2012: End of the Internet

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Postby justdrew » Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:34 pm

if the kill the internet, it will become more powerful than they can possibly imagine.

(and it will be ON for real)

for now, the key thing activists and people of sound mind need to be focusing on is a WAY to remove these deathsuckers who come up with this evil shit from the boards and chief positions in these companies. I'm sure there's a way.
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Postby 8bitagent » Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:57 pm

vigilant wrote:8bitagent wrote:
Until we read that oh hey look, no it really is coming into being.


I have seen more "supposed tin foil hat" stuff come true in the last ten years than I ever dreamed possible...


Oh indeed. I recently saw a big thing in the news on UFO drones being used in Afghanistan and Iraq, as well as combat SWORDS robots.

The British government wants to RFID chip all inmates, and also chip all London area cops.

Washington Post said the CIA and Pentagon are using tiny insect like robots to spy on people, even possibly anti war protestors.

They're developing real invisibility cloaks/shields, neno thin computer screens that will fit into a pane of glass, nanobots, commercial application exo skelleton suits, Japanese androids, ect

Brighid_Moon wrote: Wearable computers already wired to the net?


Virtually every grown up I see in my Star Bucks suburban area has a "bluetooth" pod in their ear. Sometimes I feel like I'm living in an assimilated Borg culture.
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Postby Brighid_Moon » Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:46 am

8bitagent wrote:
Brighid_Moon wrote: Wearable computers already wired to the net?


Virtually every grown up I see in my Star Bucks suburban area has a "bluetooth" pod in their ear. Sometimes I feel like I'm living in an assimilated Borg culture.


ROTFLMAO!

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Postby barracuda » Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:10 am

8bitagent wrote:Virtually every grown up I see in my Star Bucks suburban area has a "bluetooth" pod in their ear. Sometimes I feel like I'm living in an assimilated Borg culture.

No, it's just the Empire Strikes Back thingy. Eighties nostalgia. Lobot guy. Lando's sidekick.

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Postby vigilant » Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:18 am

Wombaticus Rex wrote:I think this will be a pain in the ass, but also a kick in the ass to rebuild a decentralized, wireless and people-powered internet, and leave the corporations to enjoy their high-bandwidth stolen property and slave consumer subscriber base.


I agree. And that 12 million paultry dollars they threw at the project isn't impressive. But you know how the trough is, more can always flow out if they need it.

I would suspect that the decentralized nature of the internet would lend flexibility to itself that would enable a slow transition to a more centralized internet. I think over time it could be phased in, in a manner that would be minimally disruptive to users. Slow progression over the ages of time has proven to be an effective mechanism of complete change.

It only takes one or two generations of humans conditioned to a certain set of parameters to change the world...
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Postby vigilant » Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:28 am

8bitagent wrote:
Virtually every grown up I see in my Star Bucks suburban area has a "bluetooth" pod in their ear. Sometimes I feel like I'm living in an assimilated Borg culture.

We need to try to determine the semi correct stats for the "doubling rate" of technology. The last stats I saw years ago said that technological knowledge and ability doubles every 4 years. Every time it doubles it doubles the next time progressively faster...supposedly.

If all this be true, that would mean that by now technology is doubling much faster even.

It has run so far, so fast, that television doesn't even attempt to keep up with it and report on it. There was a time when signifigant technological advances were big news but not anymore.

I'm curious to know roughly where the supposed exponential doubling rate might really be right now.

The Wombat might know...
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Postby Ziggy Toshiba » Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:54 am

vigilant wrote:vigilant wrote:
I'm curious to know roughly where the supposed exponential doubling rate might really be right now.


In the "grey" - Quantum, which is arguably 30 to 20 years old...

Quantum computing was first theorized less than 30 years ago, by a physicist at the Argonne National Laboratory. Paul Benioff is credited with first applying quantum theory to computers in 1981

In the "black" - the sky is the limit.

From the linked article;

If functional quantum computers can be built, they will be valuable in factoring large numbers, and therefore extremely useful for decoding and encoding secret information. If one were to be built today, no information on the Internet would be safe.
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