey.php

Does this mean that he's a fascist? I don't know. I mean I'm wary of some of his associates (ie: Boyd Rice, Michael Moynihan, Nikolas Schreck, etc.) and heard that he was a member of the Church of Satan (I'm kinda iffy on that group- can't decide whether they're liberatians or social dawinist fascists). Then again Adam is associated with some people I have a fair amount of respect for (ie: Kenn Thomas, Jim Keith, Alex Contantine, etc.), so I don't know what to think these days.

Jeff, you're fairly educated on alt. press figures, what's your take? Anyone else feel free to chip in your word.
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Postby American Dream » Sun Jun 01, 2008 6:30 pm

Each of us represents a portion of truth, a portion of error.

Researchers may fight, sometimes for reasons of principle, other times for more personal reasons.

My preference is not to feed the fires unnecessarily, because what we're up against is so big, and so dangerous.

Since "Divide and Conquer" has worked so well for the conspiracies which we must contend with, it is truly a shame when we in the research community do their work for them...
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Postby thurnundtaxis » Sun Jun 01, 2008 6:41 pm

Hi T4Y,

I recently, and briefly, brought up my reservations about Parfrey's political ideologies in this
thread on Feral House's publication of a new book exploring Aleister Crowley's role as British Intelligence Officer written by the well accredited
historian Richard B. Spence:

HERE

American Dream replied

As to Feral House's Adam Parfrey, I don't see him as a rightist politically at all. Rather I see him as a sort of defiant heretic who delights in his "bad boy" status...


I am inclined to agree, though questionings along the lines that you bring up do flit about in my mind from time to time. But ultimately are outweighed by the corpus of his publishing house's output, which I
find to be mostly very valuable.

- Except for the Hoagland "Moon Hoax" book.



Thanks for the link, I'll definitely check it out.
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Postby annie aronburg » Sun Jun 01, 2008 6:57 pm

Adam Parfrey - Good Guy or Fascist?


Probably both.

He did a nice re-issue of "War is A Racket" and I'll forever be under James Shelby Downard's spell (assuming he was real).

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Postby nathan28 » Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:36 pm

You can browse some of Parfey's comments on Amazon.com; one that struck me was his statement that Julius Evola's work being published in the US was a shining example of radical ideas and free speech in action. Evola was, if you didn't know, strongly pro-fascist; his UR Group, a magickal circle, attempted to become the "soul" of Italian Fascism. Elsewhere on the internet, Parfey dismissed the rumor that anarchist theorist Hakim Bey/Peter Lamborn Wilson is or was a CIA agent, referring to Bey as a disorganized stoned old man living in an apartment full of pictures of little boys. There's an interview of Parfey available by the OutThere podcast guys, and Parfey seems to have a square head on his shoulders.

If you listen to the Parfey interview, he's got a nuanced opinion of James Shelby Downard: he finds some of it offensive, some of it unbelievable, and some of it bizarrely on-point. I think that Parfey is simply a guy who knows fringe culture and sees value in bringing to light these neglected things--he publsihed Apocalypse Culture I and II, after all, covering everything from Kathy O'Brian to necrophilia. While he might have an interest in a fascist like Evola, but politics aside Evola is a sound thinker on spiritual matters (he gets in trouble by trying to map spirituality onto politics, kind of like the Christian right; he hoped to reestablish a sacred hiearchy of spiritually enlightened rulers who would reverse the "reign of quantity"). Parfey also publishes Jim Goad, who is a leftist populist albeit one with a bad attitude (Goad penned one of my favorite lines, "Maybe we wouldn't be so FUCKING PARANOID if you hadn't FUCKING LIED so many times"). But Parfey's still at the fringe, which in the US attracts equal parts cryptofascist right-wing survivalists and LSD-addled hippie cloudbusting communists. I for one wouldn't worry about any hidden agenda on Parfey's part, besides any obvious ones.
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Postby Truth4Youth » Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:05 pm

Adam got attacked by NRO in 2004:

http://www.nationalreview.com/seipp/sei ... 040852.asp

He's not painted as being on the far right from what I can tell in that article.

Also Kris Millegan defended Adam when he was accused of fascism by Dave Emory:

http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listse ... 11330.html

http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listse ... 41727.html
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Postby Truth4Youth » Mon Jun 09, 2008 6:48 pm

nathan28 wrote:Parfey also publishes Jim Goad, who is a leftist populist albeit one with a bad attitude (Goad penned one of my favorite lines, "Maybe we wouldn't be so FUCKING PARANOID if you hadn't FUCKING LIED so many times").


I don't know much about Goad, can you give me evidence he is a "leftist populist" as you describe him?
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want to know more? read his books.

Postby annie aronburg » Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:11 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rednec ... esto_(book)
The Redneck Manifesto is the title of a 1997 book by author Jim Goad in which he delineates some of his views about what he sees to be the disenfranchisement of lower-class white people, and how certain aspects of our society such as racism and sexism cover what he sees as a deeper concern relating to class conflict. His thesis is that the rich elite blind the poor and cause them to fight one another instead of working together for their mutual benefit and confronting the rich elite.

Goad, a journalist by training, claims that most U.S. American whites stem from poor Europeans who were brought to the New World in shackles, like the African slaves later. Convicts, beggars, orphans and kidnapped were sent to America and the Caribbean colonies to work the land. The writer compares their plight to slavery and argues that the institution of indentured servitude has been falsely portrayed as an option of free choice. His strong, albeit somewhat humorous and controversial defense of the white underclass, aka "white trash", is largely based on the assumption that its members have been wronged throughout history, while they have been denied their rights by the upper classes' insistence on portraying the position of the poor as a result of bad choice and character, unlike the poor of other ethnic backgrounds.


Truthie, check out his website, peruse his forum, read his books and get back to us with your take on the man. I would be very interested in your perspective.

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Postby Truth4Youth » Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:29 pm

Jim Goad wrote:Surely I must be kidding, that I don't mean to compare such twinkle-toed West Coast coolness-mongerers to the TEETH-CHATTERINGLY SINISTER ATROCITIES of the Nazi pork-butchers. After all, Hitler killed six million Jewboys! That's enuff goldurned Heeb-a-roos to fill eight San Franciscos. You may be right, tootsie-pop, but are you aware that non-racist, peace-licking, universal-personhood-touting communist governments have slaughtered ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY MILLION PEOPLE this century? The commies beat Hitler 20-1. Their unbounded love for "humanity" didn't seem to put a check on an even stronger love for controlling and killing human beings. So much for your murky notions of government-mandated humanism. Better a Nazi than a commie, I guess.


http://www.jimgoad.net/bayaryan.html

That's something I can see coming out of the mouth of GJ Krupey.
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