What the heck happened to Cannonfire blog?

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What the heck happened to Cannonfire blog?

Postby HamdenRice » Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:24 pm

Some years ago it was a moderately interesting blog about weird politics, including a lot of reposts of Hopsicker's 9/11 skepticism reporting. Then Joseph, the blogger, went off the deep end with his hatred of all 9/11 skepticism except the Hopsicker stuff.

Now the blog is dedicated exclusively to Obama hatred and hatred of all who call themselves "progressive," along with a measure of hatred/jealously of DailyKos and Democratic Underground.

Does anyone have any insight on what caused that blogger to lose it? Given how often his earlier political stuff was wrong, badly sourced and misleading, I'm beginning to wonder whether he really is some kind of disinfo agent.

Sorry to post this here, but there isn't really anywhere else appropriate. I don't think we're even allowed to mention him on DU, and I also wondered whether Jeff had corresponded with him or had some other insight.
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Postby bks » Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:31 pm

Just noticed the same thing three days ago! Visited for the first time in months, and it seriously looks like he's gone off the deep end.

I never liked him to begin with, of course, with his bashing of progressive thought and idiotic denunciation of non-Hopsicker 9/11 skepticism. But this is truly bizarre.
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Postby justdrew » Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:32 pm

easy. he was a mole all along. just a part of republican/secret-government psychological operations directed at the American people. What I see there is a fucking outrage. that worthless piece of shit traitor.
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Postby sunny » Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:37 pm

Lol, it's almost funny how this question pops up here periodically.

What's happened to Joseph, however, is not funny. It is not that his views are contrarian, which they are, it is that his contrarianism has taken on an air of unhealthy compulsion. Whatever the majority feels or think he takes an opposite view and commences tilting at windmills. He sees himself on a Quixotic quest to prove everyone wrong and he, Joseph Cannon, the Ultimate Victor and Right About Everything.

The way he treated his onetime co-blogger dr. elsewhere was reprehensible. He made claims about her and refused to let her speak in comments to defend herself. Up until then I had become annoyed at his hatred of cd'ers and quit commenting but I still read him from time to time. After that, I removed his bookmark and have not been back.
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Postby Jeff » Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:47 pm

Well, I guess I hold a contrary view.

Cannon is repelled by herd mentality, regardless of which direction the herd's heading. While that means sometimes taking wrong turns, I have to admire that kind of crankiness in a blogger, and it makes his writing far more interesting than another chorus from the same old song sheet.

on edit:

sunny wrote:The way he treated his onetime co-blogger dr. elsewhere was reprehensible. He made claims about her and refused to let her speak in comments to defend herself.


I wasn't aware of that, and you're right.
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Postby dqueue » Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:59 pm

It seems to me Cannon continues to cover some topics relevant to parapolitics and the deep-state; at least, he loosely addresses deeper power structures. His refutation of the Obama Certificate of Live Birth disinfo is invaluable. There is no question he derailed that gimmick.

Regarding 9/11, all along he has derided controlled demolition. He has been very up front about his opposition to CD hypotheses; he didn't want it on his blog, because he disagreed with with CD (while he fended off attacks from CD proponents). This has been on-going, for at least a year or more.

Hatred of DU? He spun off Cannonfire after being chased off DU. No?

Me, I respectfully disagree. I continue to read Cannon. At times, I cringe at the vehemence and skim a post; other times, he resonates with me. Mole? Traitor? Wow. I have a hard time accepting that.

Hamdan, have you asked him to explain his viewpoints? It would seem difficult for anyone else to speak to what caused him to "lose it".

on edit:
Indeed, the spat with Dr. E was remarkably weird. I stuck around and continued to read him. I have missed her contributions; she was thoughtful and articulate.

on FURTHER edit:
I regret having spoken in defense of Joseph Cannon and Cannonfire. Joseph Cannon now actively suppresses comments. My comments in response to his posts regarding Ashley Todd (the republican staffer who fabricated a story of being attacked by an Obama supporter) and Joe the Plumber (a strong possibility of being a republican plant and marketing ploy) remain unpublished, dare I say censored. Additionally, Joseph Cannon refuses to acknowledge or respond to emails questioning the reason for his censorship. Bizarro.
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Postby justdrew » Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:01 pm

Jeff wrote:Well, I guess I hold a contrary view.
Cannon is repelled by herd mentality, regardless of which direction the herd's heading. While that means sometimes taking wrong turns, I have to admire that kind of crankiness in a blogger, and it makes his writing far more interesting than another chorus from the same old song sheet.


he's a traitor to the cause - spews nothing but republican talking points and has otherwise, nothing to say. he's a bought and paid for shill. I guarantee it. If I had the money I'd hire the private investigator and prove it.

He's a damn shameless traitor. No other word could cover the bill. Defeating mccain is the ONLY thing that matters for the next couple months, and this worthless twit is trying to use his linkages and pseudo-credibility to sabotage that. It's god damned pathetic.

I couldn't care less about his 911 views, BTW. It's irrelevant at this point in time.
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Postby Hammer of Los » Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:13 pm

These emotionally unstable blogger types are ripe for manipulation. Still, I doubt trawling the underbelly of the deep state is terribly good for any of us, mental and emotional health-wise.

Alex Constantine writes that Dan Hopsicker (whether knowingly or unknowingly) is being used by spooks and fed disinformation.

If Constantine is right, you might well be quite suspicious of anyone who pushes an "idiotic denunciation of non-Hopsicker 9/11 skepticism," as bks put it.
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Postby justdrew » Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:16 pm

Hopsicker report a lot of factually interesting things. However, he is ALSO staking out a limited hangout position based largely on incompetency and a few bad apples. Which I suspect is well short of the true level of complicity, but... This might end up being the best truth we can ever get, so... whatever, we'll see where things go. It's not going to be sorted in the next few months, that's for sure.
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Postby bks » Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:21 pm

He badgers progressives for their supposed ideologically 'purity' and their failure to toe the party line, and then he does this shit to Obama? Unhinged.

He's also always been a bit sad. A little too proud of his tiny fiefdom over there, and a little too comfortable in the role of blog censor.
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Postby Jeff » Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:31 pm

Hammer of Los wrote:Alex Constantine writes that Dan Hopsicker (whether knowingly or unknowingly) is being used by spooks and fed disinformation.


Though as much as I've appreciated some of his work, I've seen some stuff from Constantine that could make me wonder the same about him. As for Hopsicker, I trust his judgement.
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Postby 8bitagent » Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:05 pm

Cannonfire was pure awesomeness, though I agree he has gone a bit off the deep end.

ONLY Cannonfire, RI, Spitfire newsletter, Madcowprod, and a few others
have covered the real 9/11 investigation news...as "boring and unsexy" as that may be to the 'anomaly' crowd.

I haven't read it in awhile...is he anti Obama?

*looks at blog*

Oh shit. He's turned into a pro Mccain tool. Damn.

I've realized Mccain cannot win. If people are going to criticize Obama, they should instruct people that it can be a vote against Mccain and not necessarily for Obama. This isnt 2004...the stakes are crazy high.
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Postby sunny » Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:10 pm

Jeff wrote:
sunny wrote:The way he treated his onetime co-blogger dr. elsewhere was reprehensible. He made claims about her and refused to let her speak in comments to defend herself.


I wasn't aware of that, and you're right.


Cannonfire

dr. elsewhere will no longer write for this blog. Neither will she be allowed to comment. She crossed a line when, in a now-deleted comment, she accused Hillary Clinton of somehow being the true author of Ferraro's unfortunate statement.


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# posted by dr. e : 9:40 PM
Not one further word out of you, liar.
# posted by Joseph : 10:32 PM
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Postby justdrew » Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:24 pm

we should begin a "crusade" to get every place that links to him to remove the links. Then he can enjoy the controlled demolition of his google pagerank
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Postby 8bitagent » Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:33 pm

I wrote this in response to someone who was calling me a conspiracy nut, that I bought more into "Loose Change" than the 9/11 report.

I replied:

The MAK changed their name to "al Kifah Refugee Center" in Brooklyn, a CIA protected cutout taking Hekmatyar Mujahadeen and re-directing "Soviet Jihad" to "Bosnian Jihad"

This al Kifah center would be used to stage the World Trade Center 1993 attacks under the guide of FBI informants, of which one of the agents...Ali Mohamed, would later escort
Osama from Afghanistan to Sudan where the al Qaeda network would grow

al Kifah became CARE International, brought under the wing of Yassin al Qadi and Khalid bin Mafouz's Muwafaq Blessed Relief Foundation and National Commercial Bank...
the same people who control PTECH, an al Qaeda/US Government contracted
technology firm based in Quincy Mass. that was instrumental in carrying out the technical aspect of 9/11.

Saudi foreign fighters---MAK---Egyptian jihad---Al Kifah---Bosnia jihad---CARE---Ptech---9/11

See 9/11 is absolutely a conspiracy, involving real terrorists, controlled by real corporations and corrupt politicians out for their own private agendas.

The MAK also split into "al Qaeda", but this loose network has been tapped for all manner of terror attacks since 1993...even when Osama was still not quite the terror mastermind we think of.


Cannonfire is one of the few "truther" blogs that would even acknowledge such a thing, given I don't talk about exploding buildings or fake planes.
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